Neighbour Parking in Front of My House – Am I Overthinking This?

My neighbour recently bought a new car and has now started parking their work van directly in front of our house. They do have space in front of their own place, but he’s mentioned a couple of times that he doesn’t like parking there because of bird droppings from the tree.

They’re good Neighbours and we generally get along well. On our street, everyone kind of respects each other’s space, so this feels a bit out of the norm.

What bothers me is:

The van blocks our view when pulling out of the driveway.

We like to keep that spot free for guests.

There’s plenty of parking literally ~10m further up the street, in front of a side fence where nobody ever parks.

I completely understand that no one technically “owns” the street in front of their house, but it feels like an unspoken rule not to park directly out front if there’s easy alternative space nearby.

I know it shouldn’t bug me, but it does, and I’m wondering if it’s rude if I ask them to shift the van further up, or whether I should just leave it alone.

TL;DR:
Neighbour avoids parking in front of their house (bird droppings) and parks their work van in front of mine instead. It blocks my view and takes up the spot we usually keep for guests. There’s plenty of space just a few metres up the street. Would it be rude to ask them to park there instead, or should I let it go?

Comments

  • +85

    Park your own vehicle in that spot for a few weeks and they may get the hint. Otherwise, it's public land and free-for-all really.

      • +7

        I think you misunderstand 'that spot'

        • +1

          The spot = in front of OP's House

      • -1

        Then your car will get the bird droppings!

        Reading is hard….

    • I am guessing they neighbour with the van gets home before op, otherwise op would park there.
      I agree with you, I have done this but I had a vehicle I did not use much and left it in front of the house for weeks unmoved, they will get used to parking somewhere else, I call it training.

    • +1

      Public spaces are for anyone.

      I've never understood how anyone comes to the conclusion they have any personal control over a public parking space.

      • I agree. When you live in say Surry Hills, you are lucky to park anywhere near your house.
        But out in the suburbs, people would like to park near their house, maybe to keep an eye on it. Depends on the street, the op sounds like he lives in a quiet un-busy street with plenty of parking. They sound lucky that the neighbours don't have 4-5 cars in their household or live near a smash repairs.
        But I was just saying if your park something infront of your house long as it takes, the new neighbour will settle in park somewhere else as normal.

  • +31

    public land, he is just as entitled to that spot as you are. first come best dressed.

    if its not him, then someone else will take it… so only way is to park your own car there before anyone else does.

    • +6

      public land, he is just as entitled to that spot as you are. first come best dressed.

      True, but that is the unfriendly bogan way of thinking.

      Personally, seeing as I have a good relationship with my neighbours, I would feel awkward parking permanently in front of their house, blocking the view from their house, making it harder/less safe for them to back out of their driveway, taking up a space their friend/family could use when visiting, while there is a free spot out directly in from of my own house—all to save a few bird poos on my car roof (problem easily solved by trimming the tree, or cleaning the car once a week with a hose).

      if its not him, then someone else will take it… so only way is to park your own car there before anyone else does.

      Depends how busy the street is. OP said there are plenty of free parking spots 10 meters away, which is literally one house away.

      • +18

        "True, but that is the unfriendly bogan way of thinking"

        Im pretty sure the bogan way of thinking is that the spot infront of their house "belongs" to them…

    • +5

      Correct, we should never be considerate to others unless there's a law forcing us to be so. This is how to create a great society.

      • -1

        Clearly we do; that's how the covid lockdowns went.

  • +15

    I’m wondering if it’s rude if I ask them to shift the van further up

    you're free to ask, but they're also free to say no

  • +43

    We like to keep that spot free for guests.

    Lol

    • +3

      They have free and empty off street parking in front of their house? What affluent suburb is this?

      • -2

        What is it? They want free parking spaces for friends or people parking there blocks their view.
        Another ridiculous Ozbargain forum post as usual - good for a laugh while I'm stuck at home with COVID though 😂

  • +8

    Buy a second car and park it in the street?

    • put an orange cone on the street - as seen in certain 'rich' suburbs.

  • +4

    Clearly you need more Guests (with a Car) on a 24/7 basis.

    Just AirBNB a Room out and highlight free on-street parking.

  • +5

    The best thing to do is to buy an old banger from allbids (you look like your in ACT), something on the smaller side, and park it there when he heads out to work. Don't move it, ever.

    • +5

      Ahhh, the Reddit solution to this PrObLeM.

    • +2

      Would block op’s view tho lol

      • +1

        A car would block less than a van…

    • +1

      They'd have to move it when they have guests. Which sounds like something that happens a lot 🤨

      • maybe the guests can park 10 metres up the street there are apparently lots of spaces

    • +2

      This is what a one neighbour did to another neighbour in my street, now they have to stare at their own shit box all day instead and they are proud of their win.

  • +1

    Side fence implies probably a corner block and hence an intersection. Not legal to park within 10m so it may not be legal to park where you're suggesting.

    Anyway, you're already aware that they're allowed to park there. Feel free to talk to them about it but they have no obligation to park elsewhere. I think the answer is obvious. If they're worried about bird droppings then you need to give them a bigger issue to discourage them parking there. I think you know what needs to be done….

    • +6

      I think you know what needs to be done….

      Are you suggesting they plant a huge tree there, install a couple of bird feeders in it, and buy some pigeons?

      • Pigeons are too cleanly, seagulls breed faster and have more sloppy excrement :P

      • I'm thinking along the lines of some droppings larger than a bird. Quicker than planting a tree or cheaper than planting an established one but maybe OP isn't limber enough to get onto the roof of the van and perch over the windscreen so a tree would also work.

      • Needs to be some large crappy fruit tree, to attract possums and bats.

  • +2

    How about having an honest conversation with your neighbor & explain your viewpoint.

    • +5

      Both neighbours reasons are petty…. One doesn't want poop on their van, another wants it for their guests……

      Park wherever. If OP doesn't like it, do what others suggested, park another vehicle there.

  • -1

    Get a sign made up
    “Reserved parking”

    • +6

      I specifically park in those spots that are illegally marked by residents and I love it

      • +6

        Same
        I’ve seen ones which are “parking reserved for residents of 69 king street” as well

        • +1

          Nice

  • +11

    We like to keep that spot free for guests.

    not your spot. Not your road. First come first serve.

  • +7

    No one technically LEGALLY “owns” the street in front of their house, it's council or state owned, unless it's a caravan park or private retirement village.

    There is NO unspoken rule not to park directly out front if there’s easy alternative space nearby.

      • +8

        How would you like to live next to a loud neighbor who has lots of new people pulling in and out every day, always eating stinky food, playing loud music, barking dogs, drunken arguments every night?

        People who need laws rather than etiquette to not be dunces are the problem. Etiquette is obviously subjective - if there's an issue then it first deserves communication, not some immediate appeal to authority.

        • -8

          How ironic that you quote a bunch of things that are legally actionable. Loud music, barking dogs and drunken arguments can all be reported to council or police.

          And you seem to miss my point. If someone is parking in front of your house it does not warrant communication because they are doing nothing wrong. You have zero right to ask them to not park there. All you can do is park there yourself.

          • +3

            @lunchbox99:

            can all be reported to council

            There's plenty there that breaks etiquette well before it becomes illegal.

            And no I'm not missing your point. John parking in front of Dave's place is not breaking the law, but it may be offending Dave's idea of etiquette. If John is informed and doesn't care then that gives Dave reason to potentially less value the etiquette John might think he deserves. This poorly managed conflict is the beginning of trouble.

            I.e. - different things may piss off different people - let's try not to piss each other off.

          • +5

            @lunchbox99: Im legally entitled to play loud music (below the legal limit) on my outdoor speakers up until "xx"pm every night and the neighbours cant do a damned thing about it.

            The reason I dont do it is I am not a c@nt. Im considerate of my neighbours

        • And of you have gone past etiquette and don't agree with the law, then become a sovereign citizen.

      • +1

        Another common one is people thinking you can't or shouldn't drive in the right lane when the limit is under 90kph.

        I think you mean 80 Kilometres per hour? I think all states implement this Australia Road Rule consistently?

        https://classic.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/sa/consol_reg/arr210…

        130(1)(a) and (b)

        While you stated it in the inverse, the law applies to speed over 80kmph. In theory you could drive in the right lane iif the speed limit is up to and including 80kmph. Also there must not be any signs advising you to keep left unless overtaking.

        • +3

          the law applies to speed over 80kmph

          Over being the key word.

        • Yes I understand the law. The next speed limit above 80 is 90. Never seen anything in between 80 and 90 anywhere in Australia. So over 80 practically means 90. Similarly under 90 speed limit means 80.

          So if the speed limit is under 90 (ie 80) then it's allowed. If it's over 80 (ie 90) it's not allowed.

          And it doesn't refer to your speed… it refers to the posted speed limit since you love playing semantics.

          • @lunchbox99:

            it refers to the posted speed limit since you love playing semantics.

            yes, as I said in my post above…

            if the speed limit is up to and including 80kmph. Also there must not be any signs advising you to keep left unless overtaking.

      • Another common one is people thinking you can't or shouldn't drive in the right lane when the limit is under 90kph.

        So the “keep left unless overtaking when the speed limit is above 80” is a made up thing?

    • -1

      There is NO unspoken rule not to park directly out front if there’s easy alternative space nearby.

      Yes there is.

      • This unspoken rule not to park directly out front if there’s easy alternative space nearby, is it in the room with us now?

        • No, it’s parked in front of OP’s house.

  • +6

    They’re good Neighbours and we generally get along well.

    Have a good think. Do you really want to change this ?

    I am in a similar position.

    The neighbour behind me is in battle axe block with 3 kids, and 2 cars for the parents. They park 3 cars in front of mine nearly 24/7. The house next door to me which was 1 house has become 4 houses with 10 cars. When they have friends over (nearly every Friday and Saturday) it blocks up the whole street.

    But I just put it aside as it’s not worth the drama of dealing with neighbours from hell.

    • +1

      Do you really want to change this ?

      The neighbour doesn’t seem to really care…

  • +3

    Get/borrow a trailer and park there - it's low and won't block your view and conditions the neighbour.

  • +2

    You dont own the street in front of your house and it is for public parking unless otherwise signposted. They can park there if it is legal to do so… But then you are also free to go out and buy your own van and park it in front of his house on the street.

    • +3

      And get poo all over it?

      • That might upset the neighbour if they have to see it every day.

    • well thanks for the input but the OP already stated he knew that.

      • -1

        So, for all the other 30 people that replied something similar above me, you thought that my comment was the the one that needed to be singled out?

        Good to know. Thanks for the feedback, I will take it onboard and make appropriate adjustments in future.

        • +1

          Well another reason why your comment was unnecessary. Thanks for pointing that out.

  • You could plant the same tree out the front of you place?

    You could also be kind to yourself. It’s ok to be upset about this situation.

    • +3

      I’m not so sure OP wanted a solution now… I think they just wanted to be angry.

    • -1

      It’s ok to be upset about this situation.

      Yeah, nah.

  • +1

    If you are on good terms, the best approach is to talk to them about your sight lines being obstructed by the van. Talking about oarking for guests is only going to make them park there more.

    As othwrs have said, ultimately its public parking for anyone.

    • Yep talk to them about line of sight. And if they continue to park there, then theyve made thier intentions clear and you can respond with other means….

  • Just park all your cars in front of his place and leave all the space in front of your place for him, don't be so entitled!

  • +8

    Put a bit of bird seed on the roof van each night so it gets bird poo on it regardless of where it's parked. They might eventually give up and park it under the tree

  • +6

    If you regularly take a shit on their van, they’ll understand that poop can come on the van wherever they’re parked.
    Bird or human

    • +2

      Just tank some Guzman Gomez and 3L of milk beforehand

  • +2

    completely understand that no one technically “owns” the street

    Yet here we all are. FFS.

  • I'm just having a wild guess here, but I suspect your neighbour isn't telepathic.

    Perhaps try asking them if they could park the van in another spot due to it being large and blocking your visibility when you pull out of your driveway.

    • +1

      Perhaps try asking them if they could park the van in another spot due to it being large and blocking your visibility when you pull out of your driveway.

      This is probably the best way. Rather than saying 'for guests'.

  • +1

    Don't ask him to do anything. Gently and explain your situation. if they don't suggest moving themselves or have problem with it then you thought wrong about being good neighbours and generally getting along and you might want to think about moving.

    • +3

      yeah, except mention how it blocks their view when leaving the property, not the 'need it for guests'

      Let's hope the neighbour isn't on ozbargain ;)

      • -1

        OP should consider a place with a bigger driveway for the guests when OP moves

      • I was about to post this very point.

        Very politely point out that it is blocking your view and makes it unsafe for you when you back out of your driveway. You'll find out very shortly after that what kind of a neighbour he really is.

        If he continues to park there, put something in that spot that says F off, you're not parking here anymore.

  • -4

    Offer to buy him a cover for his van if he can leave it out the front of his house

    • -1

      A cover from Dollar General? Nobody wants the hassle of dealing with a cover, especially for a van. Can you imagine how huge and annoying it would be? What do you do with the cover when it's not on the van? You have to fold it up and store it somewhere. What about the bird poo on the cover? Clean it off or just let it smear everywhere when you put the cover away? Worst suggestion ever.

  • +8

    The decent thing to do is park your own vehicle in front of your own property. It takes a real prick to have the gall to say Im not going to park in front of my place because I get bird shit on my car, so Im going to park in front of yours.

    There is a difference between what is legal and the right thing to do, especially when it comes to living in suburbia. Be considerate.

    • +4

      Yeah we had this once with a neighbour. Their son had a huge tradie truck and his mother didn't like it parked outside her house as she didn't like it when she backed out.

      So he parked it next to our driveway; in fact it encroached onto our driveway. People only care about themselves.

      Thankfully the son moved out of home.

    • +2

      I think you'll find most people are on the side of "do whatever you can get away with and f anyone who doesn't like it"

    • To nail up a polite request to the nearby tree … right?

      Or is this a scorched earth ‘if I can’t have it no one can’ strat?

  • -4

    They’re good Neighbours and we generally get along well.

    Then WTF is your problem? Just ask him nicely if he would not mind parking in the other spot.

    Worst case, he makes some excuse as to why that does not work, and you say "ok then, no worries".
    Then buy a licensed trailer to park in front.

    Am I Overthinking This?

    Is the pope catholic?

  • You could just park your own car in front of your house and reserve your private parking spot for your guests. You don't have to back out of your driveway and you treat your guests like VIPs with private parking. Win-win.

    • Who would want to park on the road when they have a driveway or garage. I’m not overly keen to get my car flogged just to reserve a public bit of land.

  • +5

    Unfortunately the only option is to sell up and move.

    • +1

      What happened to bikies?

  • +4

    Why do people think they own the road infront of their house lmao

    • +6

      I think some people have the old fashioned opinion that we should be nice and considerate to others to make a better society. It's outdated I know, in this dog eat dog world.

    • Most people know better than to park in front of a neighbour’s house when there’s space in front of their own.

  • +1

    I'm with you OP. I know it's allowed but it shits me especially when it's not really necessary. Doesn't bother me as much when the road is wide enough, but with the suburban roads now being as narrow as they can get away with its a PITA.

    Neighbour across the street used to park opposite my driveway (which was next door to their own place, in front of their neighbour). Made it pain to back out.
    Further up the street there is car parked on the street all the time, what shits me about that one is that literally across the street they have off street bays to park in.

    If you get on well with your neighbour, be up front about it. If not, check your councils parking rules. In ours, you can't park on the street for longer than 24 hours. Commercial vehicles can't park longer than 3 hours and not at all between 6pm and 7am.

    Otherwise there's this (starting from 3:50)

    • -1

      Commercial vehicles can't park longer than 3 hours and not at all between 6pm and 7am.

      We had this same rule but the council was useless as the lazy f#ckers don't work during these hours so did nothing.

  • Its common in my area to park out the front of neighbours houses when you know the parks on the street are rarely used by them.. i.e they have off street parking, garages etc.

    Hence the only way to beat this is to start parking a car, trailer or caravan out the front of your house.

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