Good price if you want a snapdragon device, prices seem to be pretty low
21 in stock at time of posting
Referrer and referee get $20 after referee's 1st purchase of $90+.
I do know konica minolta has support for ARM laptops. Can't say for other brands.
Yeah any printer that's Mopria compatible should be fine.
What's the issue with printer support on Windows ARM? Lack of drivers? Most printers these days would support network and IPP, and the drivers are no more than just configuration files.
Yeah it's usually cheaper GDI/USB printers that have problems. Also unique features like eco stapling or booklet finishing that have issues for corporate users.
The user. :)
I added a networked Fujifilm DocuPrint C3350 by just clicking on Add device. It found and installed the printer automatically.
I love my Snapdragon laptop, it's my daily driver now. Got a great deal Black Friday last year on a similarly specced IdeaPad.
Mate, Mind your words. I am using this model for the last 4 months and it is much better than intel. Battery holds for days and weight less and doing what I needed. I am an 25 years experienced IT professional, if it serve my purpose whats wrong with others. At Qualcomm it is the employee laptop. If you want to carry load of bricks on your shoulder go for intel brand. For anyone who do moderate gaming ( ARM supported games) daily activities like web surfing, word , excel, vscode for coding extra this is more than enough. If you are video editor youtube blogger then look something in apple.
Thanks for feedback. Good enough for Android /mobile development? Looking for a laptop to vibe code a flutter/android app 😁 not exactly kotlin Android app. Thanks. For the price, we can get the new macbook air tho.
Snapdragon was to bring cheap high power and low battery usage on the cheap and give Intel a black eye …. Hasn't happened where I work, does seem.pricey for refurb.
After using Intel for many, many years, I bought the Surface Laptop 7 last year. Snapdragon is absolute breath of fresh air - long battery life and it doesn't wake itself up randomly in my bag and heat up and drain the battery. It turns on instantly from sleep just like a phone. I'm very glad it came along, even if it was just to give Intel and AMD a kick up the arse.
Damn I need this deal but no idea about snapdragon CPU, would rather stick with intel or amd
Better decision, and its 90hz screen
It is ARM, it is not running the typical windows system.
What does it mean
Well what they mean is that 99.9% of Windows applications and hardware are coded for x86(Intel and AMD) and not ARM(Snapdragon). Snapdragon needs to run in emulation mode for these applications and hardware. This means that those applications and hardware can either fully function but slower due to emulation, partially function or not work at all. You are currently the beta tester. From personal experience if you are just using Office it's OK but as soon as you start trying to use bespoke software or hardware and legacy applications you are out of luck.
@shellshocked: Just to add another perspective from my personal experience so far with a Snapdragon Surface Pro 11 - my 4th Surface Pro.
Disclaimer - I'm not trying to play any games on this thing and given what I hear, gaming (at this point in time) instantly rules out Windows on ARM.
I had only ever had Intel devices and was unimpressed with a colleagues Surface Pro X, which was my first exposure to Windows on ARM.
I was definitely a skeptic, but I'm also somewhat of an early adopter.
That being said, I wanted a tablet for reading comics and chose to trial a Surface Pro 11 to fill both laptop and tablet.
I bought the cheapest new one I could find on eBay (due to being skeptical) - I figured I'd curse my son with it if it was no good haha.
I've become a total convert.
This thing is fast, quiet, cool and the battery life awesome.
I still use a Intel Surface Pro at work and that thing sounds like and produces the heat of a jet taking off during Teams calls - plus the battery doesn't get through a day of meetings. The 120hz screen is rarely consistently smooth.
Software - I've also been impressed with the amount of software that has ARM versions. The only non-ARM app I've had trouble with running is a Logitect firmware updater everything else has emulated fine with no decernable speed issues. Maybe a noticeable loss was Adobe Photoshop has an ARM version, but not Illustrator, you get the web version (they're trying to move that to the web anyway). Just looking in task manager now, I only have 5 x86 and 3 x64 apps running (in a list of ~200 running processes) - granted YMMV.
I'm still waiting to get tripped up running some obscured piece of software from 15 years ago, but it hasn't happened yet.
Everything thing I need to run for work (in technology consulting) has been fine too - granted YMMV.
Hardware - I've not personally had any issues with docks, devices, cables - granted YMMV.
Overall, given the state of Intel as a company and the world is increasingly more and mroe browser-based, I can't see why Windows on ARM wouldn't grow in popularity for all the above reasons.
My advice - catalog your software needs, check a site like this for compatibility https://windowsonarm.org/ and if it's all good, give it a crack, you might like it 🙂
@queron: My work requires Citrix. I heard there were early compatibility issues with ARM. Have they fixed this yet ? Currently using an Intel version of Surface Laptop, but keen to go ARM if Citrix is compatible
From personal experience if you are just using Office it's OK but as soon as you start trying to use bespoke software or hardware and legacy applications you are out of luck.
IMHO that is an overgeneralization. You make it sound like anything other than Office-type software will not work.
There are definitely niche programs and hardware that won't work, but it's probably less common for the target market than you imagine.
but as soon as you start trying to use bespoke software or hardware and legacy applications you are out of luck.
OK, so give us this enormous list of software products that have given you issues, then. Not these super-vague generalities.
as soon as you start trying to use bespoke software or hardware
LOL, obviously you don't buy an ARM Windows laptop for these two things.
For the other 99.9% of OzBargainers, the emulation stack is absolutely fine. Don't buy one if you need to run weird apps or weird hardware.
Made the switch a few months back. I've not had any comparability issues at all and damn, that battery life is amazing. OLED screen is sexy too..I have the IdealPad Slim 5, but imagine it's largely the same.
Ideapad5 is all metal body?
Yup, all metal. Very similar to the HP Elitebook.
Unfortunately had the opposite experience. Certain bespoke applications wouldn't work or were providing incorrect data in emulation. Had bugs where the initial application would load but would get error messages in certain parts. Also had issues with no driver being available for the printer.
I think if you are just using Office and aren't printing anything it's Ok, but anything else you need to exercise caution especially with hardware compatibility.
Yup. And games are touch and go. And no Fortnite on it too. Not yet anyway.
What is it with printing. I've connected to 4 different printers, HP, Samsung, Brother, and another HP. Some new some older, they all connect and work fine. For the Samsung for auto Windows 11 detect didn't find it, but on second pass with the "my printer is older" option it found it fine. Even the toner levels show up.
Has all the printer functionality been there? I have had issues with printers without ARM drivers not being able to use finishing units like Staple/Punch/Fold.
I don't have those features, but features of my printers are there, like colour options, duplex, eco, altitude, humidity options etc. Just works.
What's the best way to benchmark the Snapdragons against Intel and AMD CPUs? Last time I checked I couldn't find the Snapdragons on CPU benchmark for comparison.
Watch reviewer videos that benchmark popular applications. Cpu stats aren't as impactful.
CPU benchmark dot net can do comparison with all I think
Does Yoga mean it can turn 360°? The preview pictures don't show that… I'm so confused with Lenovo's naming scheme these days because Yoga was supposedly the 360° range and ThinkPads were top tier business range, but it seems like this is not the case anymore…
Welcome to Lenovo's idiotic naming scheme. They started using Yoga for anything premium. Now there is even a "Yoga 7" for premium laptops, and a "Yoga 9" for extra premium laptops.
This one is not 360, but does have a touchscreen. Look for "2 in 1" in the name if you want a 360 laptop.
For those who wish to look into Windows ARM, the refurbished IdeaPad Slim 5x is also on sale at $689.40 (SD X Plus X1P-42-100, 16GB, 512GB, almost sold out). Good BYOD laptop for highschoolers and it can't run Fortnite :)
If gou keep watching outlet you find the 32GB/1TB/OLED for the same or a little more.
lol, thats peak Asian dad, Scotty
'You like Facebook?, Why don't you face book and study, haiyah.
Been running my Snapdragon Lenovo for six months, best laptop I've owned (in 2+ decades of using them). Highly recommend this setup.
If people are asking things like "Will XXX work with this" you know they're not even trying to keep up or are just trolling for Big CPU.
Are these the comparable apple silicon windows cpu?
X Elite is comparable to an M4, a little faster multi core, a little slower single core. X Elite 2 is die out later this year.
the thing is apple made the wholesale switch to their silicon so its their way or no way and of course everything works
microsoft is hedging their bets and i think long term windows on arm is like windows RT or any of their non x86 experiments
BUT if it gives you a few years on your apps then all fine and good but i doubt microsoft is going this way
people trying to get their custom apps going and whatever…. i mean come on
Can anyone explain what refurbished models entail?
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can you setup a printer on these yet?