Seriously decent GMT watch from a reputable brand with a true GMT movement.
Rolex GMT functionality for a fraction of the price.
Trouble is now I can’t decide if I still want to get a Traska or this instead
Citizen Series 8 GMT ‘Pepsi’ $999 ($974 with Signup) - RRP $2250 @ Watch Depot
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Seiko 5 is a caller/office GMT.
This is a true flyer GMT with independent hour hand. Big difference in the movement.
I meant the look
you'd still be very wrong. Seiko 5 feels incredibly cheap in hand. This does not.
@marshmall0w2: Well if you can't visually see a difference between this and a Seiko 5 Sports, I can't help you.
@ASR-Briggs: What Seiko 5 you talking about Willis?
The field GMT is great and not like a normal Seiko 5
Anyone who knows anything about watches can instantly tell the difference from a seiko 5 just looking at the finishing.
If you can't tell from a glance then you're not the target market and probably shouldn't be giving your opinions about watches…
@alteyez: Haha alright alright. I won't make fun of the Pepsi. After all, I only have this shoddy watch too
@marshmall0w2: Pfft not even a Grand Seiko, gotta go buy more 7800x3ds from AE and put those savings to good use!
@jaejae69: Never spend over a grand on a Seiko?
Funny how if you spend excessively on a GPU you get a big nod from the nerds but spend on anything else and you get roasted
@marshmall0w2: Sure, that's a nice Seiko, with a story to match (the Laurel). But, without even googling, I can bet it's a 6R movement. Seiko is lagging so much behind the Swiss and Citizen in terms of movement selection. And it's not like they don't have good movement like the 8L family, but you have to get in the $4K range for those.
Though it's not for me (my ideal Citizen would be a HAQ titanium like The Citizen), I think this IB style Flyer GMT is pretty hard to beat for 1K. The movement also seems to be a Citizen-only so not a typical off-the-shelf Miyota.
Very nice…
Commited not to buy a new watch but I would be all over this deal if I was.Movement, quality and finish should far above Seiko 5.
Movement, quality and finish should far above Seiko 5.
You would certainly hope so given the Seiko 5 is quite literally half the cost of this at ~$500, even much less on sale. This would probably be more comparable to the Seiko Prospex or Alpinist GMTs than a Seiko 5.
What I'd be a bit more concerned about, having owned a fair few Citizen and Seiko watches over the years is that Citizen tends to retain much less value than Seiko. Both obviously lose money going from new to used, but Seiko loses much less, particularly for the higher-end Prospex, Alpinist, Presage models which seem to be quite liquid and have good interest from buyers.
The way I see Seiko / Citizen, is almost like Rolex / Omega - there doesn't seem to be much in it when you compare the watches one-on-one, but somehow the market seems to favour Seiko (or Rolex) vs. Citizen (or Omega).
"I love you, papa Homer."
"I love you too, Citizen."
There was no Cane in Citizen Kane!
"The big dippa thing is Alan the cowboy"
1k watch but crown is not signed..
I think there's many watches at this price point without signed crown.
GMT: For people who find it difficult to add or subtract a few hours in their head, or don't have a smartphone.
You could say that about a watch
Man, I'm so not the target audience for this deal.
i have an old Seiko 6138 kakume, which i love, but the automatic movement needs a service, and i just can't justify the minimum $500 you need for a service, last time i checked 10 years ago, i dont even want to think how much it must be now, let alone to even be lucky enough to find a true watchmaker. What do people do for a living to have the money for this not to be an issue? No matter how much we love the miniaturized machinery, it's still just an analog device less accurate and with fewer functions that the smartphone we all carry, or even a $50 Xiaomi band.
I have an old Casio ARW-320 with altimeter that i love to bits, but it sits in a drawer somewhere because the one guy in Australia that could actually fix it (Swiss ex-pat watchmaker, cool guy too) passed away 10 years ago. Welcome to the throw away society, where a new replacement is cheaper than the cost of labour to fix.
$500 you need for a service, last time i checked 10 years ago, i dont even want to think how much it must be now, let alone to even be lucky enough to find a true watchmaker. What do people do for a living to have the money for this not to be an issue?
I always find it strange when people ask this "what do people do for a living" type of question.
Based on what I could find, for a non-chrono watch (e.g. see https://melbournewatchrepairs.com.au/price-list/?srsltid=Afm…), the price is around $660 for a full service.
You'd probably need to service a watch once every 10 years (or even potentially less than that), that's $66 per year, or $5.50 per month, or $1.27 per week, or $0.18 per day.
I'm obviously not trying to demean individual struggles that people may have, but you certainly don't have to be doing anything special for a living to afford owning and servicing a mechanical watch, the cost of which is around a cup of coffee a month.
The rest is just moot - mechanical watches these days are a hobby, a luxury, or both. Smartphones have nothing to do with this, mechanical movements were already practically killed off for "mainstream" watches during the Quartz crisis, and subsequently, by old brick Nokia phones, well before smartphones. Mechanical watches are just jewellery at the end of the day.
The inflation-adjusted total cost of paying $660 every 10 years over 70 years is approximately $38,277. This accounts for cumulative inflation from 1955 to 2025, assuming payments were made every decade.
not a personal fan of the design but a great watch for the price no doubt
The appearance of all variants is extremely derivative but it looks well finished, the dials are beautiful and the Miyota 9K is an excellent movement.
I think this is a nice looking design.. I'm honestly half contemplating.. but should probably stop buying watches for now
Pseudo rolex
marshmall0w2 on 31/10/2025 - 21:56 Comment score below threshold.