Cigarette Smoke (and Occasionally Pot) from Tenant Downstairs.

The tenant directly below me smokes heavily and the odour fills up my living room.

Any ideas about what I should do? Not a big fan of inhaling second hand smoke.

There is 1 year left in the lease and the building is not smoke free.

Open to all suggestions

Comments

  • +64 votes

    Step 1: tell him to smoke more pot
    Step 2: wait for your room to fill with smoke
    Step 3: inhale deeply
    Step 4: ???
    Step 5: profit

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      I wonder what's with ??? In step 4 is :)

      • +7 votes

        Bikies

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          lol

        • +3 votes

          I think you meant bikkies :P

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          @lordezekiel: costco portion bag size.

      • +1 vote

        Sell as lakefront property.

      • +11 votes

        4 hours of infomercials

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        Buy a Mercedes.

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        It's an old OzBargain standard.

    • +3 votes

      PROFIT??? how, when you get the munchies….. thats hundreds down the drain at maccas or hungry jacks… lucky there are coupons on ozbargain…

  • +19 votes

    if you cant beat them join them

  • +2 votes

    Oh FREE!

  • +3 votes

    Maybe ask him to switch to edibles? Take a couple yourself? :D

  • +1 vote

    How does the odour fill your room? Is it coming through your windows or is his roof/your floor made of cheesecloth?

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      I think it's coming through the windows. They are shut, but very old, so you can still feel the wind coming through them.
      The lounge has wooden floorboards :)

      • +6 votes

        go to bunnings, get some self adhesive foam strips. Fixed.

  • +3 votes

    Consider getting an air purifier.

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      I've tried scented candles which help significantly, but I assume the second hand smoke is still hanging around

      • +3 votes

        Sounds like it's the smell that's the issue, I really doubt enough "second hand smoke" is coming through closed windows that could harm you.

        I hate that horrid smell also, but honestly thinking the "smell" is "second hand smoke" is not really true, I can't see any health problems occurring from the smell. Can you visibly see the smoke? If not I very much doubt there's any issue to be concerned about other than the smell - which still sucks :)

        • +4 votes

          Correct. People are dying from car and truck exhaust at higher rates.

        • +1 vote

          Yeh it's the smell which is bad, especially when they get on the pot.

          Ahh okay I see, that's good to know I don't have to worry about the health side of things. I'm sure there are plenty of other things that will kill me before second hand smoke.

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          It's called thirdhand smoke, which is not something anyone should be forced yup cop at home everyday.

        • -1 vote

          @hammmer: it is a health concern, which I'm sorry to say. It's called thirdhand smoking.

          http://www.no-smoke.org/learnmore.php?id=671

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          @berry580:
          Oh wow haha, I had no idea about third hand smoke
          Who would have thought I'd learn so much on OzBargain
          Thanks for all the info/suggestions guys

        • +2 votes

          @berry580: Do you really believe that? Sure there are compounds in residue left tobacco smoke that are harmful, but in that vein apple seeds are deadly also.

          But, I'm not convinced that what the OP described qualifies as what that article calls "third hand smoke", but anyway.

          Do you seriously believe the situation the OP described poses a real health issue? If so, you best not drink tap water or breath urban/suburban air - they're likely more harmful.

          I can find an article to support just about any claim about anything. But I think you need to filter these things through a common sense filter before accepting them as fact.

      • +4 votes

        air purifier will get rid of the smell and smoke.

      • +1 vote

        The scented candles may not be great for you either - us_epa_link

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      I've been looking for one of these to cover the smell of corpses .. smells, can you recommend any in particular?

  • +27 votes

    Lynx Africa - it's what all the smokers/stoners used to hide the smell when I was younger.

    • +20 votes

      Unfortunately the smell of Lynx would be worse than the smell of smoke!

      • +7 votes

        On the plus side, the scent will attract many women

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          As many as are attracted to wipe on pheromones?

    • +1 vote

      That would depend on the O.P.'s age - I'd get depressed at my age if I filled the house with the smell of virgins..

      • +1 vote

        Never smelt one, what's the smell like

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        I love the smell of virgins in the morning.

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          Try Coriander and cherry tomatos in the diet - or are you talking about collection?

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    Open to all suggestions

    Either close your window/balcony door so the smoke doesn't come in or if you can't do that, put a fan point outwards to blow smoke away.

    There is 1 year left in the lease and the building is not smoke free.

    So you only just signed it in?

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      The windows are shut but they are very old windows, and you can feel the air flowing through.

      Yeh just signed it start of July

      • +7 votes

        then head to bunnings and look at some weather strip to seal up the gaps, something like

        https://www.bunnings.com.au/raven-5m-brown-door-and-window-w...

        yeah yeah yeah, you're renting you shouldn't have to pay for it etc, blah blah. But for under $20 you can fix the issue today, or fight with the agent for months!

        Pretty easy choice to me.

        • +3 votes

          Interesting, I'll definitely have a look at that.

          Yeh I can afford $7.05 so that won't be an issue haha. The picture on the packaging exactly the same type of windows I have! Those annoying ones you have to wind open/close

        • +3 votes

          @hammmer: Well I assumed you had a couple of windows, so will need a couple of packets ;)

          But glad that you're in the mindset of spending a couple of dollars yourself. Some renters don't see the value is spending $20 today to have something fixed and move on, vs fighting with the agent for months on end!

          If you have THOSE windows (me too), the stuff is pretty easy to install. Just sticks to the inside frame. You'll be installed in no time at all! Added bonuses is less drafts, the place stays warmer too! So you'll save on the heating bill and make back that $20 spend in no time!

          It comes in a few colours, so pick one that blends in.

        • +1 vote

          @hammmer: I think Jimmy is right and I'd probably do the same in this situation.

          I also don't think having a chat to your agent to find out if they are a tenant also is a bad idea, should 1st part doing the seals doesn't cut it, there might be some more work to do and if they are tenants too they could get them both sorted out and seal his windows along with it. and any other holes that could be allowing it in.

          Do they smoke inside or outside on a balcony? courtyard

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          @Toons:

          Good point. I'll do that too

          They smoke outside their front door and on a balcony out the back. I'm not sure about them smoking inside because the window blinds are shut all the time

        • +2 votes

          @hammmer: before you go buying it from burnings. Get it on eBay from China. The foam stuff is way cheaper online.

        • +1 vote

          @theya: true, but time vs cost thing…..

          Wait 4 weeks for it to arrive or have it installed today?

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          @theya:

          This is the same thing but in white for $2.90. Every rental I've had I fix the windows and usually door frames with it and it goes a long way to fixing any drafts.

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    get those padding thing that you can install all around the windows. Make sure you fit it nice and close to the gaps.

    Definitely get an air purifier.

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    Something as simple as rolling up a towel and putting it on the window sill, tight against the gap, should do the job

  • +5 votes

    tell the police you can smell pot from downstairs and alot of cars come and go during the night, sit back and enjoy the show

    • +3 votes

      Yeah, police have better things to do like going after heron and meth dealers. Most of them think enforcing laws against cannabis use are a joke like everyone else.

      • +9 votes

        Interesting when you think that future generations will look back and see us as living in the pot prohibition era.

      • +1 vote

        "Strong chemical smell - like ammonia" - they like busting meth labs.

      • +23 votes

        Heron dealers? Call the wildlife police.

        • +5 votes

          Tried calling once, they wouldn't come if no fowl play was involved.

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          @DoubleUKayG:
          Yep, haven't got a leg to stand on.

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          Tried that but they called me a stool pidgeon.

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          lolbird

      • +1 vote

        Use yes, but dealing is a big deal to them, which is what the poster is saying should be suggested

    • -2 votes

      Unlikely they will give a rats - people are considered committing a crime if they possess over 50g, as far as I'm aware. Not many people are in possession of that amount of cannabis, surely?

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        That's only, what… $300 worth? Ahem- according to someone who isn't me from a long time ago… It's not unreasonable to think they'd have that around…

        • +3 votes

          More… probably around $500. $10 a gram for a bulk purchase is a good price… "Ozbargainer"

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          @TheBilly: damn weed is so expensive in Australia. Crazy prices. Any pot heads would go nuts if visiting Canada as it is so cheap and easily accessible.

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          50g isn't a typical amount of cannabis to be bought - infamously it's bought in ounces / half ounce; an ounce is about 30g. That's quite a lot.

          It really depends on the State/Territory. For example, in the NT up to 50g is purely a $200~ fine - no criminal offence committed (I have seen this first hand happen to someone else).

          OP is from WA I think, which apparently is one of the harsher States (would have thought it would be the Nanny State, QLD) - but under 10g you just have to attend a drug diversion program. Pain in the arse, of course, but still.

        • +1 vote

          @Third_Gear: that because Canadian have the leaf on their flag!

          https://i.ebayimg.com/18/!B6szzUgCGk~$(KGrHqMOKoYEz!t)i0ekBMyTO739mQ~~-1_35.JPG?set_id=880000500F

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          @Third_Gear: 28 grams per ounce - roughly $160 - $280 for an ounce depending which state you are in and who you know. Canadia is on par with that form when I visited.

    • -2 votes

      Narc

  • +4 votes

    Buy some Snickers Ice Creams and join in.

    • +1 vote

      Connoisseur Ice-creams > Snickers Ice-Creams every time…

      According to a friend of a friend, of course.

      • +1 vote

        Well that's a challenge I am willing to (get my friend of a friend to) accept! - Time to do some "Research"

        • +7 votes

          My friend of a friend recommends your friend of a friend goes for the sticks, not the tubs and my friend of a friend also recommends the Murray River Salted Caramel with Macadamia… They assure me that your friend's friend will not be disappointed.

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          @Adz81: My friend of a friend also backs up your claim of Murray River Salted Caramel with Macadamia.. is it possible that we have the same friend of a friend?!?!

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          @Ethernia:
          Holy shit! Maybe… Nothing like the interwebz to make you realise how damn small the world actually is!

  • +6 votes

    go join him for a few cones, his shout!

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    Tell the bikies that said neighbour is encroaching on their turf.

  • +3 votes

    Take a piss on the edge of your balcony and aim downwards

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      Need to wait for the right wind conditions

      • +1 vote

        Bottle?

  • +1 vote

    Buy liquid ass from Amazon and drop it around their front door.

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      So he smells liquid ass through bis windows instead? ;)

      • +4 votes

        I can't believe that you can't believe that you had negs on a post that you put on Ozbargain. Hahaha

  • +3 votes

    I used to smoke and after quitting I can't stand the smell. Once I was in a similar situation living in an apartment block overseas, people below would smoke all kinds of stuff inside and the smoke came in through the vents into my apartment. Having windows open, yeah dream on. So one day I had enough of it, banged on their door, told them what my problem was in a very non political way… And magically it all stopped. They went outside for their smokes from there on. Might not work here though sadly.

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      You were lucky. In my case, they verbally abused me saying I was pathetic and crazy for complaining about them smoking in their own balcony which was right next to my bedroom window.

      After that, not only I had to dream to have my window open, I also had to put my ears on the door before going out to avoid bumping into them.

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        Sorry to hear that. For me the smell is so disgusting I couldn't put up with it. Not to be a wimp but if they are being abusive maybe it's time to look at other options as restrictions on smoking don't exist here. You have my sympathies, good luck.

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          Yeah, I moved out the following year. Pretty sure they had anger management issue as they yelled at the cleaners I hired to clean my apartment too.

  • +5 votes

    In NSW, the laws are improving to give renters more rights to live smoke free in their own residence: https://www.lookupstrata.com.au/smoking-in-strata-buildings-...

    • +1 vote

      Thanks for the link, some good info in there! It's a shame they don't have an info tab for Western Australia. Forgot to mention I live in WA

    • +1 vote

      On this topic, if you know any of the owners who are active on the committee, you can ask then to propose a by law stating that smoking is not permitted on common property, and then hit them with this if it's passed. Fine can be anything as decided by the committee, probably up to $1k or so. Not sure if t his might just drive them inside, but either way you have a right to the quiet enjoyment of your property without being impacted by your neighbours' habits.

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    Just talk to them nicely, explain the smell bothers you.

    Also get the window strips.

    Don't go to the real estate. Don't go to the police.

    Save these for later if nothing changes.

    Maybe they can smoke ciggies outside, and blow pot smoke up through the stove's range hood.

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      Since when would such people be open to talking nicely?

      • +2 votes

        Pot smokers? They have the stereotype of being pretty laid back people.

        Seems like you have too much fear of others, or let preconceptions guide you.

        Most people, at least before you get to really know them, are not complete twats.

        Dig too deeply though… well that's another story. And now I'm revealing my own fears and preconceptions…

  • +2 votes

    Had a similar problem recently. The lady next door smokes like a chimney. I can't stand the smell either so you have my sympathy! My son has health issues so after trying to catch the neighbours day and night for about 1 week I resorted to writing a note after letting my agent know. I just put it under their door one afternoon. With the wind her smoke was drifting into my sons bedroom and I the first time it happened I had to wipe everything and strip his entire bed! Long story short I believe she has since moved her smoking chair around the other side of her unit. Sometimes it creeps into my living room and now I spray toilet spray on the veranda and hope the smell of that drifts next door.

    I haven't read all the comments but if you're with an agent report it immediately. Non-smokers also have rights! And one of them is not to die from someone else's lifestyle choice!

    Jokes aside you shouldn't have to make any adjustments to your windows or buy anything to block the smell out. At the end of the day the tenants? need to be respectful and find somewhere else to smoke, away from those who don't.