Low hours jobs

ChurchMouth on 20/09/2016 - 09:28
Last edited 20/09/2016 - 09:30

Hi all,

I am thinking about quitting my typical office engineering job and chasing some entrepreneurial goals + travel with my partner who has a FIFO arrangement.

As I am abit nervous at the thought of leaving a good job (I would receive a lot of flack from my extended family), potentially having no income for a while and uncertainty of my success as an entrepreneur - I thinking it would be ideal if there was some sort of job that I could have on the side that wouldn't interfere with my goals:

Ideal job would be as follows:

  • ~2 hrs per day + travel
  • ~30$/hr (I am not sure what minimum wage is for an adult in mid 20's)
  • Involves people (building relationships working with other people, maybe helping challenged people/ youth)
  • Wouldn't have any brain burden out of hours (a problem of my current job)

Ideally I'd like to spend a couple of hours each day doing it and then even if I failed as an entrepreneur I wouldn't feel like I have completely wasted my time.

I have heard of a few friends of friends who assist a parent with their autistic children (like a babysitter) for a couple of hours to give the parents a break. I don't know if that is common thing or not, or whether males are even desired for that sort of care.

I'd also be interested in any sort of regular jobs (i.e. baker) that might fit the criteria.

Thanks for your ideas

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Comments

      • virhlpool on 25/09/2016 - 10:16

        @z0s0:I tried to msg you but you don't have pvt message option open.

  • shaybisc on 21/09/2016 - 10:07

    10 to 15 hours a week was what I was told I was going to get when I was a child, way back when, with increasing mechanisation and automation and robots and stuff. Didn't factor in greed- people want more and more stuff- and the stuff that can't be mass produced, i.e. property, keeps demanding more and more work to acquire.

  • halfman on 21/09/2016 - 10:23
    +3

    Church Mouth, May i ask what exactly is your entrepreneurial pursuit?

  • flylin on 21/09/2016 - 10:24

    Would highly recommend high school tutoring. Very easy to get yourself set up and going. Word of mouth will sustain business if your good.

    And as an engineer, the maths is easy to pick up and learn again. Plus, you pay per hour can easily reach $50 depnding on your clients. I was earning $40 an hour as an undergrad.

  • Datz21 on 21/09/2016 - 11:19
    +3

    Uber mate - I'm in the same boat: mid-20s, recently semi-resigned effective July 2016. Depending on the venture you enter in, Uber is a great way to network! I've also been generously provided the option of staying part time as an Accountant which I accepted. I've been with the same company for 5 years and have built life-long relationships so this may be a special scenario but a great option for you if available! (I handed in my resignation and this option was provided post exit interview)

    In short, I work part time in the morning, I work on my business after lunch and I uber any free time I have in between. I see myself totally leaving corporate and uber in a few months, but for now, both have been great income streams as you will know for yourself that there is no guaranteed income with your own business - specially in the beginning!

    The main encouragement I have is that once you take that first leap to go against the 9 to 5 grind, more and more opportunities open! You will have so much more time, just need to use it effectively to meet new people and bounce ideas off with. Perfect time now in our mid-20s as the older we get, the harder it is to leave a career. I avg about $30 to $35 per hour on uber not considering expenses and my main business is in eCommerce (have also started a few other ventures). I'm only a couple of months in and I couldn't be happier how everything is going.

    Number 1 tip: surround yourself with like-minded people and everything will be ok! There's a lot of noise out there, but just connect with the right people and I guarantee you won't regret leaving!

    Hope that helps mate!

    • virhlpool on 25/09/2016 - 10:18

      @Datz21: I needed some info, tried reaching you but your profile doesn't have pvt msg option open.

  • goodcopbadcop on 21/09/2016 - 12:15
    +7

    I strongly recommend that before you chuck in a good job that pays well - spend some worthwhile time planning what is involved in setting up a new business from scratch. You are considering one element - small $'s for your personal survival. You need to put a lot more work into the investigation of what you need to do and prepare for to start a business. Just because you think or want to be an entrepreneur - doesn't mean a successful business. Whilst we all hear about those people who jag it and just get going and voila - instant business and entrepreneur. Running a business without financial cashflow for the business - is going to be stressful enough. If you have to go off an work 2 hours of paid work to feed yourself - that is such a distraction.

    Essentially you are changing careers - and people who choose to do this will usually dabble in their new profession first on the side to test the market and their business idea or they will do the necessary training whilst they are still working. They choose to do it because they have a passion for this and that is what is driving them to do whatever it takes. Or it is an extension of something that they have done in the past or currently do - so going into consulting or teaching or whatever uses their skills and knowledge but in a different way. In other words they know what their strengths are and they are tapping into their talents and building a new career around that.

    Whilst you currently might be bored or unfulfilled in Engineering - do some real analysis of why it bores you. Is it because you want more people interaction or flexible hours or want to manage projects or just want to sit on the computer designing? If any of these are the situation - then that is what you should be pursuing - either by changing jobs to work in a role that suits you or offers more flexibility; or looking at extending your role to include what is missing (sometimes not always possible in your current role) or by taking on activities out of working hours - say on the weekend that give you the experiences that you are missing.

    I just don't think that you have thought this through.You didn't even have a clue what the minimum hourly adult rate was - you thought somewhere around $30 an hour for 2 hours? Do the maths on that….$30 X 38 hours is $840 per week or a salary of $43,680 pa. So the sorts of jobs that might earn that salary will be reception, sales, administration - in other words mostly support roles. How do those sorts of jobs sit with you? Could you do that week in week out? And no employer is going to hire a receptionist for 2 hours unless it is to relieve the main receptionist during lunch. And that is always going to be in the middle of the day.

    And to be honest if you are working away as an entrepreneur and just getting into something - you won't want to stop what you're doing if you are passionate about it to go and work 2 hours of paid mundane work. That cuts into the day and you will get sick of that quickly.

    Unless you have planned out and know exactly how you are going to go about setting up your business and you are so passionate about it that working 60 hours a week on it and not getting paid - doesn't phase you…. then I'd look at saving up all your annual leave so that you have at least 8 weeks accumulated and during that time you are planning your travel goals - where you will go, the cost, what is required in Visa's etc. A two month break with pay will give you a new perspective on life and a much needed break!

    • ChurchMouth on 21/09/2016 - 16:23

      You are right this hasn't been fully thought through. This was an idea generation/ feasibility testing thread for me.. the "should I leave now" discussion was going to be subject of a later thread with better starting information supplied.

      Really appreciate your input though, has given me some things to think about.

      • duckworth on 21/09/2016 - 19:28
        +1

        No pain no gain!
        If you are supported and money is not an issue go for it!

        I agree that you need to think it through more throughly but if there is nothing holding you back then go for it!

        Most people hold back on an idea because of family or fear of financial failure. If the risk is low then there is nothing holding you back. You could also do some volunteer work to give something back to mankind - a social entrepreneur! I have friends in this space.

        What type of engineer are you btw? Civil or mech?

  • syousef on 21/09/2016 - 13:10
    +4

    Your extended family are right. Giving up a full time job in this contracting job market is "courageous" (i.e. suicidal). Most jobs being created now are low paying and part time contract or casual in nature. I've had some involvement in recruiting grads where I work and I've seen people with PhDs apply for entry level roles.

    If you want to pursue other goals it should be in your "spare" time until you are making enough money to quit your day job. If you can't make that happen there's a very good chance your goals aren't viable. Unless travel is part of those goals you probably need to choose between the goals and travel rather than do both at the same time. (Your best bet to fund your travel is to stay in your job and go for a holiday once a year!)

    For every Musk, Gates and Jobs there are hundreds of thousands for whom it amounted to nothing - for some it was costly and they went back to paying jobs. That's getting harder. For others they literally ended up homeless and destitute. Don't let that be you! As well as hard work, focus, an understanding of the market and vision you need to be ruthless to get rich and be happy to keep whatever you can regardless of other people's efforts. It has only gotten harder as time has passed.

    Downvote me all you like guys. Someone has to tell it how it is.

    • bl1027 on 21/09/2016 - 13:45
      +2

      I completely agree with this comment. Up until recently I too was in the OP's position. Wanting to give up a stable full time job to become an entrepreneur, whatever the f*&^ that means.

      Instead, I took a middle ground by finding a part time job, to give me the financial security, and worked on my business the other 4 days. Essentially, I work 7 days a week! It will give you a taste of what being an 'entrepreneur' is like. I launched my business 1 month ago and I can tell you it's a tough slog and not all parts about it are rewarding like what the blogs make it out to be.

      I made a deal with myself that once the busines makes the equivalent of my part time pay, then I can quit my job. Before then, think of it more as a side hustle to your main job.

  • Mr Ayayay on 21/09/2016 - 13:13

    School crossing supervisor?

  • usbc activist on 21/09/2016 - 13:22

    Uber and uber inspired services for groceries, parcels, cooking, etc have come up. You can try one of them. I think they allow you to work in your own timeframe. Not sure about earnings but there should be assured earnings.

  • brizzy on 21/09/2016 - 13:38
    +4

    set up lik a small cafe/coffee cart type thing n see if you can hire someone to run it.. come in couple of hrs a day when its super busy. Boom. Sorted.

  • ihbh on 21/09/2016 - 13:46
    +2

    If you are a genuine entrepreneur, look to work, including for free, in the industry/area you want to build your future business to gain experience.

    It's pointless earning a pittance and not building up your expertise.

  • 2ndeffort on 21/09/2016 - 14:03

    I know a number of guys that have setup small consultancy type companies in niche industries. If the niche you service is in demand you can make serious money for essentially copy and pasting somebody else's CV onto your letterhead and emailing on to a bigger company. I know guys that get $100 a day or more for the duration of the contract if the candidate they forward on wins the contract, have seen some win contracts that span multiple years. Multiply this by 20 or more candidates….. Once the candidate wins the job and the contracts are signed you really don't have much to do with it. The couple of hours a day is spent on LinkedIn, on the phone or meeting people in coffee shops talking to potential candidates about putting them forward under your banner for the jobs.

    • Charleston on 21/09/2016 - 14:56
      +2

      I believe they're called recruiters.

      • 2ndeffort on 21/09/2016 - 15:10

        Not necessarily, often recruiters go and find employees for bigger companies. Might be splitting hairs but there are a load of 'consultancy' companies around that essentially find specialist people to work on shorter term consulting assignments. Jobs for Government departments that might be for 2-3 months or sometimes as long as 2 years. Sometimes you bid direct to the department, other times you bid your guy into a bigger company.

  • keithality on 21/09/2016 - 14:53
    +1

    Uber sounds good, but if driving isn't your thing, perhaps deliver for UberRUSH? (if it's available in your city that is)
    https://www.uber.com/signup/drive/deliver/

  • [Deactivated] on 21/09/2016 - 15:19

    Maybe look into dog walking. 3 dogs @ $10 each for an hour walk x2 = $60.

    • Thenarrator on 21/09/2016 - 19:52

      i would think dog owners would be quite picky in terms of the type of person walking their dog ? i.e. dont let it bite people, dont eat rubbish etc. Its pretty hard to become one if you havent proved to others that you a)own a dog b) knows a lot about dogs.

  • mchoodie on 21/09/2016 - 15:45

    You haven't outlined what skills you have. For suggestions with low/no start up requirements (startup requiremnents for your part time gig) we need to understand what you can do.

    I was able to get $25 an hour straight out of high school so tutoring might be useful and given you did engineering you probably can teach early high school math. You would be distant from current syllabus etc though.

    I like the airtasker suggestions. Get on there and see what you could do.

    More broadly, for entrepreneurial success you probably need to reduce time your spending with family, interests etc. if you feel you need to keep 10hr + per week for non business related things, you're shooting yourself in the foot imo. That's like half a day every week for entrepreneurs you cannot afford to loose. My point it needs to be full commitment not just from you, but from your family. Otherwise, you're bordering on a hobby.

    All the best nonetheless.

    • ChurchMouth on 21/09/2016 - 17:17

      Not much skills besides those you get from working in a corporate environment, using excel for little calculations, running meetings and sending emails. Besides the soft skills, the job has little application outside of hydrocarbon industry :( One of my major gripes.

  • hellno on 21/09/2016 - 16:35

    Get a job as a phone operator at one of the many betting companies - they are always after people
    I did it 10+ years ago and it paid over $20 p/h back then, plus you get penalties on weekends.

    They probably wouldn't want you for 2 hours a day but if you were willing to work a 6-8hr shift on Sat and/or Sun i'm sure they'd grab you with both hands as they are usually very understaffed on Sat

    • Kangal on 21/09/2016 - 16:53
      +2

      Or even a phone sex line operator!

    • shaybisc on 21/09/2016 - 17:28
      +2

      Aren't they all in the NT dodging tax?

  • OldSchoolHarry on 21/09/2016 - 18:01

    Private tutor for high school or uni students. You decide the hours and can easily get $25-35 an hour. Or uber.

  • kywst on 21/09/2016 - 18:09

    I have heard of a few friends of friends who assist a parent with their autistic children (like a babysitter) for a couple of hours to give the parents a break. I don't know if that is common thing or not, or whether males are even desired for that sort of care.

    Autism or the role of a carer?

    Also, you're an engineer? Maybe ring some local builders and let them know you're prepared to sign off on their engineering requirements for a fee. I can't count how many times I've handed over a couple of hundred bucks for people like you to tell me my trench sufficient to pour a concrete footing.

    • BartholemewH on 22/09/2016 - 20:05

      Just because someone has 'engineer' in their title, doesn't mean they can sign off on structural diagrams.

      • kywst on 23/09/2016 - 06:54

        Also, you're an engineer?

        Had no idea, thanks.

  • [Deactivated] on 21/09/2016 - 18:16

    Red cross,engineers without borders, UNHCR…..get paid, go overseas and level up on the good karma you generate…..not quite 2hrs a day …but maybe something you may want to think about for the future😀

  • heysoph9 on 21/09/2016 - 18:36
    +3

    Not sure if it's up your alley but I used to umpire in local footy leagues. Requires one training a week and a couple (4 hours for 2 games) hours on a Saturday. Each game was a minimum $100 depending on age level and position.
    More generally, sport umpiring of any kind is high pay and short hours.

  • Bazeegar on 21/09/2016 - 18:38

    Can you do one full day in the week and leave 4 days for your business? Better chance of finding some work.

  • Sinful on 21/09/2016 - 19:20

    Bus driver, you work 1.5 hours in the morning 1.5 in the arvo, you get paid for 4 hours. $32 an hour.

    • OzJD on 21/09/2016 - 21:14

      Most companies will expect you to work 4-5 hours a shift. Also, the initial investment is very high for low hours (particularly the MR/HR licensed)

  • Talonparty on 21/09/2016 - 20:56
    +1

    Most places which are hiring legally won't employ for only 2 hours as a casual as far as I understand. I think it's a minimum of a 3 hour shift at the smallest amount.

    You should try coles, you can potentially get nightfill work there and they should be hiring for christmas soon. They no longer hire casual, everyone is 'permanent part-time' but the part time amount is only 10-12 hours per week (at around $21 per hour) and any additional work is at the casual rate (about $27), they are apparently one of the more generous payers.

    It's shit work but it's mindless, you'll just have to put up with the jaded arseholes you work with and their performance metrics which are bullshit.

    • Danta on 22/09/2016 - 16:42
      +1

      I agree with this. Coles is a great employer and its a well paying job for what it is.

  • Nillionaire on 21/09/2016 - 21:03
    +1

    Airtasker.

  • supbah on 21/09/2016 - 21:07
    +3

    I'm looking for an engineering job, will happily take yours if you leave :p

    • clint-008 on 24/09/2016 - 09:26

      Same, been out of Uni almost a year now. While I already have my Science degree I can't complete my Chemical engineering degree until I have 3 Months IE.

      Doing unpaid internship practically impossible besides there being a severe shortage of these roles. How I am supposed to survive If I have to work full time 38+ hours without pay, centrelink won't support me since they consider that to be voluntary work so unless I also look for full time work. They expect me to apply for everything and take whatever I can get including any crap job that will prevent me gaining any relevant industrial experience.

      I am currently stuck in the no practical experience circle, we cant hire you because you don't have experience, I can't get experience though if you don't hire me. I would also happily take his Job; sounds right up my alley hydrocarbons, excel, meetings and emails. Sounds like my Chem Eng. and Science degrees in a nutshell.

  • [Deactivated] on 21/09/2016 - 21:37
    +1

    What are your entrepreneurial goals? Could there be other startups who you could work for on a freelance basis to help fund your own (added bonus of getting paid to learn)? Lots of startups looking for help out there on the web (I've engaged multiple people via fiverr, gumtree, etc to do digital marketing work for example in that price range)

  • Herbert1955 on 21/09/2016 - 21:43

    As a school Crossing Supervisor, yes you do get around $30 hr but the majority of jobs are only 40 mins and you only get paid for the time on the Crossing which is about $20 in the morning and $20 in the afternoon. $40 a day - $200 a week - 10 week terms $2000 term by 4 terms = $8000 less public holidays a year. Wouldn't pay the bills

  • sammyq on 21/09/2016 - 22:17

    I'd say freight handler, shifts are usually 4 hours and pay is around $30 if your a contractor. I remember startrack was paying me $30+ btw 2pm to 6:30pm, $42 btw 6:30-830pm and 50+ after 8:30pm. The short 4 hr shifts usually start at 5pm. Decent money and short hours which was great when I was a uni student.

  • nimnomnimy on 21/09/2016 - 22:40

    Start a cleaning company, you can easily get $30-40 an hour and it'll teach you how to run a business while making money.

    My cleaner charges $35 an hour and has 3 kids in private school so they are doing something right

    • johnno07 on 23/09/2016 - 12:05

      doing something right

      Marrying into money?

      • nimnomnimy on 24/09/2016 - 07:49

        I doubt it very much

  • empty on 21/09/2016 - 23:16
    +1

    Newspaper delivery. Not sure of the pay rate but certainly around 2 hours shift. Check you local newspaper distributor.

  • ATangk on 21/09/2016 - 23:18

    Wheres the office you work at? I need an internship/work experience jig. In exchange, you can take my tutoring job. Part time, not many hours, high pay. Fits your criteria.

  • umoddbro on 21/09/2016 - 23:38
    +1

    What the… $30/hr for 2 hours. Where can I line up?

  • Cyberninja on 22/09/2016 - 00:44

    Create video courses on something you are good at and sell them on udemy. Also create some discount codes for your course which you can post on OZB. It would probably take a couple of days to create one course.

  • Tonster76 on 22/09/2016 - 01:46

    Collecting bottles or aluminium cans maybe.

    You don't give up a full time job to become 'an entrepreneur' you do that in your spare time through a lot of hard work and perseverance. If you don't already have something cooking then it's not going to materialise by being idle.

    Jobs are not always as easy to come by when you are out of work for some time and decide to go back. The cash you have in the bank is nothing unless it's over a million, the impact it has in putting your career on hold and setting your income back is way more than a little savings.

    • ChurchMouth on 22/09/2016 - 10:40

      And I would be at high risk of not being able to get back in.. as 5 yrs engineering experience doesn't make you a great choice as an experienced hire and too much experience to get in through a graduate program.

      I am trying to design a product in my spare time and it is challenging to go through so much design and prototyping in such limited available time.. especially when stressed from work.

      I essentially don't want to continue the career in its current path so I don't think I am putting it "on hold". If I wait till we have over a million dollars (lol) in net value then we'd likely be a lot older and missed a lot of opportunities. I'd likely have kids and be invested in a more expensive lifestyle which would land me in the same predicament.

      • Thenarrator on 24/09/2016 - 07:53

        ChurchMouth, may I ask what type of engineering position you are in? design/construction? mechanical or?

        • clint-008 on 24/09/2016 - 09:44

          He said further up in this thread;

          Seems to be a mostly office based position mostly management and data analysis type stuff from the looks of it;

          ChurchMouth

          besides those you get from working in a corporate environment, using excel for little calculations, running meetings and sending emails. Besides the soft skills, the job has little application outside of hydrocarbon industry :( One of my major gripes.

    • cuteseal on 23/09/2016 - 23:31

      I agree to this… do it on the side until you have something worthwhile before before you quit your day job.

      Or alternatively negotiate to cut down your current hours, say to 3 or 4 days a week so that you have some free time for your other pursuits.

  • [Deactivated] on 22/09/2016 - 02:29

    Part time university teacher/tutor, pays well beyond your expectations! Even school?

  • shortgum on 22/09/2016 - 04:28
    -2

    Casio

    black/red - won. job done

    black/red - lost. take the day off

    repeat

  • bocca on 22/09/2016 - 10:08
    +1

    Our company has a causal sales and merchandising team of that goes into supermarkets and sells/builds relationships/manages stock etc.

    Its casual, flexible and we have 100's of staff nation wide.

    Read up on our website and if you end up applying put Jared B down as a reference to increase your chances =D

    http://www.powerforce.com.au/careers

    Good luck with your career mate!

    Jared

  • Sheez on 22/09/2016 - 10:36
    +2

    If you are after a job for 2 hours a day at $30/hour, that is only $300/week, or around $15k per year. Your full time engineering job probably pays well enough that you could save that amount in 2 or 3 months, so you could just work an extra few months before leaving, save up that amount, and then take a year off for roughly the same nett result? If you time it right for end of financial year and work 3 months after July, then you will also minimize your tax.

    This gives you one less distraction/excuse from whatever entrepreneurial goals you have during that year as well.

    • ChurchMouth on 22/09/2016 - 10:56
      +2

      I wish but the work doesn't allow that sort of flexibility.

      With your idea of working a bit longer, I'd continuously be saying to myself "I'll just work another 2 months".

      • Sheez on 22/09/2016 - 20:28
        +2

        You need to set a goal to save X amount of money then leave the job then, rather than base it on time. Start saving now, when you have saved $15k, hand in your notice.

        If you can't muster up the self control to do that, how are you going to have the self control to be an entrepreneur?

  • Shiny Mew on 22/09/2016 - 12:37

    Good luck getting a job at all. Even with an Honours and Masters accreditation from a top-tier university you'd be hard pressed finding a casual dishwashing role in a rural area.

  • Ryballs on 22/09/2016 - 14:09

    I'm not sure if you'd be eligible, but have you considered NEIS? The government pays you an allowance during the first year of a new business.

  • gr8ful on 22/09/2016 - 14:11

    mystery shopper?

  • PAOK11 on 22/09/2016 - 14:12

    Mate you don't have the balls to leave your job quit wasting peoples times

    • ChurchMouth on 22/09/2016 - 14:30

      That's off-topic as I am still looking for ideas. Thanks anyways PAOK

      • PAOK11 on 22/09/2016 - 15:11

        mate you'd be all over it if you were gonna leave your job. Know what your doing, who's gonna help know how your gonna get there. Know how much you need to be earning how many hours your gonna work. Reading your comments you sound like your all over the place, I mean your an engineer ffs you gonna just walk away from that

        • ChurchMouth on 22/09/2016 - 16:31
          +1

          You are assuming I am just going to quit as soon as I find a dog-walking job? Stop making assumptions and get real yourself - you have a very limited amount of information to be forming these opinions. "you gonna just walk away from that" - thats the sort of Dogma I don't want to live or get judged by, forcing me to give up dreams just to pool money endlessly.

        • mchoodie on 22/09/2016 - 19:03

          @ChurchMouth:

          Don't want to make it a bashing exercise, but the comment of being all over the place is a fair take I think.

          You want to develop something and be an entrepreneur. This is more than having a full time job. The point is success in this won't happen with distractions such as a part time work (for which I haven't read a compelling reason of why you need to do so).

          This comes back to comment you won't leave your job. Which is fine. You just can't take the risk and that's fine. Keep developing what you want to do in the background. Reduce your responsibility, don't push for he promotion, etc.

        • ChurchMouth on 22/09/2016 - 19:50
          +1

          @mchoodie:

          Look it is fine to comment that I am all over the place, but to detail my plan to retire from engineering wasn't the intent of this thread, so I am answering a bit all over the place and not providing much detail. Maybe I should have made it more clear that I am still in the figuring things out phase? Agree it would be a crazy last minute question to be asking if I am planning to quit my job anytime soon..

          The idea behind a couple of hours of work is to have something social and possibly more instantly rewarding than working furiously at home by myself day after day. Also having pocket change is nice. If the business projects got incredibly demanding (or satisfied even satisfied social need through networking) then I am sure I am capable of quitting that low hours job. I don't understand why there is a one-fit view of entrepreneurism that there is no life-balance.. surely that would be highly dependant on your direction/ product/ service.

        • Thenarrator on 24/09/2016 - 07:59

          @ChurchMouth: reading your comments, i have the same mindset as you, dont want to be governed by social dogma except i have <5yr experience compared to you. I think we have a lot in common.

  • mrluke on 22/09/2016 - 15:46
    +1

    Be a pizza delivery boy. The pay is not 30 an hour it's half that and you have to use your own car but there are plenty of jobs in that… If you are not willing to work 4 hours a night after spending the day being an 'entrepreneur', sorry to tell you but you don't want it bad enough and will fail. Self made business take 16 hour days, stay up all night and do your thing… If your idea fails your girlfriend will probably leave you and you won't get back into your current field. Sorry but I'm being real.

  • niner on 22/09/2016 - 18:24

    Stick to your current job mate.

    I work full-time as an engineer and I work on my side-business (consultancy work) on the weekend.

    • ChurchMouth on 22/09/2016 - 19:03

      Do you enjoy your full-time engineering?

      • niner on 22/09/2016 - 19:17
        +1

        I use to, but I'm not in R&D anymore, so my day involves managing other people and talking to overpaid executives with business degrees and our clients.

        The unions destroyed manufacturing and R&D in this country.

        If you're not enjoying your job, move into a different engineering discipline. Try mining or power.

        • Thenarrator on 24/09/2016 - 08:00

          the unions have destroyed the prestige of an engineer

    • azm on 23/09/2016 - 10:55

      Sorry to hijack on this thread.
      It is an interesting topic since I also keen to do Consultancy work but I am still figuring out whether I can do that legally due to my service agreement (non-compete and confidentiality clause). In addition to that there will be a conflict of interest issues.

  • Tasmaniac on 22/09/2016 - 19:57
    +1

    Doo iit. Your never gonna break the mold if you don't have a crack. Also it takes time to learn the ropes so the sooner you start the quicker your success will be.

  • [Deactivated] on 22/09/2016 - 21:42
    +1

    Sessional Academic Staff at Uni. 2-3 Hrs per day and gets you around $80. Catch is that such jobs are hard to get as you need experience in specific teaching areas.

    • nikey2k27 on 22/09/2016 - 21:46

      i done that before.

    • [Deactivated] on 22/09/2016 - 21:48

      Correction : $80/hour approx.

  • nikey2k27 on 22/09/2016 - 21:45

    Event work pay $30 per hour i say follow your dream. at end of life went you look wish i would have done that in life. i have i love it. i am not rich i am rich then if i stay at same job for 20years.

    • ChurchMouth on 22/09/2016 - 21:56
      +1

      I look at the senior engineers who have technical knowledge level that I could only wish to achieve.. but still think I wouldn't want to be them.

      • nikey2k27 on 22/09/2016 - 22:19
        +1

        There some unhappy sole at top of companys I learn that at Woolworth. There was lady in my life at 18 year she was 78 dying of cancer her last word to me was i have 3million in bank i trade it all for more time on this earth God does not take money as payment for more time. Do what you love you need little money to live.

        • ChurchMouth on 23/09/2016 - 14:25
          +1

          Alternatively, I think worrying about whether I have enough money to survive or do the things I want would be worse than working a crap job.

      • Thenarrator on 24/09/2016 - 08:01

        same same

  • Donaldhump on 23/09/2016 - 00:09
    +1

    work at sports stadiums…

    • Thenarrator on 24/09/2016 - 08:03

      any pointers on how to get started?

  • pointnlarf on 23/09/2016 - 00:57

    Ideally any FIFO position that compliments your partners schedule. Otherwise/ as well as, there are plenty of remote/internet based jobs that can easily be googled and tried out while you are in your current position and ultimately scalable depending on how much you want to put into it… Fiverr/Odesk , retail arbitrage, blogging, affiliate marketing, day trading etc etc depending on your interests….

  • [Deactivated] on 23/09/2016 - 01:09
    +1

    ~2 hrs per day + travel

    Male Gigolo, Adult Films, Drug Dealer, Mafia stand-overman

  • [Deactivated] on 23/09/2016 - 01:10

    ~2 hrs per day + travel

    I heard Auburn council was looking for a new Deputy Mayor (folks not in Sydney probably wont understand)

    • niner on 23/09/2016 - 10:26

      I heard that the councils merged and you're just mad Salim Mahajer is so wealthy while also being a massive tool.

      • [Deactivated] on 23/09/2016 - 11:11

        I'm sure there another council somewhere looking for a deputy mayor.

        I don't think anyone is jelous of Salim Mahajer. Seriously.

        • scrimshaw on 24/09/2016 - 12:46

          He has a nice house though. I pass by it from time to time.

        • [Deactivated] on 24/09/2016 - 18:03

          @scrimshaw:

          And nice cars (from what I read in the newspaper), beautiful women (depending on your definition of beautiful) … but a temper like his, civil and criminal court proceedings every other day. I wouldn't want that level of wealth, if that's what it comes with.

  • [Deactivated] on 23/09/2016 - 01:13
    +2

    ~2 hrs per day + travel

    one weekend a month, two weeks a year … join the army reserves

  • scratchback on 23/09/2016 - 05:28

    Day trading on share market, buy on the panic, sell on the greed and most important always stop loss.

  • missmai on 23/09/2016 - 06:54
    +1

    Group Fitness Instructors get about $50 an hour, and its one of the most rewarding jobs (in my opinion). I left my corporate job to go into Group Fitness (GX) and while it was a massive paycut, i wake up every day a much happier person. Plus i get to travel a lot too, whenever I want. I understand there are further qualifications required for this role, but Tafe sometimes runs free programs to get you started - eg. I recently did an Aqua course entirely for free through Meadowbank Tafe & they also run free First Aid & CPR. I must admit you would need the personality to be an Instructor but it's not something that's impossible. Goodluck!!

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