Infringement notice on illegal torrent movie download in matter of days!

Hi all, got an infringement notice from my ISP netcube for the first time. Haven't downloaded movie for a while (mainly streaming from Kodi), one illegal download, then bang they got me lol. Content as below:

Dear XXXXX

Netcube has received a claimed infringement from the copyright owners of content you have allegedly downloaded as attached. The IP address provided by the complainant indicates that the conduct occurred over your Netcube Service.

As this type of infringement is taken seriously, it is our responsibility to advise you that Netcube does not condone the use of our internet services for activities which are offensive, illegal, or infringe on the legal rights of other persons. Such activities are expressly mentioned in our Terms and Conditions and these Terms and Conditions are a basis of which Netcube may suspend or terminate the services to you.

Within this claimed infringement notice it is alleged that you, or someone authorised by you, via your IP address has engaged in such activity. If you agree that you did engage in this activity, please cease it immediately. We also ask for you to stop future use and sharing of the exclusive copyright that is alleged to be infringed herein.

If you have any questions about this email or our Terms and Conditions, please contact Customer Service on [email protected] or 1300 58 68 78.

Please find attached the copy of the claimed Infringement.

Thank you.

Kind Regards,
NetCube Infringements Team
E-mail: [email protected]
Phone: 1300 58 68 78

FORWARDED EMAIL:

Dear Sir or Madam:

We are contacting you on behalf of Paramount Pictures Corporation (Paramount). Under penalty of perjury, I assert that IP-Echelon Pty. Ltd., (IP-Echelon) is authorized to act on behalf of the owner of the exclusive copyrights that are alleged to be infringed herein.

IP-Echelon has become aware that the below IP addresses have been using your service for distributing video files, which contain infringing video content that is exclusively owned by Paramount.

IP-Echelon has a good faith belief that the Paramount video content that is described in the below report has not been authorized for sharing or distribution by the copyright owner, its agent, or the law. I also assert that the information contained in this notice is accurate to the best of our knowledge.

We are requesting your immediate assistance in removing and disabling access to the infringing material from your network. We also ask that you ensure the user and/or IP address owner refrains from future use and sharing of Paramount materials and property.

In complying with this notice, should not destroy any evidence, which may be relevant in a lawsuit, relating to the infringement alleged, including all associated electronic documents and data relating to the presence of infringing items on your network, which shall be preserved while disabling public access, irrespective of any document retention or corporate policy to the contrary.

Please note that this letter is not intended as a full statement of the facts; and does not constitute a waiver of any rights to recover damages, incurred by virtue of any unauthorized or infringing activities, occurring on your network. All such rights, as well as claims for other relief, are expressly reserved.

Should you need to contact me, I may be reached at the following address:

Adrian Leatherland
On behalf of IP-Echelon as an agent for Paramount
Address: 6715 Hollywood Blvd, Los Angeles, 90028, United States
Email: [email protected]

Evidentiary Information:
Protocol: BITTORRENT
Infringed Work: XXXXXX
Infringing FileName: XXXXX
Infringing FileSize: XXXX
Infringer's IP Address: XXXXXXX
Infringer's Port: XXXXXXX
Initial Infringement Timestamp: 2015-08-10T09:19:23Z

I knew the government has authorized companies to pursue copyright infringement, just didn't know it's that full on. I meant I downloaded plenty of stuff before this, never got caught. Did change to netcue as of this month. Could it be Netcube actively reporting users? Apparently this is just a warning, so guess I better be more careful in the future. Better VPN more then ;)

Has anyone else got it too recently? Do we get 3 strikes or something before court action or fine?

P/S THE MOVIE WAS NOT DALLAS BUYER CLUB (SHIT MOVIE ANYWAY)….AND I JUST DOWNLOADED IT 3 DAYS AGO..SHIT'S GETTING REAL GUYS!

Comments

  • You sure the email is real?

    • +3

      yep it's real..from my ISP…and I did download the movie as described. The described file name even has exact same description as from KAT

      • +15

        Bring on the VPN deals.

        • +6

          VPN providers if you're reading this..I'm ready to splash some cash ;) Better be safe than sorry I guess

        • @Droid11:

          won't VPN really slow down the downloads?

        • @tyler.durden:
          I'm in no rush….

        • +1

          @tyler.durden:

          Depends really.

          Mine only slows it down a tiny amount but I've got slow internet anyway.
          My speed:
          395kb/sec to ~370kb/sec
          My friend on NBN using the same VPN:
          11.1mb/sec to ~10.5mb/sec

          VPNs do affect online gaming pings quite alot though.

        • +3

          Careful though … many of these VPN providers are nothing more than summer hosts. They'll sign you up for unlimited everything for half the cost and you'll get that service for a month or two before they vanish with your money and leave their oversold resources to die a slow and painful death.

          edit - point is prepay only for established providers with a solid rep

        • @tyler.durden: And they slow down litigation.

        • @wasabinator: So long as your host is an entity that exists outside of DMCA jurisdiction then you should be okay.

        • @kywst: Yeah true, I suspect with a growing number of VPNs 'privacy' is actually a bit of an illusion given how it's been shown that the various govts want to get their hooks into data, mostly to appease the big end of town who lobby them to do so.

        • @tyler.durden: You can always go seedboxes. These are fast as. Just get it down via ftp. Or with some you can stream it via plex instead of downloading it (if you think you may only want to watch once.

        • @kywst:
          That's a worry I have. With VPN companies being relatively new, it's hard to see which ones are credible. They'll likely want payments via credit card too, where they can keep on taking money out. I've heard horror stories about that happening with online companies, on the news.

        • @tyler.durden:

          I'm on ADSL2+ - on a connection via my ISP I get

          Your Line Speed
          17.51
          Mbps (17,510 kbps)

          Your Download Speed
          2.19
          MB/s (2,189 KB/s)

          Downloading via the VPN (I have two accounts) using a European or Asian server my download speed will be around 1,600 KB/s.

        • @Droid11:

          Go with PIA mate (Private Internet Access) good speeds, cheap and very reliable!

        • @tekkrohnz: Hey mate soudn quite technical, do you mind PM me how it works roughly? Cheers!

        • Re VPN: a lot of VPNs say they dont keep logs, just your original ip and log on/off times (presumable for law enforcement purposes) but dont keep details of sites visited. How honest are they with those statements? If push comes to shove they will probably give you up to save their hide…

        • I'll second that ! Started using them recently after doing some research - great tech support, dead easy setup (my 8yo daughter had her ipod connected in minutes) and only loose about 5% bandwidth. Exit servers everywhere and advertised policies (no logs, no torrent throttling, etc.). My first VPN and couldn't be happier with the service

        • PIA is fine if you can connect from the getgo. I signed up 4 days ago, chatted with first line of contact, logged support ticket. Still waiting.

          PIA Support site currently shows response time as 1 day 5 hours. It said 10 hours when I contacted this this morning. I questioned their 'advertised' response time given it had been over 2 days since I received automated confirmation of receipt of support ticket and waiting. The "Current Average Response Times" on their Support page moved to the still questionable "1 day 10 hours" very shortly thereafter, co-incidentally.

          so if you can connect with their software from the beginning, great. Initial and future support might be less spectacular.

      • Hi mate, bit of bad luck there, I assume it was from a public torrent site not a private site then. Does anyone know whether private torrent site is securer or they still can track?

        • I highly doubt it unless they have access to the actual torrents which would allow them to view all the participating nodes.

          I'm sure there's organisations registered on private trackers since people sell invites online.

        • yea it's public…KAT..

        • +1

          @Droid11: time for a private tracker ?

      • +1

        Was it a Cam Print or a movie still in cinemas?

        • +1

          Yea HD Cam..shoulda known better I guess

        • +2

          @Droid11: There you go. Thats your answer. If you will download CAM, HDCAM etc prints, there are really high chances of your getting an infringement email. You ll notice that any dvdrips and bdrips, you wont get any emails. Its the movies that are still in cinemas are tracked by the production companies.

        • @Droid11:

          Why risk downloading a torrent for a CAM copy ?? If you want to watch CAM copies then use a streaming site (you won't notice much of a quality difference anyway)

        • +1

          @opt: cuz sometimes my streaming sucks, and the cam tend to be fairly high quality ..and i never got done before..

        • @jatdipasand:

          And why is that? Shouldn't DVDrip be easier to track?

        • +11

          @Droid11:

          the cam tend to be fairly high quality

          No. Just No. lol

        • @Son ofa Zombie: Why don't you download it and watch to find out? ;)

        • @financialwar: probably not worth spending money on older stuff.

        • +6

          @Droid11: Cam and high quality do not belong in the same sentence.

        • @jatdipasand: Actually, there are groups out there who do track the older movies, as this whole anti-piracy thing has turned into quite a cottage industry.
          It's just that the production companies cannot be bothered in chasing them up, as the time x effort x expense = $0
          Download Ghostbusters or The 39 Steps, and you'll probably never see a letter (I'm not a lawyer, shouldn't be taken as legal advice)

          IP-Echelon, if my memory serves me correctly was started and is run by, an Australian.

      • I call BS on them i have been get them for years just put then trash can move on i would buy VPN if you want them to stop.

      • -7

        I tell them sue sue away.

        • +5

          Considering the OP is very clearly legally in the wrong, and Paramount Pictures has WAY MORE MONEY than the OP (I assume) - this is a terrible idea.

        • -2

          @johnno07:
          The only proof they have is an IP address. An IP address does not identify a person, and they can't sue a household.

        • @matt6589:
          Or can they ?

        • +1

          @matt6589: It would be like your car photographed by a red light/speed camera. You have to prove it was someone else driving or you are liable for the fine. It's your internet account, you have to prove your flatmate/friend/partner did it and not you.

        • @johnno07: They can only sue if you have money.

        • @johnno07:

          We are not in america. They can only sue you for a reasonable amount, which is about $10.

          @Falchoon:

          Falchoon, why are you talking about fines? Copyright infringement is a civil matter.

        • +1

          @nocure: IP-Echelon Australia : They are at 350 Collins St, Melbourne, VIC, 3000, Australia

        • @matt6589: They don't have to - when you sign up for an internet connection, you clearly state that you will not use the connection for anything illegal.
          Much like if you loan your car to someone, who then smacks it into the side of a bus and then does a runner. In their absence, you inherit the responsibility of the crime.
          It may not be fair, but in the eyes of the law, someone has to be held responsible.

        • +4

          @Magpye:

          What's the go with people in this thread comparing copyright infringements with crimes? One is civil law the other is criminal law.

          Copyright infringement is not a crime.

          when you sign up for an internet connection, you clearly state that you will not use the connection for anything illegal.

          The TOS that you sign allows the ISP to break your contract without notice. It's there to protect them and no one else. They don't care if you are breaking the law.

        • @matt6589: It's not a crime yet. Just wait til we sign and ratify the TPP. Then everyone will be off to jail.

        • @matt6589:
          Where did you get the $10 figure from? I thought it would be more like 5-10K or was that a typo?

        • @lancedefrance:
          Maybe not as low as $10 but it won't be more than $50. Speculative invoicing might work in America but no sane judge would allow it here in Australia.

          Refer to the recent Dallas Buyers Club case against iiNet, especially the most recent news stories.

          See this: https://www.reddit.com/r/australia/comments/3gx1d6/

    • you should call them about it !! confirm its legit !!

  • -7

    this is the first ive heard of this in Australia not including that whole dalis buyer club or whatever that shit movie was.

    • +8

      Has happened to me previously too, different ISP.

    • +2

      I got it twice from TPG alleged me pirating The Walking Dead Series. I share with others in the apartment.

      • TPG sent them to me all the time told me stop call them back about them.

        • Eats shoots and leaves.

    • +4

      eh? This have been happening for a while now in Oz. I've got similar emails from TPG as well.

      • +2

        TPG, unlike Ionet, doesn't care about protecting their customers from greedy American capitalists and the parasitic lawyers they hire.

        • +1

          Was trying to work out who Ionet were…
          Yeah, the merger is going to go so well - their corporate cultures are so similar!

    • +1

      Yup, I'm on my 4th(?) letter, also TPG.

    • +1

      also had 3 from TPG. Never since joining a private site though

  • yep from my ISP…and i did download the movie as described…the file name has exact same description as from KAT

    • Which movie?

      • -4

        Don't know if I should spill it here…guess I could eh?

        • Friend, who got pinged for something something, sold his laptop. No more evidence.

        • @downero: got a desktop, but guess I could always destroy the HDD…I actually watched and deleted the movie already. From I knew, if you don't share the movie, you're less likely to get charged true?

        • +35

          Magic Mike?? I bet it was.

        • +5

          @Droid11: I believe when you torrent, you still seed/share, even a small bit and without your knowledge. And that's how they get you.

        • @Ughhh: Nope :P It's from Paramount anyway, so you could pretty much guess

        • +2

          @Droid11: I'll be back!

        • +1

          @downero:
          now I know… Sharknado 3

        • Was it a porno or something? haha

        • @knick007: sometimes I actually feel kinda bad for the porno chicks. They arguably "work" a lot harder for a lot less money than Paramount executives do. Never heard of infringment notices being sent out on their behalf though.

        • @jonathonsunshine:

          Malibu media (porn) sent out 64% of all notices in the US in 2013.

          https://torrentfreak.com/piracy-lawsuits-dominated-by-just-t…

    • +1

      Got several from my ISP — just ignore them, not a big deal.

  • +2

    In complying with this notice… I will destroy my evidence, I will throw my hard drive in the lake and yes i will buy a new computer, until we meet again.

    • +3

      Mate I'm not that rich, not gonna throw away $1500 PC for this ;P

      • -1

        then why have a $1500 PC in the first place

    • They can still recover everything from your hard drive even if you delete it and throw it in a lake.

      • +26

        How do they know which lake you throw it in?

        • -1

          They won't bother for a movie download, but they will have enough evidence to prove that it passed through your connection to ping you with an infringement..

          On another note.. depending the severity of the crime, they will still find it.

        • +1

          your smart phone tracking.

        • +3

          @eXtremist: True, i didn't think of that, i will have to visit a few lakes with different phones, so they have more lakes that the CSI scupa steve squad need to comb to find my HDD

        • +4

          @tight-a55: why not just leave yr phone home for the day?

      • +1

        better off with a sledgehammer and an oxy torch, id like to see them recover data after its been melted into a puddle.

        • +5

          Haven't you heard about those new T-1000 hard drives?

        • +1

          NSA copies your harddrive and takes screenshot of your monitor on a regular basis.

        • -1

          If I chuck out a hard drive, that is still operable, I try to use the manufacturer's software (if available) to format the drive and to write zeros to the master boot record. Then I dismantle the drive and do my best to destroy the discs. They're damned hard to damage, though! At best, I've managed to mildly scratch them. Now I have a blow torch, I'll try your idea, next time. :-)

        • @Captain Electrode: :don't waste your time or money. You get 3 warnings before the isp may decide to stop their service… Start using peerguard or peerblock. Someone more technical. exp'd can advise if a vpn is must… I have subscribed to ipa on previous OB deal… Do your own research.

        • @marcozmitch:
          Cheers. I wasn't overly worried about the download issue. I just thought I'd add my bit of paranoia about keeping regular stuff private.
          I'll check out those VPNs though. Thanks for recommending them. Coincidentally, yesterday our work computer system was down, due to losing our internet connection, and we couldn't trade. It turned out, using a wi-fi dongle, we are also required to log into a VPN or we can't access the net (It must be for extra security to prevent hackers), but that was a no-go because no-one had saved the user-name or password and it couldn't be retrieved for at least a day.

      • Not if you do it correctly ;)

      • //cough

        Gutmann, 35 passes +Schneier 7 Pass

  • +2

    It's legit mail, few of my mates too received same sort but 2 years back

    • No doubt it is legit, just didn't know they would issue notice in just matter of days

      • They too got in a weeks time, they were actually fined for $600ish (not a round figure)…I'm not sure if they have paid thou'

        • Just out of curiosity which ISP are they with? Wondering if it has to do with ISP?

        • @Droid11: It was TPG, just called mate and it was for some animation series

        • In Australia? How did they come up withe the $ amount?

        • @johnnybravoo0: and just like that im subscribing to a vpn for ALL torrent downloads.

          tpg nbn customer here.

        • @holden93: High bandwidth VPN not cheap though. Any recommendation? Still using VPN sh from deal last time

        • @Droid11: i canceled vpn.sh and deleted it from my computer they are not torrent friendly.

          https://torrentfreak.com/anonymous-vpn-service-provider-revi…

          i haven't personally decided yet.

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