[Backorder] Sapphire RX 580 Pulse 8GB EU 216.61 (~AU $317.57) Delivered @ Amazon France

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Was looking for an RX 580 8GB in Australia but couldn't find one that was less than $400 delivered then saw this mentioned in a comment by stanndog: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/4877520/

Edit: Price is now EU 293.64 so I've marked this as expired.

Edit: It's back to original price now so marked as unexpired.

Price history at CamelCamelCamel.

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Comments

  • +53 votes

    Should be rated R - Not to be sold to miners

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    Nice find.

  • +5 votes

    I like to use this Rank List to see where all the cards are at. This is a nice top 20 card.

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    Just to confirm, this is an approximate equivalent to the GTX 1060?

    • +2 votes

      Yes

    • +2 votes

      I have both. To answer your question:
      For mining purposes, they are quite similar.
      For gaming, the RX580 is better than the GTX 1060.

      • +8 votes

        It depends on the title.
        Don't get too caught up into "future-proofing" or FineWine, you will regret it like many before you.

        Why?
        Consensus is that AMD cards get better with time, but Nvidia cards get worse. Let's do a case study!

        The new 28nm lithography was hitting mainstream in 2012, with that the GTX 680 was released in March 2012.
        The comparable AMD HD7970 was released in January 2012.
        Upon release some titles the AMD was better, and some Nvidia was better.
        Overall, the Nvidia had more wins and it did that whilst using less electricity, less heat, and less noise. Not to mention, the Nvidia cards were running stock speeds and had headroom to overclock whereas the AMD cards were pretty much overclocked from the factory and had very little headroom to gain.

        Fast forward in time, Nvidia pretty much rebranded the GTX 680 as the GTX 770, then discontinued support in early 2014.
        However, AMD rebranded/boosted the HD7970 to the GHz-Edition and bumped memory to 3GB's. They rebranded the same card again to the R9 280X. Since then AMD has slowly been releasing driver support/enhancements, the last major one being the ReLive Crimson drivers… which saw a great improvement for DX12 Polaris cards (RX480, RX470). Also good improvement for DX11 GCN1.2 cards (R9 390x/R9 290x, R9 390/R9 290). And maybe a hair improvement to the R9 280X/HD7970GHz/ HD 7970.

        So based on the logic of AMD's "Fine Wine" technology a:
        - R9 280X should easily defeat the GTX 680
        - and even an early 2012 HD7970 should outperform a GTX 770 from mid-2013

        However what we see TODAY is that all FOUR cards aren't good when it comes to DX12, and they all perform better on DX11.
        And that there is a small but noticeable performance and efficiency difference from the lowest HD7970 to the highest R9 280X.
        Whilst the GTX 680 is virtually identical to the GTX 770.
        Yet the GTX 680 is still better than the HD7970 on many titles, and even beats the R9 280x too. Assuming both cards have the equivalent 2GB/3GB/4GB GDDR5 RAM.
        So Nvidia cards "don't go to poo" as soon as you buy it…. they just have well-polished drivers from the get-go.
        AMD cards are usually more powerful than Nvidia cards on paper, yet they aren't as efficient or as polished.
        By polished-drivers I'm talking about actual games, not synthetic benchmarks.
        However AMD makes up for these short comings by overclocking their cards from factory, lower prices, and FreeSync technology.

        So at the end of the day; everything depends on which title, settings, and Direct3D API you choose.
        The performance difference from the RX 470 (4GB) to the RX 580 (8GB) is small enough to confuse people about where the GTX 1060 lies.

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          +1

          "finewine" doesn't exist. It is only because AMD has used the same/similar architecture meaning new drivers are still good for older cards. Nvidia uses new architecture making it harder to keep increasing performance for older cards.

    • +1 vote

      580 is better for gaming particularly Vulkan. 1060 6GB is more comparable to the 480. It really depends on the game though and 1060 6GB is a great card for DX11.

  • +2 votes

    All the hype to get into crypto when the smart money is probably rushing for the door.

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    Any clue approx when these orders get fulfilled? Also what's warranty like for Sapphire - particularly international warranty?

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    good price but I'm not sure how long that wait will be.

  • +2 votes

    With the drop in Etherium prices, I'd say we'll see better price son GPU's. This looks to pretty much be on point with the R9 290x (aside from having more RAM)

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    can anyone tell me if i can cancel this item once ordered. I'd like to see what date I receive from amazon but if it's months would prefer to cancel.

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    honestly id give it a week or two and GTX 480/580s will be dumped on the used market for half this price. btc/eth just crashed and people are gonna wanna jump out

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      much risk in buying these?

    • +1 vote

      could recover mind you and prices could go the other way.. what a strange world we live in where tech doesn't constantly fall in price!

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      1. You mean RX, not GTX.
      2. Yep, you're right about them being dumped on the market, but it's not just because the price tanked. It would have happened within a month anyway, because the mining difficulty has been doubling every month as well.
      • +1 vote

        Dirty miner here, definitely get your cards in the next month(approx) many are hitting the market and getting restocked(Wait for retails to drop back down in price please), most people that try keep ontop of crypto happenings knew this was going to happen and ETH would plateau out after a drop, then it will see a rise again followed by a much larger drop compared to this.

        Honestly, the biggest worry on long-term miners minds is when etherum swaps protocol. This could happen in a year, or tomorrow, but its inevitable.
        If you're a small time miner and you've just read this and felt sorrow come over you, look into long term investment in top 50 coins that are quantum-proof (like iota).

        (1st of august will most likely be as low as eth will go this time)

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          You can also like, shock, horror, mine other things, though at the moment it looks like Nvidia is the better bet for more flexibility.

        • -1 vote

          Dirty miner here as well (down-scaled 2 weeks ago).
          I try to keep coin investments separate from mining.
          Mining is about payments in AUD / day.

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          Do you mine on Claymore? I got some BTC in my wallet, but how do you withdraw them into AUD (cash).

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          is there any risk in buying used Mining cards?

          Have they been treated OK, or being on 24/7 for months on end tend to cause issues?

          Also where do they drop them? Ebay? I am guessing you cant return them if you get a faulty one.

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          @mavis30551: Honestly at this stage, you have to be prepared to dump some serious money into a quite professional setup if you want to start using specialty cards and I would only suggest you try if you really wanted - If you had free/green energy.. Even then with the free energy and hardware depreciation that is hard to explain to the taxman.. With your new equipment brought, you get dropped into the arena with chinese miners that can pump and dump entire markets and have been mining since the bitcoin boom (With all the knowledge that comes with that).

          So, now that I've found seemingly the most negative (but true) way to look at it, did you have anything else you were curious about? xD

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          @notewar: I do indeed mine on claymore at the moment - Be happy you have BTC its by far the easiest to swap to a currency, try somewhere like coinbase. (Warning, high KYS (ID)verification with them)

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          @dfaktz:

          Thank for your reply. Much appreciated.

          How about coinjar? e.g. transfer BTC from my wallet to coinjar and then withdraw. They seems to have lesser fees.

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          @dfaktz:

          Thanks for your response.

          I dont plan on mining for coins, but I was wondering if its risky buying a used GPU from a Miner to play games on :P

        • +1 vote

          @mavis30551: Well, I coulda saved some time with my writeup! Heh.. I'd have to say yes its fine if the price makes sense, try stick to new cards where even if the person lies, it would have had to be brought in the past year or two.
          Just make sure its at a nice price for you taking on the risk!

  • +1 vote

    GTX 480/580's are mighty old fermi cards, you'd be getting ripped if you paid that amount.

    Mind you I'm pretty sure you meant RX480/580. =P

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      you would be correct! i remember fermi, the old GTX 480 PC mounted heater and egg frypan combo with bonus graphical capabilities.

  • -1 vote

    Well, it's reading as temporarily unavailable and cannot be added to the cart. Also, it's 237 EUR which is about 347, so I guess the deal is over. Cheers though for spotting, not enough PC deals lately.

    • +3 votes

      It's still working, the deal was always on backorder that's why it's in the title.

      I have no problems adding it to the cart and checking out. VAT will be removed at checkout which is how you get the EUR 216,50 total.

      Proof

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        Of interest, google translate seemed to have broken the 'add to cart button'in chrome. So I did it in IE then logged in again through chrome. Annnd there it is. Naughty translate!

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    The wait on the ETA email is killing me!

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    For those who don't speak French, are people just using Google translate to order?

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    what are the chances of :

    A/These all getting cancelled

    or

    B/ Delivery being 3months+

    or

    C/ being left in limbo with no confirmation on delivery

  • +1 vote

    Backorder for graphic card these days is such a pain. Stocks will probably come in months.

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    would totally pull the trigger if the deal appeared a month earlier.

  • +2 votes

    Ordered 1, I'm in no rush and if the prices fall befire it's available can always cancel. I had a 570 on back order which is now cancelled.

  • +1 vote

    Thanks OP ordered 25 For mining fun. Will take the rig to my uni and use their power.

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