Washing Machine Recommendation - Bosch Vs. Miele

Lsomye on 11/03/2025 - 13:51
Last edited 11/03/2025 - 23:05

Moving into a new place and need to buy a new washing machine which we hope to last us a decent amount of time

Currently tossing up between a Bosch & Miele at differing price points:
Bosch Series 8 (German made) 10kg at ~$1500 post promo/gift card: - https://www.appliancesonline.com.au/product/bosch-series-8-1…
Miele 8kg at ~$2050 post installation: - https://www.appliancesonline.com.au/product/miele-8kg-front-…

From what I can gather, seems like Miele are a better brand/product, but want to understand if its worth the ~500-600 premium to the top of the line Bosch from a quality / reliability perspective.

Additionally, when we went to Harvey Norman, they were really selling the Asko with the stainless steel rim (to avoid mould etc. on the rubber seal) which my wife liked - any ideas on whether this feature is actually valuable / important or more of a gimmick?

Edit: added a poll option

Poll Options

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    Bosch Series 8
  • 34
    Miele
  • 4
    Asko
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Electrical & Electronics Bosch Miele Washing Machine

Comments

      • ssx on 13/03/2025 - 12:19

        https://www.bosch-home.com.au/supportdetail/product/WAS28440…

        Sorry took me a while to find it

        • Poor Ass on 13/03/2025 - 13:10
          +1

          Made in China .. the best stuff

          • ssx on 13/03/2025 - 13:30

            @Poor Ass: ?? It's the German made one - unless you're talking about specific parts in the machine because then I don't know..

            • Poor Ass on 13/03/2025 - 14:04

              @ssx: Nah not this one

              • ssx on 14/03/2025 - 12:10

                @Poor Ass: Could you show me where it says that? All serie 8 are made in germany and the sticker behind the machine literally says Made in Germany.

                • Poor Ass on 14/03/2025 - 12:47

                  @ssx: I have a serie 8 and was made in Turkey

                  • ssx on 14/03/2025 - 15:20

                    @Poor Ass: That's still not Made in China.
                    Anyway, my particular model is made in germany which is written on the back of the machine.

    • Kelpei on 16/03/2025 - 17:23

      Spray some bleach onto the rubber seal, leave overnight then wipe away next day. If it's really bad it may take 3 or 4 tries. When finished washing, leave the door completely open to ensure the drum and seal completely dries out to prevent mould growth. I leave mine open always, only time it's closed is when it's washing. I haven't had any mould grow back in years.

      Good practice is to periodically clean the pump filter, I often find coins, paper clips and other stuff that doesn't get pumped out with the waste water.

  • [Deactivated] on 13/03/2025 - 00:10

    give this ago. https://www.lg.com/au/washer-dryers/front-load-washing-machi…

  • Capo93 on 13/03/2025 - 01:25
    +2

    Appliance repair technician here, I would pick a Miele over Bosch personally.

    • rumblytangara on 13/03/2025 - 13:18

      Even at the price differential?

      • Capo93 on 15/03/2025 - 02:44
        +1

        Absolutely.

    • negger on 13/03/2025 - 17:08
      +2

      The parts look like top quality. Mine died under 4 years. Repair costs too much and hard to get rid off it given the upfront outlay. Replaced it with a LG for 1/3 of the price and so far it outlasted the Miele

  • john_conner on 13/03/2025 - 04:25
    +1

    Had the Bosch series 8 for 8 years, zero problems.

    Seals can be replaced easily. Plenty of spare parts available.

    Tip- keep the door ajar when not in use to allow air dry of drum and seals. No mould.

  • khomeini on 13/03/2025 - 06:31

    Not a washer granted but I have a series 8 Bosch dishwasher (German model) which has electrical issues after 2yrs. Regardless, I have mostly Bosch/Gaggenau brands at home.

    In Melbourne, check out the Miele Outlet - https://m.miele.com.au/domestic/3032.htm where you'll get box damage, seconds or run outs for much cheaper than stores - warranty is the same as new products. Call or send them an email and they'll give you a list of models they have with prices (changes based on availability).

    You'll save a tonne. Eg. I could get a Miele dishwasher for less than 1k when I was looking.

  • 82norm on 13/03/2025 - 08:07

    Don’t forget to consider water and energy star ratings too.

  • aliam on 13/03/2025 - 09:36

    Ive owned 2 mieles, 1 bosch, and an asco in the kast 10 years.

    The 1st Miele was about 2.4k in 2008 and lasted about 10 years and i replaced it with a Bosch.

    I always get the models with the highest capacity, as somehow we do 2 washes a day. Kids just love using 3 or 4 cups a day, and not reusing them!

    I was going to buy another Bosch as it was about $1k cheaper in my new house, but they have changed the setup of the cutlery drawer. I think it's now an optional extra.

    Wife wanted the top of the line Miele, so bought that about 12 months ago and its been flawless so far. We got the model that pops open to allow steam out, so the dishes are dryer.

    Someime we use the powerdisk as its so convenient, but its not the ozbargain way!

    Both were exceptional at cleaning the dishes, and i dont rinse plates off - just put them straight into the machine.

    The wifi is a bit of a gimmick - i did 221 cycles last year and 96 so far in 2025.

    Just do what your wife wants, it's not worth the hassle of being wrong!

  • rumblytangara on 13/03/2025 - 09:40
    +2

    I always get the models with the highest capacity, as somehow we do 2 washes a day. Kids just love using 3 or 4 cups a day, and not reusing them!

    I was going to buy another Bosch as it was about $1k cheaper in my new house, but they have changed the setup of the cutlery drawer. I think it's now an optional extra.

    Both were exceptional at cleaning the dishes, and i dont rinse plates off - just put them straight into the machine.

    This is a thread about washing machines, not dishwashers.

    But anyway, the newest generation of Bosch dishwashers has been changed somehow- they do a bad job of cleaning compared to the older models and leave the odd bit of food sitting on the plates or cutlery. The door design also doesn't allow for it to be cracked open slightly to let plastics dry out- the door has to either sit very wide open, or it just closes itself. This applies at least to the 6 Series (which does retain the cutlery drawer.)

    Our Bosch washing machine has so far proven satisfactory but it's only a couple years old so no comments as to its reliability.

    The wifi is a bit of a gimmick - i did 221 cycles last year and 96 so far in 2025.

    Wifi is imo stultifyingly idiotic on any whitegoods product. Of all types of product that don't need internet connectivity, products that should last 10+ years but are made by companies that have zero interest or expertise in maintaining security patches rank at the top of "do not connect to your home network."

  • 91rs on 13/03/2025 - 13:00
    +1

    "when we went to Harvey Norman" - Booooooo

    • Stuj on 13/03/2025 - 17:33

      I couldn’t have said it better myself … lol

  • abuch47 on 13/03/2025 - 13:59

    My Miele 7.5kg was going strong on 12 years not a single issue. The ex kept it though :( a gift from my pa

  • MrMarket on 13/03/2025 - 16:32

    General rules for me white goods/Kitchen goods I go for German and Japanese brand but it must be made in those countries
    for Car I go for Japanese car but the model has to be made in Japan

    following those 2 rules I never had any issues with any of my purchase for years

  • jedimaster on 13/03/2025 - 17:15

    Get a used Miele. I bought a used one W1 classic from fb marketplace to replace my Samsung top loader(still working after 9 yrs but needed front loader for stacking). It runs great and super silent.

  • SoTightEcoLPI on 13/03/2025 - 17:58

    I've had both, my Bosch Serie 8 I-Dos is 4.5 years old. Doing 30 loads a week. Had a faulty suspension changed out of warranty by 6 month's by Bosch. But I am talking 4500 loads+ suspension failure. I do 99% of the washing, the 1 % my wife does she overloads it with 12 towels and kills the suspension. Great machine, don't buy product care. My miele was whining after 2 months warranty and offloaded it on marketplace. Miele refused to accept warranty even with ACL, Productreview and OzB combo. Bosch good. The twinDos System needs refilling and it's cartridge based. Idos just fill and more flexible on detergent specs. We use aldi trimat sensative @ 35ml idos. I legitimately fill up every 5 weeks at 30 loads a week.

    • aumacca on 14/03/2025 - 18:52

      do you have to manually go in and change the iDos setting initially? I use ALDI trimat as well as their Anco fabric softener and just left the iDos to factory default assuming it's set for these standard (not concentrated) liquids.

      • aumacca on 15/03/2025 - 11:49
        +1

        looking at the iDos defaults: for the ALDI liquid I'm using I reduced the washing liquid down to 40 ml iDos (default was 55 ml) and increased the softener default to 60 ml (default was 35 ml) based on container instructions. definitely worth checking as the Bosch defaults may not match the washing liquids everyone uses.

        • SoTightEcoLPI on 15/03/2025 - 14:59
          +1

          As per manual:
          Briefly press the button to activate or deactivate the
          intelligent dosing system for liquid detergent
          (Detergent).
          Press the button for approx. 3 seconds to set the
          basic dosage

          Think default is 55ml as per manual, imo 55ml is way over dosed. I-Dos (sensor that determines how much detergent) only works on the "automatic'' mode which has automatic water temp. On the Auto mode it will use a sensor and force the water temp, It is always 40c+ for me and it shrinks cottons clothes. For a cottons wash the 40ml you have selected would be fine provided it is <30c. I wash at 20c , Cottons, (35ml I-Dos) on One line I-dos / two if it is very dirty, Speed Perfect on, rinse 1400RPM and 0 fabric softener. Have a look half way through a Speed perfect to determine how much soap is in the drum. Enjoy the new settings.

  • 91rs on 13/03/2025 - 18:39
    +1

    I've got a Miele going on 15 years this year without issues. Can't complain about that. It was $1899 from memory.
    Would buy again.

    • MrThing on 14/03/2025 - 17:47
      +2

      $1899 15years ago is bloody expensive

  • Alonzo on 13/03/2025 - 20:48
    -2

    I couldn’t recommend Speed Queen strongly enough. Not for everyone as it’s a top loader, weighs a tonne and is a bit noisy but wow, we wished we’d bought one 3 machines ago. The AU is terrible at the moment, Trump’s execrable, the cost of living is through the roof and the Cowboys are off to their traditional disastrous start to the season, but at least research them. An amazing product.

    • mungas on 13/03/2025 - 20:51

      Dude! How funny, our post timing is impeccable

  • mungas on 13/03/2025 - 20:49

    I've got a recommendation, however based on the examples given above, I don't use mine anywhere near what some people do.

    HOWEVER.. for a toploader, and for extremely simple technology, I'm using a Speed Queen. The thing is solid and doesnt seem to be going anywhere anytime soon. I havent had to repair it so not even sure what the cost would be, however the thing is solid

  • pepitovfr on 13/03/2025 - 21:08

    +1 for F & P

  • Sleeken on 13/03/2025 - 21:16

    Both are good

    We've had miele and they tend to last many years (10+)

  • isidore12 on 13/03/2025 - 21:40
    +1

    Miele are built like in the 80s, before they started to reduce the lifespans of the appliances.

    Bosh replaced metal part by plastic (pump, etc.)

    There is no comparison on the longevity between the two brands.

  • UFO on 13/03/2025 - 21:52

    Speed Queen.

    It'll be the last washer brand you ever own. Yeah they are expensive…. but you'll buy 3 (or more!) washers before you need to buy another Speed Queen. Bullet proof.
    If commercial laundries use them, you know they aren't going to break in a year or 2.

    No fancy computers, no rubbish gimmicks like removing the centre agitator. Old school reliability… and they clean so much better!!!

    • Hangryuman on 15/03/2025 - 09:51

      yair but Speed Queen are Way too big for small spaces in many units - so first check the width and depth of your space before going for one of these babies - and that's even before considering the price …

  • punter1 on 14/03/2025 - 07:46

    We have Miele, still good after more than 10 years.

  • jerjergege on 14/03/2025 - 09:58

    LG Washer and heat Pump Dryer Stacker if you have the money, 2 in 1 combo unit if no space.

  • AustriaBargain on 15/03/2025 - 04:28

    If you know a Meile rep they can help you with warranty and stuff, they'll want to sell you things though while pretending to be your friend.

  • FlyingMiffy on 15/03/2025 - 14:02

    Got the 6 series rather than the 8 but have had it for about 5+ years. Probably used it once every two days and it hasnt missed a beat. Ended up getting a 8 series dryer and that has been awesome for the last 2 years.

  • Yarra Warrior on 15/03/2025 - 16:24
    -1

    Another German made Bosch Wash+Dry 7/4Kg user here. We use it daily. No any issues so far. It's has been 10th years and still going strong.

    We bought it from DJ when on deal for $1349 incl. delivery. Initially I was looking on others but decided on Bosch.

    This is one of the best purchase we've made as it's value for money.

    The only note from me is the noise/quite loud.

    OP, you can't go wrong with Bosch. The rest is just a personal preference.

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