I currently have an android phone which allows you to add a Myki card to the wallet, no card fee minimum top up $10.
My trip in the morning is free due to early bird travel (touch off before 7:15am). I only pay for the return trip, 2 hour full fare fare $5.50.
The system allows your Myki Balance to go negative and you can delete the card and add a new card which won't carry the negative balance over.
What's the best possible method to maximise the negative balance loophole?
Myki only work on Melbs so it is a only Melbs thing.
Sydney still using Opal card in 2025.
Lol, Opal and Apple Pay in 2025. Meanwhile, melbs just have Myki to pay. No wonder, when I was at Melbourne. People just literally consider the whole network as “free zone”.. very rare someone is actually paying. Yeah… Melbourne winning all the crimes. 😆😆
Brisbane uses Go Card and you can also pay via Apple/Android Pay and credit/debit cards. I still opt to use the Go card, it’s a bit quicker to read when tapping on/off. The other options are very convenient for tourists though
@FireRunner: Same reason why I still use a physical Opal card (and Go card); less chances of default fares
Opal is basically the same as MyKi.
I don't understand some people - just dumb trolls. Wish they'd just be banned from this site as they add nothing of value.
Tapping on starts a 2 hour pass, and some of us have weekly/monthly passes. TLDR; anyone could still have a valid ticket even if you don't see them use a card at all.
I have an annual pass and I never tap on to avoid tracking unless I need to go through barriers, ticket inspectors just grunt and move on to the next person when they check me.
Top up to $11 not $10. This is assuming you can still swipe if the balance is zero, if not top up $11.01.
And then add a new card and rinse and repeat.
This means every third trip home is "free" or close enough.
Can't top up in decimals.
Top up $12 - third 2 hour full fare runs into the negative - delete the card.
Rinse & repeat.
Hahaha good find… Obviously they picked up on the loophole!
“Per phone” hmm
One grub reported this for illegal/banned despite being neither.
What kind of brown nose bootlicker do you have to be to do that?
Catch the bus, no one ever taps on.
There is no loop hole, as a ticket inspector that sees a negative balance will fine you as though you have no ticket. Even though you’re tapped on.
Yes Ive seen people asked to get off and top up.
But leniency is there for people with minor negative balances. Someone with almost a full ticket in negative balance would be pretty suss.
Probability you might end up ahead. But be prepared for major inconveniences.
its also too cumbersome / small to be worth the time to do I would have thought?
It's all about the thrill of gaming the system and saving a little bit of money using your spare time.
Fare evading is more efficient at this point (I'm not condoning it), because you're essentially doing that anyway..
I know they're very frequent on trams, but how common is it for ticket inspectors on trains?
Asking for a friend of course.
They're usually at stations, but do occasionally travel through the train in packs. They'll show up when you least expect it, meaning you'd need to keep a constant lookout for them. I find it easier just to pay the fare.
Fredfloresjr on 10/09/2025 - 06:56 Comment score below threshold.
