Help choose between Nissan Qashqai and Peugeot 4008

Lpooh-bear on 16/04/2016 - 19:30
Last edited 16/04/2016 - 19:31

Hey guys,

Long time lurker, decided to create an account to consult with some of you guys before forking out dough for my first car.

With a budget of around 20K, narrowed it down to either of:
http://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/Peugeot-4008-2014/…
http://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/Nissan-QASHQAI-201…

The 4008 has 4WD (4X4 On Demand), with the switch of a dial, paddle shift, and keyless entry (am a sucker for tech!), though I found the Qashqai more responsive to drive.

I understand the 4008 is supposed to be a loaded/refined version of the ASX, which I wasn't a big fan of.

The Qashqai has run 40,00 kms, the dealers refuse to haggle at all, claiming nobody has it cheaper. They did bump it up by around 400 bucks in a week as well.

The Peugeot has run 19,00 kms, comes with a 175000 kms, 5 Year Protected Warranty (haven't clarified what that exactly means).

What would you guys suggest?

I think the Nissan would be more of a sensible buy, though the Peugeot offers some good features.

Or should I consider something else? Would prefer an SUV, though open to other suggestions.

Poll Options

  • 26
    Nissan Qashqai
  • 4
    Peugeot 4008
  • 28
    Are you crazy? Hit the comments for other suggestions!
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Comments

  • altomic on 16/04/2016 - 19:37

    is the peugeot dark blue?

    • pooh-bear on 16/04/2016 - 19:53

      Arctic Silver, more pics in the link.

      • altomic on 16/04/2016 - 21:03

        my motherinlaw had a dark blue one which she recently traded in (QLD). her husband is a vet (not animal Dr) and so doesn't pay sales tax so they upgrade every 2 years.

        their dark blue 4008 had very low KMs and was a great car. As you said, the 4008was based on the mitsubishi ASX which sound about correct as many of the physical items in the car e.g. electric window buttons, rear boot/door buttons, were the same as my 2013 Mitsubishi Outlander.

        Decent car.

        but an ASX. what's the comparison in price?

        • pooh-bear on 16/04/2016 - 21:59

          Ah, ok.
          Yeah, the fact that it is very much an ASX is what puts me off. The dealer can get it down to 23K,while the Qashqai would be 21.5K

        • altomic on 16/04/2016 - 22:16
          +1

          @pooh-bear: and if its like a mitsubishi 2013 outlander it will beep at you for everything - seat belt not connected, lights left on, exiting car whilst on with keys, steering wheel not locked, and a host of other alerts that annoy me.

          don't get me wrong, car is very good. but there are the little annoying things that obscure the larger awesome things - not enough storage areas, plastic bits e.g. around seat mounts which fall off. good things ->great fuel economy, huge space capacity, 7 seats, decent acceleration.

        • pooh-bear on 16/04/2016 - 22:37
          +1

          Thanks man, will keep that in mind.
          I feel like I can put up with those annoyances, and the interiors didn't put me off as much as in the ASX.

        • moonphase on 18/04/2016 - 12:19
          +1

          @altomic: Mithubishi sucks really…. only only fun part of them was when I used to like cars like Lancer Evolution series. Once you actually own and drive, you see a lots of things are not there as expected like Altomic said…

  • mskeggs on 16/04/2016 - 19:45
    +2

    Are you sure you want to spend so much money on cars that are going to be worth $5000 less in 12 months?
    There are many good options at half the price.
    BTW - how do you pronounce Qashqai

    • pooh-bear on 16/04/2016 - 19:51
      +1

      Was planning to buy new, thought this was quite a step down in itself :) What others would you suggest?
      'Cash-kye', at least to my knowledge.

      • mskeggs on 16/04/2016 - 20:30
        +1

        My first car was $1300, a 15yro commodore.
        I've had a new Audi, Peugeot and Astra (work cars) and a bunch of secondhand cars.
        I feel much better buying secondhand, so somebody else took the savage early years depreciation.
        Cars are almost all extremely reliable these days, so buying one that is 5 years old is quite reasonable if it has been properly maintained.
        It's a bit like video games. If you wait 12 months behind the cutting edge you can save lots of money as titles get discounted and graphics cards etc. come down in price.

        • altomic on 16/04/2016 - 20:53
          +1

          my first car was a 1975 toyota corona in 1991. it had been my mums and she upgraded and I needed a car. drove it until 1998 when the exhaust and gearbox crapped out. awesome car. every panel dinted and rusted. but it ran and ran and ran. took it 4 wheel driving, cross country, up to the snow. I do miss it. or maybe i just miss the simpler times of my life.

        • pooh-bear on 16/04/2016 - 22:28

          Ah, I get where you're coming from.
          But I doubt I would be able to research much into older cars to make sure I'm getting a good deal.
          And the need to reward myself for putting up with a pretty stressful job is getting the better of me :)

        • mskeggs on 17/04/2016 - 09:01
          +1

          @pooh-bear:
          Fair enough. Somebody has to pay the depreciation to keep me in inexpensive cars ;-)

          On your specific questions, we rented an ASX for a weekend. It was a bit bland, and the electronics seemed a generation or two behind current for plugging in I phones etc.
          It worked, but was clunky. Note it had better support for iPhone than android.
          I'm assuming stuff like this is the same on the Peugeot.

        • pooh-bear on 17/04/2016 - 09:47

          Lol!
          The Peugeot does have that dated look in the centre, but with the inclusion of dial near the arm rest and a much more 'sophisticated' looking steering block.

      • MasterScythe on 19/04/2016 - 10:05
        +1

        Yep, you know how hard it is to get an auto parts store to acknowledge what you want.

        CASH KAI, a what sir?

        SLAP!

  • oscargamer on 16/04/2016 - 19:57
    +1

    2014 Hyundai ix35 - heaps to choose from
    2014 Kia Sportage Si - 2 in QLD
    2015 Mazda CX3
    2015 Skoda Yeti….mwah ha ha ha
    2014 Rav4
    2014 Tiguan
    2012 CX5
    ?

    • pooh-bear on 16/04/2016 - 22:33

      What price range are you filtering for?
      Would love a CX3 (the HRV seems to be more roomy) , but that's closer and in most cars above 30K.

      • oscargamer on 17/04/2016 - 08:41

        your range
        you said $20k then linked cars between $20 and $25
        so all my suggestions are between $20k-$25k
        all autos, all 2l petrol, all in Qld

        • pooh-bear on 17/04/2016 - 09:43

          Ah, I sorted them in ascending order. Then started looking at ones in the 21-22K range, hoping I could negotiate it down to 20 :)
          The Peugeot was shown when I got into another place after test driving the Nissan.
          I'm checking out a Sportage this coming week, advertised for 25K. I did make it very clear that my budget is 20, they want me to test drive it anyways .

        • oscargamer on 17/04/2016 - 19:02

          @pooh-bear: if you can get a 14 Sportage for $20, PAY THEM ! (assuming everything else is ok and k's aren't too high and history is good etc…etc…etc…)

        • pooh-bear on 18/04/2016 - 15:34

          Nope, they aren't willing to to discount more than 200 bucks!
          How many kms should I give in to, I was think about 50,00 kms at max.

        • oscargamer on 18/04/2016 - 18:10
          +1

          @pooh-bear:

          any of these 3

          http://www.carsales.com.au/cars/results?silo=stock&q=%28%28%28%28%28Make{%3d}[Kia]%29{%26}%28Model{%3d}[Sportage]%29%29%26%28State{%3d}[Queensland]%29%29%26%28Service%3d[Carsales]%29%29%26%28%28Price%3drange[0..25000]%29%26%28Year%3drange[2014..]%29%29%29&vertical=car&WT.z_srchsrcx=makemodel&sortby=TopDeal

        • pooh-bear on 18/04/2016 - 19:48

          @oscargamer:
          Sweet!
          The Orange was the one I was talking about, that didn't work out. Enquired about the second one, the last one is manual.

  • sparkles on 16/04/2016 - 20:23
    +2

    I don't have any suggestions, but I vote neither. There has to be something out there in this price range that's going be better - better brand recognition, better resale value, better maintenance costs etc.

    • pooh-bear on 17/04/2016 - 09:44

      Camrys, Aurions?

      • PonyTable on 18/04/2016 - 18:46
        +1

        If you can handle not owning an SUV…Then yes, the Camry Altara S is a really nice vehicle - 4 cyl engine, but 2.5L pulling less weight than the modern SUV's (generally speaking). IMHO its a car that shouldn't cost too much in the future, as Toyota build quality is up the top of the list - of course there is extra savings to be had to buy one with a few more k's, and slightly older (from 2012 is the the nicer, less grandparenty shape) and right now there are lots available with a lot being ex-fleet/gov, that have had all scheduled servicing done by Toyota.

        The ones that are closer to 100kms can be had for around $15k and Manufacturer warranty is over or almost over (Both Time and Km's wise) - Consider timing chain, not belt, so should be no big surprise in the over 100k service, Lower k's, and younger year you approach the $17-18k mark. But that's still close to 5k to save for the next car or pallet of eneloops, or more responsibly for servicing, tyres, rego, insurance…The Altara S as it has the tech connectivty, Climate control, reverse camera and a nicer interior and body styling than than the base pack.

        We have a fleet of Toyota vans for work, they seem to be just solid workhorses that take a beating - in our experience anyway. For a first car, its the way I would go, also seem to have pretty good re-sale down the track - But you probably like SUV's!

        • pooh-bear on 18/04/2016 - 19:28
          +1

          I'm open to other suggestions, thank you for taking the time to respond in detail.
          Would prefer a SUV over a hatch at the same price. I've seen some Mazda 3s as well, which I was considering initially.

  • captobvious on 16/04/2016 - 20:36
    -1

    The Peugeot 4008 is very Mitsi, as you said.
    Better off with the mitsi for parts costs down the track

    How about a subaru XV?

    • pooh-bear on 16/04/2016 - 23:02

      Good point.
      XVs, haven't really found many.

    • BartholemewH on 17/04/2016 - 20:05
      +5

      Are you a male? Don't refer to them as Mitsi's IRL.

  • spackbace on 16/04/2016 - 21:49
    +2

    Do me a favour, test drive a Suzuki Vitara.

    $24,990 drive away but can be had for $24k. GPS, rear camera, climate control. 5yrs CPS and 5yrs warranty.

    Compared to the Nissan it'd be the better buy, but I'm biased :)

    • pooh-bear on 16/04/2016 - 23:04

      Was hoping to keep it to 20K, now it's slowly and steadily creeping up :P

      • spackbace on 16/04/2016 - 23:24

        It is, but you were already nearly there :P
        And that means brand new tyres etc.
        Also at 6L/100km and $249 CPS your cost of ownership should be less than the other 2

        • pooh-bear on 16/04/2016 - 23:26

          Lol!
          Looks like that's the 3 door 4WD?

        • spackbace on 17/04/2016 - 00:28

          @pooh-bear:

          No, the all new Vitara. Not the Grand Vitara

        • pooh-bear on 17/04/2016 - 09:49
          +1

          I'm sorry man, just can't convince myself that that's the car for the next 5 years or so :)
          The missus is vehemently against it as well.

        • RockyRaccoon on 17/04/2016 - 11:36

          @pooh-bear: Do yourself a favour check this site aboutv cost of ownership

          http://www.mynrma.com.au/mynrma/operating-costs-calculator.a…

          Yes its NSW but you can check relativity of the models you are considering.

          Friend has a 5 year old 4008 and happy with it, except depreciation and servicing costs which he finds is extremely high.

          If you check NRMA site you can confirm if this issue they have is just specific to them or to all 4008's (compared to other cars)

        • pooh-bear on 17/04/2016 - 16:54

          That is good info, will research further.

    • GameChanger on 17/04/2016 - 13:40
      +3

      Suzuki have some of the worst designs, the same with Nissan.

      The most under rated car is the Honda HR-V, which is the best designed and top Japanese brand.

      • spackbace on 17/04/2016 - 14:29
        +3

        Design and looks are subjective. Actually the new Vitara gets a lot of compliments.

        Honda HRV might look good in your opinion but it offers no advantages against the competition, hence no one's buying them

        oh and thanks for the negs!

        • GameChanger on 17/04/2016 - 14:47

          Honda Australia has some of the worst marketing.

          I don't see any Suzukis on the road either… Both brands don't do as well compared to Mazda and Hyundai.

          Honda is a premium brand that is very good priced as demand is low through their lack of marketing/features. Only reason to go for the Vitara is 5 year warranty which is great.

          And for transparency reasons I have neg you, as you have vested interest in Suzuki.

        • spackbace on 17/04/2016 - 14:54
          +1

          @GameChanger:

          And for transparency reasons I have neg you, as you have vested interest in Suzuki.

          That's nice you only just say that after I call you on it. At the end of my first comment I stated 'but I am biased'. While I don't need to explain my associations on every automotive forum post I comment on, it's becoming known what I do, whilst other members are able to post with anonymity, you neg me for suggesting the brand I sell in a totally different state?! Cmon…

          Advertising has nothing to do with anything here. The HRV offers up no advantages - not the best economy, not the best features, not the best size, not the best price. It's a master of nothing.

          The Vitara has been on the market for 6 months, in a car brand that has a relatively low market share, so of course you won't see many, if any on the road. That doesn't mean the car is bad, it means it hasn't been on the market long.
          Hell I also work for Holden, and you should see how many people buy a Trax without checking the competition. Another car which only has a price advantage over anything else.

        • GameChanger on 17/04/2016 - 15:09
          -1

          @Spackbace: When you recommend Suzuki you should make known your association. It's nice you said biased but they may be construed as a fan not a person who derives a wage from selling it.

          It's a master of engine, aesthetics and many other things. I never said it was a bad car, rather a brand that has lost the plot with design. The same can be said about Honda Jazz and Cr-V. The visual appearance is one of the most important aspects, I have never seen someone ask what's the 'economy' before looking at it visually.

          As to Holdens I will never recommend that crap to anyone, the Suzuki is miles ahead of any Holden.

        • pooh-bear on 18/04/2016 - 15:40

          I really do appreciate the feedback from both of you.
          Spackbace: I tried to like it, but I can't :)

          GameChanger: I do agree the HRV is awesome, but decided against going for new.

        • spackbace on 18/04/2016 - 15:41

          @pooh-bear:

          I tried to like it, but I can't :)

          All good, we all have our own things :) Hell some people even think the Nissan Juke actually looks good :P

        • pooh-bear on 18/04/2016 - 15:42
          +1

          @Spackbace:
          Lol, the missus and I refer to that one as a 'Joke'!

        • GameChanger on 18/04/2016 - 16:01

          @pooh-bear: Pooh-bear what car you plan on getting used? Stick to Japanese :)

        • PVA on 18/04/2016 - 16:06

          @Spackbace:

          I think some models of the Juke are good, depends on colours and wheels.

          Suzuki is the same, some just look plain others sporty. Always thought the suzukis were fun to drive - even back in the old two-stroke - something one of these http://www.shannons.com.au/club/enthusiasts/markoastler/gara… .
          There is no advertising for Suzuki, or very little, couldnt help with the sales.

        • spackbace on 18/04/2016 - 16:14

          @PVA:

          Yeah, there's no replacing the Jimny off-road that's for sure!

        • PVA on 18/04/2016 - 16:19

          @Spackbace:
          yep for sure. but going down hill on a road trying to get to 100km/h , that's scary :)

        • spackbace on 18/04/2016 - 16:19
          +1

          @PVA:

          Or trying to drive one when you're >6' tall ;)

        • pooh-bear on 19/04/2016 - 17:08

          @GameChanger:
          Yep, looking into more of them.

      • mousie on 17/04/2016 - 18:45
        +1

        Top choice for hrv :)

      • PVA on 18/04/2016 - 16:00

        hrv would be the worst looking out of all of them I think.
        And when I took one for a test, it was the most bland to drive - kinda boring. The suzuki was the most fun (I am talking 18 month ago) but was just a little too small, I thought fine, wife said no.

  • mousie on 17/04/2016 - 18:45
    +1

    I'd go japanese for total cost of ownership as although Peugeot are beautiful cars style wise, out of warranty parts and spares are very scarce and. Horrendously expensive.

    My recommendation is to review the sales figures for the class of car that you're looking for and choose either number one or two.

    Higher sales statistically means higher crashes and a larger pool of spare parts in the pool and larger market for non genuine spares.

    I'd consider a Honda osdyssey for this range.

    • BartholemewH on 17/04/2016 - 20:11
      +1

      I think it's safe to say you don't know who makes the 4008 and where.

      • PVA on 18/04/2016 - 16:08

        but a lot of body panels are not the same, so cost and insurance are still high.

  • [Deactivated] on 17/04/2016 - 19:24
    +1

    Can't find a CRV?

    • pooh-bear on 18/04/2016 - 15:37

      Not in that price, no.
      I remember seeing one that had run really long.

  • anonymous01 on 18/04/2016 - 09:40

    There's already too many 4wd's on the road :(.

    • pooh-bear on 18/04/2016 - 15:37

      I'm not really looking at 4WDs, did you mean SUVs?

  • tko6070 on 18/04/2016 - 17:21
    +1

    there's no fiscal responsibility in owning a European car in Australia. I'm sure it would feel great until the first service/ problem/ insurance renewal though, but it is really worth it?

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