Does Anyone Know about Baby Night Feeding?

Narx on 11/03/2016 - 11:41
Last edited 11/03/2016 - 22:55

Hi guys. My baby is almost 1 year old and she still need night feeding. Many articles tell me to stop this, which is good for baby's growing and sleep. But the truth is she NEED it. Last night she ate 240ml mike at 1:00 am and slept until 8:00 am this morning. Her last meal was at 9:00 pm and fell asleep at 10:30 pm yesterday.

Does anyone have experience on it? I'm a bit confuse about what should I do. Keep the night feeding until she can sleep a whole night or stop the night milk and just let her cry to get used to it?

Thanks a lot.

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Comments

  • [Deactivated] on 11/03/2016 - 12:06
    +43

    My rule of thumb was that if the baby wants a feed - give it a feed.

    • bhm133 on 11/03/2016 - 14:03
      +5

      This exactly. Your daughter is hungry. Feed her.

    • m00c0w on 11/03/2016 - 19:22

      Uh no… By a year they should be able to sleep through the night without the dream feed. It's more to do with routines and how well you stick to them. Most cases you can shush then back to sleep, by giving them a feed at that time consistently they'll build an association of milk and sleep. This in turn won't teach them to put themselves to sleep.

      If in doubt chat with your maternal child care nurse and they can provide you with guidance.

      **how do I know? Parent of two toddlers under 4.

      • airzone on 12/03/2016 - 20:20
        +7

        "I did it this way, nothing bad happened, therefore it must be the right way"

        Your source, while fine for personal opinion and experience, is not the basis of any fact. Others have fed on demand and also have had favourable outcomes.

        **how do I know? Parent of 2 fed on demand kids who made it past that stage of life unscathed

        • So Was Red on 13/03/2016 - 17:56
          +1

          Yeah but moo correctly answered the question of asking for opinions from strangers on the internet, bonus points for suggesting contacting a maternal nurse too!

          Also, apparently I was not fed overnight after age 1 and it worked out alright
          **how do I know? I was a baby once.

        • andymatter on 14/03/2016 - 09:26
          +1

          @buttstuff: Yes, but Moo also told Emm that there opinion was incorrect.

        • airzone on 14/03/2016 - 10:13
          +3

          @andymatter: Yes, this is the real issue… Not that moo successfully raised her kids this way, but that she suggested that raising kids in another way is incorrect.

        • So Was Red on 14/03/2016 - 16:08

          @andymatter, @airzone: Oh true, I didn't read it that way at first, my bad

        • airzone on 14/03/2016 - 17:49
          +1

          @buttstuff: Heh, it's fine.. The missus used to come home cranky after going to mum's clubs with our first, basically because the parents were judgmental about everything including:
          - Brand / model / new or second hand status of pram e.g. -I- provide only bugaboo for my baby, you're a failure of a parent if you don't.
          - Style or brand of clothing used on bub e.g. -My- baby only wears certified organic cotton, you're a failure of a parent if yours doesn't.
          - Sleeping patterns e.g. -my- baby sleeps from 7pm to 7am since birth, you're a failure of a parent if yours doesn't.
          - Breast or bottle feeding… You can see some examples of that below in this thread.
          - Even the birth itself e.g. I had a natural home delivery without any pain killers, you're a failure of a parent if you didn't.
          You catch my drift..

          It's not really the sort of thing that you pick up on until you've had a kid and experienced the harsh judgement that can come from other parents that when determining & executing your own parenting style.

          I say parents above, but in reality it's 95% mothers.. I've not met many dads who really care about what other parents are doing.. But maybe because I am not a stay-at-home dad and therefore haven't hung out with others.

        • sal78 on 14/03/2016 - 17:51
          +1

          i think if thats what you did and u were fine with it then great for u. the op is asking for alternative solutions.

          iif i had a choice i wouldnt be doing that personally of if there was an alternative solution. its not just abt the baby but not feeding through the night makes life so much more easier.

        • spackbace on 14/03/2016 - 17:58

          @airzone:

          Just watched (again) last night What to Expect When You're Expecting - definitely covers that sort of judgy crap! :)

        • airzone on 14/03/2016 - 18:24

          @Spackbace: I might give that one a watch… lol.

        • spackbace on 14/03/2016 - 18:29

          @airzone:

          Netflix :) Not bad, even for us dads :) From reading your comment, you'll love the dad's group on there

      • syousef on 13/03/2016 - 20:12
        +5

        Wow people are completely irrational. This works for your child. It may not work for other children. In fact parents who think they have their act together are often shocked when a new child comes along and totally defies their previous experience. I know you're trying to help but by being prescriptive like this you may well be contributing negatively to a bad family situation.

        tl;dr not all kids are the same.

    • captobvious on 14/03/2016 - 22:39

      I have tizzy babies. they sleep from 7 to 7. since 1 year old.
      its great.

  • spackbace on 11/03/2016 - 12:10
    +4

    Hmm at a year old is strange, maybe it's your own routine that's messing with hers

    Ours has dinner when we do (~630-8pm, somewhere inbetween), then in bed by 730pm with a bottle, and she's down till around 9am

    But, they are all different.

    When you say 'meal' at 9pm, is that solids or the bottle? When does she have dinner and when do you try to put her down?

    • blitz on 11/03/2016 - 12:51
      +2

      Ours has dinner when we do (~630-8pm, somewhere inbetween), then in bed by 730pm with a bottle, and she's down till around 9am

      Exactly the same as us.

    • Narx on 11/03/2016 - 16:24

      Thank for reply.

      She often have meal at 6:30 pm with us, which is solid mixed with rice, pumpkin, fish and vegetable. And then at around 9:00-10:00 pm she will have 200-220ml formula. After that, 10:30-11:00 pm we put her to sleep. If we don't feed her during night time, she can't have a good sleep. Normally she will partially wake up at 2:00-3:00 and roll around the bed, from head of the bed to the end of it…

      Sometimes my wife still give breastmilk, but recently we change to formula which can make her have a deep sleep to 8:00-8:30 am of the second day.

      • spackbace on 11/03/2016 - 16:28
        +10

        That sounds like a bad routine, to not go down till 9/10pm is more like you're getting her to have your sleeping habits, rather than putting her down at a more reasonable time.
        Try bringing it earlier, she needs routine :)

        • Narx on 11/03/2016 - 16:52

          Thanks. I'll take your suggestions and try to make her sleep earlier.

          In fact, we used to put her down just after she have the milk at 9:00 pm. But she will keep playing and crawling unill 10:00 pm or later. -.-

      • meumax on 12/03/2016 - 07:20
        +5

        9-10 bed time doesn't sound right. At that age they need to sleep around 14-15 hours a day. So if they have 2 naps totalling 3 hours in the day then they need to sleep for 11-12 hours at night.

        When my son was that age I would put him to asleep around 7-7:30 and he wake at 6-6:30 the next day.

        1 years old was also around when I dropped all night feeding. It was hard at first because he cry a lot and you think they're hungry. But trust me, at that age they can go the whole night without food. I got him used to it with a common sleep training plan whefe you go and comfort them then leave. If they cry again you go bck and comfort them but each time you increase the length of time between visits. He soon got the idea that he couldn't summon me on demand with crying and learned to go back to sleep.

      • Ravensbane on 12/03/2016 - 17:03
        +2

        Definitely need to get her down earlier. I have a 7 month old and a near 2 year old and both are in bed at latest 8pm. And if it takes the wife or I lying with them in our bed to get them to sleep, and then moving them, then that is what we do.

      • sal78 on 14/03/2016 - 17:57

        rewind everything back 1 hr is better. start the day at 7am even is she's awake and in bed by 7pm. its the 7pm bed bus rule i learnt. babies sleep 40mins rem sleep and i think 1.5hrs deep sleep. 7pm works the best.

        so long ago but i did feed play sleep. feed milk as soon as they wake up. dinner 5:30pm. play. and bath bottle bed by 7pm. we did bath milk bed from birth. its their queue to wind down n get ready for bed.

  • [Deactivated] on 11/03/2016 - 12:21
    +5

    Formula or breastmilk? Breastmilk is digested very quickly so babies fed breastmilk can often require frequent feeds, even at an older age.

    I know that it is perfectly normal to still need night feeds at 1yo when breastfeeding. My girls weren't ready to night wean until they were 2.

    I'm not 100% sure if it's the same for formula (don't have any experience with it sorry) but it wouldn't surprise me if some children weren't ready to go without a bottle overnight - that's a long time to go between meals at a young age. Either way a 7hr solid stretch (1am to 8am) is a good, long stretch of sleep.

    The one thing I do know is that they greatly discourage leaving a baby with a bottle in their cot to go to sleep with, as the milk can pool in their mouth and can rot their teeth. This applies to both breastmilk and formula fed from a bottle.

    So, I personally would keep giving the bottle if it seems like baby needs it, because they probably do. I would just be feeding before putting them back to bed rather than giving them a bottle in the cot to help them re-settle (not sure if that's what you do or not, just saying in general).

    • Narx on 11/03/2016 - 16:44

      Thank you.

      Yes, most of them discourage night feeding cause it will harm children's teeth and may over-feeding. But for my girl, she looks like really need it.

      So this is what I am worry about. If I don't give her the milk, she would be sleepless that degrade her growing. And if I feed her, she can have long sleep but it is said to be not good by some articles.

      • sal78 on 14/03/2016 - 18:00

        nope it wont stop her growing. its a habit so it will take her a few nights to get used to the new routine. thats why it's do much easier just yo do it from birth. no tears and no re-training.

  • geek001 on 11/03/2016 - 12:58
    +2

    Does your baby take 3 hour naps in the day time? Cos sleeping at 10.30pm seems a bit late to me. I think your situation sounded like my experience when my son was at that age. I would feed him at midnight and then go to bed. My wife would go to sleep at 8.30pm after feeding him and wake up at 6-7am to do the next feed.

    I think you should feed the baby if she NEEDs it. Afterall, her stomach is pretty small at that age.

    • Narx on 11/03/2016 - 17:08

      Yes, exactly 3 hours!
      OK, I'll try to make her sleep earlier. 10:30 pm is too late indeed.

      • sal78 on 14/03/2016 - 18:01

        try 2hrs. start waking her after 2hrs. sleep, feed everything is new to a baby n needs to be taught. 😄

  • mskeggs on 11/03/2016 - 13:18
    +2

    This 1-yro is eating and sleeping normally, within the range of normal.
    You might try and get her to bed earlier if it is a benefit to you - I found my kids sleep better if they go to sleep earlier.

    • bhm133 on 11/03/2016 - 14:07
      +3

      Yep. Sleep promotes more sleep. Minimise stimulation around 6pm. No TV! Books are good, but no running around. Our routine has been pack up around 5.30. Dinner, bath, brush teeth (yes, even at this age) and in the bedroom. A book or two. A cuddle and down to sleep. Build a routine and the baby will slowly fall in line with you. Our daughter is 2 and a half and she has been following her routine since she was 9 or 10 months old. Persevere and don't give up.

      • Narx on 11/03/2016 - 21:48
        +1

        Thanks mate.
        Usually, she will have a nap after the meal at 6:30 pm, but certainly will wake up after 1 hour around 8:00 pm. Then she will take 200ml formula around 9:00 pm. Then, go to sleep at 9:30-10:00 pm.
        We try to make her sleep longer during her first nap, but fail.:(

        • bhm133 on 11/03/2016 - 23:25
          +1

          Keep at it. Your little one will dictate what she wants. Just keep reassuring her you are nearby. Keep the room dark and if it helps play soft music. Tesillian helped us a lot when our daughter wasnt sleeping. They have a sleep school that teaches a lot about training kids to sleep. Great for mums to connect too.

          In the meantime keep feeding and stay in there. Do what you can to survive and then think of strategies that could work for your daughter. Every child is different and there is no hard and fast rule no matter what anyone tells you.

          Having my daughter is the best thing that could ever have happened to me.

      • syousef on 13/03/2016 - 20:14
        -1

        Some kids need a lot less sleep than others and if you force it they'll wake up at 3am.

  • clarebear on 11/03/2016 - 13:26

    Most nights my 7month old sleeps 7:30-6:30, if he wakes during the night (crying) he doesn't get a bottle I just keep giving him a dummy maybe even a toy. After a few minutes at most he is back to sleep. I won't attend to him if he is just awake and playing he has to be crying before I go into his room.

    Sometimes even just turning on the monitor music works. He is formula fed though if that changes anything. Very rarely would he sleep from 5 or 6 but if that happens I consider the times and I might give him a midnight bottle but that doesn't happen much.

    • Narx on 11/03/2016 - 21:56

      My girl will wake up and cry loudly…So should I just pacify her and wait until she fall asleep again?

      • ytm on 12/03/2016 - 09:17
        +1

        She is waking up due to her routine. You have to change the routine. But in changing that you will have the transition period where there may be a lot of crying/waking up until she is settled in to her new routine.

  • shez1212 on 11/03/2016 - 14:27
    +1

    My 13month old still wakes up for a feed most nights once or twice. I'm always amazed how some kids can sleep 10+hours without waking up for a feed and still have naps during the day.

    I would say just do whatever it takes to get your baby to sleep at night. If it wants to feed then let it feed.

    • Narx on 11/03/2016 - 22:07
      +1

      Yes that's what I suprise too.
      I used to think she just need senses of comfort and security when she wake up. But looks like it is not the all cause everytime she wake up, she is truly hungry， drink 240ml formula and won't last a drop.

      • red-hot on 14/03/2016 - 11:55

        Maybe a growth spurt, & needs more energy.

  • tomleonhart on 11/03/2016 - 16:11

    my 18 months old still wake up twice a night. The only way we can get her to go back to sleep is to breastfeed her :(

    • red-hot on 11/03/2016 - 17:01

      That is a bad habit, that she will demand to be continued, until you 2 put a stop to it. How long are you going to let that continue?
      It's not hunger/thirst.

      • tomleonhart on 11/03/2016 - 17:09

        I know it's bad habit we tried to put a stop to it by letting her cry it out. I tried to put her back to sleep by Rocking her as well but she just cries until she throws up. By the fourth time she threw up we couldn't just continue using the ignoring method.

        Any suggestion ?

        • geek001 on 11/03/2016 - 17:39
          +9

          I have one. You do what you think is best. My eldest son was very difficult at night as well since he was born. Everyone around us was telling us to do this and that, but my wife and I decided to change our sleep patterns to accommodate this, cos nothing else worked. It was either that or we both go insane from the lack of sleep.

          Eventually at about 26 months, I guess his stomach grew big enough for him to sleep through the night. :)

        • tomleonhart on 11/03/2016 - 17:42

          @geek001: something to look forward to then. I missed my 8 hours sleep 😢

        • geek001 on 11/03/2016 - 17:55
          +1

          @tomleonhart: Like I tell all my friends with small babies.. It is hard in the beginning, but it does get easier and more fun as they grow up and get more interactive.

        • Narx on 11/03/2016 - 22:19
          -7

          Oh that's poor, hug hug.
          I think you could use formula instead of breastmilk as breastmilk does not contain enough nutrition that will get starve quickly.

        • bhm133 on 11/03/2016 - 23:28
          +2

          Stop ignoring. If your child is so upset they spew they are giving you a big message. You need to be there more. Take them to bed with you if you are exhausted. Sleep sitting up on the sofa if need be. It is hard but keep at it. It does get easier.

        • andymatter on 14/03/2016 - 09:32

          @Narx: What do you base this on??

        • sal78 on 14/03/2016 - 18:04

          @tomleonhart: 😞 it will pass eventually

      • syousef on 13/03/2016 - 20:14

        You most certainly don't know enough about the situation or this child to tell another parent that this is a bad habit.

        • bhm133 on 14/03/2016 - 08:03

          I've just read your comments in this thread. You sound angry.

          Everyone is here to help and give advice based on their experiences and on how much knowledge they have of the poster's situation.

        • syousef on 14/03/2016 - 10:19
          +2

          @bhm133:

          Yeah I guess I am angry. Where do you think post-natal depression comes from? When a parent isn't coping and people use judgemental language it can push them over the edge. Mothers with a lot less support in poorer countries can actually cope better.

          Don't tell a parent how it has to be or that what they are doing is wrong. Instead offer suggestions.
          "Have you tried setting a routine?" not "That is a bad habbit".
          "I know it's not your first instinct but have you tried letting the baby cry it out?" not "You shouldn't settle the child so much".

          The first kind of comment is helpful. The second can contribute to a deterioration in mental health for a vulnerable mother.

        • bhm133 on 14/03/2016 - 13:33
          +1

          @syousef:
          I see what you mean. Really good points. Post-natal depression is a really underrated illness/sickness/issue/problem (choose/substitute as you feel). Forums where people talk about what they do are really helpful and along with other support services available in Australia makes for a decent amount of support. As you mentioned before in a post, each child is different. What helped me as a parent was taking on board what everyone said (whether right or wrong) from forums, professionals and family, and seeing where that fits with our child. So far so good, but a hell of a ride.

          Unfortunately, "good enough parenting" gets a bad rap and many people feel they need to be perfect with their child. Some parents feel a pressure that if they get it wrong now, their child's life will be damaged forever. Shame really. Back to your point; yes we need to be more supportive/understanding and heaps of people in this forum are well intentioned even if it comes out wrong.

        • sal78 on 14/03/2016 - 18:10
          +1

          @syousef: it's just a play on words but we all mean well for the op. i think op can see that even if you cannot.

          the whole situation is the cause of pnd. if can cope then dont need to seek help right? best way to avoid pnd is to get a good nights sleep every night. this was my main concern. i did so much research and educated myself before my first child was born. i didnt know if it would work and was shocked when he slept through. i was proactive mum, ready to feed and waiting for him to wake up. the one time i overslept and freaked out, he was fast asleep. i waited for him to wake up and ended up falling asleep next to his cot. then i heard him cooing and it was 7am.. so happy n not waking up crying for a bottle. 7.5 weeks old.

    • spackbace on 11/03/2016 - 17:10
      +1

      Maybe she's not feeding enough from the first feed? Has the Mrs tried expressing to bottle feed, work out what she's drinking?

      • tomleonhart on 11/03/2016 - 17:14

        She doesn't drink milk no matter what we tried. The best we can get into her is 100ml per night before sleep. And will take an hour to finish it. Just constantly rejecting the bottle. :-(

        • red-hot on 11/03/2016 - 17:15

          Is she well?

        • tomleonhart on 11/03/2016 - 17:20

          @red-hot: very well. Very active during daytime, growing still falls inline with the chart. Just doesn't sleep through the night. Do our heads in.

        • red-hot on 11/03/2016 - 17:23
          +1

          Have you had her tested for lactose intolerance?

        • tomleonhart on 11/03/2016 - 17:27

          @red-hot: hmm I haven't. I shall try that however I doubt that's the case.

          She still drinks out of a cup with a straw. Just very slowly. And have plenty of yogurt as well.

        • spackbace on 11/03/2016 - 17:38
          +1

          Try different tops to the bottle, see what works. Also make sure it's the right number for her age. Some let the milk out more than others (as they grow they obviously are able to drink faster).
          But definitely try different bottles :)

        • tomleonhart on 11/03/2016 - 17:41

          @Spackbace: thanks for the suggestion matey :P she just doesn't like the bottle !!!

        • red-hot on 11/03/2016 - 17:49

          @tomleonhart:
          she just doesn't like the bottle

          then, let the bottle go. She can drink from a cup & straw.

        • spackbace on 11/03/2016 - 17:59
          +4

          @tomleonhart:

          Not necessarily, ours had the same thing, thought it would be so hard to go from boob to bottle with her. Tried a few different ones and 1 day the stars aligned and she lay there, held it and drank! Best thing is if you feed it to her when the Mrs is no where to be seen! If baby sees or smells those boobs, you'll have no chance giving her the bottle!

        • red-hot on 11/03/2016 - 18:12

          @Spackbace: the stars aligned

          LOL

        • tomleonhart on 11/03/2016 - 18:30
          +1

          @Spackbace: lol… I reckon that's why she probably can smell her mum boobs from across the galaxy :P

        • Narx on 11/03/2016 - 22:28
          +1

          @tomleonhart: LOL… Another way to turn to bottle is that you could put some mother's milk on the nipple to attract her. And make her hungry enough that she will eat whatever close to her mouth. (That's what I did before. :P)

        • Hiroko on 12/03/2016 - 22:36

          throwing up and bottle adversion…
          could be signs of minor silent reflux?
          have you seen a pediatrician?

        • tomleonhart on 12/03/2016 - 23:19
          +1

          @Hiroko: yah. they said some babies just don't like bottle. And she doesn't throw up when she drinks, she throws up because she gets no attention at night.

        • lgacb08 on 13/03/2016 - 11:19
          +1

          @Hiroko: nah, that's just normal. Babies breastfed exclusively tends to hate bottle, and some will have tendency to throw up if crying excessively, my daughter was one of those, there was a time she threw up every second night in the week. She frequently had a nightmare and woke up crying then you knew you have to get the cup ready (in fact there's one always on the bedside table). We even managed to keep the bed sheet clean when she did that. She is now over 3 and that has reduced to about once a month or two and we finally can leave her throwing tantrum as she wish. Her brother didn't have that and we could let him cried for 15 min until he fell asleep, and he was even skinnier than the girl despite not having to throw up his entire dinner even once. You just have to live with it.

  • [Deactivated] on 11/03/2016 - 18:13
    +13

    I'm 30 and still feel hungry at night.

    • Narx on 11/03/2016 - 22:32

      Oh man you make me laugh n fall off the chair! LOL

  • pointless martyr on 11/03/2016 - 18:34

    I can see why you asked this question on ozbargain - so many babies around here - who tattle and cry to the mods when they find that they are losing arguments they often started

    • tomleonhart on 11/03/2016 - 18:38

      Don't talk about me like that 😁

    • Maz1 on 11/03/2016 - 20:47
      +3

      Still living up to the name ;)

  • Baubles on 11/03/2016 - 18:48
    +3

    They're all different, but if she's crying until she's sick if you don't feed her, and going back to sleep if you do, then I'd feed her. I had one who fed through the night to over 18 months, and one who slept through the night from very early on. Both breastfed, both in similar routines. My night waker got to a point where she could be comforted back to sleep without a feed, and started sleeping longer- but yours sounds like she's getting too upset, still.

    It might be part comfort and part hunger, but that's normal too. If she's happy, growing and generally mostly content, then feed her. Before you know it, she'll be all grown up and you'll wonder where those sleepless nights went- hard when you're going through it, though, and you can't remember what it feels like to be a fully functioning human; maybe try taking it in turns getting up to her so the other can sleep… Good luck :)

    • Narx on 11/03/2016 - 22:51

      True mate. I almost forget those days I holding her all-night-long to make her sleep.
      I'll keep trying to let her sleep whole night but will follow her routine also.

    • bhm133 on 11/03/2016 - 23:29

      Good advice.

  • DoddLad101 on 11/03/2016 - 19:00

    Wow dat grammar tho

    • Narx on 11/03/2016 - 22:58

      Ha sorry. I was sleepless and got headache these days.

  • whitewatermelon on 11/03/2016 - 19:21
    +2

    What I did with my firstborn when I wanted to cut out the night feed, was slowly cut down the amount he was fed. Eg. In our case he was breastfed, & took 40mins. So I cut it down to 30mins, kept that for a week, then 20mins for a week, then 10mins for a week, then 5mins for a week. Then he just didn't bother waking up fot a feed anymore. In your case, I would try reducing the amount in the bottle.
    It may or may not work. Both our kids were routine fed, so before they slept through, they were having dinner with us at 6pm, milk at 7pm, put them to bed. Then they would have a feed at 10.30pm (in the dark, then straight back to bed), then whatever time they woke (sometimes once, sometimes twice, but again, kept them in the dark, and went straight back to bed).
    Whatever you try, good luck.

    • masadav on 11/03/2016 - 20:49
      +1

      This is what worked for us also. Routine is important, it's hard work but you have to persist and it pays off in the long run. And just when you think you're on top of it they start teething and throws the whole routine out.

      Mine is having dinner at about 5:30, milk at 6:30 and then bed at 7. Sometimes falls asleep straight away, sometimes takes an hour to settle, usually sleeps through and wakes at about 7am. But had a lot of broken nights to get there.

  • LittleKatie on 11/03/2016 - 21:55

    For our child we cut out the dream feed at 7 months as sleep promotes sleep.
    Our routine was:
    6.00pm - feed solids
    6.45pm - bath
    7.30pm - 150ml bottle
    8.00pm - sleep
    7.00am - wake
    7.30am - bottle
    8.30am - feed solids

    Consult your doctor.

    • Narx on 11/03/2016 - 22:42

      Our child is,
      7:30-8:00 am - wake up & drink water
      9:00 am - 210ml formula
      10:30 am - fruit
      0:30 pm - solid
      1:00-2:30 pm - sleep
      3:30 pm - 210ml formula
      5:00 pm - bath
      6:30 pm - solid
      7:00-8:00 pm - sleep
      9:30 pm - 210 formula
      10:30 pm - sleep
      May have one night feed or rolling until wake up.

      • LittleKatie on 12/03/2016 - 00:26

        We do 4 bottles of 150ml - 7.30, 11.30, 3.30, 7.30
        We also aim for three naps during the day around 10am, 1pm and 4pm. Naps can vary from 20mins to 1hr. Sometimes they don't sleep but still have them in the cot.
        I thought if they slept too much during the day they wouldn't sleep at night but it has the opposite effect - sleep does promote sleep.
        Maybe try doing dinner, then having their bath, followed immediately by a bottle and reading a book. Might settle them better for a good night's sleep.

        Found the book called Baby Love to be very helpful with setting a good routine.

      • longan on 13/03/2016 - 09:05

        I think sleeping at 1030 is rather late for a year old. Is she sleep trained yet? What I found works for both of my kids is proper routine of eat, play, sleep. Feed them as soon as they woke up (milk, solid) and off to play until they are tired, then bed. Is she dependent on you to fall asleep ie you have to tap her, or be there for her? By the look of her sleep patterns, she had two naps lasting one and half hour or less each which I reckon is not good enough. Did she wake up happy after naps or cranky? After 8 months old, they don't need night feeding anymore. If they are still up, probably you should try to settle her any other way than feeding. If she is thirsty, water can be given.

        I had this trouble with my first, so believe me I know it's exhausting. But kids need our help, even for sleeping.

      • sal78 on 14/03/2016 - 18:15

        just need to squueze in another 210ml before 7pm of increase the 2 feeds to 300ml.

  • icyprincess on 11/03/2016 - 23:33
    +1

    Some babies sleep through, some babies do not. I'm a lucky one with my son who sleeps through. That started around 1.5y though. However in my mums group there are quite a few kids who don't. Ranging from 4y to 6m.
    Listen to your instincts. If you think she needs the bottle, then give it to her. You can also try to slowly dilute it until it's just water. She might then not bother.
    Parenting is hard. Parenting without sleep is harder. She is a normal baby.

  • Euphemistic on 12/03/2016 - 08:38

    All babies are different. We've been through three, all a bit different in their own ways. The second gave up day sleeps from around 7months or something, but he did sleep through the night mostly from then. Day sleeps are good for parent who want to get a break or some stuff done, but not as good for getting the Bub to sleep through the night, or go to bed early.

    There are plenty of good tips above. My tip is that a baby's routine can be shifted, but you might have a tough few weeks to get it to change. Continuing something like a night feed because the baby wants it isn't always the best option and it is possible the baby wants company rather than a feed.

    We went through a few phases of struggling to get enough night time sleep, but came out the other side (eventually). Mostly that was us bringing the Bub into bed with us to get him to go back to sleep, but at the expense of not sleeping ourselves due to being kicked, hit and generally not getting our own bed space. Putting up with some extra crying for a few nights (2 weeks is a few isn't it?) was worth it to get them to settle back to sleep in their own bed was worth it, even if it meant the struggle of a crying child in the middle of the cold night for an hour or more.

  • bdl on 12/03/2016 - 08:48
    +2

    Damn baby is Brodening all the milk

  • Conka on 12/03/2016 - 08:59

    Might I suggest a book? Save Our Sleep by Tizzie Hall

    We found it very handy for getting baby and mum/dad into a routine - if that's your thing - and it also provides good advice (in our opinion) for moving kids through the early years re eating/sleeping etc.

    If that doesn't float your boat, MsKeggs comment "earlier sleep" sounds like a good start.

    • airzone on 12/03/2016 - 19:52
      +1

      Controversial book if I recall… Could get you burned at the stake in some circles lol.

      • [Deactivated] on 14/03/2016 - 23:13

        Yeah…I've witnessed a burning! Some groups are VERY against that book.

        I've heard some terrible things about that book. Never read it myself. I often see people suggesting "The no-cry sleep solution" by Elizabeth Pantly in it's place. Again, haven't read it, but it's another one to look into (am sure there will be no shortage of opinions and reviews of these books online!)

    • Narx on 13/03/2016 - 23:19
      +1

      I read many comments of this book. The rating of it is so high.
      It looks like I should get one. Thx!

  • birdmaster on 12/03/2016 - 10:20

    Well All babies are different and none of them comes with a manual. So possible all the suggestions may not work and may be one of two of them work. Some babies get more hungry at night some at day. Some have really good digestive system and some don't. Some have constipation. My 1 year old is so tuff she used to had very little sleep at day and night even some times she used to get no nap for at least 12 hours or more. No matter what we do, tried doctors, panadol, gas medicines and any other suggestion possibly can have but no luck. She just recently adopted a good sleeping habit once she had half of her tooth out at same time with in 7 days. She got them out all together but she was in fever all these days. was at doctor most of the days but doctor was no need to worry she is perfectly normal. Just keep her hydrated. my both babies having night feed and my elder one is 3 and half and she still takes 2 bottles before sleep and one early morning at 6am. She is having perfect teeth and her height is better than average and she is taller than most in her age.

    Another point is my Elder one started walking at 8 months age and my younger is still not walking without support even she is 14months old. My Elder one got her all tooth out before she turned 1 and younger one didn't get single tooth out until she turned 13th month and than she got 5 tooth out within 1 week.

    So all the babies are different and we don't need to worry if they doing something different. We just need to give our 100% when around the baby and try to sense and feel what baby is really feeling and telling us. Like they feel change in temperature very quickly comparatively grown ups. So we always need to keep an eye on temperature. We need to keep them hydrated so often.

    When they cry and don't stop there is 6 point rule we need to check first. Are they hungry, Are they sleepy, is their diaper wet, are they feeling cold, are they having rashes, are they having stomach ache(which could be because of constipation or gas).

    Well that is my experience and i say every body face different situation.

    Only one thing is some times we feel lazy and try to give some time before doing things like changing babies diapers or feeding them that might be big thing for babies as they feel hungry quickly and their hunger is unbearable for them. and if we don't change diapers on time they get rashes quickly. So don't be ever lazy otherwise you will feel this for couple of days as babies gets rashes and then they day don't stop crying no matter what.

  • Birchy on 12/03/2016 - 11:36
    +4

    Don't feed them after midnight or they will turn into nasty little monsters and go on a rampage distroying your nieghbourhood

    • pointless martyr on 12/03/2016 - 14:43
      -2

      Isnt that smurfs you are thinking of?

      Like dont get your smurf wet or it it will multiply, and if it sees sunlight it turns into a pile of goo?

      • darkchoc on 13/03/2016 - 04:31
        +1

        Gremlins

    • KupoHo on 13/03/2016 - 00:36

      hrmmm…this explains SO much……>_<

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