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The ICEmergency Medallion $19.95 + Free Standard Postage (Normally $3.95) @ I.C.Emergency

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Free standard postage on all orders using code FREEPOST at ICEmergency.com.au until Christmas

If someone you love were involved in an accident, you can be notified fast!

Does your family carry ID of who to notify in case of an emergency?

Everyone needs to carry I.C.Emergency information.

It's simple to load the information, and makes the ideal gift for people you really care about. 

I.C.E is internationally recognised by emergency responders as In Case Emergency                           
 
Only  $19.95  (FREE POSTAGE USING CODE FREEPOST) 

The ICEmergency USB comes with a pre loaded text file which contains all of the information they need to notify family or friends that you've been injured. 

  • The text file can be read by all computer operating systems. It takes less than 5 minutes to enter the information and I send instructions with every order.
  • You can add or delete any information on the file, it's your choice, you can add a photo to the file. 
  • 60 Day Money Back Guarantee 

There's nothing here a thief could use if your keys were  stolen. In fact, if you lose your keys, the finder can easily call you and arrange their return.

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  • Will I get in trouble with le popo?

  • +1

    unless you're selling very large objects, free postage isn't a bargain.

    This site is selling loose USB drives. They'd fit in an envelope for 50¢ postage or so.

    • Orders are fulfilled using Postpak Padded Bags and sent as a parcel, not a letter to ensure products arrive unscathed. :)

    • +8

      It's been a long while since you've posted a letter, hasn't it?

      • So he's not sending a padded letter.

  • +9

    Is this even a thing? Do they carry laptops around in case someone has a USB drive? Aren't there rules about plugging in uncontrolled storage devices into government systems?

    Wouldn't it be easier for the emergency responders if we just printed the information on paper and placed it in our wallets?

    To be honest this looks to me like someone found a way to sell cheap USB devices at a premium price to people who don't know any better.

    There's nothing here a thief could use if your keys were stolen.

    Couldn't a thief go on White Pages and use the name/phone number to look up an address and then use the keys to enter the premises?

    • +2

      I agree. A USB drive with a text file on information you have to fill in yourself…..

      What is the make/model/capacity/longevity of this device? Is it USB 3 for super quick transfer in emergencies?

      Also I'm worried about it saying "ICE" as dumb criminals who need a fix will try anything….

      Welcome to OzBargain :D

    • That would be the case should your details be on White Pages.

      • +2

        So you're saying it's possible?

        Would you mind addressing the rest of my questions?

  • +1

    Not be a JV* or anything but shouldn't the actual price be in the title?

    *No Negatives associated with being a JV is suggested or otherwise.

    • +3

      Spot on, JV would be proud of you.

  • the file is a RTF (Rich Text File)

    RTF stands for Rich Text Format

    Should it read an RTF?

    16k + likes on Facebook. Great effort Tony. I'm impressed

    • +2

      I think you can also refer to it as a "Rich Text" file. Technically, in the early 90s that would have been frowned on because of confusion with Rich Text (media type "text/richtext"), which along with enriched text (media type "text/enriched") was a precursor to Rich Text Format. But since there's no Rich Text file extension, and there is a Rich Text Format file extension (.rtf), the actual confusion in 2016 will be very weak.

      • Or, like a lot of people, you could say the extension (R-T-F), in which case it an 'an' would be correct. Either works, it just depends on how you like to pronounce your file extensions :)

        • +1

          Sorry for causing confusion. I was referring to the second line of the comment about Rich Text File vs Rich Text Format, not the third line that mentioned the incorrect article usage.

        • @twocsies: Ah, fantastic, all good then.

  • +2

    Plenty of free forms on Google if anyone wants to DIY
    Example

    • Of course, you could make your own however the design of I.C.Emergeny medallions stand out to first responders.

      • "Oh bloody hell another one that fell for it. I can't stick a random USB device in my computer. I hope this guy has important info with his ID in his wallet".

  • +9

    In case of emergency, clear my web browsing history.

  • +3

    Essentially this is tiny (storage wise) USB device which overcomplicates something which doesn't need to be.

    This is another case of someone designing a product regardless of it actually filling a need or gap in the market. I very much doubt paramedics/Doctor's are going to open this file. Correct me if you have spoken to these services and have an arrangement.

    Also patent pending?? For what? A USB device which stores basic text data? Good luck with that one.

    • I'm sure if you read the testimonials on the website or perhaps reviews on Facebook, you will find otherwise. The product has proven very useful in a variety of scenarios.

      • +2

        Hi TheJoshy, can you please exaplin the following off your site? "There's nothing here a thief could use if your keys were stolen."?
        I may have misunderstood.

        Does this mean that the data is encrypted?
        This info can easily be used for physical or identity theft.

        • -1

          The data doesn't have addresses etc that can be used to locate the doors for the keys.

          • the text you insert is also up to you
    • +1

      I'm having trouble understanding the neg. Nothing in your comment immediately suggests to me that you think it's "defective product", "major issues with retailer", and "not cheapest available".

      There are comments on their FB page that show at least 2+ doctors have opened the file.

      Surely there is something patentable. Whether it's the housing, the overall invention, or the way they print the logo, we just have no idea from "patent pending". That's

      https://www.google.com/patents/US20080016738

      So I'm left with the first statement, "USB device which overcomplicates". Is that the reason you negged? So it's defective because it overcomplicates?

      • -1

        If negging this deal will help save someones life then I'm all for it.

        I am advised by the Department of Fire and Emergency Services that the ability for first responders to review this information in real time at an incident scene may not be achievable in every instance due to the tempo of the scene and the types of devices the response vehicles carry that would enable the use of a USB.

        - HON JOE FRANCIS MLA (MINISTER FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES)

        • Sure, that might be a valid reason. But not a trace of it was in the original comment, so that is why I addressed each of the empty claims in that comment.

        • @twocsies: They clearly said "I very much doubt paramedics/Doctor's are going to open this file."

          Appropriate uses of negative vote: Defective product -> Major issue with product in that it doesn't work the way it should.

        • @kamoi:

          I don't see why we would need such a device to be accessed in real time every time. Doesn't it provide supplemental material that can optionally be used if the rescuer feels like it? Can you think of even one reason that someone could be injured if the file wasn't opened? And conversely, at least one paramedic has opened it.

        • Quite snarky to take part of a positive letter out of context.

        • @twocsies: Blood type, allergies, medical conditions.

        • @twocsies: It answers a question I asked, one that the deal poster ignored.

          Edit: Here, you can read the whole letter. It does not change the fact that first responders may not be able to review the information on stored on the USB.

        • -2

          @kamoi: Exactly. I read that snippet you posted from the letter and I thought he was saying something bad about the product. Then I read the whole letter and realised I'm talking with someone who thinks putting quotes out of context is going to get somewhere. Don't be snarky.

        • -1

          @twocsies: There is no need for personal attacks mate and name calling mate.

          Edit: Also, what he said was pretty bad considering the supposed use of the product.

        • @kamoi: You posted a snippet out of context. It seems snarky in my opinion. Feel better?

          And I'm not your mate. Please don't call me your mate.

        • @twocsies: Calm down mate.

        • @kamoi: No, you calm down.

        • @twocsies: Ok mate.

        • @kamoi: Thanks! Next time, it will be easier if you don't take things out of context.

        • @kamoi: I've got an idea. Why don't we contact the Minister of Emergency Services and ask them if what they wrote could be construed as supporting an argument that not purchasing "will help save someones life".

        • @twocsies: I didn't. I quoted the part which specifically dealt with first responders use of the device. I'm not going to post a wall of text if only 1 part is relevant.

        • @twocsies: lol. THIS is what out of context means. Congratulations :)

          As much as I'd love to continue this, I've gotta run to do some shopping. Will check back in later. I'm sure you will have something marvellous prepared. Take care mate :)

        • @kamoi: Sorry, but if you write "THIS is what out of context means" then you're right. You have written the word, THIS, without any context to confirm that you think this is a cogent comment:

          "save a life" + snippet of minister's letter (minister supports use of the device)

          Is it because you wrote that "if"? Just don't get it…

        • @twocsies: Marvellous. Proud of you mate :)

  • So you'll be ok …

    As long as you have a coronary at your laptop …

    So the emergency responder can read the usb …

    Just don't have a coronary away from a laptop …

    • In the event of a cardiac arrest, your body would be in a stage where it needs urgent rescue regardless of medical history. I can't imagine a scenario where you have a cardiac arrest and the paramedics pause so they can check your history.

      That said: all hospitals have plenty of computers so it has proven effective. Just check out the testimonials! :)

      • The testimonials on the website do appear to contain any examples of this device being used successfully. Can you please link to them.

        • -1

          It is not that hard to find this link.

          https://www.icemergency.com.au/pages/testimonials

        • -1

          @twocsies: Where are the examples of this being used successfully?

        • -3

          @pmupsinep: Probably they are the ones where people say positive comments.

        • @twocsies: I was not going to bother, seeing as I have no personal connection with this device, but then I was thinking, what are the chances I could find an example of this being used successfully in less than ten seconds. Wow, I was able to do it.

          Tony, would you believe ten minutes after I loaded it, I fell over in the Harvey Normans car park and broke my hip! So it already proved to be useful. The ambulance driver was most impressed and I'm showing it all my friends. Thanks again
          Robbie

        • +1

          @twocsies:

          The ambulance driver stuck an unknown USB drive in the ambulance onboard computer and praised you for it? Why am I not believing this.

        • @syousef: I have no connection with the device.

      • I can't imagine a scenario where you have a cardiac arrest and the paramedics pause so they can check your history.

        So you can't imagine a medic checking to see if the patient is wearing a braclet that indicates a life threatening allergy?

        If that's true please don't provide medical devices.

  • +1

    I think healthy people misunderstand ICE info. We used to keep info packs attached to the front and back doors. Important that it is easy to find, not that it is immediately accessible. Serves a different purpose to medical alert bracelets etc. I don't think this is for me, but I can see the value.

    • Thank you :)

    • PUT. IT. IN. YOUR. WALLET!

  • Negging for defective product, the product claims that emergency contacts will be notified fast by carrying this device. In fact this will only delay emergency services or anyone else as they try and work out what on earth this device is, obtain a computer to plug it in, and work out how it serves any better purpose than a printed tag on a keyring or a card in your wallet.

    • The product is not defective. The claims made state "loved ones can be notified fast" - much faster than trying to track down contacts based on a drivers license etc

      Proof is in the pudding

      If you're not satisfied, the product can be returned within 60 days for a full refund

      • +3

        They can't be notified "fast" as there is no capability for this USB storage device to rapidly notify anyone.

        Please provide proof that this product provides a faster way for relevant parties to be contacted over a keyring tag or a printed info card in a wallet.

        Please provide evidence how a paramedic will be able to rapidly utilise the information on this USB stick such as existing medical conditions and allergies.

      • +2

        You mean like carrying a contact phone number in your wallet alongside your license?

        Are you saying it's quicker to find a USB enabled computer with permission to read usb sources, virus check it, work out what the hell the format of the information is than it is to read a laminated card in a wallet?

        No.

  • +3

    If you have an iPhone you can enter emergency medical & contact info which can be accessed via the lock screen.

    Instructions (found via Google search) -
    Create your Medical ID: Open Health and tap Medical ID > Edit. Enter your emergency contacts and health information like your birth date, height, and blood type. Turn on Show When Locked to make your Medical ID available from the Lock screen.

    • +2

      Hehe now your I.C.E cannot beat this, unless you're on ice lol.

      I used to have a Sony Z1 (Android) couple years back and it already incorporated ICE contacts on lockscreen. So while this product does have a genuine purpose, and it certainly doesn't hurt to have one, I feel it is also somewhat superfluous. If I came to aid someone in an emergency, checking if they had one of these jingling ICE box wouldn't be the first thing I would do.

      Perhaps I should start carrying an OTG cable (USB type A to Lightning slash Micro slash Mini USB ports😌)…

      "OMG hey are you okei?????? Hold on, you have an ICE… oh oh I seen dis on Ozbargain.. hang on before I call the ambo lemme quickly link up on my phone to see what your instructions are…"

    • Medics are unlikely to check your phone. They will check for ID.

      • If you have a life threatening allergy or similar, put it on a bracelet.
      • All other info should be with your license. Medics will check for your ID once you're stable enough.
  • +1

    I think you guys are being too harsh.

    The website even says that this isn't an either/or kind of thing - you can have ICE on your phone, and you can buy this for a second option if you want to.

    He's not a giant multinational company, so obviously the price will be higher. But I think it's a good idea for those who would like a peace of mind for their loved ones.

    • Exactly my thoughts. $19.99 seems too steep for me, but if I had a mild condition, I might consider this device. Using this device will never hurt someone, and could occasionally be helpful. I imagine that the people negging have no use for ICE information.

      • Do you stick random USB devices in your computer and just hope they don't contain a virus? Why they hell would you expect medical professionals to do so with company equipment?

        • -3

          I really hope they are using frozen images. How can you infect the frozen image?

          But if I was a medical professional and I saw a device labeled ICE and I needed ICE information, I would not be worried about viruses. I would dare say it's safe to assume that the device was not infected. Seems like you're convinced it's a bad device, so you're brainstorming a lot of reasons here and hoping some of them stick.

          The sad part is that I can't neg deals that have unsafe electricals (not certified for use in Australia), but mods are happy for a pileon of negs for a medical safety device that will probably never get used, but has some support from relevant ministers. Something is wrong with ozb.

        • -2

          @twocsies: As for why the negs stand here but not on unsafe electronics, I guess it's because of advertising $$$.

        • @twocsies:

          Don't come anywhere near any machine I use if you are going to assume an unknown device isn't infected.

          Frozen image? What imaginary thing is that? Patient records aren't "frozen".

        • @syousef: A frozen image is one way to reduce the impact of viruses. Every time the machine is turned on, the frozen OS is loaded, not any modifications that a virus might have caused. Same as booting from a live CD.

        • @twocsies:

          You have a wonderful imagination but data has to be stored somewhere and in the real world viruses have in recent years taken down both hospitals and NSW ambulance system. Even with those precautions in place the changing patient data would still be at risk of being tampered with or destroyed. If you administer one of these systems and are even a little bit competent, under no circumstances do you encourage staff to stick random devices into your machines.

          Here:
          http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/royal-melbourne-hospital-a…
          http://www.smh.com.au/technology/security/nsw-ambulance-serv…

          Overseas:
          http://www.zdnet.com/article/computer-virus-attack-forces-ho…
          https://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/11/computer-virus-cripples-…
          http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/thousands-patients-turn…

        • @syousef: I freeze my images or use live CDs.

        • +1

          @twocsies:

          Good for you. Relevance?

        • @syousef: I suggest that it is the hospital's job to do their IT, not yours. There are things they can do, that you are ignorant of, that can mitigate the harm from these devices.

        • @twocsies:

          Your assumption of my ignorance when you know nothing about me or what I do for a living is frankly quite ridiculous.

          It is standard IT security practice not to allow foreign USB devices on a computer network. If you actually want to learn something here's a reference that government organisations (including public hospitals) have to abide by:

          https://www.asd.gov.au/infosec/ism/
          Particularly section 3:
          https://www.asd.gov.au/publications/Information_Security_Man…

          "Control: 1418; Revision: 0; Updated: Apr-15; Applicability: UD, P, C, S, TS; Compliance: must; Authority: AA
          Endpoint device control software must be used within SOEs to prevent unauthorised
          removable media and devices from being used with workstations and servers."

          "Control: 0337; Revision: 3; Updated: Sep-11; Applicability: UD, P, C, S, TS; Compliance: must not; Authority: AA
          Agencies must not use media with a system that is not accredited to process, store or communicate the information on the media."

          There are more references in the manual. I'm not going to bother digging them up. You can do it just as well.

          You are either out of your depth on this conversation or you are trolling. STOP.

        • -2

          @syousef: Ok, since you do IT for hospitals, I apologise. I didn't know that you are responsible for the IT security practices that are in question, and had rank over the WA Minister of Emergency Services that suggested it would be an appropriate device.

        • -1

          @twocsies:

          I don't do IT for hospitals but I have had to become familiar with that manual. FYI it's not just government departments who use it.

          I know nothing about WA Minister of Emergency Services specifically but our current batch of MPs say all kinds of foolish disprovable things. There are plenty of politicians who "believe" man made global warming is in question, believe vaccines cause autism, disbelieve the evidence for evolution, and some who believe in a 6000 year old Earth. I wouldn't base my argument on the truth of a statement made by an MP.

        • -1

          @syousef: Personally, for exactly the reasons you detailed, I am more inclined to trust a government minister than some random person on the Internet. Nonetheless, maybe you can agree that client side control of USB devices is bound to fail.

        • @twocsies:

          You don't need to "trust" me. I've cited evidence. That evidence is provided by the Australian Defense Signals Directorate which is the part of the Department of Defense tasked with Cybersecurity.

          http://www.asd.gov.au/

          But go ahead. Keep arguing.

        • -1

          @syousef: Personally, I've recently used a USB for receiving copies of medical imaging data; in fact it seems to be a standard procedure. So in reality, there is a good chance that a ICE USB could be viewed.

          Whether it should be viewed is a completely independent question. How relevant IT is interpreting "authorised" devices is another, but a brief search found no connection between the evidence you provided and hospitals or emergency services. I just don't see the point in belaboring it on the client side.

          I would be convinced by a strongly worded directive that clearly targets the health sector not to use these devices, but I'm not seeing one. Such a tact brought to the ACCC would be more effective in preventing the problem, if it's really as big as you claim.

        • @twocsies:

          The USB you received was not sourced from an unconscious stranger.

          You didn't look very hard regarding policy.
          http://www0.health.nsw.gov.au/policies/pd/2013/pdf/PD2013_03…

          "Usage of personal storage media such as external storage devices is in accordance with the
          Use and Management of Misuse of NSW Health Communications System PD2009_076"

          http://www0.health.nsw.gov.au/policies/pd/2009/pdf/PD2009_07…

          "It is acknowledged that there are circumstances where staff use USB devices for work related
          purposes. However there are certain risks associated with the use of these devices. These
          include risks to the confidentiality of patient information and risks that files uploaded from the
          devices may contain viruses and other malware. Use of these devices must be in accordance
          with the policies and procedures of the local health organisation’s Information Security
          Management System and must meet the requirements of the health organisation’s virus
          protection arrangements. Approval to use such devices shall be on a case-by-case basis and
          subject to approval at the appropriate level within the health organisation. Where USBs are used,
          all files stored on them that contain confidential information must be password protected. "

          "Staff must not use NSW Health communication systems and devices:

          to connect any personal or non-work laptops, disk drives, PDAs, or stand-alone or
          wireless modems, to any NSW Health communication system or device, unless they have
          obtained prior written permission from the local Information Services Director. Permission
          should be provided on a case-by-case basis consistent with NSW Health IT security and
          standards. "

          Are you done trolling me yet? I live in NSW. Are you going to ask me to dig this up for WA as well? Are you going to start arguing that the language is ambiguous? To any sensible person it should be clear that you have lost this argument. Get over it.

  • +1

    This testimonial has made me certain I want nothing to do with your product flashing up on your web site:

    Testimonial flashing up on your web site:

    "Needed one of these for my daughter instead of finding out hours after she passed away
    MICHELLE FULLARTON"

    Really? Using the name of a grieving mother??? Suggesting that if you don't buy this you're more likely to die.

    Disgraceful!!!!

    From the FAQ on your web site

    "Can Ambos and Police read these?
    Many ambulances and police these days have computers onboard, but the term ICE is internationally known for In Case Emergency. All hospitals have computers to read the usb if it's required. If in doubt, please check your local authorities."

    No, no ambulance driver or hospital staff is going to plug in an unknown USB device and just hope it doesn't contain a virus or that the antivirus set up on the machine will pick it up if there is one.

    I'm negging because it's not a bargain, not practical, you are misinforming the public, you are preying on fear and your testimonials are at best insensitive and in the worst poor taste.

    • Michelle posted that comment on our Facebook.

      • -1

        Whether you agree with her statement or not, you should not be using a mother's grief to sell your product. It's disrespectful.

        • Yet you use the testimonial to support your disagreement with the product? At least you can edit your post to leave off her name so it doesn't pop up in searches for the next decade.

        • @twocsies:

          What hypocrisy is this? You're just trolling. If I had edited it you'd probably complain that I misrepresented it. Here's the difference. I'm not trying to sell something using her name. These guys are.

        • @twocsies:

          Also I did not reveal any new names. They did.

  • What are the features and benefits of the product you are selling compared to Medical ID?

    Ref. Medical ID - https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT207021

    Can someone with an Android device confirm if similar function exists like Medical ID for Apple?

    • It looks like native support is coming in Android N. www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2016/3/10/11193594/android-n-e…

      From what I saw, there are also quite a few Android apps available. This sudden interest makes me speculate that a relevant patent may have recently expired.

      As for benefits of info on a keyring, I'd say that it's valuable if the wallet and phone are not with the person of interest. It would work similarly to having on the keychain a little red canister labelled ICE containing a paper with all the details.

  • +1

    Sounds like maybe useful for USB hackers

  • I.C.E.

    USB drive
    slide out

    LOL - that is so randomly obtuse,

    What a pointless object.

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