Ok Fallout 4 was released today, I've pre-ordered mine but can't pick it up till Thursday night shopping, im at work from 8am-5:30pm everyday =(
Tell us about your experiences playing it, did it live to the hype so far???
Fallout 4 out yo!
frostman on 10/11/2015 - 15:55
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Even after tinkering with the preferences, I'm still getting weird frame freezes every now and then when interactions occur. This is with an i5-4430, 12gb ram, r9 280x, ssd for the operating system and a separate ssd for the game. Drivers are up to date.
I have done everything that they talk about but these freezes are immersion breaking. My wife who is an absolute fan is still playing it, but what a joke of a release!
Ouch. Maybe that's just graphics card driver related? I've had issues with AMD cards and certain games in the past. I'm playing with all settings maxed out and getting
I've been lucky enough to have minimal issues with freezes so far. Just frustrating walking around and looking at textures close up and they look like garbage.
I'm still enjoying playing the game but it could have been a better experience.
Setup:
i7 4790K
Asus GTX 670 DC2T
16GB RAM
Game stored on SSDGetting ~40-45 fps @ 2560 x 1440 on Ultra with Gods Rays toned down and AA set at 8x.
Well today mine has suddenly smoothed out. It's not perfect by any means, but I have no idea what's happened.
Game is capped at 30fps? That's a lie (it's actually capped at 60 http://www.gamersnexus.net/gg/2178-remove-fallout-4-mouse-la…).
Photo you showed is of high or ultra textures? That's a lie. That photo is a badly scaled shot with no AA present and the textures are obviously not set to high (as you can see in my screengrab below).
Been getting ultra smooth 60fps gameplay and my textures look like this http://i.imgur.com/e5ihbd5.jpg (just took this screengrab myself when I saw your post). That's what ultra settings (apart from godrays and shadows) at 1440p on a 4670k with 970 looks like, and it looks awesome.
The rest of your complaints are subjective and I disagree with them all. After 10 hours of play I really like the pacing, think that the base building is awesome, I like the shift from having 100 different dialogue options to being more streamlined (more action less talk) and I think the crafting and power armour changes are a great direction to have taken.
FO3 was my best single player experience ever. I've got nearly 1000 hours of that game logged and if I wanted to play FO3 then I would go play that again, not want FO4 to be FO3 with a new skin.
This game will kill it in the reviews, and rightly so.
Someone just got friendzoned by Fallout 4.
I started playing it and it is amazing.. :)
After seeing all the complaints about slow delivery, delayed orders etc, I'm so glad I did the easy digital download per-order.
This dialogue system is awful. Who was asking for a voiced protagonist? Ditch that nonsense and go back to the old system, with more varied dialogue options and proper skill checks.
I was hoping for writing like New Vegas but I was clearly naive to do so.
The combat is fun but as mentioned above you need to do a lot of tweaks with the PC version.
I think this is the first sandbox game to actually have a voiced protagonist. At least, this is the first voiced protag in a Bethesda title.
I'm not sure what game you are all playing; but my (PC) Fallout 4 experience has been awesome so far! I'm about 5 hours in and experienced no lag, or glitches, graphics seem to be decent (Ultra), constant 60fps out-of-box, probably one of the smoothest games I've played in a while as there is no fluctuation in frame rates, customization seems to be quite broad and immersing.
I honestly have no quarrels to pick with the game; albeit I did not read into all the hype prior to its release; and just picked it up when I saw it was going for $59 from JB-Hi-Fi. Given there is a lot of negative feedback, lets hope that some patching might address some of the issues people are having and make the game even better? My perception may change in the next 5 hours of gameplay; but finding it pretty solid thus far while I'm exploring every crook and cranny for some bottlecaps and fusion cores for my power suit.
Still a good way to spend your time before Starwars Battlefront is out next week!
For nerds:
GPU - GTX780ti
RAM - 16GB G.Skill Ripjaws
CPU - i7 4790k 4.0GHZI was unable to install the game until this morning because I had gone over quota..
Just currently at the character creation stage, wife is the main gameplayer, and she's making a character in my visage. She just said out loud, "you have shifty eyes". wtf..everyone so obsessed with graphics nowdays
Why not? It can be a big part of immersion.
While I don't understand people who make it as if the graphics is the only aspect of gameplay (it might be because I actually play and love some of the old roguelike games), it is still a part of gameplay.
I've been watching some walkthrough gameplay on youtube, the graphics look incredibly bland. Its a bit hard to explain, it could just be the style of the game graphics? For example comparing to BF or something, the surroundings and character look chunky.
What you're looking at is graphics from Creation Engine which was first used to make Skyrim with (released in 2011), with similar texture sizing and overall image quality.
And the creation engine still has many bugs from its predecessor Gamebyro used in oblivion…..
I got mine yesterday but haven't opened it. Too tired to play when I got home.
Started playing last night. Running on PC on ultra mode and the graphics are pretty uninspiring. I guess that is what we get now in the console generation of games :( Played for about an hour but then got stuck where I couldn't move. Seems like still a few bugs to be worked out. If only they had spent that eextra money on dev/testing rather than marketing.
I've got the PC version and my Samsung galaxy S3 doesn't have the battery power to run the pip boy app for very long at all… Even when plugged in it drains the battery haha.
Struggling with the PC controls tho (building settlements etc) … It's definitely built for a controller!
Struggling with the PC controls tho (building settlements etc) … It's definitely built for a controller!
Thats plain stupid.
Any developer that starts developing games with the primary for controllers/consoles has lost my respect
Out of interest, why is that, because you're a PC gamer? I may be wrong, but aren't console sales still (just about) ahead of PC sales? Surely it makes sense that a cross platform game is developed with the leading platform in mind and then adapted for others. It's a shame that Bethesda has made a hash of the PC version though, I'm really enjoying it and think it's a great game at its core, I hate to think that people will have lost interest by the time all of the gripes are fixed.
I just +1 your comment, not because I support it. But because being -1 will make it hidden to most users unless they do the duty to un-hide it, so wanted to make sure our discussions are clearly visible.
Console sales are ahead of PC game sales NOT because console gaming is a better experience, it's due to demand.
You got over 1,000,000 kids under 16 playing CoD Online and so forth, do you think they all know how to put together a gaming system PC which will cost 4 times the price of a shitty console?
Point is, console sales are driven by demand, not by experience. This demand is supported by ease/convenience and affordability…not by actual experience.A game optimized for Consoles diminishes it's experience for PC gamers. i.e the 2 are mutually exclusive.
When a gold-rated game like Fallout leans towards consoles after an initial release (Fallout 2) on PC only, it goes to show who the developers are targeting for sales. As such, we (PC gamers) will give it an awful low score.
Other than 3rd person games like Tomb Raider, Gears of War and some sports games, the Consoles give an aweful gaming experience in anything FPS and/r RTS
When a gold-rated game like Fallout leans towards consoles after an initial release (Fallout 2) on PC only, it goes to show who the developers are targeting for sales. As such, we (PC gamers) will give it an awful low score.
Each to their own, I'll criticise a game for faults in the gameplay, graphics, controls or whatever, but I couldn't give less of a shit what platform it was initially developed for.
@tre180: he just finished criticizing it for the experience … but it's good to see that the art of taking something out of context is not dead.
Controls are easy for PC if you're used to playing any other games.
I do wish some of the keys could be rebound without having to resort to 3rd party software.
i.e. Scrap = R then I have to hit Enter to Confirm. Would be nice if you could just double tap R.
you can press R followed by E , instead of enter
It's not that great. 7 Years on from Fallout 3 and really Bethesda haven't improved it- the menu system is still slow and tedious, they gimped talking so it is buggy and annoying, the voice acting is pretty mediocre, you can't say no to quests, textures are utter trash, etc. But the town-building/economy aspect is great, which is nice. Overall it's a good game, just doesn't live up the insane hype.
It will be great in 3 months thanks to the modding community though.
I pre-ordered through JB deal on PS4 and Toll delivered Tuesday afternoon (in Perth), was surprised I got it on launch day to be honest.
I like the game, going to take me ages to get through the main quest, I search and pick up everything!
same…Search and pick up everything.. Do we need to transfer or use it ?
ITT (and all over the internet): People complaining because they got what they paid for - a pre-order/day 1 experience.
There is such a circlejerk of negativity surrounding this game.
There has been a massive movement for anti-preordering lately, but it seems these people went out and did exactly that - pre-order F4/purchase day 1 and are now complaining they got "burnt". Anyone familiar with Bethesda games will know their launches are generally shaky at best. I'm sure most of the technical issues will get ironed out soon enough, and as the negative circlejerk fades, this game will be viewed more positively.I do feel for those who have been burnt by sellers not getting your copies to you on time… that sucks :(
Can't speak for others but I purchased on day 1, then processed it for a refund 24hrs later.
pre ordered from gamesmen in september still havnt got my copy
same, not happy :(
i ordered on 9th Nov and received on 12th Nov.
apparently its being rode here by horse and saddle
must be very remote then..
@ozyboy: Well I'm not TAS remote :P but I guess SA is further away them many of the Melbourne.etc customers who have theirs already.
Edit: finally got the damn thing….I guess it will download while I'm at work :(
good luck mp3!!@Forfiet: that it is tbh tho i have received things from hong kong faster then this will be the last box copy i ever buy i just downloaded it and used a crack
@mp3police: lol, glad to hear you have it…..a near week after you were supposed to ;) I hope you enjoy it!
I still don't get it…how did Bethesda manage to release Skyrim on 1 DVD disc which obviously included a rather large integrated world + great gfx and textures. Yet F4, you need to install 40GB on top of the 4.5GB disc?
I thought people said it was ~25GB….
its 25 GB . 5 GB on disc and 20GB download. I did last night and finished install in less then 1 hour even i am on ADSL2+. and i never had buffer on Netflix too. :)
sadly my speed is crap…. oh well
It's only ~26GB.
Everyone is talking about this game? Is it a FPS like battlefield?
Back to the your question. I think it is most likely
1. Cost
Single DVD is cheaper to mass produce than dual layer dvd or blu rayor
2. they get as many important files as it could to fit onto a single layer DVD. While the dvds are being produced, the developer continues to work on the game ironing out bugs. Also less chance of pirating?I remember reading that it was to stop pirates (which I think is annoying because someone will always manage to pirate the game regardless of whether they do something like this, this will only result in the people who've bought the game for DVD angry and slight delay in pirated versions of the game). Just before anyone thinks I condone pirating, I don't. That's just how things were with DRMs and other means of stopping pirates, in most if, not all the games I've seen. They fail and sometimes they leave the people who bought the game worse off.
I simply don't understand/dislike the fact that they have used a method that makes the people who bought the game worse off.
Awesome game, have been playing every night and plan to continue. Looks like a lot of PC sooks here. I'm playing on PS4.
Way to show empathy.
OK, I finally got to play it and I could see why both sides of the people are arguing about how good/bad the game is.
In my opinion, the game is, great, despite all its flaws. I personally prefer roguelike games, RPG and I've played Fallout 2, 3, NV and now this.
I also own Wasteland 2, so that should say how much of a RPG lover I am.I do see the criticisms being true in many cases. The RPG elements have been dumbed down (the main problem I think is the protagonist not being the blank slate). The UX needs bit of work done to it (I hope for a FOSE release which tend to allow rebinding and stuff). Before anyone says anything about console stuff, I honestly don't care about the consoles, I am playing on PC and I simply found UX convoluted and bothersome for PC. Graphics, I play roguelikes (I personally recommend Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup), so I shouldn't be the judge of that. It runs fine on my PC though.
The big problem is the RPG stuff. Compared to F:NV, they've gotten rid of so much RPG elements and dumbed them down so much that it makes me sad a bit. Hardcore aspect allowed you to feel like you are a wonderer who were in a desert surviving (it was shallow, but mods were there). The faction system made you feel like it wasn't just an arbitary "do good because it is good", since the factions had good and bad sides as well (except Caesar's region), though I might wait till I get into the game more. Also the companions I found were more interesting in F:NV as well.
I personally like the new gun system a bit more + the way you have to tear everything down for material. I think it stops me from becoming filthy rich. I cannot sell a lot of guns because they are heavy and they now compete with junks that I never cared about. I get guns and I feel like I should tear it down for parts. So I am at a position where I should be looking at far more caps than measily 2,000 caps. That said, some hate the new settlement system and I think there is a valid reason behind it. If you don't get into it, it's a chore. If you get into it, it gives you a reason to explore (other than, I need 10,000 more caps or let's collect all the uniques).
All that said, is it a bad game? No. Definitely not. As a RPG, I can see why some people are angry about this game. That said, as a game in general, I personally like it. I think I liked NV more, that said, NV had mods and 5 DLCs when I started playing, so I'd wait till at least those things are available before I make a final judgment.
Interesting review…im playing it 2nite.
Nice, how did you find it? I looked at the review and I found the review to be split in the middle. Some people hate the changes and some people like the changes, not many middle men. It really reminded me of when Fallout 3 came out.
I don't know, I personally can see why the opinion is very split. I thought the game itself wasn't a bad one though, it'd be a decent base game for mods and DLCs.
http://www.highsnobiety.com/2015/11/13/fallout-4-review/?utm… - the good
http://www.thejimquisition.com/2015/11/metabombed-fallout-4-… - the bad
Overall still fun game to play, the dialogue system however does suck compared to fo:nv ,the inability to side with factions and the over-simplification of the rpg elements was a let down.
Does anyone know what the Cheapest CD key for fallout going around atm?
EB Games ;) They have the keys in the case on display and don't even care. It's a "management decision".
I think this is the cheapest so far…
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/220291Edit, sorry this was suppose to be posted in thread above…
Just thought I'd mention for the Pip Boy owners that the Telstra Tempo (ZTE T815) that's currently at $29 at BigW works and fits in the Pip Boy. If you have a Woolworths rewards card, chances are you have a $10 offer at BigW which brings it to $19.
Really regretting not pre-ordering this, since the cheapest price seems to be about $80 retail now. Anyone seen any sub-$60 online deals?
Yeah I pre-ordered it for $57 @ JB. Was the best $57 spent.
Now it's $79 and 3 months old!Also finished the game..9/10
For anyone reading this, EB games now has it for $55. Best authorized steam reseller price in Aus atm
Holy wall of text batman!
You do make some very valid points though. I've played about 10 hours so far.
Yes, you need to tinker with the preference files and tweak a few things to get the game functioning which is quite annoying to begin with. The game should be more polished for an AAA release.
Graphics are (profanity) horrendous. I try to overlook them and give them a break but it's really unacceptable. The quality of games coming out this year is great and in comparison make FO4 look even worse. Crappy animations that I would expect from a game that came out in the mid 2000s. Poor mouth animations that do really ruin the immersion within the game. Extremely poor textures - Bethesda shouldn't be so lazy and rely on the community to make their game look good.
I am enjoying playing it but it would of been so much better to have a higher set of standards to make this game an all time legend.