Does This Mean TV's Won't Go up in Price Now?

AlienC on 14/04/2025 - 12:02

Donald Trump spares smartphones, computers and other electronics from tariffs

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/donald-trump-spares-smar…

So I asked chat gpt

The recent announcement by the Trump administration to temporarily exempt certain electronics—such as smartphones, computers, and flat panel displays—from steep U.S. tariffs on Chinese imports may not directly impact television prices in Australia. However, the situation remains fluid and complex.

While these exemptions provide short-term relief, the administration has indicated plans to reclassify these products under new "semiconductor tariffs" within the next one to two months, potentially subjecting them to additional duties citeturn0news24. President Trump has emphasized that "nobody is getting off the hook," suggesting that these exemptions are temporary citeturn0news25.

For Australian consumers, the direct impact on TV prices is uncertain. Tariffs are typically paid by the importer—in this case, U.S. companies—so the immediate effect is on American consumers. However, global supply chains are interconnected, and increased costs for U.S. importers could lead to shifts in global pricing structures. If manufacturers adjust their pricing strategies to offset tariff-related losses, this could indirectly influence TV prices in Australia.

In summary, while the current exemptions may provide temporary stability, the evolving nature of U.S. trade policies and their potential reclassification of electronics under new tariffs introduce uncertainty. Australian consumers should stay informed, as future developments could affect electronics pricing.

Thoughts?

Will tv prices go up you reckon?

Electrical & Electronics TV

Comments

  • Jimothy Wongingtons on 14/04/2025 - 12:06
    +22

    Will tv prices go up you reckon?

    let me talk to my quant ai chat program and get back to you

    • serpserpserp on 14/04/2025 - 20:59
      +4

      Look at him, he won a maths competition in his country

      • derrida derider on 14/04/2025 - 21:11
        +4

        "The Big Short" is a great movie.

      • sobriety22 on 16/04/2025 - 17:15
        +1

        He can't even speak English!
        (Actually I can and I came 2nd in that competition).

    • Dr Phil on 15/04/2025 - 08:07
      -1

      When was the last time TV prices went down in the last 5 years?

      And with the AUD collapsing from US 69c in Sept 24 to US 63c now you can expect even steeper price increases to flow through

      Its even gone down against the Yuan from 4.85 to 4.62.

      • Drakesy on 16/04/2025 - 10:07

        Yep hello secondary inflation

  • JimmyF on 14/04/2025 - 12:14
    +37

    Does this mean TV's won't go up in price now?
    Donald Trump spares smartphones, computers and other electronics from tariffs

    We're in Australia…. If a company is stupid enough to import stuff to the USA from China and then ship to Australia, then they will lose business. Import directly to OZ. Tariffs don't apply if they don't enter the USA.

    • wtfisgoingon on 14/04/2025 - 14:44
      +12

      There's a small but not insignificant risk that some companies who can get away with it will try and spread the extra cost of being in the US around other countries. i.e. raise all their prices around the world rather than just in America.

      But the only company I can think of that might get away with it is Apple. Everyone wants their iPhones so bad there's very little practical competition. Everyone else would be undercut by competitors who don't use the same pricing strategy.

      • Jake D on 14/04/2025 - 14:54
        -7

        It doesn't cost the company any more to be in the US

        • wtfisgoingon on 14/04/2025 - 15:05

          ?

          There's a massive tariff to send your goods to the US now.

          • Jake D on 14/04/2025 - 15:19
            +7

            @wtfisgoingon: There's a massive tariff for Americans to buy goods from other countries.

            • wtfisgoingon on 14/04/2025 - 15:23
              +5

              @Jake D: Oh I see the distinction you mean. Nonetheless, the ability for the producer to pass on that tariff to the consumer depends on the elasticity of demand for their product and the competitive landscape in which they operate. They can't necessarily just slap on the entire tariff.

              So the cost of their product will go up and sales will go down. That means their overheads are bigger relative to the amount of product sold. It does cost more to be in the US due to those flow-on effects.

            • TightAl on 15/04/2025 - 13:32
              +1

              @Jake D: Somebody still thinking the tariffs are 'reciprocal' lmao.

              Typical Trump support identified

          • Qazxswec on 14/04/2025 - 17:39
            +3

            @wtfisgoingon: Tariffs are not for selling goods, they are for buying goods, the Americans pay the tariffs, if China sells something to America for $10 and Trump puts a 50% tariff on it, China still gets their $10 and the Americans pay $15 for the item instead of $10 with the $5 extra going to the government, as for the flow on effect aspect, it is a possibility

            • wtfisgoingon on 14/04/2025 - 18:03
              +1

              @Qazxswec: Yes, I understand that. But the economics of taxation mean that how much of a tax the end user actually pays will depend on elasticities and competition. A company like Apple could decide to effectively cross subsidise into the US market by raising prices everywhere. They might do it for political reasons because who the hell knows what the orange clown will do if Apple is perceived as anti-tariffs.

              • Qazxswec on 14/04/2025 - 19:39
                +1

                @wtfisgoingon: So, instead of losing sales and competitive edge in just America, they would lose sales and competitive edge globally, this is what would happen if a company tried to recoup its loses in the American market by raising prices globally, it is a bad business decision

                • wtfisgoingon on 15/04/2025 - 07:12

                  @Qazxswec: Absolutely you will. But if you're a company like Apple, or another company with very little constraining you, it still might be better to do that. Either to avoid the political fight or to keep pricing parity closer around the world.

                  Hard to say if they will, but it's certainly possible.

              • try2bhelpful on 15/04/2025 - 07:54

                @wtfisgoingon: Apple does that they risk losing sales in other markets. China could just cut them off completely. My ecosystem is Apple but I’m not buying anything new off them for the foreseeable future. This could have the effect of pushing people onto android phones, particularly in countries with high American tariffs because they see Apple as an American company.

                • wtfisgoingon on 15/04/2025 - 09:18

                  @try2bhelpful: I suspect it will hurt them a bit in other markets, but they still might do it. They might do it for the politics. They might do it just to ride out the period with less damage (expecting that eventually the political system will do its job and disempower this idiot in charge).

                  I agree that over the long run this pricing strategy probably wouldn't work in the vast majority of cases. But there might be some fringe cases where we see it, at least in the short to medium term.

          • JimmyF on 14/04/2025 - 20:02

            @wtfisgoingon:

            There's a massive tariff to send your goods to the US now.

            and? We're not the USA, we are Australia.

            • wtfisgoingon on 15/04/2025 - 09:19

              @JimmyF: I've explained why you might still see prices increase in my comments below. I'm not saying it will happen, just that it is a plausible outcome. There's already examples kicking around of companies who might be doing it (e.g. Sony with the PS5).

              • JimmyF on 15/04/2025 - 13:39
                +2

                @wtfisgoingon:

                I've explained why you might still see prices increase in my comments below

                PS5 is off the shopping list if they think the rest of the world should offset the USA tariffs. F#ck Sony if they think the rest of the world should offset the USA because of TrumPted

                • wtfisgoingon on 15/04/2025 - 14:04

                  @JimmyF: Couldn't agree more. Any company that bends the knee to the authoritarian orange man is off my list.

                  • JimmyF on 15/04/2025 - 16:12

                    @wtfisgoingon: Well they're not really bending, the USA hasn't had a price increase, Sony has given a big FU to the rest of the world.

      • ompa-lompa on 14/04/2025 - 20:34
        +3

        Looks like you were right. The PS5 just went up by $100 globally except the US.

        • try2bhelpful on 15/04/2025 - 07:59

          Sounds like the rest of the world has a reason to think before buying the PS5. If demand tanks they will need to drop prices again. However, see how the PS5 prices will increase in America once they put the tariffs on.

          • wtfisgoingon on 15/04/2025 - 09:20

            @try2bhelpful: The tariffs are on. Consoles weren't even excluded by the 'exception'/'non-exception' on smartphones, computers etc.

            • try2bhelpful on 15/04/2025 - 14:39
              -1

              @wtfisgoingon: Hasn’t he paused them for 90 days? I’m getting confused with Trumps flip flopping around.

              • wtfisgoingon on 15/04/2025 - 15:27
                -1

                @try2bhelpful: That's fair. He paused the "reciprocal" tariffs for everyone except China which has 145% on it. The 10% universal tariff also still applies (although reports are suggesting the sheer incompetence of this administration means nobody is actually collecting them yet…)

      • serpserpserp on 14/04/2025 - 21:00

        Not really, you'd have to discount you wholesale product by the amount of the tariff, then put up that price elsewhere, going to be a tall order there.

      • bweiss on 15/04/2025 - 07:55
        +2

        Some companies are already doing literally this.
        Rockwell Automation, a major supplier of automation and control system hardware has raised the prices on all their hardware and software across the world by 4% to remove the requirement on jacking up the prices in the US by a large amount.

        It's mostly only going to be done by US centric companies that need to really keep a hold of their 'A US company' branding. And I suspect it's ultimately going to hurt them. The US is a big economy, but there are still others.. and becoming non-cost competitive in those other economies, and losing huge percentages of sales in non-US regions will ultimately result in their downfall..

        With such random and ever changing tarriffs it will be tough for them to implement the idea successfully anyway.

        • wtfisgoingon on 15/04/2025 - 09:15
          +1

          Yep. Same with Sony probably. A lot of big companies who think they can get away with it will spread the pain as much as possible. In part because of the political implications of being perceived as hurting US consumers (even though the orange clown is the real culprit).

          Hopefully the competitive tensions sort them out over time.

        • JimmyF on 15/04/2025 - 13:40
          +1

          Rockwell Automation, a major supplier of automation and control system hardware has raised the prices on all their hardware and software across the world by 4% to remove the requirement on jacking up the prices in the US by a large amount.

          Sounds like a good reason to look at other vendors.

        • meatgasm on 15/04/2025 - 19:08

          Rockwell Automation

          Ah yes, lets hope the price of the iconic retro turbo encabulator doesnt increase too much.

  • Cluster on 14/04/2025 - 12:19
    +13

    We live in Australia, not the USA. We won't be affected by TV prices over there.

    • magnitude on 14/04/2025 - 18:22
      -1

      AUD is affected though.

      • serpserpserp on 14/04/2025 - 21:01
        +1

        Has it dropped 50% since the tariffs were installed?

  • Marcsie on 14/04/2025 - 12:21
    +1

    lol

  • djsweet on 14/04/2025 - 12:23
    +6

    I don't think anyone is importing TVs from the US? Surely LG/Samsung etc are importing direct from SE Asia. Therefore, unsure why this would affect the price. Perhaps reduced demand from the US could affect pricing, but wouldn't that cause prices to go down rather than up?

    • 2esc on 15/04/2025 - 16:24

      Exactly but that sounds like common sense thinking you cant do that here.

  • mapax on 14/04/2025 - 12:32
    +7

    If anything we would have seen bigger discounts if the tariffs happened as multi-volt electronics that were sitting in China and originally destined for the U.S. could have flooded into Australia.

    • zonra on 14/04/2025 - 12:33
      +1

      This.
      Similar to what’s happening now with Chinese cars.

    • gaz3342 on 14/04/2025 - 13:00
      +5

      It's wild most people can't work this out themselves.

  • Keplaffintech on 14/04/2025 - 12:32
    +4

    Tariffs were likely to make goods in Australia cheaper, as demand would have been reduced

  • SnoozeAndLose on 14/04/2025 - 12:34
    +2

    The TV price in the U.S. should be higher, as people will continue to buy even without an inflated price.

    If a tariff exists, the price of TVs in Australia may decrease due to reduced demand from the U.S., leading to a greater supply available in other markets.

  • DingoBilly on 14/04/2025 - 12:39

    Noone knows. It's basically a coinflip at this point. Anyone confidently telling you it'll go one way or the other is a moron.

    • freefall101 on 14/04/2025 - 12:45
      +2

      ChatGPT answered your question, there's no direct impact (because there's no direct tariffs) but the indirect impacts are a complete unknown at this stage.

      Prices might go down to help move stock then go up. They might go up as suppliers try to increase profits as global sales drop. There might be differences in short and long term.

      The key thing is to figure out what TV you want, wait for a good price on it, buy it then absolutely never look up the price of that TV again.

  • pegaxs on 14/04/2025 - 13:09
    +3

    Why would US tariffs affect what we buy in Australia. They are applied to goods shipped to the US, not here and is paid by their consumers, not the factory or origin country.

    • Gdsamp on 14/04/2025 - 13:32
      -2

      because the Aus market is a drop in the bucket compared to USA. there will be indirect effects as mentioned by others. big question mark over the specifics and the magnitude

    • skittlebrau on 15/04/2025 - 14:08

      Unfortunately, some companies are raising prices outside the USA to spread those costs out rather than increase prices significantly for US consumers.

      • 2esc on 15/04/2025 - 16:29
        +2

        Or just cashing in i have a friend at a major wholesaler of computer parts in Sydney and she has seen a slight reduction 5 to 15% in the prices her bosses are paying out of China over the last few weeks and its not being past on yet locally.

      • pegaxs on 16/04/2025 - 16:19
        +1

        some companies are raising prices outside the USA to spread those costs out rather than increase prices significantly for US consumers.

        This doesn't even make sense. Tariffs are paid in the country they land in. They are not paid in China by the Chinese companies doing the exporting, they are paid at the point of import when they are landed in the USA. There is no "costs to spread" because the burden of tariffs is paid by the end consumers of that country, NOT the manufacturer in China.

        If a manufacturer in China is selling plastic dog shit into the USA for $1 each and the big, orange baby puts a 1000% tariff on Chinese items, then the manufacturer in China is still selling the plastic dog shits for $1. Just now, the "importer" has to pay a "tariff" to the USA government of 1000% of $1 on each unit. This in-turn gets passed onto the end consumers in the USA and they pay it. There are no "costs to spread" to Australians, because the manufacturer in China still sells their plastic dog shits for $1 to the USA and the USA consumers ultimately bear the burden of the tariff, not us.

        This was one of the big issues around the USA election was all the MAGA idiotic dolts that thought that China paid the tariffs that Cheeto man was threatening, and China/Chinese manufacturers dont. The people in the USA pay it. There are no "increased costs" to "spread" for Chinese manufacturers.

  • CodeXD on 14/04/2025 - 13:31

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    Now everything is going to be sent from China to U.S labelled as 8471 code lol

  • Marty156 on 14/04/2025 - 13:40
    -4

    Its all a ruse!
    Think of the latest update to tariffs.
    Won't be on electronic components.

    Guess what most of the parts are -in one of those cars assembled in the USA- bolongs to.
    Electric Jesus anyone?
    So those cars will not be hot by the tariffs in US.

    Very sneaky of the orange man to his best bud!

  • hawthornandrew on 14/04/2025 - 13:51
    -1

    Trade wars are lose for everyone. TVs and other Chinese products might be slightly cheaper as they are dumping their US products elsewhere but….
    it will be inflationary for the whole world. Chinese inputs will be more expensive and this will add to their costs.

    Then Trump could change his mind again……..

    • MrThing on 14/04/2025 - 14:55

      Then Trump could change his mind again……..

      oh no no no, the stable genius has never changed his mind

      except the worst case of insider trading the world has ever seen the other day

      • keeperofthegood on 14/04/2025 - 16:57
        +1

        Would he change his mind again…. like this article from 30 mins ago that switches back on what OP is posting about…

        https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-14/donald-trump-to-annou…

        • MrThing on 14/04/2025 - 17:12
          +2

          So he will crash the share price of nvidia and co, then a week later change his mind, share price rockets. insider trading case #2

          maybe the 3rd or 4th time he does it the world will learn and the markets wont budge regardless what the orange clown does

          • keeperofthegood on 14/04/2025 - 17:14
            +2

            @MrThing: I genuinely don't think they're smart enough to stop though. The spikes will be smaller, but he and his cohort of insiders will be incredibly wealthy at the end of all this.

            • MrThing on 14/04/2025 - 17:28
              +2

              @keeperofthegood: I agree, the spikes and chaos will eventually bounce around to a rounding error and people will ignore it as noise

              but by the time that happens business will have well and truly lost faith in the USA and any chance of manufacturing moving and setting up back in the USA will be dead.

              They talk about the greens and co and their policy positions being sovereign risk for natural resources companies in Australia, what happening in the USA is next level.

      • LFO on 16/04/2025 - 16:03

        the stable genius has never changed his mind

        /cue music

        …she never gives in, she just changes her mind …

        :-|

  • Marty156 on 14/04/2025 - 13:56
    +3

    His what?
    The person that cant fold an umbrella?

  • MrThing on 14/04/2025 - 14:54
    +2

    Hello AI, We are from Australia

    Regards, No tarrifs

  • Hardlyworkin on 14/04/2025 - 16:53

    Buy a TV now if you need)want one and then you won't need to worry what happens.

    • AlienC on 15/04/2025 - 01:35

      But what if it gets cheaper by a lot then I'm the sucker

      • Hardlyworkin on 15/04/2025 - 13:54

        A sucker with a TV however.

  • try2bhelpful on 14/04/2025 - 17:10
    +1

    The tariffs is paid by the importer so the end point consumer ,in this case that is the American consumer. What might happen is we see prices go down as electronics are dumped here. However, we might see them go up because our dollar has dropped. The magic eight ball says unclear.

    • AlienC on 14/04/2025 - 18:16

      Ah I see thanks this answer made the most sense to me.

      So you are saying there is a chance :)

      • try2bhelpful on 14/04/2025 - 23:08

        Finding the sweet spot with TVs is always difficult. But what I will guarantee is as soon as you take the plunge you will see it cheaper two weeks later :). Personally I don’t see the need for the latest and greatest technology with TVs. What source will you be getting your feed from and do you get a good picture from a slightly older technology? Usually when old technology is superseded the price drops to make way for the new.

        Costco generally doesn’t have the latest TVs but you can get them at decent prices.

        Good luck with the hunt.

  • BargainMe on 14/04/2025 - 18:58
    +1

    This ain't USBargain

    • AlienC on 14/04/2025 - 19:50

      But it could be USleftoverBargain yes? yes? yay?

  • OzzyOzbourne on 14/04/2025 - 23:38

    No, but the government and businesses will still try to blame tariffs for increasing costs. They've needed something new to blame instead of Ukraine

  • lew380 on 15/04/2025 - 09:28
    -1

    It's tarrifs between China and the US now, we are not included, it changes every few hours! Maybe China will now be overstocked so their might be good sales in the short-term, but I'm sure with the instability, middle men will find a way to jack the prices up anyway.

    Everyone is complaining about tarrifs, we tarrif America, albeit with the GST (vat in the EU) which is effectively a 10% tarrif from the US perspective, that we also apply to ourselves because we love governments smothering us with taxes, on top of our taxes on top of our taxes. But Americans want free trade and less taxes to foreign entities, and that's an evil thing to want apparently.

    • EBC on 15/04/2025 - 10:10
      +2

      Tariffs and GST aren't the same thing because GST doesn't affect the competitiveness of American goods in the Australian market because all products have the same tax. So it is not a tariff from the American perspective.

    • tanksinatra on 16/04/2025 - 11:01
      -1

      we tarrif America, albeit with the GST (vat in the EU) which is effectively a 10% tarrif from the US perspective

      Mate you're spouting straight MAGA propaganda. Sales taxes/GST/VAT are NOT tariffs because they apply to all products regardless of origin (domestic or imported). Tariffs apply on the importation of products and thus not to domestic products.

      • lew380 on 16/04/2025 - 11:26

        From the American perspective, they see a random tax from us, and are returning the favour. It has less trade barriers, you are right, but it's still a tax from incompetent government.

  • kiitos on 15/04/2025 - 10:58
    +1

    At least, at the end of this all, we will finally all know the correct way to spell "tariff".

  • TightAl on 15/04/2025 - 13:30
    +1

    Trump is the biggest grifter and his supporter base are dumb enough to believe his shit

  • Blargman2001 on 15/04/2025 - 13:58
    +2

    I am sitting here hoping the Chinese dump their extra capacity on the rest of the world and we end up with some good bargains.

  • I like GoodDeals on 16/04/2025 - 11:50

    Well everything is pegged to the US dollar and these corporations need excuses to hike prices.. I don't see prices coming down for TV's and electronics unless people stop buying TV's/electronics which makes the sales YOY growth negative which is never gonna happen.

  • johnfuller on 16/04/2025 - 12:09
    +1

    his zionist friends at apple asked if they can be exempted from the tariff and he agreed so he had to apply it to the entire category instead of just "apple" specifically .. anyway they banned huawei some time ago so soon they will ban the others to keep it fair for apple to have market share

  • LFO on 16/04/2025 - 15:56

    Are you sure it is not Biden the demented one puting and taking tariffs at will?

    Their demented acts feel soooooo similar …

  • TightLikeThisx on 16/04/2025 - 19:15
    +1

    Who knows!

    Basic laws of supply and demand would mean that the price should go down due to decreased demand from the increased price in the USA but…

    Trade is sometimes done in USD so the price can go up if the Australian dollar weakens against it.

    Some companies might choose to let other countries subsidise USA imports so the USA consumer does not pay for the tariffs:
    https://www.euronews.com/business/2025/04/14/sony-hikes-play…

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