NVIDIA RTX 50-Series Graphics Cards Announced

jk82 on 07/01/2025 - 14:37
Last edited 07/01/2025 - 15:37 by 2 other users

Jensen said on stage that the 5070 gives "4090 levels of performance for USD$549"

For some reference - the 4070 Super launched at USD$599, and here most 3rd party AIB's are retailing for AUD$999.

US pricing for the 5070Ti is USD$749, the 5080 is USD$999, and the 5090 is USD$1,999.

Who's getting one??!

https://www.theverge.com/2025/1/6/24337396/nvidia-rtx-5080-5…

GeForce RTX 5090
Starting at AUD $4,039

GeForce RTX 5080
Starting at AUD $2,019

GeForce RTX 5070 Ti
Starting at AUD $1,509

GeForce RTX 5070
Starting at AUD $1,109

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      • marchozb on 09/01/2025 - 09:22

        Thanks for explaining. So fair to say even though founders price for 5070 Ti is $1.5k its probably going to be a hell of a lot closer to $2k when MSI/Gigabyte etc release theirs?

  • [Deactivated] on 07/01/2025 - 18:26
    +3

    I was all set for an upgrade from a 3080 to a 5070, but I'm going to wait to find out how good DLSS 4 is first. If it can give 4090 FPS but only by loading it up with artifacts I'm not really that interested.

    That the 5090 has 30% more cuda cores than the 4090 yet is barely faster in FC6 leaves me a little bit worried. Plague Tale:Requiem only supports DLSS3, so it's basically a minor improvement for gaming. It's only that they introduced multi-frame generation (i.e. generating more than one frame between each real frame) that gives the boost, and there's no promise that will actually look good.

    • Sleepycat3 on 07/01/2025 - 18:59

      They still claim about 20-25% increase in FC6 based on that chart.

      • [Deactivated] on 07/01/2025 - 19:21

        30% increase in cores for 20-25% in performance is minor IMO. But what worries me is the upgrade I mentioned above, I want to go from a 3080 to a 5070. The 4070 was slower than the 3080 by about 10% without DLSS. If the 5070 is only 20-25% better than the 4070 then the raw performance increase is pretty much nonexistent.

        I'll upgrade if DLSS 4 is good, hopefully it does amazing single frame generation or something and it'll justify the $600 upgrade. Assuming I can even get a 5070 on release. But I'll still wait until I can see that DLSS 4 is actually good.

    • kehuehue on 07/01/2025 - 19:25

      Next gen cores, higher core count, better memory bandwidth yet not a wowza performance increase (talking raster only).

      • [Deactivated] on 07/01/2025 - 19:32

        It's clear their target market is the right hand side of that chart, not the left!

    • gromit on 08/01/2025 - 11:14
      +2

      I would think if upgrading from a 3080 you would at least look to jump to 16GB VRAM, the 5070 is a lemon.

      • [Deactivated] on 08/01/2025 - 14:45
        +2

        The minister of finance has vetoed spending over $2k on a GPU.

        Maybe I’ll wait for 5070ti benchmarks and AMDs options. At the moment it’s not looking worth the upgrade.

        • gromit on 08/01/2025 - 14:49
          +1

          yeah I would have to do some political dealing to hide from finance minister otherwise she will use it as an excuse to go shopping. I had expected the 5070 to be an easy buy but that 12GB I think make it not worth it as far cheaper options for 1440p and it will be hamstrung in 4k down the road. 5070ti looks nice but will see what the 9070 perf/price comes in at.

  • basketballfreak6 on 07/01/2025 - 18:58
    +12

    Looks like majority of the performance uplift's coming from fake frames.

  • DingoBilly on 07/01/2025 - 19:01
    +5

    These are so overkill for 99.99% of people. Not sure why people obsess over them when a 5 year old+ card is usually fine for most of whatever people are doing.

    • beeze on 07/01/2025 - 21:20
      +5

      Where is the fun in fine?
      it can't all go on my mortgage…

    • Mistredo on 07/01/2025 - 23:11
      +3

      Let me guess, you drive 20 years old Camry?

    • idonotknowwhy on 09/01/2025 - 19:56

      32gb vram though. I'm tempted to get a 5090.

  • OzGuru1 on 07/01/2025 - 19:03
    -1

    I will pass ! I will wait until DLSS 5

    • HaydosK on 07/01/2025 - 19:36
      +5

      But what about dlss 6?

  • tellhimhesdreaming on 07/01/2025 - 19:16

    I'm curious to see benchmarks with the new frame gen but I think I may be keeping my 6800xt as long as I kept my 980Ti at this rate…

    • drprox on 07/01/2025 - 19:58

      Yep my 6900xt is not concerned here…looks lame as

      • beeze on 07/01/2025 - 21:22
        +1

        Not much happening on team Amd to entice an upgrade either. Maybe once some real numbers and partner pricing and competition is out we will see some worth while options fall out of the marketing fluff.

    • gentlekoala5906 on 10/01/2025 - 21:01

      FSR4 has significant image quality improvements to FSR3 which is promising, but at this stage only available with the new cards

  • bazingaa on 07/01/2025 - 20:03
    +6

    5070 gives "4090 levels of performance for USD$549"

    no VRAM though

  • OzAmore on 07/01/2025 - 21:00

    Definitely seem like better value then the 4000 series. But i wont be buying. I base my GPU purchases around the next graphically intensive AAA game im looking forward to. And i wont be upgrading from my 3080 until either GTA6 or Witcher 4 releases.

  • commiewealth on 07/01/2025 - 21:25
    +6

    $1109 for a card with 12GB VRAM, yikes.

  • aussieprepper on 07/01/2025 - 22:10
    +2

    5070 is obsolete before even launching, lol.

  • whey4000 on 07/01/2025 - 22:14
    +3

    Wish they would release a successor to the GT1030 so I can upgrade my $80 ex corporate desktop computer with a 180watt psu

  • Cralis on 07/01/2025 - 22:54
    +5

    I’ll be going from a 3080 to 5080. The $2k seems acceptable for triple the performance. I won’t see a single lost frame when changing browser tabs. (I don’t use chrome - that would have been a big ask).

    • SanguinarySeraph on 08/01/2025 - 09:08
      +1

      I’m in the same boat as you, it won’t be triple. Looks like ~20% over the 4080 in raster performance which is similar to the 4080 over the 3080, so maybe 50% uplift?

      All the gains on the charts are from improved DLSS, RT performance and in some cases frame generation. The bottom end of the chart like FC6 (RT only) is a more realistic idea of raster performance.

      • jk82 on 08/01/2025 - 09:56
        -1

        When DLSS is this good why play games pure raster though? In terms of upscaling, DLSS 3.8 Balanced preset at 4k looks insanely good, I can only imagine what DLSS 4 will look like. They've also cleaned up the smearing with frame gen - which already looks amazing on v3.7, so even the new 2x mode on 40-series will look much better, and with minimal latency added going to 4x I think it's going to be pretty good once games start implementing it.

        Talking uplift in terms of raster only is slowly becoming irrelevant imo.

        • SanguinarySeraph on 08/01/2025 - 10:03
          +4

          It depends, DLSS is great for certain applications, and I do use it. But it can’t be used on everything and it introduces latency and artifacting.

          It sounds like it’s about to change so Nvidia can force DLSS onto non native titles, however I suspect it won’t be as effective in these cases.

          The extra latency makes DLSS basically unusable for competitive titles.

          The artifacting makes DLSS a trade off for frames vs graphics in non competitive titles.

          To me I find it the opposite, why am I paying $2k (or $4k) to introduce lag and artifacts into my games. Half of the reason I want to upgrade is so I can natively hit acceptable frames at high graphics without having to compromise and introduce other side effects.

      • SanguinarySeraph on 08/01/2025 - 10:07
        +1

        I realised I made an error, 4080 is in the vicinity of 40% over the 3080, so being generous if you assume the same again (skeptical), you’re looking at ~100% uplift over the 3080 or about what a 4090 was (minus the vram) which probably tracks.

    • gromit on 08/01/2025 - 14:59

      careful of the Nvidia numbers, you are definitely not going to see triple the performance. Nvidia are using kinda fake numbers by using DLSS frame rates for comparison rather than like for like.

  • shiny1 on 07/01/2025 - 22:57

    What boggles my mind is why there is no Founders reference card for the 5070Ti.

    • kaleidoscope on 07/01/2025 - 23:44

      What’s the point though as it was nearly impossible to get ref cards for all other cards 🤷‍♂️

    • BillyG687 on 08/01/2025 - 20:57

      They don't sell Founders cards in Aus anyway, so it doesn't really make a difference?

  • fubariam2 on 07/01/2025 - 23:46

    il be selling my htc vive pro …my quest 2 …. my 2 2070 supers …
    And maybe just maybe if everything is sold i just might be lucky to get one

    would love the 5080 but if i can just scrip in and get a 5070ti … il be laughing with tears of joy

  • skittlebrau on 08/01/2025 - 00:56
    +11

    Jensen said on stage that the 5070 gives "4090 levels of performance for USD$549"

    I think it’s a pretty safe assumption that he means a 5070 achieves 4090 levels of performance only when DLSS 4 is being used, which is a pretty big disclaimer on there.

    Either way, definitely wait for reviews.

    • kehuehue on 08/01/2025 - 13:15

      Jensen did mention i think atleast 3 times that it wouldn't have been possible except through AI, after that claim of 4090 =5070.

      So can't blame him for being misleading

      • pinkybrain on 08/01/2025 - 15:07
        +4

        So can't blame him for being misleading

        Why can't you blame him for being misleading?

        Even though he mention AI a few times on stage prior but when it came to finally giving the sale TAG line/sales pitch
        he said
        https://youtu.be/k82RwXqZHY8?t=1126

        5070 | 4090 performance = $549 USD

        NOT

        5070 | 4090* performance = $549 USD
        * = (thanks to AI)

        Only the extreme techy people would know it was due to AI

        most average joes/buyers would just think they can get a 4090 ($1599 USD) performance at 5070 ($549) USD price.

  • burns13 on 08/01/2025 - 02:22
    +4

    Any interest in the 5070 ti ?? Closest to my price/performance expectations upgrading from a 2080.

    Damn that Oz tax, these cards are fkn expensive. …

    • SunsetCowboy on 08/01/2025 - 14:13
      +1

      I'd love to get one for the VRAM alone.

  • mike6969 on 08/01/2025 - 08:06
    +4

    I'll be looking for bargains on 4 series

  • bert-lifts on 08/01/2025 - 08:30
    +13

    "AI" upscaling and frame gen might be the most cancerous shit to come to gaming. It should not be referenced when discussing/comparing performance.

    We don't even know the true performance of cards anymore since everything has a big dlss or frame gen asterisk on it.

    • ReaperX22 on 08/01/2025 - 10:28
      +2

      I think upscaling tech is really driving current performance though, and allows mid range cards to 'catchup' to higher end cards - also keeping them relevant for longer as newer games get harder to run. Frame Gen is disingenuous though as it has its own issues and if the card can't do 'x' frames from the beginning, frame gen doesn't help a lot.

      DLSS is actually very good, and I think we're really starting to hit a wall with straight rasterised performance, indicative by the ludicrous power draw figures popping up in recent generations.

      • burns13 on 11/01/2025 - 04:42

        Transistor size has one of the main barriers in hardware advancements. There are diminishing returns going smaller as well as increased costs. It has lead to a paradigm shift towards intelligent AI processing techniques. Results and performance have been stunning and clearly many more advancements to come in this area.

    • MrFunSocks on 08/01/2025 - 14:36
      +2

      DLLS upscaling is amazing and should IMO be the “default” for gaming. It legitimately produces better results than native resolution quite often, at worst is almost unnoticeable (at least when using a base res of 1440p) while giving you a massive performance bonus.

      DLSS frame gen, however, is garbage imo. The input and response lag it introduces is just too bad in my experiences on my 4070S.

      Agree it shouldn’t be used when comparing unless it’s in use on both sides of the comparison.

    • pinkybrain on 08/01/2025 - 15:14

      We don't even know the true performance of cards anymore since everything has a big dlss or frame gen asterisk on it.

      you can still know the true performance from watching youtube reviews (when it comes out) or reading benchmark tests (without the AI) from many websites…

      You would be a pretty gullible/dumb buyer to trust whatever numbers nvidia puts on it's website/marketing ads or

      However most average joes buyers most likely probably would not be doing this and just buy it cos it is nvidia
      and seeing the nvidia sales pitch 5070 | 4090 performance @ $549 USD

  • skid on 08/01/2025 - 08:46

    Thought the rumours were that the 5080 would be $2800? Will the retailers mark these up?

    • Zabuza on 08/01/2025 - 09:22
      +4

      Depends, those pricing is for founders edition which Australia doesn't get. AIB partners will need to make their cut aswell, I reckon 5080 will be sitting at 2500+

      • ArtieD on 10/01/2025 - 10:51

        Having seen initial pricing, it will be 2500-3k
        Cant imagine what the 5090 will end up at.

        • Zabuza on 10/01/2025 - 11:20

          Some reports saying 4.8-5k but there was 1 reseller who put their pricing, then stating they put high prices now until official release where it will be readjusted for the real pricing. But ye looking around 4500-5000.

          Ridiculous price, i honestly will be settling for 5080/5070TI/9070XT. Depends on benchmarks.

        • skid on 30/01/2025 - 11:25

          There's no way it's worth $2500+. $1800 to $2000 would be ok. There's not enough of an improvement over the 4080.

          • ArtieD on 30/01/2025 - 11:37
            +1

            @skid: From what I've seen, retailer costs are around $2k AUD so under 2500 seems possible on some models.

  • Breno785au on 08/01/2025 - 09:47
    +2

    You're really just getting more AI with this release.

  • Bid Sniper on 08/01/2025 - 09:56
    +4

    Wait for actual benchmarks.

    I'm keen to see what AMD hits back with.

    • drprox on 08/01/2025 - 10:57

      Maybe a new software update. Unsure they need to hit back (but hope they do).

    • Pudina Chutney on 08/01/2025 - 11:05
      +1

      AMD is no longer targeting the higher end GPU market, so we won't see a 5080/5090 equivalent.

      • gromit on 08/01/2025 - 11:21
        +3

        yep and the 9070 and 9070 XT have been stated as 4070/4070ti equivalent. Still that may be enough given the gimped nature of the 5070 as the 9070's "may" be better bang for buck.

        • BargainHunter9876543 on 08/01/2025 - 16:59
          +1

          That and the fact that there haven't been any games at all to push GPU's since Cyberpunk was released - and even that was just because the game for the most part was just so appallingly optimised.

      • idonotknowwhy on 09/01/2025 - 19:59

        How about the rumored 24gb battlemage from Intel?

  • [Deactivated] on 08/01/2025 - 10:19

    5090D confirmed for China

    30% drop in Tensor cores but unlike the 4090/4090D, identical CUDA core count

    Jacket Man got the green light so it's NVDA to the moon

  • imurgod on 08/01/2025 - 10:21
    +3

    Is it time to upgrade my Riva TNT 2?

  • Daevidge on 08/01/2025 - 10:38
    +1

    By "4090 Performance" I'm guessing they mean the same framerate with the new DLSS 4 frame generation, which makes 3 fake frames from 1 frame.

    • jsediv on 08/01/2025 - 12:20
      +3

      Thats my presumption too.

      I don't really see the point in frame generation considering most people want higher frames for lower latency and frame gen typically increases latency.

  • OzzyOzbourne on 08/01/2025 - 11:05
    +1

    No, despite the exchange rate being 1.6, they are double the price here despite us being closer to where they are manufactured than the USA.
    Also check out some of the youtube videos. They are using multiple frame generation to increase the frame rate, only single frame generation is enabled on 4000 series. Actual raw frame rate is only about 20-30% better thsn previous gen.
    Unless they've perfected frame generation, it can introduce artifacts and ghosting.

  • Brick Tamland on 08/01/2025 - 11:07
    +2

    Would I notice a difference from my Voodoo Banshee?

  • jsediv on 08/01/2025 - 12:14
    +3

    Im more excited for the DLSS improvements for the current gen. Literally downloading more performance

  • DarnyBoy1982 on 08/01/2025 - 12:53
    +1

    Who the hell is paying 4k for a GPU.

    • pinkybrain on 08/01/2025 - 14:51
      +1

      People who has $4K to spend on a GPU

  • SuperMid on 08/01/2025 - 12:59

    The owner of nvidia, billionare because greed.

    • gromit on 08/01/2025 - 14:41

      given Nvidia is a publicly listed company and Vanguard is the largest shareholder that means a lot of OZB are owners. I don't think we have many billionaires on here, but I could be wrong.

  • intelseb on 08/01/2025 - 14:14

    All the Nvidia comparisons are rigged with new gen frame generation, id love to see raw benchmarks of the new series, they should be faster but how much will be interesting

  • Sbog4215 on 08/01/2025 - 14:15

    Makes me even more tempted to go down the Geforce Now route. Currently offering 4080 level performance for $165 per 6mths. Not needing to deal with bottlenecks and upgrade other parts. If they upgrade the GPU offering to the 5080, and keep the subscription price similar, it seems like a no brainer? Can anyone who has used Geforce Now provide any feedback? (good and bad).

    • MrFunSocks on 08/01/2025 - 14:38
      +2

      It’s game streaming so it has the downsides of that - latency, image quality, etc.

      • Sbog4215 on 08/01/2025 - 15:27

        From what I remember reading, assuming you have solid internet, the image quality is on-par, and the latency isn't an issue unless you're playing competitive FPS.

    • drprox on 08/01/2025 - 15:10

      It sounds great but it's not a no brainer because you're caught on a subscription model. Even if you pay $3k for a new gen card the way things are going it'll never be worth much less so you do retain a lot of the "investment".

      • Sbog4215 on 08/01/2025 - 15:34
        +1

        Fair point, but we're talking 6 years worth of Geforce Now subscription before you hit the MSRP price of the 5080, not to mention the cost of other upgrades you might need so that you're not bottlenecking the 5080.

        The absence of some games on the subscription is another downside.

        • drprox on 08/01/2025 - 19:39

          True enough. I mean it's great there's an option there for ppl though

  • Bid Sniper on 08/01/2025 - 14:32
    +5

    LOL will leave this here

    PC Gamers Learn the truth about RTX 5090's True Performance

    • simplerick on 08/01/2025 - 15:17

      LOL indeed, that was very entertaining to watch, and eye opening if true.

      So once again, restricting the new AI frame gen tech to only the latest gen series cards, while showing raw native performance has barely increased over previous gen.

      How's that for marketing, haha (the price tag no longer represents better hardware, we are now paying a premium to 'unlock' the next best frame gen tech, each time)

  • hasher22 on 08/01/2025 - 17:03
    +1

    Hey guys,

    I may need an upgrade from my 1070 (had it now for more than 5+ years) but not looking at getting anything fancy like this GPU but can anyone tell me whats a good upgrade but reasonably price maybe around 500? I can bump up my budget if it's a good deal. Im a casual player but I use adobe after effects, illustrator, 3D for my 3d prints but I don't animate 3D.

    My PC specs are:
    AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 8-Core Processor 3.80 GHz
    32gb Ram DDR4
    500gb M2
    B550 Aorus elite mobo

    • freemoneyhunter on 08/01/2025 - 17:12

      For $500 approx, the best is RTX 4060 8GB or a bit cheaper RTX 3060 12GB.

    • BenzTVS on 08/01/2025 - 17:41
      +1

      Intel B580 is an excellent value at $450+-

    • [Deactivated] on 08/01/2025 - 20:51
      +2

      I would be looking at a used 3070 8gb, should be well under $500. It's a solid card and will be well supported by all your software being Nvidia.

      The 3060 ti 8gb is the same chip but 10% slower, the 3070 ti is also the same chip but 10% faster. The 4060 is about the same as a 3070, if you can find one around the same price that would be the best option

  • BenzTVS on 08/01/2025 - 17:34

    I'm not feeling good about the exclusive feature for the next-gen that appears on the AMD side. I was ready to upgrade my 2070 to the 9070 XT, but I will switch to 5080 or 5070 Ti. I don't mind the fake frame. It's better to try everything this day.

    The gap between 5090 and 5080 is huge this time. The jacket man might decide to release the 5080 Ti (A cut-down version of the 5090) to fill the gap later.
    My only complaint about the launch is that 12GB VRAM for a grand is a no-no in 2025—possibly a Super card next year for the 16GB VRAM.

  • dexx on 08/01/2025 - 17:50

    I wonder if we'll see some good 40 series discounts with the 50 series being so close. A 4070 Super for $750 during the Black Friday sales was about the best ive seen.

    • freemoneyhunter on 08/01/2025 - 18:11

      $750 was a good deal if true for a 4070 super!

  • Dollar Dreamer on 08/01/2025 - 19:54
    -1

    less than 1 eth, nice

  • lethalmoney on 08/01/2025 - 20:23

    so in high accuracy competitive gaming will DLSS4 be a disadvantage ?
    As its rendering based on anticipation, not actual… Or will the gap its filling be so minute, that the hitbox variation is next to nil ?

    • Pelicannn on 08/01/2025 - 23:44
      +1

      Frame Generation will cause latency issues. Definitely no good to use in competitive online gaming, particularly FPS games.

  • J0hn on 08/01/2025 - 20:33

    dunno wether to get 4080 super or 5080… not much of a performance upgrade

    • jk82 on 09/01/2025 - 08:33

      if you've got the choice get the 5080. or at least wait until you see some real world results. but from early Digital Foundry impressions, Multi Frame Gen is only adding ~7ms latency on top of regular frame gen so I actually think 4x frame gen, especially with the new model, will be pretty awesome and definitely a viable option to boost frame rate. With these new cards it's not just about raw performance anymore, it's also about having the dedicated hardware to run the new software they're making.

      • J0hn on 09/01/2025 - 08:46

        ive seen the a vid about the multi frame gen, sounds more like fake frame lol. i’m in no rush, i’ll wait and see but probably lean more towards 50x

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