So, do people always plan ahead when buying small appliances because that's the only reason I can think of.
or are they more likely to impulse buy, just like me right now.
What other reasons could there be…
It's Still August, It's Still Cold, Yet Most Stores Have Gotten Rid of Their Heaters and Replaced Them with Fans?
nautic on 29/08/2016 - 04:21
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No, but do you think if someone wanted a heater, they would have bought it near the beginning of winter? Many stores do still have heaters instore, but since it's getting warmer it makes sense to start selling fans.
@nautic: You mean spring? Are you still living in the other hemisphere in your mind?
The way the retailers see it, if number of people likely to buy fans > number of people likely to buy heaters then time to switch. Nothing to do with outside temperatures.
@nautic: But even less people will buy heaters now. People who have been cold will have bought them already, and the only people buying will be those whose heaters broke down, and they are willing to lose that sale. It takes time to change stock so this is the slack period to do it.
You are comparing right now, no sales(fans)to some sales(heaters.
How much time do you think it takes really to change stock over?
@nautic: Look we all agree that changeover has to happen sometime. You're just sore that the store's reasoning doesn't suit you. Too bad, just shiver and suck it.
@nautic:
It's actually not about how many sales they will get now, it's about how many more they think they will sell. If they get 10 more units in but sell 2 this week and it then gets warmer, they have to hold onto 8 units until next winter. If they order 10 fans in and sell 2 this week, they still have six months to sell the other 8 (obviously quantities are understated. Suppliers are in the same position. at the start of a season they make X number of heaters based on a foretasted number they think will sell. If they haven't sold them to Harveys, Bunnings etc by now then they haven't done a good job. If they have sold out, then they are not going to produce more and risk not selling them. They would just raise their forecast next year so that they make more. By now the seasonal production would have turned to cooling which is also why you would have seen heaters on sale in Bunnings (and otehres) for the last month.@Kangal: Did you ever think that OP wanted to put a rant on OZB coz it's too cold and they need to get angry/heated-up coz there's no heaters on sale?
summer is four months away
Summer is 3 months and 3 days away, and we are only a few days away from Spring. No need to exaggerate.
I did say for a few weeks did I not? would that also be exaggerating?
That's fine but if you're going to round 3 months and 3 days it makes much more sense to round to 3 months, does it not?
No, it makes more sense to round it off to a period where the scorching hot temps come in.
People can and do use fans in spring.
tell me, what's the temperature right now where you're from?
@nautic:
tell me , how late should they keep full stock of heaters?
you do know they have to plan ahead right ? to not end up with a warehouse full of heaters in summer yea ?
spring = warm enough that very few people will buy heaters, summer virtually no one will, if they dont sell out now they have to reduce to clear.Did I say they shouldn't plan ahead? They have 4 months to do so.
What good is a store when it can't offer consumers what they want at a time when they need it?
@nautic:
you are making the implication that they should cater to the very few people who ,think that spring is a time to buy heaters instead of a time to start looking for cooling, thus , it is fair to conclude that you are indeed saying they should not plan ahead and just cater to the current climate.Heaters and fans are usually small and cheap appliances - not washing machines that take time to buy and install.
If you need to plan ahead for that, then good luck to you.
@nautic: i talk about a retailer , you talk about a individual. no real point discussing the topic with you huh ?
You are talking about an individual when you say "time to start looking for cooling"
"Start looking" means "planning". Or do you think people need fans now?
You got that right - do us both a favour and stop.
@nautic: Cairns. High of 26, low of 21 :) The air-conditioners up here usually don't even come with a heater function.
@nautic: What good is it when they don't offer the people heaters at the end of winter? All two of them.
Do you think it makes sense to freeze for a few months and only buy a heater just before spring?
@nautic: Calm down fella.
The simple fact is retailers will have years of sales data that will demonstrate when sales of heaters slows down and so they will want to clear inventory. At this time of year you should be able to find decent deals on heaters as anyone overstocked will be clearing through their excess.
The movement to fans will be the same equation in reverse.. clearly people DO start to purchase them at this time of year, it will be the start of the season, so sales will be quite slow, but they will be getting early reads on best sellers to enable them to better back the right options in high season.
This is basic retail- happens everywhere- you could apply exactly the same logic to sweaters vs shorts in fashion retailers.
@nautic: I must admit that I do find it a little concerning that you don't understand how retail works.
Also you need to check the difference between opinion and fact. You appear to be getting them mixed up.
I will still +1 you for getting so irritated over heaters and fans. I am looking forward to your ire on easter eggs next year. It's madness!
@nautic: You've got that wrong; the correct statement is "nobody in their right mind would purchase a heater right now, much less in the coming weeks." Seeing as you are the only person with this mindset, doesn't that tell you that perhaps you are in the wrong? Of course I would expect to you to come back and try and argue your point but the fact of the matter is the coldest days of winter are behind are us; your chances of freezing from now until the end of winter are zip.
@nautic: I'm currently in Brisbane wearing shorts and no shirt at 7:30 at night, so I obviously don't need a heater. :)
@nautic: It strikes me that you are probably having some problems at home. I suggest your sort those out before you flip your sh*t on an internet forum about some random topic.
@nautic: A quick browse through your comment/post history shows you are pretty angry with the world over very small things. Lighten up - you'll live longer.
@johnno07: Or he could also try a little harder before he posts.
2 seconds found these on good guys: https://www.thegoodguys.com.au/heating-and-cooling/heaters/g…
And was able to find ones easily on Appliance Online as well. I suspect he looked in one shop and than came home and made this post.
You've been freezing for the past 2 months because of your lack of foresight, what's another few weeks in the scheme of things?
Nope. Begs the question why freeze for the last few months and only now want one?
do you think it make sense to freeze for a few weeks because summer is just four months away and it's getting a little warmer?
Your logic fails. So did you live all this winter without heater?
Do you think most people would buy a heater now when winter is just about over?
I would, because my bloody heater died!
(But generally, no).
What other reasons could there be
Retail 101. Clear the floor and storage for new stock.
@whooah1979
Retail 101. Clear the floor and storage for new stock.
Nailed it.
I guess it depends what part of Australia too
Mid twenties forecast in Brisbane this week (most days)
http://210.8.186.60/qld/forecasts/brisbane.shtml?ref=hdr
I too have been struggling to find a specific heater that I want at masters/bunnings.. But I don't plan on using it til next year as I'm leaving the country for a few monthsb but its deffs still cold enough to want a heater.
Reminds me of how the day after Xmas, the supermarkets start putting out the hot cross buns for Easter.
I think in some way there is a trend to get in as early as possible with predicted consumer patterns. All the stores have tried to out-do each other and be the first, and it has come to the point that now these things begin so early before they are really needed. This has become the norm.
It sure has become the norm… and all due to those you see here, comming to the big retailer's defence, at their very own expense.
I think you nailed it here.
Another thread where the OP doesn't have everyone supporting him and all of a sudden we all become sheep supporting the capitalistic pigs ruining our future. Brilliant.
all you have to do is bring forward a valid argument instead of making accusations, and then I'll agree with you. Simple isn't it?
OP thinks the world revolves around him so naturally businesses are doing it wrong when they aren't there to supply him and 1 other person with a heater when nobody buys them. They actually think that the stores are losing money by not doing this because world revolves around them etc. They just can't work it out.
Sure. Retail stores aren't just for households. They are also for businesses who have different requirements to a home environment. People have different heat tolerances. It's the standard seasonal changeover time. The climate isn't the same all over the country. Fans are often needed for ventilation.
Need more arguments?
I think there is a psychological aspect to this behaviour. To feed the consumer urge, you have to sell anticipation. If you are selling heaters now, consumers look at them and groan inwardly thinking of cold nights. But if you sell fans consumers start dreaming of warmer days. Maybe they'll buy a fan or more likely something else that visit.
So when the first scorcher day comes, the retailers caught short not having fans on the shelf will kick themselves. So at the very least they will start pushing the heaters out of the way now. The smarter ones would have let the stock run out naturally by controlling their wholesale orders.
Yes, I'm going to buy a heater for the last remaining 2 days of winter, how dare they begin changing stock over from heaters to fans.
This is a complete outrage; I demand more heaters, the people demand more heaters!
To hell with all the people who think I should have bought a heater at the beginning of winter, I'll buy a damned heater for the warmer months too, if I should so choose.
Damn those businesses for thinking logically about selling products that are relevant to the season. If I want a heater for spring/last days of spring, give me a damn heater and take my money!!!!
I care not for their stock clearing or business acumen!
.#heatergate #downwithfans
and it's currently 11 degrees in Sydney where you are at. Please don't turn on your heater.
At least OptimisticPessimist has a heater because he bought one at the right time, at the beginning of winter.
You're complaining about it being 11 degrees in Sydney with only 2 days of winter left. It's been 3 months now and you only just realised?
Like complaining about missing a train because it was on time lol. Why would anyone plan to arrive to the station after the train has left (destination winter)? Only thing left to look forward to is the next train, first stop Spring then Summer.
Stock does take time to change over, they need to sell it first before they can make room for new stock. Room costs $$$. Nothing is instant. The fact that you believe it's instant shows your ignorance towards this subject.
Some stores will still stock heaters or you can look online, the onus is on you now.
last year winter i remember tried to buy small heater at bunnings and bigw, ALL sold out
there were plenty of heaters in the upstairs section of bunnings hawthorn when i was there last weekend.
OP's life must be at an absolute peak for him to have nothing else to worry about or concern him other than this completely meaningless issue :)
I moved from Gold Coast to Canberra in October last year.
This Winter, most I've worn out is a hoodie and shorts, or gym gear. Often even at 6:00am or later like 7:00pm…
I can't believe there are people out there who have bought expensive jumpers, jackets, and other clothing when I'm here without it. What is wrong with these people!!! It's a bloody outrage it is!
How dare people experience temperatures differently and plan what they buy accordingly!
If your talking about excerise but not if you just sitting outside. Maybe if your permanently drunk or something but you would get hypothermia in shorts in a -5 Canberra morning trying to be a tough individual "tanking" the cold.
To be fair, it hasn't been windy very often so no wind chill
It has been a very mild winter. I doubt you were out in hoodies and shorts when it was -5 in the mornings.
What is this "cold" you are talking about?
You can buy a heater at the start of winter at full price, but have the widest choice.
You can buy a heater at the end of winter, often at a substantial discount, but with a restricted choice.
Ozbargainers will usually choose the latter.
It's going to be 20 degrees in Sydney today, which isn't really heater weather. Even where I am it was a balmy 14 yesterday and I was happy in a T-shirt cooking at the BBQ.in a T-shirt next to a grill?
Is this "problem" worthy of discussion?
Relax, grab some popcorn
In Sydney, it's only cold in the late night and dawn period. During the daytime it's above 20 degrees.
You sure are acting bratty. Just walk into a Harvey Norman or other big retailer and buy a heater. What's the big deal?
That's nice to know, and should Hobart also follow Brisbane's lead?
Christmas decorations in August. Hot cross buns in December……
Another riveting thread….
This fan thing in August is as much of a scam as pulled pork.
I think OP should start a new retail business called "Out of Season".
You'll make a killing!
In all seriousness, now should be the best time to buy a heater.
OP probably can't find a heater, as retailers likely had a sale several weeks ago and now there is no stock.
Funny guy. I suspect it's gona take more than a heater to sort this guy out.
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Try Masters. My local one has a few left.
Because at this stage, more people are going to buy a fan than a heater. i'm pretty sure businesses would know more than you on which product would sell more. People who wanted a heater would have got one already considering there's only a few days left of winter
At this stage it's still cold.
Not for long
It's cold now yes, but it has been colder previously. So what has changed between last time it was cold, like last week and now.
Did you just decide to put up with the cold until right now?
If they are still selling heaters now, they will never sell out and then have to carry them over and store them until next winter.who's got the space for that? What a waste of money for them. It's called running a business, and generally, they know what they are doing.
Stiff titties for you, literally.
There is the option of returning unsold items back to the supplier. It's call gaining a competitive advantage.
Like I said previously, heaters do break down and all it takes is a little thought before posting to know that.
Actually this August is literally the coldest August in Sydney for atleast the past decade. I remember ever time I complete the City2Surf, I didn't wear much than a t-shirt in the coming days after. Relative temp is normally 22 in August. The peak so far has been 18 lately save if you stand in the middle of the sun on a sunny day afternoon.
It's sad to see what the Ozblockhead forum has boiled down to.
I've counted your negative votes so far -40.
Looks like some people can't handle what they dish out.
This statement makes no sense, much like the rest of your post.
Obvious troll post is obvious.
You wrote obvious twice in one sentence, so tell me, why is it so obvious? I'm curious to know.
It's incredibly simple, as others have said.
Sydney experiences its lowest average temperatures in June/July. If you are somebody who needs a heater, you would buy it in (or prior to) June/July. It is no longer June/July, so peak demand for heaters is dropping. This month, Sydney experienced an average maximum temperature of 19 degrees with a high of 25.2 degrees (10th August). Noting the link provided above, temperatures are increasing.
If you are somebody who would need a heater for a Sydney winter — it is reasonable to assume you would have purchased one already in the June/July period. Demand for heaters would reasonably be approaching its lowest point. With higher temperatures comes higher demand for cooling — hence the fans that you see in the shops.
Clearly, the scarcity of heaters 3 days before Australian spring has triggered you — but instead of venting at fellow OzBargainers, it is probably best to apply logic and deductive reasoning to the problem instead.
OP thinks retailers are in business just to please him
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Well considering it's getting warmer, you'd be much more likely to buy a fan now.
Do you think most people would buy a heater now when winter is just about over?