Nulon Shift Ya Bastard 400g $7.00 (Was $14.99) C&C/ in-Store Only @ Supercheap Auto

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Edit: For context of the below rant you need to see the many user documents on the WD-40 deal - https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/921148

I started using this a few months ago, far better than my tainted memories of the non lubricant WD-40 in it's penetrating/loosening aspect, plus it does actual lubricate.
wouldn't rate it quite as good as the Wurth Rostoff range, but pretty close. For the price difference, it makes Wurth hard to swallow unless you have some crazy stuck thing that you can't use heat on.

As per the recent WD-40 post, in my time as a professional bicycle mechanic, I tested WD-40 by spraying a fully stripped cleaned bike chain until it was soaking wet. A few hours later we tested it and found it to be 100% dry. The following day we fitted it to a bike and it squealed like a pig from being so dry.
For those that feel they have had WD last longer, I am assuming you already had some lube/factory grease still on the chain. WD would have broken that down, and if not removed 100% of it, it would still be present and active.

Last night I sprayed a corrugated iron wall, and another peace of clean steel and a fully cleaned motorcycle chain, that has been sitting dry in my shed for over a year with Shift Ya Bastard. Tonight I felt all three items and they were all showing signs of a wet lube.

That said, don't use this or WD as a bicycle chain lube, just go buy a proper bloody bicycle chain lube, even half assed ones don't cost much and will last aeons. But this will get you out of trouble if you need, and last significantly longer than WD-40.

Anyway, form the Nulon site:

PENETRATES: Penetrates fast to help loosen rusted or corroded nuts and bolts, and helps prevent equipment from seizing due to rust or heat. Ideal for locks, exhaust parts, power antennas, taps, pipe-fittings, valves, tools and hinges. Use it anywhere a penetrating lubricant is needed. Nulon Shift Ya Bastard helps make things work like new again.

LUBRICATES: Wheels, casters, hinges, locks, latches, chains, bikes, in-line skates, workshop and garden tools, fishing rods and reels. Use Nulon Shift Ya Bastard anywhere a light and long lasting lubricating film is required. It makes assembly and disassembly of parts easier and stops annoying squeaks and squeals.

WATER DISPERSANT: Nulon Shift Ya Bastard helps start wet motors fast – dispersing moisture (water) from distributor caps and spark plug leads. Use Nulon Shift Ya Bastard during servicing to seal out moisture with a micro-thin continuous film. Ideal for all electrical and ignition systems, starter motors, spark plugs and switches. Use it after degreasing engines to protect electrical connectors from corrosion.

RUST PREVENTATIVE: Prevents rust by impregnating corrosion inhibitors into all metal surfaces. Ideal for garden equipment, sporting equipment and tools. Nulon Shift Ya Bastard protects exposed iron and steel surfaces against rust.

CLEANER:Nulon Shift Ya Bastard softens and helps clean away road tar and splattered bugs from paintwork. It dissolves and helps remove oil, grease, sticker adhesive, road grime and even permanent ink. Use it on aluminium window frames and glass to stop cement splatter from sticking.

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Comments

  • Decent price. Will grab a can..cheers.

    WD is just a kerosene based product. Not a lubricant (other than some oil residue from the kero).

    • +1

      I posted the WD-40 SDS details in the WD deal so they could see the facts:

      SDS for Australia - https://media.wd40.com.au/app/uploads/2022/02/22192927/WD-40…

      Petroleum Base Oils - 10-<30%
      Distillates (Petroleum), hydrotreated light - 30-60%
      Naptha(petroleum), hydrotreated heavy - 5-15%
      Carbon Dioxide - <5%

      • So…kero with a drop of diesel??

    • +1

      I always thought wd40 was fish oil

  • Can be used for garage door rollers?

    • +9
      • How does this compare to a silicone based spray (which is sometimes recommended for roller doors)?

        • +11

          I did this mistake once and only once.

          Never ever spray on and into the side rails, it'll work intially but over time it will collect any and all dust and debris into the rails creating friction, essentially binding the door up. The corrugated doors with the fabric on the edges are especially bad for this but it will affect folding doors eventually too.

          You'll need to use a 'dry lube' for this like a dry wax or a PTFE based one which will work much like a non-stick frypan and allow it to just slide along the tracks.

          Silicone spray can be used on the folding mechanisms and roller bearings to keep them freed up.

          • @ConsumerAffairs: This explains a lot for me

          • @ConsumerAffairs: Does that advice also mean to avoid Lithium grease on roller doors too?

            https://www.bunnings.com.au/wd-40-300g-specialist-high-perfo…

            • @cooperdog: Yep. The residue left by these types of sprays is the problem, they're fine when it's between two hard surfaces that generally don't have room to let debris in.

              There are sprays available specifically for garage doors that dry which prevents the said debris stocking.

              • @ConsumerAffairs: Hi, thanks for the info. Any particular brand you recommend for garage doors? Or can just get anything that says it is dry lube / PTFE / Garage door specific?

                And if I get the dry lube - can it be used all over my tilting garage door? Or is silicone spray actually better for certain parts?

          • -1

            @ConsumerAffairs: Candle on the rails?

          • @ConsumerAffairs: Thanks for the great info @ConsumerAffairs. Unfortunately I have used a silicone spray on my garage door rollers and have exactly what you are mentioning.

            @skillet has recommended Nulon Pro-Strength PTFE Dry Lube Aerosol Spray 300ml PDL300 but I guess I will need to somehow remove the silicone spray before I use the dry lube so any tips from either of you how to get the silicone spray off or clean where i have used it?

  • +10

    whatta product name

  • Anyone having problems buying this off SCA? Loops back to cart after payment :(.

    • +18

      You need to add another product: Pay Ya Bastard.

    • means it's out of stock at your chosen store

  • +1

    This stuff worked getting a corroded tap hose off a stopcock…

    https://www.repco.com.au/oils-fluids/greases-lubricants/lubr…

    Wd-40 didn’t work at all

    • +1

      Shift Ya Bastard sounds better though

  • +10

    Of course that's what wd-40 would do, the wd stands for water displacement.

    • Thanks for saying that… had me wondering if everyone else was taking crazy pills.

      • +1

        You'd be amazed how many people think it's a general purpose lubricant

    • +3

      40+ years working in mechanical workshops and on cars, trucks, bikes, trailers, marine, etc I have never seen anyone sane trying to use WD 40 as a lubricant.

      If it won't release with ATF+Acetone you use temperature variance. If that doesn't work you're creating more work than its replacement is likely worth.

      There is a reason why WD-40 have lubricant variations and even one for bikes. Convenience.

      • 100% agree, I banned it from general use in my workshop. I had it where I knew it was for specific uses only.
        For context on my post, you need to see the WD-40 post with many people still thinking it's a lube, because WD-40 says it is…..you know, because they would never lie…

        • +2

          WD-40 is the modern snake oil. It's just some solvent that evaporates then you back to square one again. When most people grab a WD-40 is when they actually need some spray lube. Then the best product in the first place is a can of Aussie made Aussie own Inox MX3.

          The MX3 will do everything WD-40 does and it will work better and more. It's not kerosene based and it is a light lubricant.

          • @skillet: I spray INOX everywhere - what is the magic in this stuff? it is leaves a light residue and is great in a marine environment. I buy it by the 5L and use the pump spray bottles.

    • Some people just don't know, and believe their marketing BS.

  • +1

    That reminds me to get some Start Ya Bastard to try out on my old lawnmower.

    • -1

      The electric one?

    • I tried spraying Start Ya Bastard on my old lawnmower. Had the opposite effect. She didn't like it at all and even refused to cook tea, I couldn't find any Cook Ya Bastard.

    • I believe it's on sale right now but I doubt it's any better than generic starting fluid

  • This is good stuff for potato cannon fuel

    • Brake cleaner or degreaser at $4 a can is more ozbargain

  • +2

    I want to get this just because of the name

  • +1

    This sort argument is crazy to me, like apple v windows back on Usenet or Linux vs windows on slashdot.
    Of course wd-40 is a lubricant - spray it on a seized bolt and it moves. But it is such a light lubricant it evaporates and leaves such a modest film it isn't useful for longer use.
    Similarly, nobody will say bearing grease isn't a lubricant, but it won't penetrate a stuck bolt.

    All that said, I have a couple of cans of some silicone based wd-40 alternative that penetrates and lasts a bit longer for ongoing light lubrication. I reckon this stuff is similar, and a better alternative.

    • +2

      Wd-40 is not a lubricant. I don't know how else to put it. Yes, it's wet, but lubricant means a very specific thing in this context and wd-40 isn't one.

      • Correct, Standard WD40 is a solvent!

      • -1

        I guess there is a page in the notes from a first year tafe course that has been photocopied a million times that authoritatively states wd-40 is not a lubricant because in motor mechanics or bike chain repair or chainsaw maintenance or whatever the context of that course is, it is an inappropriate lubricant because it evaporates quickly leaving no lasting lubrication.
        But you can see how silly it is to insist because it is not a lubricant suitable for engines or sprocket gears it therefore is not a lubricant when it frees a stuck bolt or a reluctant gate catch or something that isn't a mechanism needing high speed, ongoing metal on metal contact.
        It's like insisting axle grease is not a lubricant because it won't work in an engine or sewing machine oil is not a lubricant because I can't pack a wheel bearing with it.

        This context of "buy a cheap can of spray" isn't a context that prevents the spray being a lubricant. Your context when you use it for a specific purpose may exclude lubrication - it might be a great salad dressing to spritz over tomatoes, but that doesn't mean someone using it to free a stuck bolt isn't using it to lubricate the seized metal on metal surfaces.

        Because it is not a suitable lubricant for your context doesn't mean it is never so. If I only use it for salad dressing I don't get to insist it isn't a water dispersant because I only use it differently.

        If this was a web site about 2-stroke outboards, it would be reasonable to insist it isn't a lubricant, but denying it can lubricate two surfaces because it isn't suitable in those contexts is weird.

        • You can use it to dress your salads, but we can still tell you it's not a salad dressing. How you use something doesn't change what it is.

  • Safe to use on electric scooters for squeaks and stuff? As in the suspension, between the moving parts and whatnot.

  • I've been racing dirt bikes for years, wd40 is all I've ever used on the chains. It provides minimal lubrication but it does provide some, most of all though it doesn't cause dirt and dust to stick all over your chain. The dirt is what causes most of the wear on a chain and sprockets and the minimal oil in wd is just enough lubrication. Obviously with dirt bikes we spray the chain before every ride so long life isn't a factor.

    • Dude, oh dude….the first time you spray WD-40 onto your chain is the first day your chain is far worse off. It will flush out the grease in the rollers, and that is the most important lube a chain has.

      I have (and still do) work directly with several chain and lubricant companies, I assure you that they all well used to reading comments like this that show end consumers abusing their product in blissful ignorance.

      Just because you do it, and have done it for decades doesn't make it right, it just makes it long term abuse.

      Waaaaaay back in the day when I opened up a new chain, the first thing I did was degrease it and re-lube it with my preferred lube, one drop per roller.
      I learnt over time that wasn't the best thing to do, and finally learnt that was in fact one of the dumbest things I could have done.
      The first time any solvent hits the chain, is the first day of it going downhill fast. Obviously you can't go around never cleaning your chain, but it's good to know that it will never be as well lubed as it is the day you open it with the thick grease that will end up having small kids and birds stuck to it.

      • I understand what you're saying but lived experience of 30 years riding motorbikes has proven to me dirt sticking to chains caused by sticky chain lubricants does far more damage than wd40 does. Also it does contain mineral oil so this not 100% none lubricating.

        Yes in lab conditions or on a road bike I fully understand your point, in mud and dust I disagree.

        This is an argument no one is convincing anyone on. I'm too old to change and you are too certain of your opinion backed by many in your industry. So I'll leave it at that.

        Actually one final thing for the people no doubt shaking there heads at me, yes I understand wd40 is not an ideal lubricant for 99% of applications.

        A QUESTION OF LUBRICATION
        Myth: WD-40 Multi-Use Product is not really a lubricant.

        Fact: While the “W-D” in WD-40 stands for Water Displacement, WD-40 Multi-Use Product is a unique, special blend of lubricants. The product’s formulation also contains anti-corrosion agents and ingredients for penetration, water displacement and soil removal.

  • I worked with a guy that sprayed his boat wheel bearings with WD40. He was pretty dumb.

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