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This is the best electric car ever created. This is the safest car ever created, according to crash tests. This car is energy efficient and will help us move to renewal energy. Once we have superchargers installed, you will get free electricity and never pay to recharge for the life of the car. Change the world.
https://www.teslamotors.com/en_AU/own
No thanks. I am happy with the car I bought from Tmart https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/116561, still going strong and is much more environment friendly
Wow just flicked through the interior on the site. The future is here guys. Wouldbuyifihadthecash
Hurray i just not bought a step down transformer .
Does OW price match ?
I'd much prefer the 6000 SUX
performance figures here: http://www.cnet.com/au/news/tesla-model-s-on-sale-in-austral…
i was gonna buy one, than I woke up
The luxury car tax is a killer
It's only like 5%
So the best part of 5 grand then?
I mean if you're willing to pay $90k for a car is $5k luxury tax really going to kill it for you?
BRB, got to go clear my Dollarmite account for the $40K deposit on the Signature Model X ;)
Yes!!!! The future is here!!!! Aliens!!!!
Is anyone else finding their site really slow at the moment? Have… they actually been Ozbargained? :-O :-D
Edit: Whoop, no, just my shitty slow Internet. That would be cool, though!
Roonet strikes again!
I would really like to buy one. Sounds like an awesome toy.
Damn mortgage, and expenses, and reality. Sigh.
A tongue in cheek (graphical) Cliff Notes version of the (IMO) awesomeness of this car:
"Cliffs Notes"…shmahoo list # 4
Wow i really want one of these now :(. Oh well, i might have to wait until gen 3 or 4 most likely.
Thanks but might wait until Dick Smith stock them and get it at 12% off.
lol…that should be added to shmahoo's post as number 6! so it should look like:
We are interested in (in the following order):
1) Bad puns
2) Saving a buck (even if we have to buy something we don't want or need)
3) make fun of jv
4) completely deride someone who is making a useful and helpful point that would benefit the community at large if their happens to be one grammatical or spelling error in the post.
5) Finding weird and wonderful ways to use our ING Direct card
6) waiting until Dick Smith stock them and get it at 12% off.
Something about DSE employees hoarding all the stock for themselves?
The 'their' in point 4 is killing us
Bought 1 for each day of the week , don't need the free charge - just use all your eneloops
how much do these cost to refill with current electrical prices. its say 85kwh but if that means 5 hours charge that seems very expensive to load the tank?
At 20c/Kwh and assuming 100% efficiency (which you won't get) that works out to $17 for a full charge. Not bad for a "full tank of gas"
I'd love to own one, but I don't have even close to that kind of money.
But for anyone considering, it might be worth waiting, 'coz since the government subsidies to the auto industry are ending and there won't be any more locally manufactured cars (sigh), there'll be pressure on them to drop the luxury car tax, which was supposedly a protectionist measure designed to aid the local industry. That would take about $4k off the price according to their breakdown.
I don't hold much hope of the luxury car tax being scrapped or changed. The federal government would be giving up a nice chunk of tax revenue, plus manufacturers that mostly sell cars below the threshold (Mitsubishi, Suzuki, Toyota, Hyundai, Mazda, etc) would be campaigning to retain the tax. Without it low priced 'luxury' cars become more affordable.
can i recharge using power banks?
You shouldn't be allowed to buy one if you can't spell. For those that started school after 1980, practise (note we use "s" for verbs and "c" for nouns as in license and licence) this sentence:
They're watching their sheep graze over there. By the way, they only own one sheep.
Hover your cursor over that Tesla Model S thumbnail on the right hand side. Click on "I Want This!" 85kWh is $12k more expensive than 60kWh one, which I think would be more suitable in Australia since we don't have Supercharger stations here. I guess they don't take the Eneloops either?
How many times will this charge my phone?
"will help us move to renewal energy"
How? I live in Victoria, where 80% of electricity comes from coal. So when I charge the car, I'm paying the coal fired power station. Hmm yeah definitely helping us move to renewables.
In fact, The Checkout did a story on this a while back. Compared CO2 emissions from a V8 Commodore (or something) to a fully electric vehicle. The emissions were WAY less in the electric vehicle…..in Tasmania. But in Victoria? The fully electric car used MORE CO2 in indirect coal-fired electricity emissions. Hmmm…
When the coal plant is replaced with a windfarm, all electric cars will be powered by renewable energy.
When the coal plant is replaced with a windfarm, all petrol cars will still be powered by fossil fuels.
Good luck retrofitting a solar panel to your V8 Commodore.
No, this wont happen overnight, but I can't see a valid argument that centralising energy generation is not helping us move to renewable energy for transport.
You could also fit your house with solar panels, which are getting cheaper all the time.
You lose around 30% just from storing power in batteries to charge your car at night.
Most Commos have huge boots, and older Commos have very heavy, inefficient motors.
If you need the space and have a short commute, a Commodore or Falcon could work as a back yard electric conversion (but you'll need ~1.5x more batteries than a city car).
Victoria burns brown coal. It's dirty, inefficient and cheap.
NSW burns black coal. Watt for watt, a black coal power plant can be emit slightly less than 80% of the CO2 a modern petrol car produces.
This is ignoring losses that electric cars introduce. For a Tesla, the grid adds 3-15%, Tesla batteries 10% and Tesla converters 5%. In Newcastle coal wins. Sydney is close to even. In Broken Hill petrol wins easy.
In a cheaper electric car, fuel wins easily when powered solely by coal. That said, most places are installing large wind farms because it's extremely cheap if done right.
I agree with most of your points but trying to insist that providing electricity generated from wind energy is extremely cheap is a bit rich. There is a reason the people responsible for funding such activities chose coal over wind and it wasn't because wind was cheaper.
Before anyone wonders I'm not against phasing out coal but there's no point in deluding ourselves.
Where can you service these and how much does it cost?
I would assume that servicing wouldnt be very often.
what exactly are you going to service/maintain. No cooling system, no oil, no engine with all those faults. Just electro motor.
There are not so many parts that could be faulty.
electric car just pain in the ass to get it charged …i have enough mobile phone to worry about, not another car to charge…
amazing how the Model S was going to be priced at ~US$50K according to Tesla, prior to release, finally it's reaching Australia at double the price!
It ends up $175k with sports pack and $3k of tech (which they charge 12k + tax).
Actually it seems like a really nice car And of cause I would love either the S or X but its out of my price range LOL
I heard Tesla accepts Bit Coins… ;)
In bitcoins, the car costs 128 today. 200 two months ago. 75 in November 2013. Could be 50 or 500 before the end of the year.
I say let them keep their overpriced electric cars for now, it wont be long that the tables will turn and electric cars will be forced upon us and owning a internal combustion engine car will be considered a great luxury and taxed accordingly.
Price it at 60K as initially promised and I buy one now, actually once I sell my other car.
Who promised that?
Waiting on:
As of now, I buy a $40,000- $50,000 car, drive it for 5 years, as soon as the warranty expires, I sell it and buy another $40,000 - $50,000 car. Rinse and repeat. Costing me around $20,000 $30,000 to have a car for 5 years excluding fuel and maintenance costs.
Only way I am spending double the money on the Tesla is if it can last me 10 years. Most of the $40,000 - $50,000 cars brand new don't last for 10 years these days.
And am not spending $100,000 on the Tesla to keep it as a weekend toy. I would rather put that money towards a NSX and keep it forever.
You have not considered any running nor maintenance costs in your 5 or 10 year ownership plans.
As suggested earlier, it can be "filled"(charged up) for $17. Giving a range of 500kms. $17/5 = $3.40/100kms
Petrol powered vehicle giving a 'real world' fuel average of 10/100 @ $1.50 = $15/100kms
For every 100kms traveled, you are $11.60 better off in the Telsa.
To equal the $50,000 cost difference, $50,000 / $11.60 = 4310*100kms = 430,000kms.
So I would suggest if you traveled 43,000kms per year. It is cheaper to buy this car.
These figures do not include that obviously a $100k car would have higher resale than a $50k car.
They also do not include the significant servicing costs required every 10-15kms on a petrol car. (Average of $300 per service, at 10K kms, 430/10 = 43. 43 services * $300 = $12,900
electric car has less mechanical parts to go wrong with. and no oil or radiator. no tuning. only major replacement items would be tires and batteries.
Good points and that's why I mentioned, I need to see the network of superchargers. Only way I can do those Kms per year is if it allows me to drive the car interstate like I do on my current car. If all I am doing is driving to Westfield and back, this will not be worth the saving.
Also, maintenance/service cost can be negated with new cars. I do my own servicing plus follow the manufacturer's service log. The MY14 Mitsubishi Challenger has 1 year service intervals (or X kms). I change the oil/oil filter every half of that limit by myself. All up with servicing I see another $5000 at max spent over 5 years.
Any major defects/faults are covered by warranty.
I know the Challenger won't last 10 years. Diesel engines, these new small ones will sting me with an expensive bill when replacing the injectors.
So counting towards a 5 year cycle. I purchased the car for $41,000 with extras. + $5000 for servicing. My annual fuel bill is $3000 for travelling to and from work. I will add another $2000 for the interstate trips I do sometimes (twice a year max). That's $71,000 for five years. Resale value of a 5 year Challenger well maintained is around the $20,000- $25,000 mark. So my cost for the car is $50,000 over 5 years.
That $20,000 I got, goes into the deposit for my next ~$50,000 car to last me the next 5 years.
I've now seen the car of my dreams..
I'm drooling at the size and functionality of that incredible high definition touch screen not to mention the other amazing specs!!
One powerball people ;)
Just one power ball away..
Finish powerball? I have 6000 of them from ozbargain.
True ozbargainer
Once these become cheap enough, hopefully OzB will come up with some even cheaper ways of charging them.
They are free to recharge at superchargers. You can't get much cheaper than that.
Yeah I sat in it in Miami and looked at the power station board……um 1 station in Sydney and well……100km circle?
It's actually quite grunty.