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Philips Reverse Osmosis Water Station 4L $566 + Del ($0 C&C) @ Harvey Norman / [Perks] $567 + Del ($0 C&C/ in-Store) @ JB Hi-Fi

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The Philips RO Water Station with Instant Heating is ~$200 off the RRP, and you can get an extra $30 off at both Harvey Norman and JB Hi-Fi via a coupon, bringing the price down to $566 at HN (or $567 at JBHiFi).
The HN coupon is: EXTRA30. For JB, you’ll need to be a JB Perks member to get the coupon.

I’ve been keeping an eye on RO filters since seeing the news reports about deteriorating water quality in major Australian city water supplies. We’ve been using a regular Brita filter for over a decade, but this one has more features like hot water. Lowest price I’ve seen so far, since I started looking for one.

A quick cost analysis.
This comes with a cartridge, and a replacement costs $169, so you are essentially paying around $400 for the machine. A cartridge is supposedly good for filtering 2,000 L, which works out to a cost of $0.084 per liter. This is not too far off from using Brita cartridges, which cost about $0.075 per liter ($68 for a 6-pack, with each cartridge good for filtering 150 L), you may find the Brita cartridges for even cheaper, but those are not RO.

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Comments

  • +2

    How well does this take out fluorine or forever chemicals?

    It only states it reduces contamination but doesn't state by how much %

    • +2

      The advertised filtration precision is 0.0001 µm, which should be effective at filtering PFAS. They say activated carbon pre-filter will remove chlorine and certain pesticides and organic solvents, but no numbers given. (source)

  • +7

    If i hook up another unit, will it reverse it back to normal?

    • +7

      this guy maths!

    • +1

      UNO Reverse!

  • +1

    And what does it do with the contaminants? It pumps them back into its input tank. And keeps drawing from the tank, and pumping the contaminants back into it, and drawing from it again.

    In most of Australia this is what's called "elephant repellant". But there's no elephants around here! That's right, see how well it works. In the parts of Australia where you need stuff filtered out, its not what this unit filters out. Its contaminants like arsenic.

    • +1

      I thought that's what the filter is for…as in the contaminants and chemicals are trapped by and held within the filter? Which is why you replace them?

      • I did too, but then I just googled it and was actually shocked that GordonD is right, the water recirculates the containments…

    • +4

      And what does it do with the contaminants? It pumps them back into its input tank. And keeps drawing from the tank, and pumping the contaminants back into it, and drawing from it again.

      Yes, from what I understand about 1 liter of waste water ends up in the tank for every 4 liters filtered, and you’ll need to dump that out. The system keeps monitoring the contaminant levels before and after filtering, and once it hits a certain point, it lets you know it’s time to empty the tank. (source)

      • What it monitors is the solids level. The non-dissolved contaminants. What a filter would take out. Reverse osmosis isn't about solids, its about dissolved contaminants.

        • +1

          Perhaps its an indirect way to measure the quality of the water ?? i.e: when to dump the waste water .. I don’t know.

          EDIT: Anyway, I bought one. I’m not sure how efficient these systems truly are, at some point, you just have to take the manufacturer’s word for it, and Philips is a brand I feel comfortable trusting.
          At least it’ll be better than the Brita filters we’ve been using. And the instant hot water feature is a nice bonus.

  • +1

    Note, this water won't taste great with tea or coffee because there are no minerals. It'll taste flat.

    I prefer to use an electric water distiller for $100. Gives the same 4L of ~ 0 tds water, except I don't need filters. Both options require remineralisation for taste. I remineralise with Third Wave Water or Rpavlis recipe (Potassium Bicarbonate) to put in espresso machines.

    For regular drinking, I just use a Puretec Z7 under sink filter.

    • +1

      Why do you use puretec when you have distilled water?

      • +1

        Because it's slow to distill 4L and espresso machines don't require that much refilling. For everyday drinking, the Puretec does a great job. It would still cause some limescale buildup in an espresso machine, however. This Philips machine seems quite expensive for what you're getting and for what most people would use it for IMO.

  • Any idea if the cartridges are steel, ceramic or plastic? Does the filtered water have any contact with plastic surfaces?

  • How close does this compare to bottled water (let’s say Frantelle)?

    • +4

      Water not included with this deal, but is included in the Frantelle bottled water.

      • +2

        Frantelle also comes with free macroplastic and microplastic, also not included in this deal

  • +1

    Extraordinarily expensive to clean something that's already clean, but I guess if people really ran out of things to worry about, they could worry about clean water that could be cleaned again

    • +2

      Differing levels of definition of what is 'clean'.

      • I installed a RO filter myself in melbourne. I was surprised to find that our TDS level is so low. Basically, what goes into my system is what comes out of a system in the USA

        (I mainly put the system in because I wanted the water for experiments, brewing, and because we had some rust issues upstream)

    • -2

      What are your qualifications?

    • expensive to clean something that's already clean,

      Are you sure? News didn't say the same.

      • +1

        Can't comment on east coast but WA Water is extremely clean from a health perspective, most of it goes through either an RO unit or a micro filtration/ultrafiltration system at the treatment plants. There's no pfas or micro plastics or anything else they try and scare you with.

        The average part of WA water in some areas is the aesthetics because a lot of it is groundwater with lots of hardness & minerals in it. This will remove those minerals, if your in a suburb where it's higher it may help with taste a little bit if you're sensitive to it but it won't make it any safer or healthier

        Source: Do this for a job. If you are really interested Water Corp publish external test results for all suburbs in their report on their website.

      • +1

        https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-20/cancer-linked-chemica…

        Cancer-linked 'forever chemicals', known as PFAS, have been detected for the first time at numerous water filtration plants across Sydney.

  • +1

    Got to change filters every 12 months.
    Philips aquaporin RO filter replacement costs $169 to $200 from Amazon, BingLee, etc.
    ouch!

  • System Upfront Cost Filter Cost 5-Year Total 10-Year Total Cost (Pure:Waste) Installation + Notable Features

    Philips $567 - $169 - $1,412 - $2,257- 3:1 - Countertop, plug-in Portable, no plumbing, TDS display, SGS-tested for PFAS/fluoride
    ADD6901HBK01

    Waterdrop X $899 - $159.96 - $1,698.80 - $2,498.60 - 2:1 -Under-sink, plumber , Tankless, smart faucet, compact, advanced filtration, easy DIY filter changes

    • the waterdrop RO doesn't do hot water though does it? and installation changes

    • The waterdrop x coming up around $1500 for me. Also, how can you compare these two - they have completely different use case - Philips heats the water for tea/coffee. Waterdrop x does not.

  • If you want RO get a system like Aquasafe and get the remineraliser add-on. After installation the system dumps the waste water directly into your sewerage pipe and it just works. You get your calcium and Mg and no fluoride, pfas, chlorine or other junk in your drinking water.

    • How much does this one cost please?
      And how much for a plumber to install?
      Does it do hot/cold?
      Tia.

      • About $1k.
        I installed it myself, their instructions and support are good enough that if you are fairly handy you could diy.
        Only cold as it filters into a tank that sits under the sink and you draw from that. Never seen hot RO systems.

  • -2

    This is the old model without the Aquaporin tech.

  • Ok for someone who's renting. Otherwise Undersink Reverse Osmosis Water Filter Systems are much better choice.

    • The main reason we chose a benchtop unit is that our main sink is undermounted on an island with an engineered stone benchtop, and we didn’t want to drill into it or have another faucet sticking out. This unit can be kept neatly out of sight in our butler’s pantry. In that respect, it’s the better choice for us.

  • Thanks! Grabbed one, I was waiting for the one that could do 100C and have the jug but not for almost double the price.

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