50 top paying profession for both men and women.
Nothing annoys me more then seeing politicians being up there they do a shocking job steal every $ they can and entitle themselves to tax payers money.
No mega surprises makes me wish i studied finance (wasnt smart enough for med)
http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/careers/australias-50-hi…
Surgeons actual incoming is a lot higher than the list would have you believe. As an example a Cardiologist is highly unlikely to earn more than a heart surgeon. You would struggle to find an orthopaedic surgeon in the country on less than 7 figures (and usually multiples of), apart from very junior doctors in the public system. What this really shows is that rich people can afford very good accountants to lower their taxable income to less than half of their real income. That applies for pretty much every job on the list.
How much do high class prostitutes make? i guess we will never know obviously don't declare their incomes for tax purposes
Actor / actress / models are also missing in the list.
I guess the list took average out of those in the same profession. There are some of those who earns millions, but perhaps many millions of them as well earn not much.
You've got to be joking. How do you know if the entire sex industry workers declare or don't declare their incomes?
With great salary comes great stress and responsibility. I would feel horrible for the rest of my life if I make a bad judgement during a neurosurgery and screw someone and their family's life up.
Does Justin Beiber count?
Hes giving millions permanent neurological damage
Is it too late now to say sorryyyy, cause you're… missing more than just your bodyyy
Dont worry, empathy is not high priority trait of a surgeon's personality.
Made the women's list!
There is NO way in hell a female Cardiothoracic surgeon working full time would only make $175,500. Or a neurologist or an orthopaedic surgeon making just over 150k, those figures are the average income, and are skewed due to female doctors working part-time. So don't you all get stressed about the gender thing, just can't tell.
Those can technically be from glass ceiling effects or gender inequality in opportunities as well. That said, I don't think anyone can say the gap in average income means that, the gap simply could be a result of what I said among with countless other explanations and it may be something to hint what might be going on before looking into the data.
In short, averages portray very small picture of what could be going on. Gender inequality can be hinted from just the average, but you can't claim anything on just the average.
Neurologists aren't surgeons so they get paid less.
There are also a lot of men in Neuro so it is surprising that the figure is so low.
The stock photography is gold. Man is wearing a suit being handed cash. Woman is in a clothing shop.
It's still not right that women are earning less even if they ARE working part time. It means that more women work part time and less men, because that is what society expects. Men are denied the right to part time work while women are denied the right to full time due to entrenched cultural bias. Medicine is particularly bad for this. You'll find loads of women working part time but if a guy tries to, it's a death knell for his career. Gives me the shits.
How on earth do you get $120K for being a Govt Tribunal member. Those positions are advertised in the local paper and often involve ZERO experience or qualifications at all.
It is really not that much money considering the responsibility some professionals have especially in the medical field.
There are some tradesman that can make that sort of income without the same duty of care or the same level of education or mental capacity.
TLDR: Doctors(especially surgeons), lawyers, financial workers, politicians. Some engineers and scientists. Oh and cricketers.
Most of those jobs on that list deserve their pay.
And then there's cricketers.
Programmer is not on the list :(
Quite sad views towards politicians. Right, wrong, correct, incorrect, they work for the country. Stop having a sook.
Well deserved views.
Everyone works for the country. it's just the rest of us do more and get paid less.
Everyone works for the country? I'm fairly sure the work motivation for the majority of tax payers nationwide is not associated with hopes of paying more tax to support the country. My understanding is that people work to feed themselves. Political roles are open to everyone and thus commonly criticised. Doing more work and getting paid less has nothing to do with having a sook about politicians.
Remind me to send a thank you letter to all those selfless pollies who worked so hard to cripple the NBN for the good of the country. I'm sure influence and money played no part in their decision making.
Politicians work for the country? This is the most naive statement I've seen in years. Politicians work for their party donors, and their primary skill is in getting the electorate to vote them into power so they can enact policies that are favourable to their sponsors.
As someone who works around and with politicians on a daily basis, you couldn't be more wrong. Unlike the US, the average Australian politician spends almost no time with donors. They spend most of their time with constituents dealing with highly emotive and stressful situations, or upskilling by becoming more knowledgeable about various areas of public policy or taking their time to engage with the various community. Even a decent (not good, or great) MP will generally work 12+ hours a day, 6-7days a week. A good MP is pretty much never off the clock. Very few people in federal public office are there for nefarious reasons.
Sure buddy. The best of the best. Unfortunately the results of the Independent Commission Against Corruption paint a far different picture.
Good point. Just due to the lack of knowledge some comments are not even worth replying to. Clearly shown in this thread. Pity I joined the band wagon.
Nothing wrong with questioning the wages we're all paying with our taxes. Consider supply and demand. even with minimum wages, being a Pollie would still be in massive demand given their influence to affect (or oppose) change. Perhaps the higher wages are to disincentivize a natural inclination to line ones pockets given the opportunity?
To the point, It should not be considered a career in the first place as we end up with the kinds of people who have the ambition and morals to rise to the top of a political party. introducing maximum terms of service say 4 years might help get rid of the self interested and bring in more people with experience of the real world.
That's actually the argument Singapore makes, I.e. pay politicians well so that they value the job and to discourage taking kickbacks.
Maximum terms are considered good and bad. Bad because then there is no incentive to address long term community needs like planning large infrastructure builds.
The time and dedication required to become a surgeon is huge. It is extremely competitive to get into speciality training - for example, cardiothoracic surgery only took on 5 trainees in the whole of Australia and New Zealand this year. For at least 5 years of your life (after you've managed to get into training) you work at least 7am-6pm weekdays and most weekends and get sent to random places in Australia by the college to complete your training (for at least 6 months at a time). All while studying for exams and eventually competing with heaps of others with the same qualifications for a fellowship position. Then when you finally finish your exams and become a fellow, you have to compete for a consultant position. Once you eventually get a consultant position the hours finally start to decrease, unless you start up private work of course!
I'm not saying that their pay is appropriate, just highlighting the sacrifice that is made to eventually make that amount of money! I assume that many of the other higher-paying jobs have similar sacrifice.
(The above is just my experience in the public hospital system, and the reasons why I could never be a surgeon!)
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How does a neurosurgeon make 577k? In NSW the salaries for hospital doctors top out at around 400k (including all benefits, allowances, etc).
Is it overtime? Private practice? Do people really have elective neurosurgical procedures? Are private hospitals even equipped for neurosurgical procedures?
I can see how an orthopedic surgeons or plastic surgeon can make 7 sigures with elective procedures in private practice … but no idea how a neurosurgeon would do this.
Elective neurosurgery = spinal laminectomies, people get them done all the time, pretty uncomplicated procedure. Not to mention as well that if you get an operation done publicly, you can elect to follow up privately.
Charlie Teo does private brain surgery and charges around $30,000 to resect an unresectable brain tumour to give patients a little while longer.
There's different tiers to hospital practice too - you can opt to take a package that includes patients with private health insurance, or you can choose to bill the providers yourself which earns you a bit more. There's also things like callbacks - if you're on call outside of normal working hours and a trauma comes in for example, you charge double time for the hours you spend at work. For a long and complicated operation, it's a lot of money.
That said being a neurosurgeon is shit if you want a life. The people that do it are truly amazing and they love what they do and they have to. They sacrifice everything to get onto the training programme (which can take years as it's so competitive, there are some people in the system who've been waiting to get on for ten years) and once on, endure brutal brutal working hours for many years.
I think you'll find a Neurosurgeon probably makes a hell of a lot more than that in real life.
Another quality piece of journalism the Telegraph has to offer…
There's only a select few who can truly make it out as traders. Most pretty much quit within a few years.
$150k now isnt what it was say 5 or 10 years ago. if you go on seek.com and set the minimum salary to $150k you will see plenty of jobs, some will surprise you. sprinkler technician anyone, tafe teacher? yup.
Tafe teacher…. No…. Just No. (Worst paid teachers in fact)
Shouldn't plumbers and electricians be on that list? Every couple of months there's a story on ACA about how they make more than surgeons etc. /sarcasm
Dr Strange deserved every dollar he made… probably regrets buying a lambo though.
Rocket Surgeon here; off the chart.
I'm sure that salary is out of this world!
Well I'm off to get my Paving Plant Operator degree
This data seems to be based on tax return. Looks like most surgeons are happy to pay tax!….