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Canon EOS 200D + 18-55mm STM: $719.96 + Delivery @ Ted's on eBay

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Hi All,

first post since another one was canned
Was looking for a smallish camera for the Mrs for her bird watching (be gentle with the comments please)

This camera has just been release and has quite a couple of good reviews.
added with the 55-250mm STM it will serve its purpose.

more information can be found here:
https://www.canon.com.au/cameras/eos-200d

And review (no dpreview as of yet) can be found here:
http://www.photographyblog.com/reviews/canon_eos_200d_review...

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  • +2 votes

    Over $700 for an entry-level DSLR from Canon? No way.

    • +1 vote

      Did i mention it comes in silver also?

    • +2 votes

      The 200D is not the absolute-entry-level dSLR for canon, if you're after a low-cost entry-level option, the 1300d is $440 including lens at Teds here: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/New-Canon-EOS-1300D-EF-S-18-55mm-...

      The 200D is specifically their 'tiny dSLR'. It's not a top-end camera but has some decent features, eg it has the same Imaging Sensor and Image Noise Levels as the more expensive 80D..

      The reason you'd be buying this one is the portability. It's a DSLR but it's tiny, and only 450grams. Size Comparison here : http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Camera-Back-Compa...

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    Was looking for a smallish camera for the Mrs for her bird watching

    Does your Mrs ever interact with the birds and share the footage? I'm an avid bird watcher.

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      Is that you dad?

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        Is that you dad?

        You can't say no to your Dad can you?

  • +1 vote

    55-250 STM is nice but be aware of focus breathing. If you want to zoom in on close by flora/fauna it's not the best lens. Ended up adding a Tamron 70-300VC, because a couple of years ago the only decent 70-300 Canon made lens was a $1400 L lens (stupid price to pay for slow consumer glass). I do love the 55-250 STM for other uses though. Makes a decent portrait lens for a beginner if the bokeh is to your liking.

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      Awesome tips. Thank you

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      55-250 ?? The OPs post is about the 18-55 kit lens. Its an ok kit lens. Not bad and perfectly fine for average use.I have never had focus breathing issues with the kit lens. Are you getting the lenses confused??

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        Did you read the OPs whole post? He said:

        "This camera has just been release and has quite a couple of good reviews.
        added with the 55-250mm STM it will serve its purpose."

        I don't think it's me that's gotten confused.

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          ops sorry …my bad !!

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          @Hoobi:

          No harm done mate. Have a good one.

  • +1 vote

    Not sure if this is a great deal. Seems overpriced for the features. There are better options.

    The nikon d3400 is about the same size and specs and can be had for nearly 40% less. Alternatively the sony a6000 is more compact albeit without the viewfinder for less as well.

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      I bought an SLR in 2011 and it was much the same, if memory serves I could buy a Nikon (D3100 had just been released) which had better specs than the equivalent Canon and sold for about $100 less.

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      Size is smaller and way lighter…big ups for the rest though

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      D3400 are great cameras, and Nikon lenses are cheap from Kogan via Hong Kong.

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    I used to buy Canon, but last camera was a Nikon ….. I'm finding Nikon seem to offer better value now a days.

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      All the lens manufacturers have decided to focus on higher end (translation: more expensive) gear over the last 12-24 months or so. A lot of the lenses being released now are priced ridiculously unfortunately. I wonder how long it will take them to work out that's a terrible strategy….or whether DSLR sales will just sink further and leave them selling other products or dying.

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        It is a challenge for DSLR manufacturers to cater for markets that benchmarks simply on megapixels against phones when consumer make choices "camera is 21 megapixel, phone is 21 megapixel who needs a canera", and most people aren't tech savy enough to understand it has to do with lens size and capturing as much light as possible and focusing light.

        It's a bit like mp3 taking over from CDs and flac as people compromise on quality, or never experienced the quality ….

        The entry level cameras and lenses are excellent value eg Nikon D3400 (24 megapixel), and so are the entry level lenses (glass optics, plastic housings), but it's a tough market when people benchmark purely on megapixels against phones when deciding to a buy a DSLR or a new phone with better camera.

        Be interesting to see if full frame enters the entry level market at some stage.

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          The problem I have is that the manufacturers appear to have decided to completely eliminate the enthusiast range. You only have to look at the prices of lenses being released lately. These are the customers who'd get hooked as enthusiasts and turn pro. Full frame is not that big a deal to me. Having capable lenses beyond the beginner lineup and a couple of primes that perform poorly wide open is more important. Very few people who have never bought a lens that cost more than $300 are going to step up and buy a $3000 pro lens. The manufacturers are destroying their own future.

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    Need a 1dx and a couple ox red rings, find any deals on that?

  • +1 vote

    I think that you are paying a decent premium for the 200D being one the most recently released Canon DSLRs.

    The 1300D twin lens kit is $100 cheaper than this 200D single lens kit, although it is a more basic body.

    Another option might be Ted's 70D + 18-55 STM repack stock kit - the 70D is a few years old, but it will have features and menus that the 200D doesn't for $100 ($80 after discount) doesn't because it is a xxD, and not a xxxD. It drops to 20Mp, but I have found mine quite adequate over the last few years, including birds in flight recently at an Australia Zoo lunchtime Crocoseum show (paired with a 100-400L ii quite helped).

    Another option is the 700D twin lens kit for $200 ($160 after discount) more, which is cheaper than you could buy the 55-250.

    Or, 750D twin lens kit for an extra $400 ($320 after discount), which has a very similar sensor to the 200D (if not the same).

    I think I would pick either 750D twin kit or 70D kit + 55-250 as a starter. Both similar money once you add the 55-250mm to the 200D kit. The price you pay for early adoption.

    Yes, these bodies are a little bigger and heavier, but not hugely so, and having a decent "handle" helps as the zooms get bigger (as they are prone to do with birding).

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      Great advice. The 700/750D kit are great cameras and are excellent value for money albeit perhaps a bit bulky.

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      Great advice indeed

  • +1 vote

    I recently switched from the canon 750D because it was too bulky. I moved over the micro four thirds system (Panasonic and Olympus). Sooo much smaller, image quality is great, nice lens selection, lens are heaps smaller then their counter parts and fairly cheap comparably. Lens are interchangeable between Panasonic and Olympus. Perhaps the Panasonic gx85 or the Olympus OMD e-m10 MK2 might be more to your liking.

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      Question is…what kind of lens would you recommend for the whole birdwatching thing?

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        For Something relatively cheap, you can pick up an Olympus 40-150mm F4-5.6 R ($100 second hand). Because it's micro four thirds the sensor size effectively doubles the focal length. So you get a 80-300mm, would definitely do the job for bird watching. Here's a small review, he takes a few photos of birds which seems quite handy for what you're after. https://robinwong.blogspot.com.au/2015/12/olympus-mzuiko-40-...

        Also of note both the camera's I mentioned above have in body image stabilisation, help you get better hand held shots which could come in handy for when you want to quickly snap a pic.

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          Awesome mate…
          She just added another spec for photographing macro of jewellery…would you recommend the g7 added to your list?

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          @zoner: yeah sure the G7 is a great camera too, you'd probably be able to get a good deal on it too. It also would take all the above mentioned lens.

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      I don't think so. Micro four third gives very bad picture quality. You can just enlarge them only a little bit and you will see. I have a wide collection of cameras including many flagships. The 4/3 is small and very good for handling. But the image quality just sucks.

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        Sure the M4/3 won't give you better image quality then a full frame Nikon or canon. But they also cost a fraction of the price and he's talking about a Canon EOS 200D. Clearl not talking about high camera, just a good camera that will do a good job cheaply

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    I miss how my Pentax takes AA batteries and all the new cameras are proprietary battery formats to bring size down ….

    Hmmm, now I have a pentax DSLR (my first DSLR), then bough Canon 700D DSLR as lenses were cheaper, then a Nikon DSLR D5500 for more megapixels as it had cheaper lenses and more features ….. might be fill circle and get a Canon 760D …. does it has a swivel touch screen like my D5500 ?