Qantas Charged Me Business Class End to End Airfare but Put Me on Economy in 1 Leg out of 4. It Is Fair?

Hi First time posting in the forum.
Looking for some advice before I move on (literally) or move on to ACCC.

Without being too lengthy I am summarising in points and removing unimportant details

Case

  • Booked 2 x Business Class from Australia to a Europe City for a business trip on Qantas website.
  • The journey consists of one connection each way with total travel time ~ 48hrs. Let's call the ex-Aust flight Leg 1 and Leg 2 and the return flight Leg 3 Leg 4.
  • Total airfare listed on the chosen departure and return dates is $8800 per head (total airfare per booking is $17k). For comparison sake, the equivlant economy class would cost $2000 for the same dates of travel.
  • There were multiple choices of returning flights on the date I picked. They were all showing ~$4400 for return flight, no matter where they are connected. Since the price listed were about the same I presumed they offer same business class services (note 1)
  • I have picked one out of the about five available choices of returning flights
  • After the booking is confirmed, it confirmed one of the returning flight Leg 3, which has a 7hr flight time, was changed to Economy class. Total price is still the same as $8800 per head.

My Issue

  • I cannot accept why when I picked business class end to end service, willing to pay the precived price difference ($2000 vs $8800) and still end up in economy class for 7 out of 48hrs.
  • From the start, Qantas presents this a Business class service. (If you book on the their website, after you select the date of travel, you need to pick Travel Class and select from Economy, Premium Economy, Business or First Class). While the price they charge reflect Business Class service. Qantas disguise a semi / partial Business Class Service as End-to-end Business class service. Not only that. Qantas charges same price.

What I have done since

  • Attempt to file a email complaint on Qantas website. 2 days later I got a response back only to ask me call the general customer service line 131313
  • And I did. After 54mins of waiting time, I were finally able to talk to an operator and then quickly been referred to a Customer Service Manager.

Qantas's defence

  • Leg 1,2,3 are not operated by Qantas and were with a code-share arrangement. There is no business class on Leg 3 available and Qantas have no control of it
  • There was a warning during booking stating business class in Leg 3 may not be available. And i should have aware of it. Also T&C have them covered and I have agreed with everything during I booked
  • Qantas refused to comment while Leg 3 is being booked as Economy, why its price is the same as Business Class (see above note 1)

Qantas's decision over the phone

  • Allowed me a full refund and re-book (It is a business trip and I cannot do that)
  • Refused my request of a credit of the difference between the Business Class airfare and Economy Class Airfare for Leg 3.
  • I suggested an upgrade of my last leg 4, which is operated by Qantas and in they term, they have full control), to first class as compensation. Qantas refused.

My accusation to Qantas is

  • Qantas did not provide End-to-end Business Class service of what they are charging customer.
  • When Qantas knows customer wants to pay for Business Class Service but it is not available in part of the journey, Qantas could still call it and charge customer "Business class". And this is deceiving..

My question my fellow Ozbargainer are:

  • Do you think Qantas has any foul playing in this situation? Is their T&C (the tiny little box you click before paying) and that little warning during booking overides business common sense and basic consumer right that when people were charged for a full service they should get not a partial service?

If yes. Where should I go next? ACCC? Media?

I am sorry if it is still too lengthy.
Thank you for your comment and advice in advance.

**Update 18/10
- Leg 3 is QF8188, based on planefinder.net , Leg 3 has
Passenger classes
First Class, Economy, Business Class

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Comments

        • @TailsK: prolly

        • @TailsK:

          "Total airfare listed on the chosen departure and return dates is $8800 per head (total airfare per booking is $17k). "

  • +1

    OP; take some responsibility for decisions you made with all due diligence done by Qantas. Take it on the chin and move on if you don't want a refund.

  • +7

    I have a strong feeling that the OP chose the cheapest option and the prices where adjusted accordingly for the leg3 economy ticket.
    If the OP selected a more expensive ticket it would have been business on another flight at another time.
    It might not be the shortest connection time, but there are always options.

    A quick check on Emirates shows Barcelona to DXB has two flights a day 15:50 and 22:45.

    When making bookings, the website clearly states when a flight is not the requested booking class.

    I regularly make business class bookings to Europe from Sydney and fly Emirates/Qatar/Etihad.
    The flights usually cost 10K to 14K return.

    I still believe that the $8800 paid is an Economy adjusted price.

    • -2

      U fly Business and you still on OzBargain ?

      • My company's customers are willing to pay.

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        • +1

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          If you are Sydney based send me a message.

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    • +1

      This is probably what happened. OP only really has a beef he booked and paid for all 4 legs separately on business class. The price was adjusted for that leg.

  • Allowed me a full refund and re-book (It is a business trip and I cannot do that)

    So who paid for the flight, yourself or your company?

    I suggested an upgrade of my last leg 4, which is operated by Qantas and in they term, they have full control), to first class as compensation. Qantas refused.

    They can't magically create business class seats or kick someone out, the first line of choice is a full refund which seems fair to me.

    When Qantas knows customer wants to pay for Business Class Service but it is not available in part of the journey, Qantas could still call it and charge customer "Business class". And this is deceiving..

    I don't quite think the price you paid accurately reflects a full business class trip. Its seems rather cheap

  • Meh…. first world problem. Get over it. Your company/client is already paying for your majority business trip. You won't grow a third leg if you traveled economy on one of the legs. BIG F*** deal!! Age of entitlement gone mad. Call Bronwyn, she may organise a helicopter.

    • -1

      Yeah, companies should be able to charge whatever they want for providing a lesser product*!
      You are on the wrong web site.

      (*Which may or may not be the case regarding the OP. More info is needed.)

  • Qantas have an exclamation mark next to the fare when the requested class is not available on a selected fare class.
    Every time I see it I click on it. If you are a QF FF customer, you would have been credited Points and Status Credits at the booked fare.
    I'm unsure why you elected not to take the refund offered.

    • Because you haven't read the OP…

  • Ask Bronwyn if you can borrow her chopper.

  • Refused my request of a credit of the difference between the Business Class airfare and Economy Class Airfare for Leg 3.

    OP please confirm they definitely did charge you business class rates for leg 3 but providing economy class only. And do you know what the actual dollar difference is?

    • Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?

  • +5

    This post clearly displays the fine line between a genuine bargain hunter and an entitled twat.
    Long-winded embellished story when a simple one liner could've summed up the situation "I didn't pay attention when booking, what are my options?"

    You messed up yet one of your first thoughts is to take the innocent party to the ACCC & the media?
    People like you are the reason the rest of us are getting less nice things.

  • OP, if you have not learnt, you must by now that Airlines can charge you anything for the pleasure of flying in their aircraft!
    Anyone with some common sense would say cheers Qantas and accept the full refund. Go back to searching for flights, and be more careful with new booking. With so much air travel, flights run like buses and trains, and I'm sure you will find an appropriate replacement if not better.
    A question arises though, are YOU really traveling on business in business class ? If an honest YES, this is a very trivial thing to worry about.

  • -3

    Speak to Airline Customer Advocate

    Qantas is a participating airline.

  • +2

    I can't believe this thread is still going on. Seems like OP only wants to reply to people who are supporting his quest to find creative ways to seek an upgrade.

    Regardless of the circumstances, you are paying for a service and either;
    a) You've not properly read the terms and conditions (most likely)
    b) Qantas has deliberately mislead you

    However if you cannot provide proof of b) which from all accounts, you can't, then you aren't entitled to anything. The burden of proof falls on you to prove you have been mislead.

    The fact that a major corporation is giving you a refund for YOUR mistake is a win in itself.

    I suspect you are arguing because you'll have to explain to your colleague why one leg is in economy.

    </rant>

    • +1

      I suspect you are arguing because you'll have to explain to your colleague why one leg is in economy.

      In fairness it could also be

      Paid for by a company
      Hence no personal benefit for a refund, where as upgrade is a benefit

      BTW a your update doesnt give you much to go on unless you understand the arrangement between emirates and qantas for codeshare. If its Qantas advertisng availability then that is different from Emirates advertising availability. The codeshare may have allocated seats and these may not available to the other codeshare member depending on the agreement.

      You never explain why you cant take the refund and book with another airline. If it wasnt paid for by you, even businesses, if they are willing to pay the business class fare in the first place would accept your wish to rebook.

  • -2

    Oz Bargainer's don't fly business class, please take up your complaint whinging to your buddies at your exclusive golf club.

    • +2

      Yes they do, but only at economy prices 😯

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