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Stanley Fatmax 18V 2 Piece Drill Kit- $149 - Masters

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Stanley Fatmax 18V 2 Piece Drill Kit- $149 - Masters
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rav_stk on 22/04/2016 - 23:38 masters.com.au (4760 clicks)
Last edited 05/05/2016 - 16:22

Another deal from Masters. This set of drill have good reviews on the website and it was selling for $279 before. Seems good value at current price. Enjoy!

Description from masters website as below

Includes High performance 18v Li-Ion Compact Drill Driver FMC600D2
Includes High performance 18v Li-Ion Compact Impact Driver FMC645D2
Class leading weight compact size
Battery gauge display
LED light for dark areas
Pack includes: Drill Driver, Impact Driver, 2 x 2.0Ah Batteries, Charger and Carry Case

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  • hamwhisperer on 23/04/2016 - 00:13
    +1

    Anyone got any thoughts on these? I really wanted to wait for a ridiculous over the top super deal on some kinda 18v fancy Brushless thing with 2 decent batteries at a reasonable price.

    I actually don't need an impact driver and I'm still not sure I understand what they do (I know it has a non standard tip? It's like a tip like a screwdriver with adjustable end pieces has, right?)

    • Frozensage on 23/04/2016 - 00:17
      +8

      Impact driver is for driving screws(long) and the tapping action makes it easier to do the job than using a normal drill. And the fact you can drill and drive without having to keep switching heads makes it more efficient. Screws are usually less likely to be worn from the tapping action of the impact driver. It's one of those tools once you used it once you will love it but if you never have then you dunno what you are missing out on.

    • BlamJam on 23/04/2016 - 06:02
      +4

      I got this set a while back and have used them a fair bit alongside a similar spec Makita Drill/driver. Great value for money. Wish I'd had an impact driver earlier! The drill/driver is a fair bit shorter in length than my Mak and has been handy just for that.

      Using an impact driver for driving/removing screws has saved me heaps of time over using a drill driver.

      Bargain deal.

      • autocader on 23/04/2016 - 07:40
        +1

        Same here, although I'm pretty sure I only paid $120 for this set at Masters a couple of months ago.

    • random110 on 23/04/2016 - 08:33
      +1

      I bought a set a few months ago. They have been very impressive. They charge quickly, the metal chuck is nice and they have plenty of power.

      I would highly recommend. I'm just waiting for Masters to discount the other skins.

    • tanksinatra on 23/04/2016 - 08:48
      +2

      A tradie-spec brushless 2-piece kit will set you back ~$650, and these don't really come on special often. It would be extremely capable but difficult to compare to a $150 kit.

      • hamwhisperer on 23/04/2016 - 09:00

        Well I was thinking more like "good home spec brushless" not quite tradie spec.
        My arlec lasted 10 years and the battery died.
        My Bosch Green lasted 4 or 5 years, 1 battery died, then the chuck / barrel mechanism locked.

        I just want something to last 10 years again :/

        • tanksinatra on 23/04/2016 - 11:20

          Generally manufacturers only produce their top-tier tools in brushless form. 'home-spec' brushless doesn't really seem to exist, unless you go to DIY brands like Ozito or Ryobi.

        • freesteakknives on 24/04/2016 - 19:53

          Agree with megaphat, you really want to be driving a lot of screws to justify brushless

          http://www.popularmechanics.com/home/reviews/a8109/whats-so-…

        • hamwhisperer on 25/04/2016 - 13:34

          @megaphat: Cheers for that. I had several people say "Ozito really isn't that bad" - apparently Bunnings offer a 5 year warranty with the things too, which I found surprising. I'm still tempted by them.

        • hamwhisperer on 25/04/2016 - 13:35

          @freesteakknives: We're all nerds here though, if I can pay 30% more now, maybe 40% but it lasts over twice as long, that seems a wise move to me.

        • tanksinatra on 25/04/2016 - 16:14

          @hamwhisperer:
          The new brushless Ozito line looks interesting but still carries the usual "DIY use only" warning.

        • hamwhisperer on 25/04/2016 - 17:25

          @megaphat: I just saw that, the Power X Change? 18v Brushless for $99 with a 5 year warranty - but the buggers don't offer it in a kit with the charger / battery combo - so it works out to around $210 with a decent battery.

          I wonder if they'll combo it, Bunnings do OziTo specials right?

        • tanksinatra on 25/04/2016 - 18:40

          @hamwhisperer:
          Yeah it's way too pricey without a kit. I've seen a Bosch Blue brushed driver kit at Bunnings for less than that. Bunnings do have specials from time to time but this brushless Ozito gear is pretty new.

        • hamwhisperer on 25/04/2016 - 19:55

          @megaphat: I'll sit tight, I think this brushless Power X series is new, it'll go on sale here sooner or later.

        • freesteakknives on 27/04/2016 - 07:35

          @hamwhisperer:

          Perhaps, If I pay 30% more though I don't necessarily want my product to last 30% longer, I want it to work 30% better. If I buy better tyres I want them to grip better. They might even last less than a cheaper tyre.

        • hamwhisperer on 27/04/2016 - 11:03

          @freesteakknives: Reasonable I guess, but I want that long lasting time, if I want higher performance AND long lasting time, I'd go full tradie, $500 stuff.

          I'm just so tired of SO MANY products being either, utter cheap chinese garbage OR super expensive quality - the delta between the 2 is too high and the midrange is gone.

        • freesteakknives on 02/05/2016 - 20:25

          @hamwhisperer:

          True that, the midrange stuff on offer is not what it used to be..

    • smpantsonfire on 23/04/2016 - 11:31
      +4

      Once you get a Driver, you will be thinking 'why not sooner' and will have a 'I have made a mistake in life' moment.

      • hamwhisperer on 25/04/2016 - 13:36

        Explain why? I can't find a single solid thing on WHY it's so much better.
        Sidenote: Tired of finding good hammer drill deals but no clarification if hammer mode can be disabled (that's not a guarantee with a hammer drill is it?)

        Heck I imagine a decent hammer drill would be bloody hard to make in cordless anyhow.

        • smpantsonfire on 25/04/2016 - 15:26

          I wouldn't want to sound like an infomercial, but all my reasons begin with, "are you tired of", and then follow up with this amazing product that takes the work away and make life so much better.

    • groupwest on 25/04/2016 - 22:12

      Worx cordless drill in masters is brushless. 2 batteries too. 18 volt

      • hamwhisperer on 25/04/2016 - 23:33

        Is works kinda like Ozito?
        My only issue is Masters is gone soon right? How's the warranty?

        Looks like a 20v brushless with 2 batteries for $199 too.

  • noise36 on 23/04/2016 - 00:19
    +5

    This is very cheap for branded 18V drill driver and impact driver..

    When I was looking at ryobi and bosch they were $250 ish for similar.

  • atlas on 23/04/2016 - 01:13

    This or the Dewalt 14v?

    • cpho on 23/04/2016 - 01:36
      +1

      Both pretty similar but Stanley is 18V vs Dewalt 14V. Even then, unless you're a tradie, you probably wont even notice the difference.
      Both 3yr warranty, around same weight, they even look similar.
      The DeWalt is an older model, not the newer brush-less series, but it still has a better reputation.

      Toss a coin, really. Or personal preference. Go to Masters and see which one feels nicer in your hand.

      • Maverick-au on 23/04/2016 - 08:17
        +1

        The DeWalt is an older model, not the newer brush-less series, but it still has a better reputation.

        DeWalt hasn't replaced brushed models with brushless, they still have a lot of brushed equipment including drills and impact drivers. It's only the top of the range that typically has brushless.

    • AMLagonda on 23/04/2016 - 02:04
      +5

      lol this would win hands down!

      The non locking chuck is a bit of a downer for me but it would be a nice cheap backup :) can I resist the urge for this price?

      I already have the bosch kit http://www.bunnings.com.au/bosch-18v-2-x-1-5ah-cordless-dril… so this wouldnt be any better.

    • glengood on 23/04/2016 - 06:06
      +6

      I'd go with the Stanley :

      • 2ah batteries instead of 1.5ah
      • Higher torque (49Nm vs 38Nm for the drill, 180Nm vs 160Nm on the impact driver)
      • Metal chuck on the drill vs plastic
      • louuisc on 23/04/2016 - 16:30

        Would the 2ah battery make it last longer or not really due to being offset by the higher voltage/power

    • Duff5000 on 23/04/2016 - 09:20

      Thinking i should have got this now instead of the dewalt :(

    • tanksinatra on 23/04/2016 - 10:55
      +3

      Would go with the Stanley. DeWalt is a more premium brand but both are made by the same company, and 14.4v isn't exactly professional grade regardless of brand.
      The Stanley drill has about 30% more twisting force and the higher voltage means the Stanley has twice the battery capacity (18Wh vs 36Wh). The impact driver is also more powerful.

      The Fatmax series is also sold in stores outside of Masters and as Porter*Cable in the US. There is a reasonable selection of compatible skins available in the family. AFAIK the Dewalt 14.4v series is restricted to Masters.

  • BertieBrown on 23/04/2016 - 06:29
    +2

    The Stanley FatMax range is basically re-branded Porter*Cable from the US.

    Total Tools (among others) also sell Stanley FatMax, so shouldn't be issues there as far as spare batteries, which is a bonus if Masters are going.

    Porter*Cable have been around for years. I'm always envious when I look at US reno forums of the guys talking about them and not being able to get anything over here, but that's sort of changed now with the Stanley range.

    Seems like a pretty reasonable price, also seeing as the impact is rated at 180 NM, which is on the higher side for hex non brushless impact drivers.

  • sillyhead on 23/04/2016 - 07:48

    I got the impact driver only for $99 on another deal. It's very powerful but it's a shame it doesn't have a speed switch. When drilling into something light you have to be very careful not to send the screw through everything. Though I'm pretty sure most of these cheaper kits lack any adjustments in this regard. I would say for 2.0ah batts it's a good deal.

    • Maverick-au on 23/04/2016 - 08:28
      +5

      It's very powerful but it's a shame it doesn't have a speed switch. When drilling into something light you have to be very careful not to send the screw through everything.

      It has a variable speed trigger so the problem is with the operator not the tool..

      This isn't a replacement for a screwdriver either.

      • sillyhead on 23/04/2016 - 10:38

        the trigger is not very senstive, 1/10 of a depression is half speed, anything past that is full bore. Just gotta keep on your toes to avaiod drilling through a pailing…

        • Maverick-au on 23/04/2016 - 13:39

          the trigger is not very senstive, 1/10 of a depression is half speed, anything past that is full bore. Just gotta keep on your toes to avaiod drilling through a pailing…

          If you're playing with toy wood like pine you are better off using a drywall gun or a drywall bit for your impact driver or drill.

        • tanksinatra on 24/04/2016 - 11:01

          I find the trigger to be pretty sensitive. If you're careful with the trigger the bit will spin slowly and I haven't gone through anything yet. Perhaps your trigger is gummed up a bit?

          Speed selection would be useful for softer materials but I don't think you'll see it in an impact driver at this price point. Just another gearbox to fail imo.

    • louuisc on 23/04/2016 - 12:17

      Just wondering does the dewalt deal has a speed switch or not - I don't even know what the festure looks like just comparing deals ..

      • sillyhead on 23/04/2016 - 13:15

        From what i can see none of the budget non brushless ones have adjustable speed and torque settings. I guess If too much torque is a problem start sinking the screws with your drill driver instead. Its hard because once you get an impact driver like this its an addiction, just want to use it for everything. By the power of grayskull…

        • Maverick-au on 23/04/2016 - 13:40

          From what i can see none of the budget non brushless ones have adjustable speed and torque settings.

          Brushless has absolutely nothing to do with adjustable speed or torque.

        • sillyhead on 23/04/2016 - 14:26

          @Maverick-au:

          I'm aware of that maverick it's just I've noticed the brushless sets being the premium product they seem to have more features such as power settings and the like.

      • dwain on 23/04/2016 - 14:30

        yes just about every drill you can buy will have a high and low speed, and the trigger is variable speed.

        • louuisc on 23/04/2016 - 16:28

          Except this Stanley one according to the comment I was replying to? Hard to believe..

        • dwain on 23/04/2016 - 17:35

          @louuisc:

          i can see the gear selector on the top if the drill though.

        • Duff5000 on 23/04/2016 - 22:19
          +1

          @dwain:

          You are looking at the wrong item. The post was about the impact driver, not the drill.

        • dwain on 26/04/2016 - 12:03

          @Duff5000:
          Doh! Then I take back everything I said. You don't NEED multiple speeds on an impact driver, that's just a convenience added to high-end impact drivers in the last couple of years. People just need to practice and learn how to use the variable speed trigger. Experienced users can turn a phillips head screw very slowly. In fact I see electricians using single speed impact drivers all the time, when doing very fragile sort of work.

        • Duff5000 on 26/04/2016 - 13:21

          @dwain:

          Except they specifically tell you not to do that. Running at lower than full speed burns out the trigger (IIRC), you are only meant to do it to start a screw.

          Both impact drivers i have had have warnings about it. Edit: the dewalt said something about tool life being reduced, the other specifically said damage to the trigger.

        • dwain on 09/05/2016 - 14:48

          @Duff5000:
          i think this would be the case trying to drive hard loads (like a coach screw) at half-power, but its not a problem for driving in fine fasteners. I have also noticed those warnings, but in practice this is done everwhere all the time.

          even with multiple speeds, you will still need the variable speed all the time.

  • RockyRaccoon on 23/04/2016 - 07:58
    +1

    Thanks just got confirmation of my online order being ready.

    Used Pricepal and Giftcards with my Masters trade card to get this down to around $130 nett

    • Frozensage on 23/04/2016 - 08:41
      +1

      How to use trade card online?

      • RockyRaccoon on 23/04/2016 - 09:57

        Cant recall, its set up in my profile already, so there is a away to have it applied. You could call masters support if you are game :)

  • kickmiass on 23/04/2016 - 08:19
    -4

    Decent deal for home use.
    Drill drivers are pretty useless and 2amp batteries are weak
    Impact drivers for skins only are about $100-120.
    So the deal is really only in the bonus batteries and drill driver. Probably saving 80 bucks or something

    If you are looking for really good tools, id suggest skipping this and look for bigger batteries and a hammer drill instead of a drill driver.

  • Poperdobs on 23/04/2016 - 08:35

    DeWalt/Stanley/Black n Decker owned by same company…I use DeWalt for trade, If I was going to use regularly for home I would go the Dewalt for that price. I find dewalt smaller and more comfortable, still have a 50% fail on the batteries though. Warranty is a must for Li-ion…

  • hamwhisperer on 23/04/2016 - 08:39

    If Masters goes belly up, what about warranty?

    • kickmiass on 23/04/2016 - 08:46
      +1

      warranty is with dewalt, just easier to bring it in to masters

    • random110 on 23/04/2016 - 10:24
      +3

      The Masters website says that Woolworths will honour warranties.

  • flex350 on 23/04/2016 - 08:43

    Why is delivery available to the drill kits that are not on sale, the units on sale I cannot get delivery.

  • A2Z on 23/04/2016 - 08:52

    It is very good price for a HOME use set.
    I bought the Milwaukee kit a few months ago for $249 which has free delivery and a hard case.
    https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/225636
    I think if you only need casual home use this is a good buy.

  • tanksinatra on 23/04/2016 - 08:53
    +1

    Great value! This is essentially the same as the Porter*Cable 20v Max. The impact driver is a beast, beating out the DeWalt (brushed) in this 5" lag bolt test. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=358_rxh-Q-s
    The Drill Driver seems well built and has a lot of torque, but is not a hammer drill.

  • glengood on 23/04/2016 - 11:44
    +2

    This set plus a cheap ozito rotary hammer drill would cover 99% of home DIY needs

    • sillyhead on 23/04/2016 - 12:16

      I agree i find if your really need a hammer drill you are normally much better of getting the old 240v one out. I have the cheap 18v li-ion makita hammer drill driver and its pretty useless on most things, maybe ok for doing a few holes in villaboard sheets but not much use with concrete or brick. I'd love to buy a cheap sds ozito kit.

  • cristobaljames on 23/04/2016 - 12:17
    +5

    $134.47 after 5% Masters newsletter sign up and further 5% Wish Card discount via Cashrewards.

    • Name on 23/04/2016 - 12:47

      How do you get the 5%? I can't see anything about getting the discount if I register. Do you just enter your email address on the homepage and click subscribe and they'll send you the code?

      • rottnest on 23/04/2016 - 12:55
        +1

        You should receive it in your registration email.

        • Name on 23/04/2016 - 13:28

          THanks, got the code. Now just the 5% wish egift card. The website said it'd take about 12 hours to arrive. WHat are peoples experiences? Normally take that long?

        • cristobaljames on 23/04/2016 - 13:33
          +1

          @Trozza: About 120 mins wait for mine to come through today.

        • Name on 23/04/2016 - 15:14

          @cristobaljames:

          Thanks! Got it in 101 minutes.

          Just picked it up for the same price as you. Awesome tip.

        • cristobaljames on 23/04/2016 - 15:43

          @Trozza: Nice one ;)

    • hamwhisperer on 26/04/2016 - 11:57

      How does one do the wishcard thing? Can you buy a wishcard to exactly $134.47?

      • spa on 26/04/2016 - 12:16

        You can choose the amount when buying an e-gift card from cash rewards for example.

  • rottnest on 23/04/2016 - 12:33

    How is it compared to the Dewalt 14.4v XR Li-Ion Drill Driver & Impact Driver Combo Kit?

  • Costco97 on 23/04/2016 - 13:13

    Thank you! I been waiting for this kit to reduce to below 150 for some time in Victoria.

  • fifoo on 23/04/2016 - 13:22

    Thanks OP. Picked one up from knoxfield. Plenty in stock

  • z00m on 23/04/2016 - 14:30
    +1

    Signed up and 5% code hasn't come through yet, been waiting 15 minutes, so frustrating.

  • WT on 23/04/2016 - 14:37
    +1

    I just finished up installing hardwood double doors at mum and dads using the impact gun. 6 hinges + 2 locks and only small pilot holes drilled for screws. Lots of on and off for adjusting etc. Works well, pretty sure it is brushless. Plenty of torque, dad snapped one of the screws going gun ho!

    I bought it last year for him for $99 inc battery and charger.

    $149 or less is a good deal!

    If I was in the market I would get fatmax over the the 14.4v dewalt mainly due to being brushless and higher voltage. If I had to screw a deck together or a pergola I know it would be able to do it

    • fruxo on 23/04/2016 - 15:28
      +1

      In this price range, even before discount, it's highly unlikely to be brushless. Why are you under the impression that it is? Impact drivers are awesome though, so powerful.

      • yacman on 23/04/2016 - 16:49

        Would also like confirmation on brush-less or not?

    • tanksinatra on 23/04/2016 - 18:01
      +1

      It's not brushless. Its brushed. All 2 piece kits in this price range are.
      The Stanley impact driver is still very powerful. It snapped two batten screws today.

      • WT on 24/04/2016 - 14:27

        It was from this deal here:https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/206568

        Doesnt seem to have any reference to brushless so i must be mistaken. Sorry.

        Still a good deal for home use.

  • Maverick-au on 23/04/2016 - 15:21

    Works well, pretty sure it is brushless.

    If I was in the market I would get fatmax over the the 14.4v dewalt mainly due to being brushless and higher voltage.

    Either it is brushless or it's not so which one is it?

    DeWalt has a trade warranty whereas the Stanley has a warranty that excludes professional use so which one do you think is better built? This applies in the UK market at least - http://toolguyd.com/stanley-fatmax-power-tools-now-available….

    • tanksinatra on 23/04/2016 - 18:14
      +1

      I don't think that is correct. There is no exclusion of professional use in the Australian Fatmax warranty.
      http://www.stanleysites.com/uploads/aus/T_C/TC-powertools-AU…

      However such restrictions are common in other brands, for instance the Ryobi is only warranted for 30 days of commercial use.

    • sky blu on 23/04/2016 - 18:15

      Confirmed BRUSHED. I bought a set 1.5 years ago for $199. Used without fail, although just around the house jobs. Impact driver is very powerful. Solid build, feels good in the hand. Don't know about the DeWalt set so can't give my opinion.

  • atlas on 23/04/2016 - 16:48

    Plenty available in box Hill. Hawthorn haven't received their stock yet.

  • sky blu on 23/04/2016 - 18:12

    Combined with eBay 15% discount?

    • tryagain on 23/04/2016 - 22:07
      +3

      Had the same thought however its not on their ebay site. The fact that you cant get it delivered makes me think this is a sale designed to increase foot traffic in stores.

      • sky blu on 23/04/2016 - 23:18

        Well said

        • tryagain on 24/04/2016 - 07:57
          +1

          Hope it works for them, although I genreally use bunnings as I have three closer than Masters I still have 2 Masters within 10 mins and the competition is a good thing.

      • Name on 24/04/2016 - 08:14
        +1

        And it's going to work. I also need to replace my swap and go gas cylinder, a sunshade and some hooks for my shed. While these things are a little cheaper at bunnings, the fuel used to go to both stores wouldn't be worth it.

  • Jettblack on 23/04/2016 - 19:19

    Thanks OP Picked up at Robina also Plenty of Stock

  • Black Hole on 23/04/2016 - 19:20

    Got one at today. Very nice. My first impact drill.

  • louuisc on 23/04/2016 - 22:14

    Looks like it was $119 off from $239 early this year.

    https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/232216

    When and why the price went up?

    • TechVisar on 23/04/2016 - 23:23
      +1

      That was selected NSW stores only, this is across all stores I believe. Correct me if I am wrong

      • louuisc on 23/04/2016 - 23:25
        +1

        My point is it seems that the origianl price was different - not saying this one is not a good deal though

  • lowndes8 on 23/04/2016 - 22:46

    I have been after a driver for a while and was going to get a ryobi one deal but this is a good deal so just got one :)

  • sky blu on 23/04/2016 - 23:21

    Off topic, is there any code going on for inshore/online Masters? I am thinkingof getting the $128 Dremel 3000. Is that a fair price or you've seen better deals on Dremel corded ones (I've read that the cordless are no good)?

  • spa on 24/04/2016 - 21:14

    Can anyone recommend a good value set of drill bits to go with this?

    • tanksinatra on 25/04/2016 - 07:39

      What are you drilling? For wood I've been using a cheap $6 drill bit pack from bunnings. Works fine.

      • spa on 25/04/2016 - 08:10

        Wood or metal (like fencing). Will probably just get a cheap set then.

        • Corapmafya on 26/04/2016 - 10:03

          Might need something a bit more decent for metal. Proper hardened bits. You'll find you will need to sharpen the cheap bits very often if you use them on metal. That has been my experience anyway.

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