I've been looking for cheap 16TB drives for a while as HDD prices seems to be going up recently. Not sure about the quality of these drives compared to WD and Seagate. I bought 2x seagate and 2x WD drives from East Digital before and they are still working well. These seems to be the cheapest 16TB drives for sale at the moment. There is a Seagate Exos 16tb drive for $310. https://east-digital.myshopify.com/products/seagate-st16000n…
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Get your act together son.
Not bad. Had a look and seems like the WD ultrastar gone up in price a lot since got them few months ago.
Bought the same for a data drive about a month ago same price, 35k hrs
It had 35k hours already? 4 years of spinning time?
Correct, so expect similar
As in device operational time so far is 35K when sold ?
I'm surprised they didn't clear the SMART data first.
Not very SMART of them
But why? everyone knows they are used as they are advertised as such, to hide that fact would reduce credibility…
They do that on the refurbs not the pulls I believe.
Might be worth stating these are used in the title.
That means nothing to most people.
Most people wouldn't need these. If you need it, you know what it means.
@Ooops: It's lowest denominator.
The nominator is the highest part.
If you're going to be an absolute prick and treat others like they're idiots, try not to show your own intelligence too much in doing so 💜
Yes these would be server used drives maybe even ex-mining drives. With potentially tens of thousands of hours of operational use on it. That's definitely not "near new" unlike what they claim. No used drive pulled from a server is "near new". Is it worth the price.
Yes as i said there's no way that these drives are in near new condition.
@hollykryten: Damn right. My 3 year old 16TB Exos drives have about 47TB written and 470TB read. These have another year on top of those, and I'd hardly call myself a power user.
"Cosmetically"
Server pulls = heavily used
Don’t get me wrong… these are great drives. But they will have had a lot of operational use and are no longer economically viable.
Put HDD USED not Pulls, nobody know what this means.
You knew ??? and I know. so there's at least two of us. and the OP. see it's growing all the time… And anyone scanning these comments before buying - as everyone does… will also now know the correct industry terminology
But yes, the title could easily have BOTH in the description. The technical term for those of us where the precise nature of "used" matters. And the common term for less technical people who need to be aware that these are not NEW drives.
These are my go-to drives new — they’re quiet, run cool (at least compared to my WD Red Pros), and touch wood have been reliable. Anecdotally, these are an excellent drive. They’re currently $433.21 AUD on Amazon AU (sold directly by Amazon, shipping from the UK, so hopefully any returns would be straightforward). Whether being brand new is worth the extra $156 really depends on your perspective.
These are the hacked drives yeah?
I think there was a thread around here talking about it.
17.31 $/TB, pretty good. Used drives but if they're in a RAID array with redundancy, that should matter less
I got a 24tb from umart for $500($450 after gift card redemption) $18.75 seems far batter as the size+new
Seagate BarrCuda? Not good for NAS
HAMR drive? Not good for NAS usage.
Recently got a couple of 24 TB Seagate exos. They said they're not meant for 24/7 use but then exos are the enterprise version of the product line so I don't know.
Who said? as Seagate website indicates they are fine for enterprise 24x7
RELIABLE: Enjoy extended reliability with 2.5 M-hour MTBF and 5-year limited warranty.
@turtlesinmypants: The ad mentioned East Digital themselves stated it, and comments. I understand these are their enterprise grade so should be able to handle it though so I pulled the trigger.
Both Factory Refurbished (FR) and Pulls are used drives.
The difference is that refurbished units, at least in theory, have had a thorough going over and test; pulled units have been pulled from a server, dusted over, given a quick power on test and stuffed in a bag.
Many people have bought pulls that have had data still on them. If a FR drive still has data on it, it's not really factory refurbished.
Either way, the warranty will tell you a lot about the seller's confidence: in this case, East Digital pulls will have 1 year, and their FRs seem to have 3 years.
I would get these instead assuming they come back down to the ~$300 mark
https://au.camelcamelcamel.com/product/B09HVGDBYB
Not sure about this particular model, but I've had really short life spans from Toshiba drives in a NAS.
Had 4 new drives fail within 3 years with the older Seagate and WD drives next to them being fine.
From my experience, 35k hours is beyond what average home drives can last (green-blue, Exos, for example) and starts being risky for enterprise that die more often from 35k to 50k, but still usually last until 50k and more. Still, I wouldn't put here any important data. The perfect usecase IMHO is to use it as a backup drive that you attach once a month for a few hours. Only in this way it definitely will last for years.
It's like buying Camry with 200k, it should last way more, but soon with issues.
If you are not afraid of SAS headache with controllers and brand compatibility, buying used disk shelf or single SAS drives from them will be cheaper. There's enough on Ebay.
buying used disk shelf or single SAS drives from them will be cheaper. There's enough on Ebay
From a reputable seller? With free shipping? At less than $17/Tb? Dealing with SAS also makes this a rather unappealing option, and would need to be discounted more.
I doubt it. Unless you can prove me wrong with a link…?
Check auctions, not buy it now. Yes, from a reputable seller, and less than $17/Tb including or free shipping. No links as its auctions with prices after closing.
So you've given us no link, no seller listings, no names, no proof.
And if they're auction items, no warranty or return options either.
Got some snake oil for me as well?
@Switchblade88: If you need links for future prices ask Nostradamus, good luck with that. There are return options and warranty (but short) on auctions too, its up to you where to bid.
I don't owe you anything, but you speak like I am. My hour costs $50 and I'll find some good auctions for you.
I don't owe you anything
You said you had a cheaper deal, and I called you out on it as rubbish.
Backup your claims with links next time.
@Switchblade88: I didn't said it (don't lie anymore, please), but yes, I had such a bargain and got 2 4Tb drives for about $50 both + delivery. I can give screenshots of that, but it's not gonna help anyone as no one guarantees that.
If you require something, be ready to pay for it, otherwise you may keep your requirements to yourself.
totally agree with you, its like 5 years of uptime.
very risky,
there's a reason seller gives only 1 year warranty.
I bought 3 18TBs Exo's from East digital about 2 or 3 years ago there're running fine so far. Using them in a raid 5 array just in case.
What's the reasoning behind people spending this much eddies on used hdds? I mean 16TB is not small amount of data to recover either.
Linux ISOs and all sorts of homelab stuff I guess. I’ve already had like 15x 18TB but will be buying more when prices are more reasonable, like back in the group buy days.
Hmm… So basically the stuff that be conveniently reinstated by sailing the high seas.
15x 18TB
😱
Nah. You will need redundancy and backup, so practical usage is like 50-60% of that only, or 40% even as you want some free space as well.
Check out r/datahoarder and you’ll see this is just like beginner level.
Usually these are high end enterprise drive which probably have a long life. Having said that, I wouldn’t be paying $300 for a drive with four years of use - enterprise or not!
Having said that, I wouldn’t be paying $300 for a drive with four years of use - enterprise or not!
That’s what am thinking too for the price you pay
Can you mix 2x Exos and 2x Toshiba drives in a NAS?
Or is it better to have 4 of the same?
Is this drive CMR?
If you use RAID, you get the speed of the slowest. If speed doesn't matter, or speed of the slowest is sufficient, you may not worry about it. From my experience, In RAID 1 I had same 7200 drives and speeds were fine. I suspected one in upcoming issue and replaced with a 7200 Blue having similar specs on paper. In reality I got writing speed decreased to half of what I had with both the same drives.
You can mix drives but be aware that the size is not always identical. You might want to undersize your partition slightly to make sure it can be recovered.
Yep, ideal is to have same model and size drives in normal NAS. It will work though but bottle neck to the slowest drive. I got UNRAID on my NAS and can mix and match. Mainly media (PLEX) so doesn't matter much. Got a 2X 18TB (one as parity) 1 16 and 1 14tb WD HC550/530 drives in it that I got from these guys. Working fine. Also got a 1tb NVME as cache.
Got an old QNAP with 4x4tb for main backup. The main Nas is an AOOSTAR WTR pro that keeps popping up here on ozbargain.
Used
16TB
Toshiba
😱😳😰
These are enterprise drives. Much different than the ones you normally put in your computer. These are made to run 24/7 and much more reliable than other normal drives. Made for 550 TB/year, normal are 55.
I would not wish anyone to be in a situation where the drive fails and has to go through the painful process of recovering one giant lump of 16TB….just the thought of it gives me goosebumps.
(I went through that pain on a mere newish 2TB! - this is x8 😱)
Convo with the IT:
“Wait what? Its 16TB! AND a used drive?! And Toshiba? Oh mate good luck!”
Raid rebuilds on large drives always takes forever. Just hope you don't have multiple raid failure rip.
@Clear: Took me day and half to rebuild my parity drive when I put a 18 in there. At least know if s#$t happens i can get it back. Most crucial backup i got an old qnap for and off site drive i swap over once every few months. Mostly family photos and videos. Don't want to rely on cloud.
situation where the drive fails and has to go through the painful process of recovering one giant lump of 16TB
Huh ?
I've had a 16TB drive fail - I bought a new drive the next day, and restored a backup to it. It wasn't painful at all, and I was only without my data for about 48 hours.
If drive fails are painful, you're doing something very wrong!!
If drive fails are painful, you're doing something very wrong!!
Yes, because to you pain is all pleasurable, I see.
Seems you know exactly what pleasure is and whatever that went through
Which would be more reliable?
Factory Recertified or Used?
FR has 3YR EastDigital Warranty? While Used has 1YR EastDigital Warranty?
Not sure about the quality of these drives compared to WD and Seagate.
Anything is better than Seagate
Never had a Seagate drive die personally. WD on the other hand, a few
Thanks OP
but be careful with server pulls
clean environment should arleady been a given in a server deployment enrivornment
issue is utilisation and intensity in the HDD's former deployment, big buyer beware consideration point
Would Factory Recertified be better?
Been using Seagate 8TB and 16TB for many years with no issues. No sure if I should try these Toshiba ones….
Anyone using these in an nvr?
16T exo here from that seller, no issue so far 2 year in. daily use
![[Used] Toshiba MG08ACA16TE 16TB 512MB 7200RPM 6Gb/s 3.5 SATA Internal Hard Drive $277 @ East DIgital](https://files.ozbargain.com.au/n/66/924966.jpg?h=40f0cf0f)
Price in title please