Vietnam Holiday Help?

My partner and I will be travelling to Vietnam in June 2016. The only other country we have been to is America, so I know we are in for a culture shock. We have only just decided to go there so please excuse my questions if the answers seem quite obvious, we really have no idea.

So far we will be flying into HCM, spending a few nights doing the tunnels and what not, then we have 8 nights in danang/ hoi an, and then we fly to Hanoi for 5 nights.

I'm hoping someone can please assist with my below questions, and also give some advice on where the best places to go/see are?

I know that it is quite safe if you are observant, and this is a weird question, but as girl, is it safe to carry a handbag? Would I be better with something over the shoulder?

I have heard that foreigners can be given a hard time when they arrive in HCM by the customs guys, and ask for "coffee money" in order to be released or for a smooth transition?

Do you need a visa?

Are there really separate lines for men and women going through customs?

How do people travel there so cheaply? The nice hotels I have been looking at are upwards of $300 AUD a night? We have also been recommended to stay in a resort called the Nam Hai in Danang which is $1200 AUD a night?- This is our honeymoon so I would like to stay somewhere nice, but I thought this was a bit expensive?

How do you haggle with someone? And how do you know if they are ripping you off?

Should we be getting something from the pharmacy in case we get sick from the food? I have heard not to eat things that aren't cooked in front of you when it comes to the street food, and also the pho or soup is always quite safe.

General tips and advice would REALLY be appreciated- I want to be as best aware of everything as I can, and we are so super excited to go there for our honeymoon.

Thanks Guys!!!

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      • +3

        If you go to phu quoc. Stay on long beach. Its stunning and close to town. Also one of the main attractions. Plenty of nice hotels there. The nicest is probably la veranda however it's pricey.

        If you want to go diving. There's a place called flipper in the centre of town. Its run by a lovely French bloke called willy. They are by far the best on the island. I did my padi open water diving course with them.

        Spend a day in the south at sao beach. As I mentioned before; you can pay a taxi driver $40 to drive you round as your own tour guide if you wish. Otherwise bikes are perfectly OK there as it is not anywhere near as hectic as ho chi Minh or Hanoi. Dirt roads are still fairly common there however there are a couple highways recently finished connecting the north and south of the island.

        Spend a day in the north. There are some stunning resorts up there you should have lunch and a swim at such as mango bay (owned by prime ministers nephew), chez Carole (run by a sweet Viet american lady) and gio bien which is quite far north but worth the adventure. The thing with this area is that you need to leave early because even though its like 30-40 minutes drive. When the sun goes down. It gets dark really quick as there are few street lights out of duong dong.

        Go see some of the islands many waterfalls. I can't describe how nice it was to trek up this little mountain river to a basin, have chicken wings, eggs and beer organised and brought upto you while you enjoy the fresh clean mountain water and the warm sun on your skin. To top it off and have the Vietnamese equivalent of Michael Jackson breakdancing on a rock at the waters edge with his boombox for your entertainment. Bloody brilliant day.

        Get some pearls there. The quality of them are that of the pearls you get in Broome. For about a third of the price might I add.

        Go to a bar called Rory's bar. This is a must do and I should of mentioned it earlier. Rory (whose an Aussie bloke) will sit down with you and draw all over a map that he will give you with advice on where to go and what to do and recommend tours. Tell you what's bs and what's not. He will take care of you. Additionally Rory's bar is one of the go to destinations on the island. The bars shaped like a boat and separate kitchen too. It has beautiful cocktails and overlooks the sunset and they run a campfire by night. Its quite lovely. They also rent out long boards and stuff for pretty cheap. Worth getting as the water is dead flat and you can go out for miles. Just don't cross into the Cambodian waters as phu quoc is closer to Cambodia than it is Vietnam (it used to be Cambodian).

        Make sure you get pho at first Saigon one morning. You have to get there before 8.30-9.00 as they only do a breakfast and afternoon period. All the locals go there.

        There's a couple markets in the small city. Go for a stroll through and take in the sights and sounds.

        Do not get sucked into squid fishing tours. They're a joke.

        Don't go to the old gaol. Really not worth the time.

        There is a Swedish guy (Chris) and a Vietnamese dude (bin) who spent years building a gokart track just north of the main city if that interests you.

        There is a multiple hundred hole golf course under construction. Not sure if its complete yet but even its existence has been kept top secret. Planned to be the biggest in the world so I've been told. Might be worth investigating if that's something you or the hubby is into.

        There's also a water park in the north that no one goes to because there aren't enough tourists yet. It is operating and you can get in and enjoy a whole water park to yourself and a handful of others which is pretty amazing.

        There's an American burger joint called Winston's that's worth checking out. The owners; mike and Winston are great to have a chat and a beer with.

        Finally there's an upmarket Spanish tapas restaurant that's really beautiful and serves really amazing food called itaca. The owner; mattais is a Spanish chef.

        There's so much there, its hard to stop typing. I'd provide more names of these places and businesses if I could remember them all. The thing with phu quoc is that business owners know its going to be a big thing and numbers going there are increasing but it hasn't quite got there yet.

        Let me know if you have any questions. I've spent quite some time there.

        Regards,
        Resin

        • Resin! cannot thank you enough- this is the absolute most incredible advice~ I will fire some questions at you when they come to me!

          Sounds like a beautiful place! You're making it seem way less scary which is nice! haha

          Thank you again!!!

          Bec

  • Agree with much of the above, Ho Chi Minh is nowhere near as nice as the North.
    It feels corrupted by the war.
    We stayed with kids at this place in Ho Chi Minh, very good value but i'd never pay $300 a night anywhere!
    http://www.tripadvisor.com.au/Hotel_Review-g293925-d667699-R…

    As well as the tunnels, it's worth taking a Mekong tour I think.
    Kind of touristy but still gives you some idea of how important the river is.
    If it's still open there is the museum of war remnants.
    http://www.lonelyplanet.com/vietnam/ho-chi-minh-city/sights/…
    It's full on, brought me to tears several times.
    Also a tour of the reunification palace is pretty special, it's like a 60s Bond movie.

    In the north, just potter about.
    Hanoi is the most beautiful city.
    We stayed in the old quarter and i'd suggest that's the way to go unless you want a resort.
    don't worry too much about the culture clash stuff.
    You'll get used to SE Asia pretty quickly, i feel more out of place in Melbourne to be honest.
    Immerse yourself is my advice. It's just a few days, live like a local. well, a reasonably wealthy one.
    Find a couple of local places you like and return a few times, get to know the person making the coffee etc.
    you will very quickly feel at home.

    food - yes buy a beer by the roadside, drink the amazing drip coffee with condensed milk and eat the spring rolls.
    two restaurants with the same name in Hanoi - Little Hanoi - both amazing.
    and why you would spend $300 a night when $42 gets you this i have no idea.
    http://www.tripadvisor.com.au/Hotel_Review-g293924-d4480485-…
    the hang Chieu one is lovely too. that pool at the end of hot day is a god send.
    http://hanoiparadisehotel.com/hangchieu/

    one personal suggestion for Hanoi is to walk over the Long Bien Bridge.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Bi%C3%AAn_Bridge
    read up about it and then walk up one side and back the other (or just turn back when you are ready)
    it gives you a sense of just how resilient the Vietnamese are.
    it will also test your nerve too, it looks like it could fall down at any minute and you can see the water below at every step.

    have a great trip, very jealous.

    • Wow yes that hotel is beautiful! $300 a night i think was the cheapest hotel we were quoted, the Nam Hai was $1000 AUD per night! Seeing all these comments makes me think we have been ripped off completely!

      I've heard about the dripped coffee with condensed milk- people have told me if you want a hot coffee you have to ask for it hot, but id also like to taste it the way they make it normally!

      Thank you so much for your advice, really appreciate it!

      Bec

      • +1

        $300 a night i think was the cheapest hotel we were quoted, the Nam Hai was $1000 AUD per night! Seeing all these comments makes me think we have been ripped off completely!

        Totally ripped off.
        I stay in two bedroom apartments throughout Vietnam for $50/night or less.
        If staying longer things get real cheap, I rented a 4 bedroom furnished house in Nha Trang 1 street from the water for $300/mth
        I rented a great 4 bedroom villa with its own pool on a golf course and beach north of the Nam Hai for $1000/mth

      • If you are in Melbourne CBD (i'm sure there are hundreds of others) try this place for Vietnamese drip coffee.
        http://www.broadsheet.com.au/melbourne/food-and-drink/direct…
        Best i've ever had outside of Vietnam.
        And it is hot by the way, but it's cooled to warm by the time it's run through.

        You should also be able to use ATMs over there unless something changed in the last couple of years.
        Getting 1 million dong out of the wall was one of the coolest things ever.

      • Just ask for 'Hot coffee with milk'

  • +1

    This has been a great thread for me Bec as we are going for a family holiday in a couple of weeks!
    We used a travel agent based in HCMC and she has booked all our accommodation and tours…I can PM her details if you like? It's definitely more expensive than doing it yourself but you have the benefit of her local knowledge :)
    What I am wanting to ask people is what is the best way to use your money in Vietnam…ATM cards (which bank?), US dollars, travellers cheques?? I would appreciate any advice :)

    • +1

      Either US or AU dollars is fine over there. With cash, you always have the best rate at any jewellery shop. But if you are afraid of carrying too much cash, limited use of ATM is probably fine.

    • Yes please! That would be so great :)

      I know right! so many helpful people! its been awesome :D

  • +3
    1. Keep in mind that the people who work at the customs are all government related people, they rarely do ask for "coffee money" to westerners but if you are asian or speak vietnamese, visiting your hometown they will keep you waiting in queues unless you give them what they want.

    2. Don't carry so much cash when travelling, have a wallet or bag wrapped inside your body as the poor people of vietnam will mug you even on motorbikes. Never carry your phone out unless you're ina safe place.

    3. Get vaccinations from the doctor before travelling to Vietnam as you may eat the wrong food and are likely to have "diaherra"

    4. Kids or grown up go around to beg money where ever you are

    5. Don't stay in HCM too long, go on tours !

    6. Always drink water in bottles, not tapped water

    7. Refuse on fake taxis, only use Vinasun or Mai lin

    8. When crossing the road, walk slowly and the people on the road will avoid you

  • +1

    Can confirm, Nam Hai is absolutely AMAZING.

    HCMC is an awesome place to visit and walk around. Great cultural experience and in my view better than the other cities. Tons of markets and things to see. War Museum is very confronting.

  • +1

    I am one of those that loved Ho Chi Minh City. Then again I kinda enjoy the chaos and hustle of Asian cities.

    Be careful of motorbikes and scooters driving nearby if your walking on the street. My wife got her phone snatched from her hand by a drive by scooter on day one. Typical white girl moment though as she was holding it quite carelessly.

    You mention an over the shoulder bag, this may help but if someone drives past and grabs it, let them have it unless you want to injure yourself…I've heard stories.

    If you live in Melbourne, and want to arrange the Visa before you leave, go to a Vietnamese travel agent in Footscray (or any other suburb with high Vietnamese presence). They can do it for you, takes about a week. Cost me $85 going off memory 2 years ago. Not sure about other states, but I'm sure there are similar suburbs in Sydney for example.

    Not sure what sort of hotel your after in HCM but if your after something basic on the cheap, I can recommend this place. Its in the heart of District 1 though, so not sure if thats your thing as its quite a bustling area. I think it was roughly $40 a night.
    http://www.tripadvisor.com.au/Hotel_Review-g293925-d2218493-…

    How do you haggle with someone? And how do you know if they are ripping you off?

    Whatever price you negotiate, you will always be ripped off. They may look pissed off they've given you something at X price, but they always come out on top. Best you can do is get it down as cheap as you can. They do this everyday so don't fall for their charisma. But if you dont agree, just smile and walk off…no need to be rude like some other foriegners I see.

    Also if a coconut seller gives you his shoulder thing to take photos of…its a scam. Haha i fell for it, but looking back I admire the guys hustle

  • +1

    I recommend you get a Visa before you go to Vietnam, nothing worse then waiting in line for one. Just go to any asian travel agency, I got mine from St Albans $80

    June 2016? ( Summer in Vietnam and it is stinkinggggggg hot in HCM)

    nice beach? ( Da Nang ) which is in the middle of Hue and Ho Anh. You need to fly to Da Nang to get to Hoi An. I stayed at the HAGL plaza hotel its 5 stars.

    All ATMs dispense at most 2.5 Million dong ($150 AUD ) If you are in HCM there are a few ANZ atms which dispense 5 million dong.
    The best method is to bring your AUD into a jewellery store you get a better rate. I usually change 1000 AUD at a time.

    Nha Trang is a miserable place full of dodgy people and tourists.

    Vietnam is safe , Ill even dare say it is safer then Australia

    • +1

      diiitme said: Nha Trang is a miserable place full of dodgy people and tourists.

      Try getting outside of the 3 block tourist area.
      You do know there is a north side of the river where you rarely see tourists right?

  • +1

    The ozbargain way is to buy an online visa on arrival and use a coupon code for additional discount: https://www.google.com.au/#q=vietnam+visa+coupon+code
    That's what I did and it works.
    However for a honeymoon you might feel differently.

  • +1

    Bag snatching is pretty common, so I guess don't carry too much cash? If you must then use a wallet and keep it in your front pocket. In general just don't be too flashy i.e having your phone out all the time as it will attract the attention of thieves.

  • +1

    In Hoi An, at the new moon festival, my wife was carrying an over the shoulder handbag. When we got back to our hotel that night, she found that someone had neatly cut a square out of the side of her handbag and had taken her purse. Pretty impressive. Her passport was in the next compartment and was only there cos she needed to use it a few hours earlier.

  • +1

    PS Did you tell the travel agent that the trip is for your honeymoon? That might explain the prices.

  • +3

    I've been to Vietnam a few times, just some general tips:

    • Try to start your trip in Ho Chi Minh City instead of Hanoi, it's insane there (in a good way).
    • When in Ho Chi Minh, find a hotel within walking distance of Bui Vien street (District 1). This is where the night life happens every night & is very fun – I wouldn’t stay anywhere else (it is also walking distance to the main park & Cho Ben Thanh night markets).
    • When you arrive at the Vietnam airport, exchange a small amount of money for tipping & taxi fare. Tips between 20,000 & 50,000 dong are normal (50,000 = approx. $3). Exchanging your money at the many jewellery shops is safe & will get you a better exchange rate. Alternatively you can use the many ATMs to get local currency.
    • Buy & use a money pouch (wear close to your body), as you will be going into crowded areas where pick pockets do occur.
    • Do not wear any jewellery when you go outside – snatchings do occur.
    • When crossing roads, do what the locals do – traffic lights are generally optional there, however they are getting better in recent times. Cross the road at a constant pace & don’t do anything unpredictable – generally the motorbike will drive around you – cars & trucks on the other hand…
    • Taxis are so cheap in Vietnam, however only use a recognised company (Vinasun or Mailin) there are other companies who gauge & charge much higher rates. Always make sure the taxi’s meter is running & not turned off.
    • Do not go into any massage places! – no matter how up scale it looks, they all offer “extra” services (even hotel ones). If you want a massage, best to find an upmarket place where the massages happen in an open room with lots of people.
    • When hailing a taxi, never ask how much to get to a destination – always rely on the meter. If you ask & are given a price by the driver, you are expected to pay that price. This applies to taxis from the airports as well.

    Have fun :)

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      dojomojo said: Do not go into any massage places! – no matter how up scale it looks, they all offer “extra” services (even hotel ones).

      How would you know they all do it? You said yourself you have only been a few times and there are thousands of massage places in Vietnam, have you been to them all?

      • If you're going with your partner you should be fine. I went to several massage places in Vietnam with my boyfriend and had no problems at any of them.

  • +1

    I highly recommend staying at Essence Hoi An Hotel and Spa and Hanoi Elegance Emerald Hotel!

    Both owned by the same company. The best hotel stay I've ever had, the staff are amazing!!!

  • Make new friends ASAP. This not only saves you lots of otherwise time consuming problems but also make your trip fun. Vietnam is so crowded you can make friends about anywhere, anytime. Most of the time a friendly "Xin Chào" would just do the job.

  • +1

    As a native Vietnamese, my advice to you guys:

    • Use a fanny pack, handbags are 100% likely to get stolen, travel bags would also just get cut.
    • No separate line in custom.
    • If you get harassed for 'coffee money', straight out ask them to bugger off, always works.
    • Avoid dodgy looking taxis, safest line to book is Mai Linh.
    • 300 AUD a night is a pure rip off, a decent hotel would be roughly $50 a night. Re resort, Furama costs you about $350 a night.
    • If you pay more than $10 for a meal, you're getting ripped off.
    • Avoid street food, no matter how nice they smell.
    • Bring lots of sanitary wipes and stomach pills.
    • Haggle even in large shopping malls, they have outrageous mark up of ~250%. Just pretend to be really interested, then walk away when they refuse to cut down the price.
    • NEVER bring too much cash.
    • Try out local cuisines like Pho, Winter rolls, Vermicilli.

    And last but not least, have fun =) Vietnam is an unforgiving place for first timers, but it could be fun if you take precautions.

    • A fanny pack! Going to have to dig deep into the ol' wardrobe for that bad boy!

      thanks for the advice :)

    • +1

      How long have you not been back to vietname coz born and bred here:
      - you cant haggle in large shopping mall. Only applicable at place like benthanh market
      - you want to avoid street food - best part of vietnam - but dont want to pay more than 10 bucks. Do you live in the countryside?
      - 50$ a night hotel really depends on the location.

      This is me coming from one of the cheapest places in vietnam

  • +1

    we did a 5 week trip with our then 7 year old. My partner blogged the whole trip so its worth a look at this link

    http://www.travelpod.com/travel-blog/runes_journey/1/tpod.ht…

  • As a Vietnamese, I highly appreciated all below comments that you can obtain many tips and guides from them. Have a good trip!

  • +1

    Ticks for Visas and everything about handbags. Be sensible; everywhere in the world my wife likes me to walk on the 'outside' (ie, street side) of the footpath anyway. That goes for Vietnam too, but remember, there are scooters on the footpaths too!
    In HCMC, I recommend the Harmony Hotel in District 1, not the cheapest but the service is wonderful.
    Check the booking websites for good rates before you go, a lot of hotels are doing half their business through them these days and they can have good rates. Looks for their specials.
    When shopping, do haggle, the sellers expect it and build it into their margins. The general rule is, offer about half back in return and take it from there, and be prepared to walk away. Remember, the sellers do this every day and they have their bottom line, so do not treat it is a personal battle, it's just shopping!
    I agree with all the advice re bottled water. Be prepared to drink beer too, it's cheap and plentiful. Make sure it is served in sealed cans or bottles and be prepared, it is often poured over ice!
    Vietnamese wine is terrible and imported wines, even Aussie, are expensive, so wine drinkers may need to adapt! On the other hand, local vodka is pretty good and very cheap. Recommend Lua Moi.
    The other drink I like in Vietnam is sugar cane juice (which I think is called Nuoc Mia, apologies for my lousy Vietnamese!). Delish, not as sweet as you might think and very refreshing. Should be about 15k-20k dong.
    Ticks for street food, we love a banh mi and ban xeo, which is a seafood pancake. 'Chien' does not mean 'dog' like it does in French, it means 'fried'!
    The crossing the road thing… it's crazy but you get used to it. I learned this; often when you get a green light to cross, it does not mean that the traffic has a red — and if they have a red, it is often ignored.
    Change your money on the ground, rather than use a local bank before you go. Much better value and usually, no transaction fees, even at hotels.
    Take some small US notes, if you can get them without getting ripped off. If nothing else, the cafes at HCMC airport have all their price in US$ so they will come in handy when you come home. The food's not bad either!
    Here is my advice for Vietnam; let go and jump in. It's a little scary for us spoiled westerners at first, but embrace the chaos and all the crazy stuff. The food is stunning and the people are wonderful. What a country…

  • +1

    Firstly congratulations on the nuptials and great choice of honeymoon destination.

    You will love Vietnam - food is up there with the best on the planet.

    Not sure of the segregation or bribing at customs on entry. Never seen or heard of anything remotely like this. Visa very easy on entry (and cheaper)

    HCM is a wonderful city, busy yes but well worth 3-4 days. Highly recommend The Rex Hotel right in the heart of Saigon. It is a beautiful hotel and close to night markets and all the attractions. Ask at your hotel for the Jetboat (LesRives?)(ideal way to visit the Mekong Delta attractions) much better than hours on buses imo. Normal precautions re: personal safety apply in Vietnam as with anywhere else. Always keep an eye on smarttraveller.

    DaNang is worth a night or two but avoid the resorts at NhaTrang etc (may as well go to Qld) captive audience and priced accordingly. Hoi An is not only gorgeous to look at but a foodies paradise and boasts brilliant tailors. I have a suit (or 3) fully fitted every time I pass through.(pure wool/latest styles etc for a pittance) Agree with someone here do not stay on the beach - stay in town and visit either of the beaches. Taxis are cheap and safe.

    re: The north and Hanoi- Please don't believe stupid comments like "people in the south are friendlier than in the north" - Personally I find Vietnamese people warm, extremely generous and welcoming but that doesn't mean you won't find someone who doesn't fit the bill.
    When in Hanoi make sure you stay in the Old Quarter. The Oriental Garden is my fav. but the The Tyrant is nice also. At least 3-4 days in Hanoi.

    Don't go Halong Bay but do BaiTu long bay (next door) much better less touristy (and less tourists) Stay at least one night on a Junk (Dragon Pearl Cruises are excellent.

    Your itinery is incredibly expensive in my opinion. Worth trying (check out your hotels from TripAdvisor or Booking.com etc and see what you can put together yourself. Airfares seem cheap but look for internal flights as well with Skyscanner (search 'Whole Month' option to find price trends.)

    All of the foregoing is my humble opinion only. I love Vietnam, its people, food and culture.
    Have a wonderful time.
    Wayne

    • Thanks Wayne- very much appreciated :)

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