Koko Black Got Caught Gaming The System, Should They Be Penalised?

LLeyley90 on 28/02/2024 - 15:03
Last edited 28/02/2024 - 16:26 by 1 other user

Koko Black and Subway ‘gaming the system’ in penalty rate deals: union

Owner of Koko Black caught gaming the system of Enterprise Agreement. Isn't the dude also own Grill'd which also have problem about underpaying their staff a few years back.

Is this the norm for Australian Owned companies to scamming their employees? It is not like the first time done by the owner or whomever is in charge.

Should this people be penalised? It seems there are no deterrent at all. Those companies lucky enough to escape can YAY and HOORAY but feel sorry for the employees.

Just a random thought to get general opinion of OzBargainers.

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Comments

  • Drakesy on 28/02/2024 - 15:09
    +9

    What a grub that guy is.
    taking everyone on as effectively trainees/apprentices. I'm amazed that people sign up to this.

    • muzzamo on 28/02/2024 - 17:31
      +2

      OTR / Peregrine have been doing this in SA for years.

      The amount of "auto trades traineeships" that were just service station attendants…

      I do wonder if they will be able to keep this up as they expand in to the Eastern States and can no longer hide under the SA radar.

  • Cheaplikethebird on 28/02/2024 - 15:11

    Almost everyone in an entry level role is being f****ed in some way. Way she goes.

    • reactor-au on 29/02/2024 - 09:30
      +1

      Sounds like sexual harassment

  • kerfuffle on 28/02/2024 - 15:15
    +10

    Just a random thought to get general opinion of Ozbargainers.

    Yet you weren't an OzBargainer until an hour prior to this comment?

    Member Since
    57 min ago

    • Jimothy Wongingtons on 28/02/2024 - 15:24
      +4

      not sure why anyone negged you - @leyley90 are you sureeeee you're not somehow associated?

      • kerfuffle on 28/02/2024 - 15:32
        +7

        Oh I know who negged me. Probably someone whose initials are the same as Peter Alexander and is just trolling as usual. Won't be long before they're in the Penalty Box again. Either that, or another one of my stalking haters

        • jv on 28/02/2024 - 15:48

          Either that, or another one of my stalking haters

          Get back in the line… 🤣

  • JimmyF on 28/02/2024 - 15:34
    +4

    Is this the norm for Australian Owned companies to scamming their employee?

    The thing in common, isn't that they are Australian Owned companies, but the person running them.

    Many Australian owned Companies comply with the laws, it comes down to the people operating them.

    • jv on 28/02/2024 - 15:49
      +4

      OP seems to be associated with this company… Probably a current/ex employee…

  • spackbace on 28/02/2024 - 16:07
    +2

    Non-paywalled link

    • jv on 28/02/2024 - 17:15

      I can read the original link fine.

      • JimmyF on 28/02/2024 - 17:31

        Your ozbargain accounts should be instantly banned if you pay for afr!!!

        • jv on 28/02/2024 - 17:40
          +4

          I just installed a chrome add-in and I can view stuff behind many paywalls.

          • JimmyF on 28/02/2024 - 21:06
            -2

            @jv: So stealing?

            • jv on 28/02/2024 - 21:09
              +4

              @JimmyF:

              So stealing?

              No, the add-in extensions are free….

              • JimmyF on 28/02/2024 - 21:53
                -5

                @jv:

                No, the add-in extensions are free….

                But the content instead… thief.

                • jv on 28/02/2024 - 22:05
                  +1

                  @JimmyF:

                  But the content instead… thief.

                  The content is published on the internet.
                  I just click on the link and I can read it.

                  • JimmyF on 28/02/2024 - 22:19

                    @jv:

                    I just click on the link and I can read steal it.

                    Fixed it for you.

                    • jv on 28/02/2024 - 22:20
                      +5

                      @JimmyF:

                      Fixed it for you.

                      It's not stealing.

                      It is just displaying the text they make available for the search bots, it is free…

                      Otherwise, they site would disappear from Google search…

                      I identify as a search bot.

                      • JimmyF on 28/02/2024 - 22:20
                        +1

                        @jv: So you admit you are a bot?

                        • jv on 28/02/2024 - 22:21
                          +6

                          @JimmyF: No, I identify as a search bot.

                          I am not biologically a search bot.

                          • JimmyF on 28/02/2024 - 22:22

                            @jv:

                            I am not biologically a search bot.

                            Questionable…

                    • pencilhead on 29/02/2024 - 13:37

                      @JimmyF: Not stealing - Copyright infringement.

                      • JimmyF on 29/02/2024 - 13:50
                        -1

                        @pencilhead:

                        Not stealing - Copyright infringement

                        Oh well why didn't you say that earlier, it is so much better….not.

                      • fabilo on 29/02/2024 - 16:51

                        @pencilhead: Reading text for bots is copyright infringement?

        • jv on 28/02/2024 - 17:44

          You can also use

          https://12ft.io/

  • Dollar General on 28/02/2024 - 16:10
    +4

    Legal loopholes

    If it’s legal then the issue is the law. Try and change it & businesses have a massive sook and threaten to cut jobs etc. Just look at the right to disconnect saga. Businesses claiming it will kill them & they should have access to you 24/7 like you are employed to serve them whenever they want.

    • Gdsamp on 28/02/2024 - 18:55
      -1

      Kerry Packer vibe

  • freefall101 on 28/02/2024 - 18:26
    +2

    This is a test case, they've picked two employers who'll get very little sympathy from the community and who's agreements are being pushed through at the moment. They didn't "get caught" gaming anything, they were openly gaming it in a way I'm sure plenty of others do.

    I highly doubt this is a small issue, because it's perfectly legal despite being scummy as all hell. The test case will be to make much wider change on how shift allowances are calculated.

  • brendanm on 28/02/2024 - 18:41
    +2

    I've never heard of Koko black.

    • kerfuffle on 28/02/2024 - 22:53

      Dunno who negged you, but that's a fair comment, seeing they've set up shop in every state except Tasmania and Queensland

    • Loopholio on 29/02/2024 - 12:59

      Same here, never heard of Koko Black. I'm in Queensland so fair enough.

    • mattmel96 on 29/02/2024 - 13:20

      I live in Sydney and apparently I must have missed the memo (are they still a thing?) notifying of their opening. In my defence, 5 stores in the CBD, 1 in Bondi and 1 at the airport.
      Not my normal haunt.

  • Typical16-bitEnjoyer on 28/02/2024 - 18:59
    -1

    Subway has Australian registered companies, but it is not Australian owned. They are a very shitty organisation so this news is not surprising at all.

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