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i5 Quad Core Gaming PC @ 3.8GHz, 8GB, 120GB SSD + 500GB HDD, 3GB Graphics, $1078 + Shipping

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i5 Quad Core Gaming PC @ 3.8GHz, 8GB, 120GB SSD + 500GB HDD, 3GB Graphics, $1078 + Shipping
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Chivalry on 31/01/2013 - 13:01 visiontech.com.au (435 clicks)
Last edited 31/01/2013 - 13:12

Hi Guys, the last vision tech gaming pc deal got a lot of great comments and feedback, and they've put together this machine based on that, which I think is pretty good. I'd like to hear what the community thinks.

CPU Intel i5 3570 Quad Core @ 3.8GHz Turbo - w/ Z77M-D3H Motherboard
RAM 8GB DDR3 RAM (1x 8GB @ 1600MHz - Corsair)
Hard Drive 120GB Kingston SSD (PRIMARY) + 500GB WD HDD (SECONDARY)
Graphics 3GB Dedicated Graphics ATI HD7950
Communication 10/100/1000 LAN
Optical Drive Dual Layer DVD Burner
Outputs HDMI, DVI, VGA
Devices USB 3.0, USB 2.0
PSU 1200W Modular Gaming PSU
Operating System NOT INCLUDED
Warranty 1 Year Vision Tech RTB Warranty

Personally I dont understand the need for 1200w PSU, and would ask for a downgrade to 650/850 max, and also i'd ask for the RAM to be 2 x 4gb instead to best utilize the dual channel memory architecture. Hopefully vision tech rep will come and answer some questions

From their other post:
For more information, questions or queries
Call Us (02)8724-3350
Email Us [email protected]
Browse Online www.visiontech.com.au
Visit Us In Store U9, 12-18 Fairfield St, Fairfield East, NSW, 2165
NEW Gosford Branch - OPENING SOON Shop 6, 112 Erina St,Gosford NSW 2250 (Next door to 2 Ware St, Gosford)

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  • Shaw on 31/01/2013 - 13:02
    +6

    1200W psu, holy crap, why?

    • Chivalry on 31/01/2013 - 13:05

      im not sure why either lol - perhaps i can rewire my monitors to the pc so that it can power them.

      honestly tho, i'd probably ask them to downgrade it to a 650 or 850 max - which should not be a problem

      • videoman on 31/01/2013 - 13:31
        +8

        Its probably a crap generic brand so its actually something like a 500w PSU in reality.

    • jv on 31/01/2013 - 13:37
      -1

      why?

      It's great during Winter…

      • Shaw on 31/01/2013 - 13:40
        +17

        ….Meanwhile in jv's house…

        -The family huddles around his PC PSU, keeping warm, while he is OZB'ing, too tight to buy a heater until Kmart have one on clearance!-

    • [Deactivated] on 31/01/2013 - 13:59

      High power PSU's can be more efficient than low power ones; it's not using 1200 watts that's just it's power rating

    • Zidago on 31/01/2013 - 14:33

      How the hell else am I supposed to run everything in the house?

  • PlayerOne on 31/01/2013 - 13:06

    What's the difference to bump up the HDD to 2tb?

  • Bappy on 31/01/2013 - 13:10

    1200 PSU and only 500GB HDD (hopefully they are 7200rpm)
    Better to downgrade the PSU to ~800 and increase RAM and HDD

  • inusure on 31/01/2013 - 13:11

    good price, imo.

  • xyron on 31/01/2013 - 13:23
    +12

    Err, what brand and model is the "1200w" PSU?

    If it's some A-Power or SHAW branded bullshit, then it should not be included on the spec list at all. If it is actually a Silverstone Strider Gold 1200w or a Corsair AX-1200 or Antec HCG-1200w or something, then let us know - because one of those PSUs is worth $200+ on its own…

    I'm negging this deal purely because of this poor tactic being used by Vision Tech - anyone who doesn't know about the lies and scams rampant in the PSU industry will get conned by thinking they are getting value for money here. The rest of the system isn't that remarkable - what is the model of the SSD? What is the model of the motherboard (likely some mATX bulging-cap special with some H77 or B75 budget chipset).

    • kasp on 31/01/2013 - 13:33
      +2

      It would have to be one of those extremely cheap brands. SHAW power supplies actually explode if you take them to their rated capacity (or anywhere near it)Pity we live in a hot country because they generally don't like heat either.

      Given what the computer is and what capacity it actually requires there is no bloody way you would throw in a 1200 PS unless it was cheap as chips.

      As for the Mobo generally if someone is buying a complete package like this they aren't going to be pushing the mobo much and usually the cheaper motherboards are fine for this purpose.(as long as it's a known brand) I thought the caps dramas were a think of the past?

    • Chthonic on 31/01/2013 - 13:41
      -6

      Why would the brand matter for someone who is purchasing a pre-built system? You may not realise this, but the majority of people only have a basic understanding of computers - limited understanding of components such as the CPU, Cache, RAM, GPU and PSU.

      Hardly worth the neg based off such silly assumptions. If you consider yourself technically savvy and can build your own computer then yes, the brands would matter to you. For everyone else please state why this build is not a bargain and where you can get one cheaper.

      • xyron on 31/01/2013 - 13:43
        +5

        Anyone buying a prebuilt system with a high-end i5 and a HD7950 graphics card (near top-of-the-tree in AMD's single-core graphics lineup) is going to want a quality PSU. They may well not know that not all 1200w PSUs are made equal. They need to know.

        Someone buying this machine isn't someone buying a $399 Compaq laptop special from Officeworks. They should be expecting quality components.

        • ItsMeAgro on 31/01/2013 - 14:31
          +2

          he PSU has no bearing on whether the system will be good or not

          A bad PSU can literally explode. You'll have a $1000 modern art piece.

          When it comes to PSUs, brand matters, certainly a lot more than "wattage" ratings claimed by a dodgy manufacturer.

          Still, most modular PSUs are nice brand-name ones, right? Just post the complete specs, rep.

        • Mikeologos on 31/01/2013 - 17:42

          I find this rather insulting. I am someone who does graphic design, and I would much prefer paying 5-10% more for a computer if it was built for me with all quality components and came with a 2 year+ warranty.

          I can build a computer just fine, but when I feel like, you know, working, learning, things like that. I would rather not have to deal with building and maintaining a computer. If something goes wrong, guess what, it's got a warranty! I don't have to waste MY time fixing it.

        • _Bruce_ on 31/01/2013 - 18:26
          +2

          Mikeologos: Not clear on what you find insulting. Or what it has to do with graphic design.

        • Chthonic on 31/01/2013 - 18:56

          What does any of this have to do with graphic design? It's not a technical job at all rofl.

        • Mikeologos on 31/01/2013 - 18:59

          "People who buy this will have limited understanding" - Chthonic

        • _Bruce_ on 31/01/2013 - 19:05
          +1

          Mikeologos: OK I follow you now, but the previous comment lacked context, so I really couldn't work out what/who insulted you.

          Chthonic: What do you mean by 'not technical' anyway? You are coming across as just being rude/insulting because you are bored/immature.

        • Chthonic on 31/01/2013 - 19:31
          -1

          My original point was about the poster who negged based off silly assumptions regarding the PSU, subsequently failing to provide a 'better deal' than the one provided by the OP.

          Basically what my point is:

          • It's a good deal.
          • The deal should not be negged by people who consider themselves technically savvy because they're unhappy with one component.
          • The PSU isn't a major contributing factor to the computer, it has zero performance implications and the chance of it "blowing up" is significantly low.

          Apologies if the above post came across as rude, but a graphics design job is not technical which is why I'm confused as to why you found my post offensive.

      • viggenn on 31/01/2013 - 13:49
        +6

        Why does it matter? Because if you're power supply is shitty and blows it will likely take the rest of the system with it. No big deal because of warranty? Think again. I used to work at a shady local computer store which purposefully put shitty power supply's in due to cost. WHEN the builds came back due to the supply blowing, the owner made it store 'policy' to blame it on a 'power surge' and say it is not covered by warranty. Every customer was urged to take it up with their insurance/energy provider.

        Now I'm not saying Vision Tech is like this, but be aware that stuff like that can happen.

        You should NEVER skimp on the power supply.

        • Chthonic on 31/01/2013 - 13:53
          -4

          Every computer I've ever built I would skimp on the case and PSU. I've built many personal computers and have never had a problem.

          I've also built thousands of computers with cheap PSU's that are used daily by academics running powerful, powerful simulation programs that destroy their computers and really put them to the test, sometimes running intense programs such as ARCGIS and C code for days at a time.

          The PSU IS important, I agree, although it's extremely unlikely you will ever have any problems with it damaging other hardware.

        • [Deactivated] on 31/01/2013 - 14:02
          +1

          Yeah same, in theory they are a risk but in practice it rarely happens that a cheap PSU will "blow everything up" or even give you any issues as long as it has the power

          You know all those little PSU's used for your monitor, XBOX, laptop? They are a lot worse than most cheap desktop PSU's!

        • xyron on 31/01/2013 - 15:05
          +6

          And they are also providing a lot less power than an i5 on turbo boost + a HD7950 can draw from the socket when under full load…

          I used to work in a PC building and troubleshooting business. We used cheapo PSUs all the time that came with the cheapo cases we were pushing on to customers. They would all, almost invariably, eventually blow up, sometimes taking other components with them. It's not worth the risk. Tests have been conducted on OCAU and other forums on no-brand 860w/1200w PSUs, and they have consistently been shown to be unable to put out even half of that power under load, let alone do it cleanly and efficiently (remembering that unclean DC power can be just as damaging for your components as a PSU going bang in the night, and an inefficient PSU is generating heat and excessive power bills).

          Vision Tech should be putting a decent ~500w PSU in this system from a reputable brand like Antec, Corsair, Silverstone et cetera. One with 80Plus certification, and one for which they can proudly advertise the brand in a less ominous fashion than "1200w Modular Gaming PSU".

          Also, I may not have noticed this before or it may have been added in, but I see the motherboard included is a Gigabyte Z77M-D3H - better than I was expecting, but still a very basic mATX board with limited room for expansion.

        • Chivalry on 31/01/2013 - 17:14

          i think if i waited for the rep to post the deal, they might have been able to answer the question around the exact brand/model of the PSU. But thanks to your comments, if i do go for the machine, i'll ensure to get a decent branded PSU, and possibly an upgrade to a better Mobo if the price difference isnt too big.

          but i think one of the most important things is with prebuilds is that its almost never perfect especially for the perfect price… I just hope i can make it better using this as a starting point. =)

  • _Bruce_ on 31/01/2013 - 13:23
    +2

    i'd ask for the RAM to be 2 x 4gb instead to best utilize the dual channel memory architecture.

    In modern systems this really makes very little difference. 1x8 just makes it easier to add another 8 later if you want to.

    • Chivalry on 31/01/2013 - 15:17

      ahh really? i was reading up that the performance of using 2x4 is better than 1x8.

      • _Bruce_ on 31/01/2013 - 15:30
        +2

        In the early days of dual channel it mattered a lot more, but now the bottlenecks are elsewhere in the system.

        You can certainly conceive of benchmarks that show a difference, but real world usage difference is very slight.

      • chipstss on 31/01/2013 - 15:53
        +1

        There's really no difference in real world usage apparently.

        • Chivalry on 31/01/2013 - 17:08

          Cool stuff, thanks Guys. =)

  • firstpost bekind on 31/01/2013 - 13:28
    +3

    I reallydoubt itll be q corsair. The case and psu is one of the things pc makers skimp on. Itll like be some case/psu bundle which cost them less than $100 together.

  • Panama on 31/01/2013 - 14:30

    That's amazing value for money.

  • lbsyc on 31/01/2013 - 15:49
    +1

    I hope this is not the re-revamped version of Vision Tech's highly criticized(fail) system as shown here http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/91732 ,if so, this build is once again a disappointment.

    • ItsMeAgro on 31/01/2013 - 16:10
      +1

      Honestly it might be fine. The CPU and GPU are good choices for a gaming rig. But the missing specs (PSU brand/model etc) are frustrating.

      With a PC, you can't say if it's a bargain or not unless you know exactly what's in it.

      I'm guessing the complete specs are OK this time, but rep just lost a bunch of sales by not posting them initially.

  • HTID09 on 01/02/2013 - 02:18
    +1

    So no rep from Vision Tech on here this time to answer some questions?

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