Trainer Qualification - Certificate IV in Training Assessment - Online - EOFY Special for $275

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  [Deactivated] on 27/06/2015 - 15:20

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  Elmo? I prefer cookie monster myself

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  ShipShapeRC on 27/06/2015 - 16:41

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  Cert IV in Training and Assessment should be called Cert IV in Federally Driven Processes, Acronyms and Miscellaneous B.S. Terminology. Seriously the first 50% of the course is just learning the lingo so you can do the second half of the course. Teaches more about how to fill in the mountain of paperwork garbage in training and little about how to teach or train. Yes done it and worked in it. I would hate to try to learn it via correspondence. The system was much better before the Nationally Accredited Framework was enforced.

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    outlander on 27/06/2015 - 17:28

    How are you going to be able to convince the burger slave its in his best interest to study a certificate in Retail sales if you can't roll of a bunch of mumbo jumbo?

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      ShipShapeRC on 27/06/2015 - 21:59

      The mumbo jumbo is not what's being said to the students. The mumbo jumbo relates to the paperwork and box ticking. It just means teachers spend more hours now doing paperwork which means less time with the students and actually teaching them skills. No reflection on elmo, it's the system.

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    Regie69 on 27/06/2015 - 18:28

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    Well worth doing. I know you sit through all the crap but in the end someone has it and you dont. Guess who's going to get the job. Yes iv done it

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      ShipShapeRC on 27/06/2015 - 21:56

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      Well you have to have it to do the job. It's a requirement. And yes I have it, so not sure what you meant by "you don't". I was just disappointed that a course on training and assessment was really about lingo and paperwork rather than about training people. I have seen too many backyard training companies abuse their RTO status to churn out garbage courses, with inadequately trained students. Once the RTO goes through the quality audit, they lose their status, the backyarder company is folded and they go and set up a new one. I believe they have stopped the backyarders giving away laptops to lure students in. So much funding has been taken by these groups that long term educators like TAFEs have had serious cut backs because these backyarders can deliver training so much cheaper - even if it is a full time 1 year tafe course being taught in a weekend by backyarders. If they tick a years worth of boxes in a weekend, they paid for delivering a full years training.

      I'm not saying that's what this elmo company is. I just think the National Framework was developed by well meaning geeks but the system does not work as well as what we had 20 years ago.

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        Regie69 on 27/06/2015 - 22:44

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        Sorry wasn't say "you don't" I meant to say "if you dont".
        My bad

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        ShipShapeRC on 28/06/2015 - 12:42

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        @Regie69: Oh no worries. Sorry to rant too.

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  [Deactivated] on 27/06/2015 - 17:15

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  SPAM

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  StewBalls on 27/06/2015 - 19:06

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  Great price for a cert IV.

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  onetwothreefour on 27/06/2015 - 19:53

  Certificate IV in Business (BSB40212) has been superseded with BSB40215 so does this mean the training provider is providing outdated training?

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    Click_It on 28/06/2015 - 11:12

    Could always RPL most of it for a quick upgrade to the current?

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      onetwothreefour on 28/06/2015 - 11:17

      But if you can't RPL because you haven't studied before you would be studying old material.

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        Click_It on 28/06/2015 - 11:30

        I meant RPL from this course to the current one, but it's not ideal I agree.

        I'm seeking opinions on this RTO from some very knowledged business contacts. I'll trust what they say about it. I'm very interested in bundling a number of courses to get more job opportunities (I'm a qualified Trainer but without upskilling I'll need to find a new career soon)

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        shrapnelreloaded on 29/06/2015 - 08:19

        @Click_It:

        Hey there update me as well. Im interested in bundling 2 cert iv as well. Thanks

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        Click_It on 29/06/2015 - 11:50

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        @shrapnelreloaded:

        Their view wasn't glowing. 1 said stay away, the other said it seems okay on the surface but we'd need to ring them and speak about what level of support provided etc.

        Also, for trainers - ASQA are now coming down on where trainers obtain their qualifications and auditing RTO's more harshly when their trainers qualifications come from unknown colleges, or gathered a bunch of quals in a small amount of time such is possible here.

        If not a trainer then it's probably okay. Many employers will see the quals and not look any further into it. I still regard myself as a trainer so for me it's probably time to walk away, pointless having quals if my future employers (RTO's) won't acknowledge them.

        It is tempting but I'd certainly speak with them and find out what level of support is available, how many other students studying, can you all keep in contact with each other etc. Are you completely alone in other words.

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  Click_It on 28/06/2015 - 10:50

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  Sounds too good to be true almost, I hope it's not. Anyone care to share their experience with this or other similar online RTO's? I'm in a big need of upskilling and happy to throw considerable money at it given how much cheaper these courses are to the alternative options. What sort of support system could I expect here, quality of the courses, any information like that I'd be interested to hear about.