Ok, this might ignite a 12 years old debate, however, I'm looking for a fact, how many of you move from Android to iPhone and vice versa and then come back?
If you own both at the same time, then please don't vote.
Also please put comment if you switch to iPhone from Samsung Note 7
iPhones are overpriced, underpowered, 'disposable' and behind in innovation.
The first models were innovative compared to what else was on the market. Hence why they've been able to exist in the market as they do today. Their most recent iPhone has a lot of stats that are much worse than my Oneplus One from 2013. Obviously this doesn't mean the oneplus one is better as the iPhone OS is lighter and quicker but as any iPhone user knows, the iPhone is unable to keep up with updates to which the phones eventually deteriorate after about 2-3 years to the point in which they need to upgrade.
Whilst I don't believe that the iPhone is nessicarily a bad phone, its hideously overpriced for the fact that they are literally disposable. But the people that buy iPhones dont seem to care about this as long as they are able to ascertain the 'wank' factor associated with owning an iPhone.
This could just be my experience of owning iPhones. My iPhone 4, home button went unreliable in under 2 years, top button broke around 3 years and I had to get rid of it. Battery life at this point was horrid and yeah. iPhone 5, bought at 2 years old, kept for a year before battery wouldn't even last an hour of screen on time and it was slow.
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^not really i think most ozb members are fans of android not apple so you will be fine.
yeah apple is just way too expensive. one of their fans told me because you will use the phone for at least a year therefore $1,500 is cheap.
well….
I feel like people on here who do froth a good iPhone would be more riled up to neg my comment as opposed to the upvoting of my comment from those who are into androids haha.
Yeah its insane, I know a couple that both upgraded to the iPhone 7 from the iPhone 6 and they literally said that there is no difference. 10/10 job good investment nice stuff clap clap
I feel like people on here who do froth a good iPhone would be more riled up to neg my comment
Nope, they already know they have the better advice, no need to go on long monologues about how terrible Android is when you happy and secure in that knowledge.
It's obvious when you look at the reality: a device made to spy on you by the worlds largest online advertising business is just worse, duh.
All true, but the one advantage of the fanboy obsession (or in many cases simply an inability to look beyond Apple or on the android side Samsung) is the also inflated resale prices. If you lay out for one and then sell and upgrade each year it can work quite well.
I've had a iphone but wouldn't go back to one. My daughter has one and my son has an ipad. They are fine but I just don't like ios very much and it still looks much the same as it did back in the days of the iphone 4.
It really depends on what you exactly mean by 'underpowered'. When it comes to CPU performance, A10 chip in iPhone 7 has exceptional performance and benchmark results. You probably have different criteria for power though.
Apple's SoC in my opinion were always decent. Apple tend to focus on single core performance far more whereas Android devices tend to focus on multicore performance (hence why Apple has less cores than Android ones do), and that is reflective of how different two OSs are.
Though I never understood people using those to say which one is better, since that's comparing an apple to an orange.
Yes, that is true. Although the way I see it (as a software developer) is that in most cases an average user is unlikely to use software on his phone that would effectively use more than two cores. From my understanding only apps that require heavy work like audio/video processing are perfectly suited for more than two cores since things can be easily paralleled there.
Interesting though that iPhone 7 still beats every other Android device in Geekbench 4 multi core benchmark.
@brightaussie: I was under the impression that Android uses multi core fairly well, from Anandtech's article on it. Anyways, it'd be hard to compare both OSs just on benchmarks, core numbers etc etc and that's where I was getting at.
I've seen it from both sides like Apple fans using single core performance as the only indicator of performance or Android fans using core number as the only indicator of performance.
Slight sidenote, I do think Apple did a good job with the A10 chip. Probably because they've finally implemented big.LITTLE solution.
I use Android and iPhone together. I prefer Android as it's much more customisable and easier to use. Can't beat that Nougat quick access.
I started with Android, swapped to an iPhone, went back to Android after two iPhones, and went back to iPhones again
I went from Android to iOS, and I guess the main thing keeping me here now is the amount of apps etc that I have bought .. though realisticly I probably wouldn't miss 99% of them really. Still I'm quickly getting bored/frustrated with Apple. I haven't upgraded my phone in over 3 years. If the next iPhone is once again "more of the same, slightly better" I'll think more seriously about going back to Android.
I am light user and I do like iPhone. But its price is simply un-affordable even on plan. I don't feel like buying iPhone 6SE or iPhone 6 which might fits the budget. So Android keeps going strong.
Was an Android user for ages, but decided to try Apple as all my Androids became laggy after 6months+ of use even after resetting it to factory. I've had my Iphone 6 now for 2 years + and doesnt really have a lag issue. But I HATE Itunes and have no idea how to use it still. Bought a 128gb Iphone and have no idea how (or maybe its not possible -.-) to transfer my downloaded shows into it. Would go back to Android if it doesnt lag, or stay with Apple if they get rid of Itunes or make a drag and drop option or something…
that restrictive OS is what I hate about Apple, FFS, it's my device, let me do the F I want it right?
i know right?!?!? i was just thinking about it earlier. Thats almost the same as me buying a laptop and then only being able to download/use apps that they approve off :@
As best I know, you're shouldn't need iTunes at all. Six years ago, Apple announced the whole PC Free thing:
Once you’ve completed the iOS 5 update, you no longer need to be connected to iTunes at all. For anything. No, really. It may be hard for a longtime Apple mobile user to wrap their head around, but all the business of setting up, activating and other initial duties can be handled away from the computer. This does come with a couple caveats…
With the launch of iOS 5 gone are the days when you buy a new iOS device, turn it on and see the infinitely annoying "Connect to iTunes" screen and you aren't able to use the device until you get home and set it up with iTunes.
I'm happy to be corrected though.
I had a read through the link, and it seems like this is another version of Itunes, just that you dont need to plug it in?
I would like to have something would allow me to essentially 'drag and drop' files I want into my device, I dont understand Syncing at all, or sometimes when I create a folder to transfer files it will be greyed out? I dont think D&D is possible of Apple. Thanks for your info anyway though :)
Ex-Apple user, now cheap China phone.
I'll happily return to Apple if they ever improve the price, but that seems highly unlikely.
Remember this isn't just Apple. Similar high end phones are just if not more expensive, eg: new google phone, samsung etc
From Android to Android…No apple in between
I have an Android tablet (that I only use for videos now) and an iPad mini 4, I am probably going to go back to an Android tablet. I don't care about the price as long as it gives me what I expect from the price I pay but I find that it simply doesn't.
The OS feels too restrictive (which can be a blessing in disguise for some, but not for me). Some of the peeves are from how I don't own a Mac, an iPhone, and refuse to pay for larger iCloud space since Apple's products work well with each other and offer more features. I am not going to change my PC, I hate the hassle of getting used to a different OS much.
I think some Apple fans around me hyped it up too much for me. How intuitive everything I think only applies when you are used to iOS. How iOS has better app selection feels questionable everytime I see an app that's only on iPhone or displays something along the lines of "this app is not optimised for blah". How iOS just works kinda fails on me every time I see little bugs here and there or feel like certain features are missing.
I went from apple to android to apple to android and I now will never go back.
I think it was because the s5 was a little underwhelming, it's performance died fast. However the s7 is amazing and now I wouldn't dream of going back. I think a lot of it depends on what type of phone under android you have your experience with.
Anyone moves from Samsung Note 7?
How is it a 12 years old debate if the 1st iPhone was in 2007 ?
2017-2007 = 10 years and even back in 2007-09 era, there was hardly a debate. Probably the debate and rivalry started 2010 and thereabouts.
I've flipped flopped between the two ecosystems many times over the years, but most recently went from a Xiaomi Redmi 3 Pro back to iPhone 6s.
For me, I use the same apps between the two ecosystems (e.g. Facebook, linkedin, evernote, dropbox, whatsapp, spotify, etc.). And while functionally the apps work the same way, I find the iPhone apps and iOS just a little bit more polished, and have some subtle nuances and cohesiveness in terms of the UI.
The biggest one for me was the memory management though - with MIUI, it just keeps killing apps left and right. Open an app, switch a few times and come back and most likely your app has been killed and you have to start over. I enabled developer options and set the memory management to low or off, but then it ran like a dog.
Maybe with a Samsung or a Google Pixel, the above points might be addressed better.
Couple of things I miss from Android (or maybe the particular phone) - super battery life - could use apps and play games all day with abandonment. Also expandable storage and being able to download media and save it on the card.
Android all the way, never had an iPhone, I have an iPad that I bought for media consumption though and absolutely hate it because of its restrictive OS! FFS! Just a lil example on how good droids have been for me, I still have the Nexus 4 I bought when Google released it in 2012 and I've flashed a Nougat rom in it and it works like a charm. I get that official support may be dropped a bit earlier, but if you know your way around, your old phone is still a workhorse.
Began with Nokia, then iPhone4 -> iPhone 5 (didn't like it) swapped for Samsung note 2 (loved it but missed my apps I spent hundreds on) -> iPhone 6 (was gonna change to samsungn note 4 but that flopped, so waiting for the new note that won't explode)
iPhone user here… seriously considering Android.
A few things prevent me:
If I can find solutions to all of these, I would switch in a heartbeat… I don't particularly like dealing with Apple's way of doing things and want to customise.
thanks!
Firstly, with steps 1 and 3, you must root your device for it to work. You must check if the android device is rootable and it also requires a factory reset when doing so.
There are two options for this, Nandroid and Titanium Backup. With Nandroid, you are essentially backing up the whole phone (Besides the internal storage) and you can restore this back at any time. Absolutely amazing application - and its free! It is also all done without needing a computer (Unless your phone doesn't have enough storage). On the other hand, Titanium Backup is one of my favourite applications for this. You might have to pay $7.50 if you want it to be automated, but you can essentially backup every application + its data. The free version requires you to press "Okay" for every single app which is kind of a pain. So when you factory reset your phone, you just restore these backups and you will be back to where you started and you don't need a computer for this as well. Backups from both Nandroid and Titanium Backup will be saved on the device and you can just transfer it to your computer for later use. I think with Mac though, you need to install Android File Transfer, but its a one time thing.
Honestly, Androids are secure as long as you download all of your applications from the play store. If you are downloading your stuff from random websites, then thats when your phone becomes insecure (Unless they are trustworthy applications on trustworthy websites). There are a few firewalls, but I am not sure how they work because I never felt a need for them.
An application called "Adaway" is an amazing application for this. It blocks all the advertisements on websites (Even ozbargain… sorry Scotty!) and its just great. Although it doesn't block youtube ads which is a bummer.
The only benefits I see to Apple is iMessage, its build quality and its amazing customer service.
Thanks for that!!
I read that rooting the device can disable certain functions in certain phones (e.g. Samsung pay (not sure if that is worth anything). & Sony disabled something when their Z phones that are rooted, I don't know what it was), and then once that "trip wire" is switched on, it prevents you from going back to a stock normal device.
As for the other points… it's serious food for thought!
I really appreciate the time you took to respond!
No worries! At least you say thanks!
From my personal experience, there are a couple of applications that don't work: 7-Eleven Fuel App, Android Pay (Not sure about Samsung Pay) and Pokemon Go. But there's something called systemless root by Magisk (I am not sure if it is available with all android devices. I use a Nexus 6P) where it wont tick off the tripwire. Despite this, the 7-Eleven Fuel Application didn't work for me, but Android Pay and Pokemon Go did. I think with Sony, if you rooted it, the camera quality went potato… so you DEFINITELY have to do some research before you buy.
Went from nokia to apple 3g 16gb, back then it was pretty darn good.
They pushed the 3gs out and i was thinking if im going to be upgrading a handset every year it might as well not look the same.
Then i went android and my first taste android was back on my nokia n900 and then a real android handset which was a SE x10a, which i loved romming and really getting the most out of it. When apple introduced the 4s i sold my 3g for 270 bucks and used that to progress my want of android handsets even further.
I dont think ill ever go to apple again because i see a lot road blocks for me when i have to sort out hurdles for my wifes 6s plus iphone.
Looks to me like Android wins hands down but Android phones until recently have nearly always had a much bigger screen. Not sure if this affects preference. Certainly does for me.
I hate Apple's priority ways and have been IBM compatible, moving on to Android all the way … BUT … I just got an Ipad Pro 9.7 and it is my favourite thing in the world. I have never had such a responsive and powerful handheld device to work from before, and the pictures and video it takes are amazing! I feel cheap and dirty, but super satisfied.
I have gone back and forth. My first smart device was an ipod touch 3rd gen. I had it and I loved it. I naturally upgraded to iphone 4 and after that, I went into full nerd mode and I tried various phones/tablets from Galaxy S2, Nexus 4,7, iPhone 5, Galaxy S3, Lumia 530 and an LG G4.
I personally like iphones better because it was my first smart mobile OS and I have invested alot in apps and contents.
But after going full nerd mode, what I realised is that two platforms are both excellent and STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM WINDOWS MOBILE.
Mine is in relation to an ipad. I went down android now I'm back with an iPad.