Rare Night Terrors and Nightmares

I dreams/nightmares I often don't remember them only about 3 or 4 over a space of 4 years and they only last a few seconds

all but the ones I do remember are violent and scary often involving death(brutal murders ) kidnapping of people I know sometimes they are so vivid and clean they re appear when I'm trying to sleep this then makes me nervous about sleeping when they have happened recently

Several times during the night I wake up frightened and/or in sweats. But have no idea
They come and go. I'll have many episodes a night for weeks on end and other times I won't have any for months.

I have a very healthy and fit lifestyle

Has anyone experienced this before and have anyway to help kinda prevent it if possible ?

Or any insight to why this happens ??

UPDATE - GP cleared me of any mental and sleeping issues

Comments

  • +45

    Nightmares

    Posting this at 3am

    Story checks out

    • +1

      Hahaha yeah had another one tonight and can't get back to sleep 👎

      • +24

        You can discuss a psychological matter with your GP. At worst, they'll give you a referral to a psychologist. 👍

        • +9

          I believe that under medicare you get a few consultations for free with a Psychologist

        • @BuyoTheCat:

          I have heard the same.

        • +18

          @BuyoTheCat: Not free, but it's heavily subsidized, I think around 50% off. Don't post it as a bargain though.

        • @BargainCowboy:

          about 10 yrs ago I remember my GP telling me he can refer me to see someone for free. My google search does not reveal that to be so anymore.

          Time has change.

        • +10

          @BuyoTheCat: "Free" depends on how much the psychologist charges, but you can get them part covered by Medicare as part of a Mental Health Care Plan for 10 sessions a year: https://www.mindhealthconnect.org.au/mental-health-care-plan

        • +2

          @BuyoTheCat:

          Get it with my private health insurance to

        • +2

          @BargainCowboy:

          Don't post it as a bargain though

          Hand in your ozb licence, cowboy!

        • @BRYCELICIOUS:

          I personally don't think I have any mental health issues and my doctor doesn't think so ether
          But thanks

        • @BargainCowboy:

          You can get bulk billed psychology visits by gp referral.

        • @BuyoTheCat: 10 sessions

        • Unless it's necessary, it may be a really bad idea. Insurance companies may consider that mental illness and exclude you from cover or jack up premiums so they are affordable. Not just private health care but also travel insurance. But if you have a genuine problem sometimes that means you have no choice.

        • @BuyoTheCat:

          You get 10, though you need a referral.

        • +1

          @syousef:

          Exactly why I want it avoid it unless completely necessary

        • @ronorboris:

          doctor gave me all clear so won't be getting one of those

      • I would highly suggest that you try paranormal help. It is fairly easy to treat this kind of thing. Unless you've had some kind of traumatic experience in your past that would make sense to you to affect you psychologically, give this a try. I'm not a psychologist at the slightest, but I am someone who has gotten this kind of help and fixed it.

        My girlfriend was also suffering from non stop nightmares and health issues for over 2 years and she wouldn't believe me to get paranormal help. I finally forced her to do it and the nightmares are gone. Her health still suffers from previous issues but no new issues are coming up.

        When I got help for myself, I went to bed and the next day there were drops of blood on the floor. I definitely wasn't bleeding.

    • How are you feeling today? Tell us about your childhood.

      • Why would I tell you about my childhood ?

        I am fine thankyou

        • +1

          Issues stem from childhood, Freud says.

        • @anastasiastarz:

          Well I had a lovely childhood so no issues stemmed from there

  • +1

    are violent/intrusive thoughts something you consciously think about when you're awake or is it only something that comes up in your dreams? Do you think you might be suffering from depression or anxiety that could be triggering it? Maybe try listening to some relaxing music when you go to sleep.

    • +1

      It only comes up in my dreams . I am a really quiet and calm person and have no stresses in life
      Have experienced a recent(2 months ago) death in my family but that was a peaceful passing and wouldn't be causing this as it has been happen on and off for years.
      The first one I remember happened about 4 years ago now.

      • +1

        when you read stories of kidnappings, does it bother/trouble you a lot and you think about it? or do you move on without much of a second thought?

        • I do not read well not like books about them etc and move on without a second thought anything in the news to do with that sort of thing is in one ear and out the other

        • +1

          @x1x1x1: Does it take a while for you to sleep or do you sleep pretty quickly? maybe some exercise an hour or 2 before you go to bed might do something. you should definitely see a GP about it who can prescribe you further help if it's really disrupting your sleeping.

        • @BlazinPast:

          Nah pretty quickly usually as my day is pretty busy usually up at 6am/7am do a PT session and a walk before work then work from about 9-4 and then another PT session after work and by time I get home it's about 6 then dinner, shower relax and bed about 10/11 depending on how much I have to do at home

          I'll usually get a solid sleep but the last week or so has been up and down. I can usually go back to sleep after them but tonight I'm wide awake 👎

        • +1

          @x1x1x1: I know very little about nightmares to begin with (probably had one or two in 10 years), but I'm stumped. Have no idea why you keep getting them. Hopefully it works out for you. I'm staying wide awake tonight too, gotta pull an all-nighter to study.

        • +1

          @x1x1x1: You work 9-4? What kind of job is this?

        • +13

          @Burnertoasty:

          Crime scene investigator.

        • +2

          @x1x1x1:

          I'll usually get a solid sleep but the last week or so has been up and down. I can usually go back to sleep after them but tonight I'm wide awake 👎

          Do you find yourself thinking about things in bed after you awake?

          Dwelling on upsetting thoughts or concerns can keep you awake. So if you find yourself doing this, it can help to get up and eat something slow digesting and do an activity which calms your mind. Some ideas:

          • Snuggle your partner or pet.
          • Inhale slowly, deeply and fully before exhaling the same way.
          • Have a cup of caffeine free herbal tea/tisane.
          • Listen to some soft down tempo calming music.
          • Read something mildly entertaining or even mundane.
          • Do some easy chores to feel accomplished.

          Stay away from:

          • All screens.
          • The news.
          • Anything mentally stimulating (except sensual and/or sexual stimulation which are beneficial).
        • @x1x1x1:

          Do you have concerns about the people you know?

          What kinds of TV, media and music do you watch and listen to?

          Where did you grow up and how was your childhood?

          Do you, by any chance, live on Elm St.?

        • @Burnertoasty: hospitality

        • @Burnertoasty:

          Just a hospitality job

        • @Scrooge McDuck:

          Nope usually I fall straight to slee as I'm so tired
          I try not to eat after a certain time

          But thankyou :)

        • @Scrooge McDuck: crime lord!

        • @OzzyOzbourne:

          Would be more exciting

        • I have similar dreams, without the murder, though I like a good dose of murder (crime shows) before bed.

    • +1

      Buy FarCry4 or 3 for that matter, put it on Hard, play it. You will die many times in the game and re spawn.
      Then when you are having a nightmare, you go into a semi-wake-dream stage, where you can "digest" the nightmare without waking up. It takes practice.
      I can have dreams of being shot, without waking up, and the recurring fall out of the window I now "redirect" [ with effort ] in a pleasant flight over forest.

  • +3

    Are you currently using Nicotine patches? I had the worst nightmares on them.

    • +1

      Nope never smoked so defiantly not using them.
      I am no medications at all and nothing in my life has changed either that's the weirdest thing :/

      • Certain foods before bed, chocolate and bananas that i know of, can also cause nightmares, maybe look up sleep disturbing foods. I also know for randoms, that lettuce has sleepytime components, and is good to eat before bed. A turkey lettuce sammich before bed ought to have you snoring not screaming.

        • I did have a quick Google of a few things but I am on a pretty strict diet so don't eat dairy, breads pretty much any carbs, junk food , anything processed etc and won't eat past about 7.30pm
          But there is so many possibilities of things that cause it. I have a food diary that I present to my PT every week and nothing on there seems like it should effect it

        • +9

          @x1x1x1: Problem solved, your brain is rebelling your strict regime and terrorizing you with threats against your loved ones until you submit to its evil intentions. >.<

        • @stormii:

          Hahaha I wish it was simple as that . I've been on a stricter diet for about 4 to 5 months so it's normal to me now and only had these for a week

          Loved ones aren't even people in my dream it's just people I know like customers from my work or people I went to school with like 7 years ago haha my family haven't been on 1 yet thankfully

        • -1

          @x1x1x1: Well just keep talking it out sweetie, we don't want you going postal now. This is the part where i say, have you tried a jazz ciggarette to chillax and get a good nights sleep, or maybe some valerian root tablets from the chemist, and everyone lights thier torches and grabs thier pitchforks.

        • @x1x1x1:

          it's just people I know like customers from my work or people I went to school with like 7 years ago

          People who annoy you?

        • +3

          @stormii:

          Problem solved, your brain is rebelling your strict regime and terrorizing you with threats against your loved ones until you submit to its evil intentions. >.<

          That's not entirely far fetched.

          Restricting certain nutrients can affect a person's mood and place them under stress.

        • +1

          A turkey lettuce sammich before bed ought to have you snoring not screaming.

          What can I feed my friend to have her screaming not snoring?

        • +1

          @Scrooge McDuck: Cayenne Pepper. Capsaicin heats up the pants a bit. Asparagus is a diuretic and has a bit of a tingle in the pants effect too.

        • @Scrooge McDuck: nope just people I know

        • +1

          @Scrooge McDuck:

          Mmm not that I remember

        • @Scrooge McDuck: Cock, I mean, chicken.

        • @cameldownunder:

          Spatchcock?

      • +2

        Nope never smoked so defiantly not using them.

        Good for you, peer pressure can be a powerful influence.

        • +1

          Once you eat some KFC, you will have a blissful sleep

        • @BuyoTheCat: so many ways to skin a cat! It is the same with eating chicken. Get the tasty ones, perhaps spiced with turmeric from the Indians, they live healthier. Get off white bread, not worth eating and the chlorine in the flour is known for such bad health effects.

      • To broaden out this comment, it's stimulants before bed. Think of the body and mind being in different levels of sleep, your body might be asleep but nicotine and other light stimulants will keep your mind more alert and more likely to dream.

        There is a lot of good evidence that practicing what's called 'Lucid Dreaming' really helps. That's where your body is asleep but you mind is conscious and you can actively control your dreams as if it was waking life. It's too much for a post but a search for the term will give you move information if it interests you.

        • There has been heaps of comments about that on this post and I did look into it but after reading
          I don't think my dreams last long enough the bits I remember are only a few seconds

        • @x1x1x1: I would suggest the dream does last longer, although it's just the hyper realistic and frightening parts trigger your 'fight or flight' response, and usually waking you up from the adrenaline.

          At the core of lucid dreaming is the ability to recognize you're dreaming. This may allow you to take better control of the thoughts and change the destination of the dream. It takes a bit of practice but someone who has control of their dream is able to move between dreamscapes and manifest objects or people at will. If nothing else, being more aware you are dreaming while in a dream may help to stop it from waking you up which i can imagine is very disruptive to a nights sleep.

          Night terrors are different from normal dreams, i'm sure there's communities of people who are willing to share tips on how they minimise the impact on their lives.

        • @peterpaoliello:

          Yeh I legit only remember 3 or 4 overs. Period of four years so it doesn't impact my life to much to try getting to much into it and worrying over it etc

          Waking up isn't to bad I usually go straight back to sleep and there has been a couple of times I don't actually remember it but I act like I'm awake and they don't effect me at all

    • I can vouch for this!

  • Possibly your Unconscious Mind adjusting to a period of success.
    In that situation,dreams tend to be "reversed",if you get my drift …… ex smokers dream of smoking,ex drinkers dream of drinking,etc.

    • +3

      Well I am not a ex murder or kidnapper hahah

      • +1

        Was expecting that reply.
        Your dreams are typical of one who has carried a "don't make it script".
        Refer any of Eric Berne's books.

        • +1

          Umm okay
          Thanks

      • Well I am not a ex murder or kidnapper hahah

        Are you the perpetrator in these dreams?

        • No
          I'm usually and on looker but with the ones I remember . I can see everything that's going on but the people in nightmare can never see me even if I'm standing next to them

        • @x1x1x1:

          I'm usually and on looker

          I would consider not seeing murders or kidnapping in real life as a "period of success", so seeing them in your dream would be the opposite. The logic checks out. Case closed.

  • +6

    Maybe try some meditation

  • +1

    are you active at the moment? I find going to the gym and starting a solid weight-focussed regime during the day puts me to sleep like a rock at night. Nothing like cardio and weights to restart your body and mind

    • +2

      Yes Iam
      I do PT sessions 5 days a week
      Once on Monday, Thursday and Friday and twice on tuesdays and wednesdays :)

      • +2

        The more you reply, the more you're having us stumped
        This is just odd

        • Haha don't worry it has me stumped to

          Went to the GP they are like if it continues for to much longer been a constant issue they will refer me to a specialist but I didn't have one last night
          All though I was so tired from not sleeping the other night as well

      • You could be exercising too much maybe. I remember hearing an ideal amount of exercise was about 3 days a week for about 40 mins

  • +8

    GPs deal with lots of psychological stuff, that'd be my first port of call if internet strangers can't sort it out for you

    • +1

      I have a doctors appointment in a week as I work 7 days a week so couldn't change my schedule for any sooner. Was merely asking to see if anyone had similar experiences to see if they could help until I go to the GP

      • +11

        have no stresses in life

        I work 7 days a week

        @_@

        • When it's a job you enjoy it isn't stressful :)

        • @x1x1x1: I envy you, and am trying to emulate you right now. I have offically moved out of my bedroom to turn it into a design studio and hope to cheerfully work 7 days a week, while I sleep behind the sofa like an international uni student.

        • Wait, what, you work 7 days a week. Thats bad. Could be tired and just don't realise it. You need the weekend to relax/unwind. Also all your exercising would be putting a strain on your body too. Maybe cut back your exercising to 3 days a week and try to at least get one day off work a week.

        • +1

          @Lucky13:

          It's not full days at work during the week it's about 7 hours a day and weekend can be 4 to 5 and I don't have to work that many hours I choose to.

          Excercise is done under the supervision of my PT, doctor , dietian and physical therapist and they all say it's fine :) I only do about 30 to 40 mins each session

  • +1

    I had a really vivid dream recently and was googling the subject for weeks afterwards. Aside from what others have mentioned, the only thing that I have found unfortunately is that it could be an early signs of brain disorders like dementia. This might seem unlikely if you are still young, when you go to see your GP, maybe you want to check that out too. The only other thing I can think of is maybe talk to someone you know at the spiritual level. I am not talking about blaming supernatural beings for your dreams, but more reflecting and talking through why you might be having these dreams, maybe excessive fears of losing the people you love, childhood trauma, etc.

    Finally, when I was younger, when I wasn't sleeping well in my room, I found that rearranging the furniture in my room helped. ie. change the location of my bed in my room. This is illogical and doesn't make sense, but it worked for me.

    • Thanks for that some helpfull tips and yeah I'm only 22 so I don't think it would be dementia and no family history of it at all had a check up with my Doctor and they gave me some things to try .

      I had a pretty easy childhood and only child and no trauma or family violence etc but it's defs something worth looking into
      I did experience a loss a month or so ago but that was in no way violent or un expected.

      • On the topic of '..change the location of my bed in my room…' from @geek001, in India elders advice not to keep your head in the north in the bed, the reason being something to do with Earth's magnetic field. Try this, It may help.

        • My bed can only fit in one place in my room unfortunately but not think my head sleeps to the north anyway

  • Eat cheese before going to bed, i always have great dreams when i have a little before sleep. Stronger the better, blue is great. Also avoid alcohol and caffeine before sleep and using phone in bed also can cause sleeping troubles.

    • Don't eat dairy and hardly ever drink alcohol and don't have cafeine but thanks :)

      • +11

        No wonder you are having nightmares.

        • +2

          Haha I'm sure this isn't the cause

        • @x1x1x1: Maybe its your subconscious trying to deal with trauma from your past. You should see a psychologist/psychiatrist and discuss the dreams you have been having, there is probably a deeper root cause that you need a 3rd party perspective to help you come to terms with whatever the underlying issue may be.

  • +18

    Are you a guy or lady ?

    If you're a guy, try not to fap or have sex for a week or 2.

    Then cover your bottom with thick warm blanket while you're sleeping.

    See if your nightmare turns into a beautiful wet dreams.

    • +5

      wat

    • +2

      So very inappropriate.

  • +3

    Fap ….Fap lots!

  • +2

    Yeah release some tension by fapping.

  • +4

    Hi OP
    Night terrors and nightmares are completely different things. Nightmares are nasty dreams that occur later in the sleep cycle. A nightmare can often be remembered in the morning, and there are few outside indicators that you're having a bad dream during the night.

    In contrast, night terrors are semi-waking dreams that occur early in the sleep cycle. A night terror typically occurs as your body is transitioning from a wake state to a subconscious sleep state, which is why they usually happen earlier in the night. To observers, you may even appear awake and talkative during a night terror. However, it's unlikely that you would remember a night terror when you awake in the morning.

    Night terrors can prevent you from sleeping restfully, while nightmares occur because you are sleeping restfully. Therefore, you need to work out which one it is.

    To me it sounds like you are probably going to bed too late and not giving your body and brain sufficient downtime. Working 7 days a week can do it, as can looking at screens to 'help yourself go to sleep'.

    • Doctor reckons I have both from what I've told him from what I've experienced and what others have told me .

      I try relax as much as I possibly can when I get home and usually have dinner, and shower or bath depending on how intense my training was.

      I only look at my phone before bed when I put it on charge and even then I purposely have it away from my bed so I am not tempted

  • You're not on Champix are you?
    Mate went on those to stop smoking and he had the worst nightmares/night terrors

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