expired New Model ThinkPad E470 Gen7 i5-7200U, 8GB RAM, 1TB HDD $599 Shipped @ Lenovo ($730 with FHD)

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This laptop was released just last week, and $599 seems like a great price. Add coupon DEALE470 at checkout to save $250. If you prefer a FHD screen, this will add $131 to the price. Ends 11:59pm AEDT Sunday Extended to 11:59pm AEDT Oct 14 Extended again until this coming Sunday Oct 16. Enjoy :)

  • Intel Gen7 i5-7200U CPU
  • 14" HD (1366 x 768), AntiGlare
  • 8GB(4+4) DDR4 2400MHz SODIMM
  • 720p HD Camera with MIC
  • 1TB Hard Disk Drive, 5400rpm, 2.5", SATA3
  • 6 Cell Li-Polymer Battery 45WH
  • Dual Band Wireless (2x2 WiFi, 802.11ac, BT 4.1)

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  • +1 vote

    cashrewards too?

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    This is actually pretty decent. Only issue is the integrated graphics might not be good enough for some. Also, you can select 1x8Gb instead of 2x4GB for no extra.

    • +2 votes

      What is the benefit of getting the 1x8gb as opposed to 2x4gb?

      • +11 votes

        I'm guessing so you have the same RAM but it leaves you with a spare spot to add more.

      • +3 votes

        u can add another 8gb and make it 16gb

      • +3 votes

        You may lose 1 or 2% performance as far as RAM benchmarks due to moving to single channel RAM configuration. In reality this is meaningless and unnoticeable though.

        • +7 votes

          Yes and no.

          When it comes to gaming on integrated graphics, dual channel RAM can give more than a 100% increase in FPS over single channel RAM. CPU performance is relatively unaffected, but dual channel is a must on iGPU machines.

          Recently release video on single vs dual channel ram on integrated GPU machines.
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QM6LuMyaAHo

          Personally I would go with 2x4GB on this machine as I don't think purchasing another 8GB stick for 16GB all up would be a cost effective upgrade for this machine now, or in the future.

        • +1 vote

          @c0balt: Unless you have to deal with virtual machines on a daily basis.

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          @c0balt:

          I think what the video said was a little misleading. He started off with 2x4gb and ran his games. He then proceeded to remove 1 stick of 4gb leaving only 4gb in the system and ran "games that dont need more than 4gb" which includes CS:GO and the frame rate halved. What he should have done is to use a 1x8gb and 2x4gb as test. It is a no brainer that once your system has insufficient resources, performance tanks and it is not a linear decrease. I ran CS:GO, it uses 6.5gb of my total available ram. So I think saying that gaming on iGPU with dual channel RAM compared to single channel can give more than 100% increase in FPS is potentially misleading as what he was actually comparing is 4gb vs 8gb.

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          @KaTst3R:

          There is something very wrong with your computer or CS:GO install if its using that amount of RAM when playing.

          Even half of that would be worrying.

          The other tests which are more demanding of compute power found little to no difference in single VS dual channel and should have had a significant FPS difference if the system was gasping for RAM - more so than CS GO.

          This topic has been done a few times though. Jayz2cents covered it well with the AMD APU series and found the same difference.

        • +2 votes

          @c0balt:

          Regardless, that test is meaningless. The OS will make a bunch of different decisions regarding memory (virtual memory size, paging file, prefetching, etc) when confronted with half the RAM. You can try to guess at the performance implications or you could just test 1x8GB vs 2x4GB in the first place.

        • -1 vote

          @dazweeja:

          Then there would have been a significant difference in all titles, especially more demanding ones than CS GO.

          Don't disregard pertinent information. If you are so certain that the tech guys on YouTube and general consensus when googling the topic are wrong, the put your money where your mouth is and replicate the test your way. Or find a source that says opposite, that would give credibility to your counter argument.

          When you find the same result, let us know!

          Here's another set of benchmarks where the amount of ram was the same yet still a huge performance increase in going dual channel from single channel:
          http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/dual-channel-memory-make-diff...

        • +1 vote

          @c0balt: The point here is that you can't have the amount of ram in the system and compare performance, regardless of what the real implications are. You are not comparing apples with apples as soon as you do 1 test with 4gb ram and another with 8gb. Working with ram management issues for VMWare related applications, the system certainly makes vastly different memory decisions. If you are going to put a comparison video out you MUST compare like for like and then jump to whatever conclusions.

        • +2 votes

          @Drifta:

          Mate, click on the source in the comment you just replied to.

          They tested it and found a huge difference. That is 8gb single channel lost out significantly compared to 2x4GB in dual channel. That's the argument - single vs dual channel, not the amount of RAM.

          "In this test, we had a very different result from when we tested the performance gain using dual-channel memory with an independent video card: using dual-channel memory on an integrated GPU provides a great performance improve in games.
          The use of dual-channel memory made a big difference in those tests because the main RAM is used as video memory and, differently from the “real” video cards, the video memory is not exclusive. Using dual-channel memory configuration, and not single-channel, is like exchanging a video card with 64-bit memory bus for another one, with the same GPU but 128-bit bus. It is the same performance impact."

          Read more at http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/dual-channel-memory-make-diff...

          If you are doubling your memory bandwidth bus then you are going to get a lot more out of an integrated GPU.

          The amount of upvotes on comments saying there is no difference, despite not a single source backing that information up, and multiple sources testing finding that dual channel RAM gives massive gaming performance gains on integrated graphics over single channel is really bad.

          People read these comments and base their purchases on the information. So it's important that they know to get dual channel over single channel on a machine that has an integrated GPU.

          Happy to actually change my mind if someone could find a decent source (if it's possible).

        • -1 vote

          @c0balt:

          "If you are so certain that the tech guys on YouTube and general consensus when googling the topic are wrong, the put your money where your mouth is and replicate the test your way. Or find a source that says opposite, that would give credibility to your counter argument."

          I made no claims about the performance impact of dual vs single channel memory on iGPU performance. Merely that as a test to measure this, the link you provided was meaningless. You can't have a test that changes two critical factors and conclude that the variability is related to just one. Your second link was relevant. You could have just posted that instead of a rant that had no relation to my comment.

    • +2 votes

      It says in the tech specs, that there is "NVIDIA GeForce 940MX 2GB DDR3" graphics option, but don't see it when actually selecting them on the build.

  • +1 vote

    What's the weight with the battery on?

  • +4 votes

    $879.99 with FHD + 256 SSD

    • +4 votes

      IMHO - you'd be better off buying the SSD separately then installing yourself. You'd get better value for money & have a 1TB hard drive to use elsewhere. Only (big) issue would be around warranty if anything went wrong though.

      • +1 vote

        Agreed - but make sure you can do that before buying.

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        Hopefully Lenovo have gotten rid of their one touch recovery rather than a CD as this makes changing hard drives a pain….

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          Also long as you keep the Windows Key, which should be on a sticker on the laptop, then you can just install an generic OEM version (using your key) of windows and download and install the drivers from Lenovo. Same same, but different, but the same.

          I did that with mine at one stage and it works great.

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          @Spectator:
          Didn't work for me recently but could of been a one off :(

        • +7 votes

          @Spectator: Isn't Windows licence data embedded in the BIOS these days as opposed to having stickers?

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          @Spectator: Laptops haven't had stickers for a few years now! last laptop I bought was 5 years ago which has a Windows Key stuck on it. "at one stage" would mean back in 2008 for you I'm guessing LOL?!

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          Why not download from their website?

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          @worthy1: You probably weren't using a "OEM version" install. I had to download a normal ISO from microsoft (or a mirror of their stuff) and modify a config file on the ISO to enable/change the version to OEM. (Or you could find a OEM version to begin with)

          Won't work otherwise. (My example was for Win7 though)

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          @PinzVidz: You can usually extract that info if it's built into the BIOS/image.

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          @Spectator:
          Yeh the issue was an upgrade, so the key I had was for Windows 8. After replacing the hard drive I found out Windows 10 doesn't work off keys (unless you buy new?) so the key was useless and I ended up having to use a previously bought windows 8 cd to reinstall the OS. It was then a nightmare trying to get the right drivers for all the hardware as they were coming up with quirks. Plus now stuck with windows 8.1 unless I buy 10.

          Still have some issues such as not being able to access my NAS and a few other quirks so I decided to jump on the Flex 4 deal instead :)

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        How easy is it for an ol' fart to install an SSD into a laptop? Also, does the hard drive stay in the computer and can you still use it for storage (ie, switch between the SSD and the hard drive)?

        • +1 vote

          Don't risk it.. get them to do it.. its worth the extra $30 and the Head F%ck

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          @Gavman:
          Thank you Gavman. A Head F%ck is something I can definitely do without :-)

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          @Gavman:

          Wait a minute … extra $30, or extra $150 to change config to SSD?

        • +1 vote

          @ifonlyiwasyounger: if you bought a 250gb ssd that would cost you around $120 to put in yourself. This way you pay $150 and they chuck it in for you and ensure windows is installed properly and activated ready to go. So ur saving around $30 to go thru the hassle urself.

          Some people want to choose their own drive or want the experience swapping it out themselves. If ur not of of those people just add it the order.

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          @Gavman:
          Thank you Gavman … I understand now.

        • +1 vote

          Unfortunately I don't see it on the Lenovo Services Training website yet.

          However the Hardware Maintenance Manual makes it look pretty easy, starts at page 57. 3 screws and lift off the bottom plate, most parts are readily accessible. Just be gentle handling the ribbon cables, gently flick them up with a fingernail, not a metallic screwdriver.

          https://download.lenovo.com/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/e470_e470c_e4...

          It also details how to create a recovery USB drive for reinstallation of the OS if you do change HDD, Page 31.


          It doesnt seem there is room in the laptop to run both HDD and SSD; that space is taken up by the battery.

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          @ifonlyiwasyounger:

          I'm not too sure where he's getting $30 from. You can buy a 240GB ssd for $88, so that would be a difference of $62 for parts…

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          $88 will do the job but is probably an inferior drive. I would go with a Samsung Evo 850 for $120 or 750 for ~ $100 mb cheaper on special somewhere. Point is why worry about 60 bucks if its means screwing around with something ud rather not being doing.

        • +1 vote

          @klumsybot:
          Thank you klumsybot - very useful info :-)

        • +1 vote

          the $88 Sandisk drives are pretty good, they cut the right corners to make them a good budget drive

          If you wanted to stay Samsung you could try the 750 for $99 I guess

          I'm not contesting that the 850 evo is a better ssd, but I don't think the +$30 (36% more) is worth it.

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          @klumsybot: do you think it is easy to clean the fan?

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        Would have liked if it had a DVD drive so you can swap it for a SSD and keep the 1TB HDD

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        Agreed but also a pain in the ass. Some people want to start using it as soon as they rip it out of the box and not F around.

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        Quick look on MSY says:
        240gb SSD for $88
        480gb SSD for $165

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          it's VERY easy.
          on my old E560 it was a case of popping off the back case, removing the hard drive caddy, removing the ssd from that caddy, popping in the new ssd, and putting the caddy back in place.
          lennies are heaps customisable

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          @KeplersLaws:
          I saw E560 for $699 on their website, 8GB RAM, 1TB, with DVD drive, but old i5. This model only came out last year , why you said your ' old ' E560 ?

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          @Aplpw:
          by old i mean not the new literally just released _70 models, but _60 released about a year ago. im guessing very similar architecture

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          @KeplersLaws:
          Thanks, my 3 years old ASUS will be super old now, more reasons for me to upgrade :)

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          Old i5 = i5-6200. The xx60 Lenovos are all 6th generation Intels.

          This deal is talking about an E470 (the 4 means 14" and the 70 means 7th generation)

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        Got any tips on installing that? I just received mine today and it's non-obvious - the sata connector attaches via a ribbon that is stuck to this foil thing which is stuck to the hard drive :(

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    "Ships in more than 4 weeks" :(

    • +3 votes

      FHD IPS is good enough as a laptop screen, the biggest concern for this deal is the weight "1.9kg" which is not portable at all for carrying around.

    • +11 votes

      My 14 inch full HD laptop from a fair while ago renders Windows 10 fine without scaling at all? Crystal clear and perfectly big enough to read without a magnifying glass.

      UHD on a 14 inch screen is sheer madness. Bad battery life/power draw and you have to use scaling for it to be usable. Even 1440p on a 14 inch screen is getting toward the stage of 'why do I need this'…

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    This is very tempting. Can anyone tell me is this good laptop ? I just use laptop for download movie typing word and rarely photoshop .

  • +2 votes

    7th Gen intel CPU?!? Whaaa when did that come out?

  • +1 vote

    Hard disk is the biggest drag. upgrade too ssd a must

  • +2 votes

    Man I just got an I3 e460 for $550. Bit annoying but I couldn't have waited anyway.

    Just a note from someone who's always used 12.5in ultraportables, these things are big.

  • -2 votes

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  • +1 vote

    Sometimes these deals are better than what I get wholesale. Thanks TA.

  • +1 vote

    Does it have a backlit keyboard?

  • +2 votes

    http://www.notebookcheck.net/Kaby-Lake-Core-i7-7500U-Review-...

    From what I can gather from this article it says:

    • 7th gen CPU is about 9-10% faster than 6th gen CPU of the same SKU

    • GPU it says it's about 20% to 30% faster.

    I didn't search very hard and this article is almost a month old so…

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      I read its not much diff at all and judging by the fact they barely told anyone they were releasing 7th Gen CPU's (hardly any publicity) id be inclined to believe so otherwise they would have made more noise about it rather than keep it a secret lol.

      • +1 vote

        Kaby lake's chipset (Union Point, 200 series) was supposed to integrate usb 3.1 controller instead of needing a third-party controller from someone like Asmedia.

        I predict Lenovo have chosen to keep on the previous chipset (Sunrise Lake, 100 series). I see usb 3.1 isn't listed in any of the specs. They might try to use USB 3.1 as an 'upsell feature' of the T470 or maybe L470 laptops from the budget E series.

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    Can anyone confirm if lenovo still does 14 days change of mind free return? Called them for the previous deal and said no

  • +1 vote

    Does anyone know if I can use 2 external monitors [HDMI & VGA] at the same time as the in built screen? So 3 monitors extended screen at the same time.

    • -1 vote

      Why? You have 3 (set of) eyes?

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      Generally yes. I have 2 older laptops at work that have a VGA and an hdmi ports and they are both capable of outputting to 2 external monitors plus the built in screen. So I'd imagine this one can too.

  • -1 vote

    No optical drive if that matters…

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    Thanks OP :) sister was looking for a laptop to use at home and this ticked all the boxes!

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    It would be good if it supports USB type C and has touchscreen.

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    14" HD (1366 x 768), horrible。 must upgrade to FHD + 256 SSD (cheaper to buy ssd separately if you have the ability to DIY.)

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    How easy is it for an ol' fart to install an SSD into a laptop? Also, does the hard drive stay in the computer and can you still use it for storage (ie, switch between the SSD and the hard drive)?

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