Help! Advice Needed! Cupping and Gua Sha on Back - Health Related

OrangeCounty on 24/09/2025 - 17:57
Last edited 24/09/2025 - 18:59

Hi all,

My question is, how can I get better without cupping?

For context, I get sick from windy days, where I tend to not be able to sleep.

All my life, whenever I can't sleep for a few days, body aches or over heating in bed I know I'm sick. Thats the indication I'm not well. Then, I would get cupping done to my back about 28 cups to 36 cups, and I sleep like a baby for the next month or so. Same with Gua Sha on my back, its either one or the other which is applied.

I've tried over the years to not do it and just wait it out if I can't sleep, but that means a whole week of sleep depravation. I envy those people who wake up at 6am, shorts and a shirt and run around the neighbourhood. I've tried to tell myself I can do it too! But when I do, a few days later it hits me and I can't sleep and overheat in bed at times.

The GP says.. its all in your mind. You just need to go out in the wind or windy days more and more without a jacket on and you'll be like everyone else with a better tolerance and immune system to be like those who can run in the wind or cold days. But I generally get sick after and don't really adjust well even with persistence.

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  • El cheepo on 24/09/2025 - 18:02
    +3

    What is the question?

    • OrangeCounty on 24/09/2025 - 18:13

      Updated :)

      • El cheepo on 24/09/2025 - 19:46

        i think you answered it well your self already.

        how can I get better without cupping?

        Answer from your GP:

        go out in the wind or windy days more and more without a jacket on and you'll be like everyone else with a better tolerance and immune system to be like those who can run in the wind or cold days.

        I know it’s a common concern in many asian cultures to worry about the wind, but it really is just a mental tolerance thing.

        The more you do it, the more you will condition yourself to handle it better.

        Don’t try to copy others you have seen by doing the exact same thing. Eg:

        wake up at 6am, shorts and a shirt and run around the neighbourhood

        You could do similar, but wear light pants and a light/thin jumper/jacket and work your way up to the tolerances needed to be able to do that.

        But FWIW.
        Cupping is great.
        刮痧 is useless…
        Purely my opinion though 😂

        • ATTS on 26/09/2025 - 15:19

          Op do u find gua sha little painful.

          Would antibiotics help btw?

  • mskeggs on 24/09/2025 - 18:03
    +1

    I mean, your GP isn't wrong, but if it works for you and you don't mind it, what is the question?

  • 87percent on 24/09/2025 - 18:11

    You want a cupping massage. Where they use the cups to massage your back.

  • Jimothy Wongingtons on 24/09/2025 - 18:15
    +2

    sick from windy days

    Are you Chinese/ Cantonese ?

    I could get sick with COVID and my mum would say it’s because I didn’t wear a jacket when she told me too before going outside

    • OrangeCounty on 24/09/2025 - 18:20
      -2

      I'm Chinese yes, but I get sick from the wind! I put a jacket on most of the time too! But I get the cultural thing, where its all across asia.

      • netjock on 24/09/2025 - 19:45

        You need a good Chinese herbal medicine doctor if cupping and gua sha doesn't sort you out. Herbal plus some diet adjustment is required. Depends on your body composition (hot / cold) and your diet.

        Got lots of Chinese doctor as family friends. Some are good in herbal. Some are good at acupuncture. Sometimes they all have different opinions but one will fix you 80% of the way and the other will tell you something that will get you o 100%. It is strange but that is how it goes.

    • Muppet Detector on 25/09/2025 - 00:56

      But did you have your shoes and socks on?

      Hahaha, that cracked me up.

      Your mum sounds like a sweetheart, God love her.

  • randomusername2017 on 24/09/2025 - 18:38

    need to expose yourself more

    Aren't there laws against that 🤔

  • tenpercent on 24/09/2025 - 19:29
    +1

    how can I get better without cupping?

    Have you fondled with the idea that it's just psycosomatic and the cupping is only a placebo?

  • TheRealCher on 24/09/2025 - 19:55

    What is wrong with cupping if it works well for you?
    Many people are sensitive… neurologically, culturally etc we have reasons and for you, it's entirely possible that exposure to wind works in a way that makes you sick. It doesn't mean you're broken or bad.
    If you have found a way to deal with it (cupping, for instance) that works well and can be maintained and is sustainable (private health provides a rebate, I am guessing, when used as part of remedial massage), then you are a long way ahead of many others.

    If, on the other hand, this is really worrying you, you could always work with a counsellor on exposure therapy where gradually you work through your thinking patterns and the anxiety associated with this.

  • AustriaBargain on 25/09/2025 - 00:43
    -1

    Cupping sounds like something a doctor or a bra does.

    • Muppet Detector on 25/09/2025 - 01:06
      +2

      Apparently two girls use one cup, but I'm pretty sure that it was rude so I wasn't prepared to google exactly what it was.

  • Alley Cat on 25/09/2025 - 11:02
    +1

    When you cup/guasha, the technique likely has cleared this point and other bladder points alone the governing channel to make the energy/qi move, and it becomes less congested. You then go and catch a bit more wind, a natural phenomenon which has an underlying energy/qi that your body cannot handle very well for whatever reason, it freezes the point and slowly the channel gets blocked again. That's why the therapy works but only for a while.

    • kraigg on 26/09/2025 - 07:34

      I do gua sha and/or cupping on this exact pressure point in the rhomboid area. It works as a precaution against general illnesses, like colds, malaise, circulation issues, headaches, for me. It's like a tune-up for my body, which I do once a week or fortnight, takes 5 minutes.

      • Alley Cat on 26/09/2025 - 09:03
        +1

        I'm glad it works for you. That point clears away wind energy/pathogenic factor, so it doesn't enter, depending on how it's blocked, you may need to move a few others for the symptoms you have described.

        The issue with guasha/cupping is the length of time per treatment. Needles address this issue, but does nothing to help with the frequency of treatments - you can't needle the same point every day, not to mention half-assed practitioners missing the point and cause fear. To make the effect 'permanent', the point/channels actually require much longer durations and frequency. For context, I have treated my k11 against a few points on cv for 120 hours in order to open the thrusting channel. It simply cannot be done with instruments because I would be dead.

  • Kongzi on 25/09/2025 - 11:32

    My prescription is some concrete

  • oooooooo ahhhhhhh on 25/09/2025 - 13:35

    I can't believe this isn't a troll post.

  • Yummy on 25/09/2025 - 15:07

    cupping

    I'll just use a vacuum.

  • ihbh on 25/09/2025 - 21:07

    Cupping might have worked for you and where you come from, but it's regarded as pseudoscience in the West (e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cupping_therapy).

    Regardless, why don't you trying going out say at 10am when it's warmish, depending on where you are, and gradually move it forward, obviously if you do it now, it's getting warmer and warmer, to see how you go.

    When I was a child, I was more indoors due to my parents interests/habits. As I got older I went skiing, stayed outdoors in pouring rain for hours, camped when the morning temperature was < 0C, etc. It was gradual, but I didn't get sick and actually became more resilient.

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