Philips 5000 Series Digital Rice Cooker – 1.8L,
$149.25 - $70 coupon = $79.25
I had another $10 off promo which made it $69.25
Fluffy Rice for 48 Hours, FreshDefense Technology, Binchotan Coating, 18 Cooking Menus, Smart 3D Heating, Stainless Steel (HD4814/31)
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Thought Hilips is a new chinese brand LOL
Doesn’t appear to have fuzzy logic
This one implements fluffy logic
Where did you find fuzzy logic?
They are going to flop out their fluffy logic
Yeah if it doesn't have fuzzy logic, isn't it no better than a cheap Kmart one? Or just a marketing term and it still has it?
Following, because im really confused if fuzzy logic is worth it?
edit: Tefal Easy Rice & Slow RK7321 has been on sale for $71 before and has fuzzy so might wait
I had a $30 Kmart one which was terrible no matter how correct the water and rice portions were; more recent expensive Tefal is miles better. Even gets the rice cooked normal or sticky.
It must have more logic than just temperature or you’d be back at Kmart
No you are paying for the internal lining, it's not Teflon. So the claim is no forever chemicals.
Fuzzy logic is a marketing term used in the 90s.
The only feedback rice cookers have is temperature, they do not have sensors to detect water level, weight of rice, amount of steam, or type of rice being cooked.
They rely on you to put in the correct amount of rice and water, and tell them what you are cooking. Then based on temperature and progress to adjust heat and remaining cooking time.
It is achieved by using microcontrollers responding to a bunch of predetermined parameters. Microcontrollers are a big deal in the 90s, so they came up with a catch name: fuzzy logic, it's nothing more than a bunch of "if then" conditions.
Modern appliances have stopped using that terminology, except a handful of rice cookers to justify their high price. Have you heard of fuzzy logic microwaves, or Thermomix mentioning fuzzy logic in their brochure?
Yep, if a rice cooker has modes for different kinds of rice instead of a single lever you press down that pops when the rice is done, it is definitionally a descendent of the rice cookers marketed as "fuzzy logic" 20 years ago
Why do people rave about Zojirushi and other similar brands?
Becasue of the flavour. I bought mine from Japan and its miles better than any of the other cheaper ones. Cuckoo is 2nd best.
@TEER3X: Texture too - but you can feel more nuttiness coming out of the Zojirusshi(especially if you use quality Koshikari rice)
@Solario31: What is the mechanism of changing the flavour?
This sounds like you are describing placebo
@Wolfenstein98k: Theres alot more than the cooking element in a rice cooker.
Theres heating element (electric from bottom, Induction all around, or Induction + Pressure).
Then there is actual logic in where it varies what the machine does as the rice cooks and the water evaporating adjusting for over water or under water.
Then the last component is the bowl technology and how much heat retention it can hold and infer onto the rice. Some higher end ones can produce water to steam and cook rice at 103 - 106 degrees under pressure. This itself draws out the flavour in rice (good rice, not the cheap crap sunrice at colesworth).
Entry bottom element rice cookers range from $30 - 200 bucks (kmart - Zojirushi/Tiger/Panasonic/Cuckoo)
Next level up are Induction models 300 bucks, or electric + pressure
$600 bucks gets you a Tiger IH + Pressure with a good multi layered pot. Zojirushi in Australia are a rip off they charge $550 for an IH, no pressure model.
This video is an end game Tiger model costing 2k. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4rsjeVW4k0
Have a look at it and the cost to produce those clay enamal glazed pots, that support IH pressure.
I would say one more thing, there are techniques to cooking rice, what type of rice, including how long to wash/rinse, how long to presoak, what setting to use on the rice cooker, how long to leave after cooking, then airate then further leaving the rice in the pot. Then consuming. It all plays into how the flavour and texture is produced.
@slam: So an Instant Pot (pressure) would be far superior to a non-pressure venting fuzzy model, like the Panasonic?
@Wolfenstein98k: You can try, it all comes down to how long the rice cooker cooks the rice and when it considers to stop as enough water has evaporated. I dont think an instant pot knows, as its just set and forget and boils for a certain amount of time.
It doesnt compensate for weight and over boiling of water or under boiling if you didnt put in enough water for rice.
@Plutolio: They might be - I bought mine of Amazon japan on one of the deals they had. Make sure you get the "Tourist model" as they call it as the power is diffrent(unless you'll want to buy a bulky adapter/converter).
That being said, there is a plain difference in the output result between a $20-50 rice cooker from a western brand (whether its kmart anko or a "real brand" like the cheaper Breville one) and a $100+ Asian one (whether Cuckoo, Panasonic etc.).
Regardless of the fact that "fuzzy logic" is a basic $3 microcontroller and some simple software routines, its clear that the cheaper western brands do not implement this functionality, and that even the pricer Western brands like Phillips in my experience have more limited functionality and not quite as nice rice as a similarly pried Cuckoo. Can get a Cuckoo for as little as $120 that has many effective modes for different tasks that cooks rice slower and with more precision producing nicer rice. Yes, the hardware might only be a few bucks but its got to be integrated into the product with a UX, software and testing, which costs money.
Fuzzy logic is just ITTT
I came here for fuzzy logic comments!
i have the cuckoo from costco for a few years now with heavy use and still going strong.
cuckoo is a very reputable brand for rice cookers
Stainless seems to refer to the outer, with the inner pot being some sort of non-stick. For those trying to reduce forever-chemical exposure.
Think of all the WiFi and 5g signal you'll pick up :]
Especially if you have had the jab
Still find it hard to find one which have a stainless steel inner pot. Would love to see some recommendations.
Seen Buffalo recommended a few times here. Haven't used one but was looking at changing to that next for the stainless steel pot.
I bought a buffalo, it has a stainless steel pot. Bit expensive, but its good to know i wont be eating that non-stick stuff after my last panasonic inner pot started to give.
Yeah, you can do it in an instant pot. Turns out perfect. 3 minutes on high with a 10-minute rest once it's done before you release the seal.
@TurtleTrooper: Every time I burn a pot of rice I tell myself I'm going to use the instant pot next time, then next time I forget and burn another pot of rice.
@reactor-au: Hah sounds like you're not using enough water. With an instant pot you only need 1 - 1 ratio of water to rice so this might help you!
@reactor-au: Doing it once in the rice cooker/instant pot will change your life. So easy and perfect every time
Cleaning isn’t for the faint hearted
Have both buffalo and cuckoo ih rice cooker. Cuckoo wins by miles.
but having them forever is a good deal
The 6 layer aluminium inner pot, with a thickness of 2.5 mm, is extra thick, effectively enhancing heat distribution.
Bought one, thanks
Yeah I need a black rice cooker got one..
Bought one. Thanks op. Good size and seems a good deal for $80
Great find. Ordered
Nice find was about to purchase a Cuckoo from Costco, but this is great price and good reviews.
Purchased for $69.25 (non prime user)
How did you get $10 more off
I had a clickable coupon, before I added to cart
My colleague did not have this, so I guess its targetted ?
Great price, this is a 10 Cup rice cooker and depth is pretty significant (367mm), so just be mindful if your Kitchen is a compact one.
The head room may be handy to steam or reheat other things on top. But a 5 cup model is probably sufficient for many without taking up too much bench space.
I bought the Temu rice cooker for $150. Has been better than any Tiger brand one I used to use. Full stainless steel pot.
can share the link?
Not saying it is the case, just beware that there are reports of non food safe stainless steel products sold online.
So sometimes best to buy reputable brands from reputable sources.
Been using my $12 kmart rice cooker for years now, i dont know why we need such fancy equipment when simple is genius (and easy to clean, very important). Time for the trusty ol' Technology Connections video on why old is gold!
I was thinking about getting this one. Will go with kmart one now.
Forever Chemicals
Have a mid-range Cuckoo brand and cheapo one: Cooks white rice a little better, cooks different rice types like brown rice much better, can set a timer, can customise keep warm temp, multi functions allows it to be essentially be used as a slow cooker to make things like congee or brisket. And it's really not that hard to clean, the inner lid can easily be popped off and washed.
I was of the same school of thought, until only last night when we tried to cook up not just rice but a bit of a meal, in the Kmart rice cooker. It ended up coming out quite poorly with dry crunchy rice (but the chicken and other things were cooked).
Then, surprise surprise - this deal shows up!! Perfect timing.
My thinking is that this Philips one, will be better for cooking those kind of dishes that include chicken, veggies etc.
If I was just going to cook plain rice, to be honest I'd be happy to stick with the K-Mart model.
what they think of the stone pots rice cookers? or just go with teflon
This is not Tefflon, it's Binchotan (basically 95% carbon), without the same forever chemicals as Teflon and other non-stick coatings.
Potentially not as safe as stainless steel, but personally find both stainless steel and stone rice cookers too hard to clean, unless you get immediately on it.
stainless steel unless you get immediately on it
Just need to soak it for a tiny while.
The one you linked uses thermostat to turn off cooking, same as a $10 Kmart one.
I will say that I have bought this one to replace the one that you have linked. The steam sealing of the Sunbeam has been absolutely crap. Constantly splashing and dripping out onto the counter. Also the condensation trap at the rears is a really poor design.
I have obviously not gotten the Phillips one yet, but it looks like a better overall design in that way. Time will tell.
Purchased!
I have cooking rice in Microwave for a few years and total satisfaction, no need for any rice cooker anymore.
False
This is the kind of medical advice I hear from older chinese folks. Along with cold drinks cause illness
Good old saucepan with lid on and heat turned off has been fine for 50+ years 🤣🤣
thank you OP got one for $57.8 with double coupon and 10% off gc and cashreward if any.
description say it has Steaming basket, can anyone confirm?
where does it say that?
On the Amazon page
click on "See more product details"
and it states "Included Components Measuring cup, Steaming basket, Spoon"
10KITCH120NP and 10HOME60NP lets me get this for $60
Targeted it seems, at lease one of the codes is.
these dont stack for me even I have access to both
maybe I had a $10 off from amazon prime day rewards
From what I can find, Binchotan coatings do not contain forever chemicals such as PFAS, PFOA, or PTFE, which are synthetic compounds commonly found in non-stick coatings.
More curious about how the 'FreshDefense' thing works lol.
Same, they talk about the humidity, but more likely the "safe" part it's keeping the temp above 60c, possibly 65c to be safe.
And the humidity is just some sort of closed loop to stop the steam\moisture escaping and drying the rice out.
Can anyone give a comparison between using this and the red round decor microwave rice bowl? Is there that much of an end quality difference (besides keep warm) that justifies this?
Not cooking in plastic, for one?
Soups, steaming, keep warm function, health benefits
Once you use an actual good rice cooker, you'll never go back to microwaving rice. However, every time you visit your mum who still uses the same microwave rice steamer from decades ago, you'll consider buying her a proper rice cooker.
Purely health (avoiding the forever chemicals), as objectively when done right the Microwave approach can get excellent results in a fraction of the time without requiring a bulky appliance.
If you have a large family, then the keep warm function (lasts for hours), avoids re-heating rice which can be quite dangerous to your health.
Use APP20 for amazon app first purchase to get for $59.25
Thanks OP great deal!
Do you by any chance have a screenshot/receipt of the ricecooker while it was on sale for $80?
Where do we get the coupon from?
It is showing as full price for me $149.25.
Coupon should apply automatically at checkout.
Doesn't work, is this a prime deal?
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