Regaine Men's Extra Strength Minoxidil Hair Regrowth Treatment 4 x 60mL $87.49 + Delivery ($0 C&C/ in-Store) @ Chemist Warehouse

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Guys it's half price again.
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  • -1

    PRICE in title
    STORE in title

    Read the posting rules.

  • Free?

  • Guys it's half price again.

    It's not half price, they normally sell it for $148.99

    • Post does say "half price" (incorrect), Chemist Warehouse site says "Better than half RRP", RRP being $175.

      • Chemist Warehouse site says "Better than half RRP"

        Which is againt the ACCC advertsing laws as they don't normally sell them at RRP…

        • Do you reckon the ACCC would class that as misleading or will CW get away with it, on a technicality, by saying "half RRP"?

          (I'm not saying it's morally right, seems dodgy to me)

          • +1

            @A 1:

            ACCC would class that as misleading

            It specifically says that you cannot advertise a price comparison to RRP when you do not normally sell it for RRP.

    • Sweeping generalisations are always correct! /s

    • You found the 10 users using this product.

    • With androgenetic alopecia, treatment options are on a want rather than needs basis.

      Options under medical advice can retain hair for multiple decades, with a minimal to no side effects profile for the majority of men.

      To consider, discuss with your GP first for more information and guide your own research.

  • +2

    https://www.chemistwarehouse.com.au/buy/6051/loniten-10mg-ta…

    Cut into quarters and you've got over a year supply for $31.50

    Yes it requires a script but you can quite easily get it through bulk billed telehealth.

    • I didn't know that we could get a script for Minoxidil throhgh telehealth!

    • Oral minoxidil eh? Is it better?

      • I stopped it. Started growing micro hairs on my ears and nose and parts of my face that i never had hair on. Going to get Spirolactone tablets and make my own 2% spiro with 5% finasteride in aloe vera and maybe add 1% ketoconazole

        • +2

          If you are male, please do not use spironolactone for the purposes of androgenetic alopecia. It is contraindicated. Please discuss with your GP immediately if you are considering this.

          • -2

            @muwu: Its reddit approved from the gym bros 🤣🤣.

            It is contraindicated

            Its experimemtal for males and not FDA approved, doesnt mean it doesnt work. Same as using clomid to treat low test which works wonders if you dont get the bad sides

            • +2

              @easternculture: Spiro is feminising - it will cause the development of female secondary sexual characteristics in men who take it (e.g. breast glandular growth, subcutaneous fat deposition) and increase acne and mood lability - as well as inducing infertility. Risks can also include clots, heart disease, strokes, chronic liver failure, hyperkalemia and cardiac arrest.

              SPL is strictly an alopecia option for women only, men must not use.

              Older men may be prescribed spiro if indicated for chronic congestive heart failure.

              • @muwu: There is plenty of research to confirm safety of 2% topical spiro with no systemetic side effects.

                https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10010138/

                • @easternculture: Topical has some (much less) systemic absorption and bioavailability - avoid!

                  If you can find some small statistical significance (likely with very low power) or, more likely, some suggestive data in the absence of statistical significance, at best the therapeutic benefit if it exists will be very small, and therefore no way should be considered against the very serious risk of side-effects and adverse events.

                  • @muwu: No offense, but i would trust evidence based research more than text book advice.

                    • @easternculture: The issue is interpreting the research data, in your case (and most people who don't have a tertiary level education in statistics and research in a scientific discipline) and applying that in a balanced therapeutic model.

                      • @muwu: Why would i want to interpret the data myself when the paper literally does that for me.

                        • +2

                          @easternculture: That's not how research works

                          • -1

                            @muwu: Another research 5% spiro in treating acne for m/f that suggests its safe

                            https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8247934/

                            Another study suggests its safe and effective for males

                            Based on the results obtained in the present
                            study, we can conclude topical spironolactone is
                            better than topical finasteride in the treatment of
                            androgenic alopecia in male and female group.
                            More studies with a large number of patients and
                            prolonged follow-up are needed to confirm this
                            and to compare the efficacy of topical finasteride
                            versus topical spironolactone in the management
                            of androgenic alopecia.

                            • @easternculture: Re: first study linked

                              n = 5 (men)
                              Data on side-effects, nil provided
                              Methodology designed for acne vulgaris, not androgenetic alopecia, and all data related to comedonal scoring

                              I mean, and that was from a <5min perusal. That one study would need a couple of hours of analysis to comprehensively understand, and then you'd need to be literate in the field of study and familiar with the body of research (> 100s of hours) to understand what it could potentially be adding.

                            • @easternculture: And the second study.

                              n = 16 (men on topical SPL)
                              Comparative between treatment arms (top SPL vs. top fin), no control group
                              All statistics generated are p values of non-significance (>0.05), as in results are about showing non-difference (i.e. they are non-confirming)

                              Again, this is only from a <5min perusal. I'm sure the study can offer some insight, it would be a matter of interpretation and understanding the current literature (i.e. put the hours in to understand the research). But if the exercise is to cherry-pick some studies that give a pithy conclusion that sounds like it matches the confirmation bias you are seeking, that's certainly not what the researchers wanted the study to be used for.

                              • @muwu: Ok.

                                So you say spiro is contraindicated in males due to side effects (which i disagree btw, its not approved by FDA to treat MPB although my understanding is it can still be prescribed in the US for males). What is the real life numbers of males who had side effects from topical spiro. Im not referring to cardiac patients on high doses of oral spiro, but those who took 1% or 2% spiro and experienced test/estradoil imbalances that lead to unwanted sides like gyno backed by independent research and not pharma clinical trial paid research.

      • +1

        It's not only better but it's so much less of a hassle than manually putting that greasy stuff on your scalp twice a day. Don't have to worry about washing your hands and keeping your pets away from your head either.

        There's a reason why basically all hair loss clinics prescribe it, although with a giant markup.

      • In terms of effectiveness, presuming perfect compliance with topical application, no there is no improved response using oral.

        However, typical use with topical is less than ideal for most men because they are not likely to comply with bd applications because it can be arduous to maintain the regimen and it can cause roots of hair to be more oily and interfere with styling (which is why nocte applications are more consistent than mane).

        • +1

          no there is no improved response using oral.

          Incorrect. If you lack the enzyme minoxidil sulfotransferase (SULT1A1) in the hair follicles, then topical min is ineffective.

          Source: i had zero response to topical and full blast response to oral min

    • +1

      That price ($31.50) is the PBS subsidised amount, which is only for patients indicated for intractable hypertension (which this medication is very rarely used for).

      The private price, which you'll pay off-label indicated for androgenetic alopecia, is now ~$45-50.

      There is no standardised dosing recommendations and research data is limited. A quarter dose (2.5mg) daily may be appropriate for many men. Some men could use 5mg daily, some might get minor side-effects (peripheral oedema, dizziness or palpitations) or respond to lower dosing. Women probably don't need any more than 1.25mg daily, and will need to be a lot more cautious because of sensitivity to hirsuitism (body hair).

      Before starting on oral dosing, consider your compliance and likelihood to maintain compliance to topical application as a first line, and the possible side effect profile of having it systemically dosed. As usual, start low and go slow.

      Scripts should be provided by a doctor comfortable with off-label treatment of androgenetic alopecia, which are dermatologists and some GPs. Not all doctors have this experience, so be prepared to be referred. You should be approaching to query use of oral minoxidil only after at least 6 months of using topical and can relate an experience in regard to compliance (consistency of use) and response (vertex hair regrowth and slowing progression).

      Source: doctor

        • +1

          Please DO NOT use exogeneous anabolic steroids.

          The risks are massive (and irreversible) and they have no indicated therapeutic benefit.

          (in the case of a severe testosterone deficiency as can be the case in rare pituitary tumors or inherited genetic or chromosomal abnormalities, please consult with your endocrinologist very carefully about it's risk/benefit analysis)

        • +1

          Brother your comments are concerning as heck. Please don't take anything or change anything until you see a (new?) GP.

          Spiro, steroids - you're bouncing around on wild stuff, and you appear to not even know if you have MPB.

          Please stop shopping around based on internet content and see a doctor.

          • +1

            @Wolfenstein98k: Actually ill delete the comment so other people dont get motivated lol

            • @easternculture: Brother that's insane.

              A doctor wouldn't be wrong about MPB (unless they mistook another type of alopecia). Nuking your hair to "check" if you have MPB is insane.

              Go off Fin if you want. You don't have to be on it.

              But if you advance your hair loss noticeably just to realise you want to be back on it, you've basically irreversibly lost years of hair.

              • @Wolfenstein98k: I actually dont want to be back on it. Rather have more muscle size than hair on my head TBH. The fin has stopped my muscle growth (due to DHT blocking) but last 3 weeks ive put on 4kg of dry gains which has made me want the DHT now 🤣

                • +1

                  @easternculture: What on earth are you talking about?

                  DHT-blocking doesn't reduce muscle gain. In fact it marginally overseas free testosterone (because it is blocked from covering to DHT), so in theory Fin would increase muscle gain.

                  In practice it won't because the changes are minimal.

                  I don't know what exactly "dry gains" are, but if you're putting on 1.25kg of mass per week, it won't be lean mass.

                  • @Wolfenstein98k: DHT is much more potent than test, somewhere between 5 to 10 fold if not more due to its stronger binding affinity to receptors. Its one of the reasons pro bodybuilders take a DHT based AAS in combination with test e. Depending on the AAS , its realistic to put on between 5 to 10kg of dry mass gains in a 6 week cycle.

                    When you block converstion of almost 70% of DHT, muscle gains will slow, reduce or cease depending on genetics and other nutritional factors.

                    • @easternculture: Deeply incorrect.

                      Something isn't just "potent", it's potent at doing something or causing something.

                      DHT is not required for hypertrophy and taking it does not induce it. Studies show Finasteride does not reduce gains.

                      • @Wolfenstein98k: Each to their own. But read true experiences from weight trainers on bb forums. Some people experience growth, others dont when fin is started. From what i gather, its mostly related to genetics.

                        My progress plateaued when i started fin, literally minimal gains over last 1.5 years.

                        • @easternculture: Strongly suggest you stop getting your medical advice from forums. See a doctor, or dermatologist if you don't trust GPs.

                          But plenty of bodybuilders are on Fin to keep their hair while they juice.

                          • @Wolfenstein98k:

                            But plenty of bodybuilders are on Fin to keep their hair while they juice

                            But they also take Anabolic steroids with a higher Anabolic to Androgenic ratio then test
                            , some 100 times stronger than test 🙂

                            suggest you stop getting your medical advice from forums.

                            These are real user experiences. More valuable than text book medicine

                            Some experience increased strength, other have a decline in strength. Same with muscle mass.
                            Each individual experience is unique which is very interesting

                            • +1

                              @easternculture: Not more useful because they don't know how to accurately test responses. They don't know which variable is causing which effect.

                              When studied, it's confirmed that DHT has minimal effect on hypertrophy compared to test.
                              Finasteride marginally increases test while substantially depressing DHT. The effect is a wash.

                              When observed scientifically, Finasteride produces basically null impact on hypertrophy.

                              You need to understand that the scientific process matters and has value. Dudes on forums do not, because you have no idea what they're changing when they go on or off Fin. What else they're changing, did they claim the impact was immediate, etc.

                              And some people just react weirdly to any given thing.

                              Ask a doctor.

                              • @Wolfenstein98k: So do you agree that everyone has unique genetics and the muscle tissue response to natural anabolic agents differs from one person to another?

                                When observed scientifically, Finasteride produces basically null impact on hypertrophy.

                                No one said finesteride impacts.
                                We are discussing DHT vs testosterone.
                                And by blocking DHT conversion, does it increase free or total test?

                                • @easternculture: Both, although it eventually stabilises back to the levels before taking Finasteride.

                                  I'm not discussing DHT, I'm discussing Finasteride which you brought up.

                                  I'm trying to convince you that you may lose hair if you quit it, but you won't see improved gains.

  • As with all posts on minoxidil and alopecia treatments, please be careful of ill-informed comments. (refer to previous posts comments for the typical discourse)

    There are effective and measured options available for this cosmetic condition, and medical advice is best sought.

    There's no right or wrong decision, only one that suits each man.

    Source: doctor

    • -5

      If your a dr doesnt really mean anything to me from an online pov.

      All the GPs i go to literally have no idea most of the time, to the point that i have to tell them what to prescribe for me or what tests to order majority of the time.

      Even hospital nurses know more than drs and i see them tell drs what to do or prescribe all the time.

      • +2

        In the training pathways of all medical professionals, it is essentially only dermatologists who have a comprehensive education in androgenetic alopecia, which will include the less typical off-label medication uses and the limited research data on this topic.

        GPs are much more variable (as is true for many topics for GPs, which is why many refine their practice to subspecialities of general practice, e.g. paediatrics, skin cancer, women's health, etc.) - many will have a fairly entry level understanding of androgenetic alopecia and will mostly discuss topical options and then refer to a dermatologist, especially once finasteride is considered. There are GPs out there who have a much better understanding and can you can progress further in therapeutic considerations.

        I have that personal experience - both as a doctor who has developed a special interest in androgenetic alopecia, as well as a patient who has sought out numerous GP consults to refine my own therapeutic approach and have the support of a sound GP.

        Doctors aren't meant to agree with you and go along with your pre-established ideas on treatment. That pullback is by design, for safety and achieving aims to are more likely to provide benefit and reduce harm. If you consult with multiple doctors and can't establish a healthy therapeutic relationship, it's time to reflect on your approach.

  • Another -1 for topical Minoxidil and +1 for oral from me.

    Topical works for about 40% of the population, and for them it only works "reasonably well or better" for about half (20% of total pop).

    Oral works for everyone, due to not relying on the scalp enzymes, and works at least as well.

    Start at a low dose (0.625 for women, 1.25 for men) and move up from there if needed. Take your time. Monitor for side effects.

    Do this in concert with a doctor.

  • This is exactly the same as this:

    https://www.chemistwarehouse.com.au/buy/40664/hair-a-gain-ha…

    But more expensive for reasons unknown to me. I've used hair a-gain for many years with only the usual, mild side affects so far.

  • Just get Hair A-Gain. It's the exact same stuff.

    Anyone who pays more for this is an idiot.

    though in saying that, on sale this is $1.50 cheaper than Hair A-Gain - so I guess go for it at this price? Lol

    • The MBP industry is a scam. The topical min is so cheap to make but they charge a premium. Same things applies to ketoconazole shampoo that has almost doubled in price since last year and Generic sebizole has been pulled out of the market.

  • Did you know if you have this on and your cat lies near your head, it will die.

    • what about dog?

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