How to Put My Point in Front of Managers for Fair Distribution of Overtime

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  altomic on 18/09/2017 - 17:14

  +8

  You are casual. Wouldn't your casual overtime rate cost the company more than it would than for the permanent employees?

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    PVA on 18/09/2017 - 17:17

    +1

    Yep.

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  [Deactivated] on 18/09/2017 - 17:24

  Call da unions now. The boiz will help ya.

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  Ughhh on 18/09/2017 - 17:25

  +3

  I know at my work, Permanent employees have priority over casuals with overtime.

  Sounds like you should arguing about being transferred to permanent from casual.

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    Priya123 on 18/09/2017 - 17:28

    Yes… Both…. I will argue (1) why I have not being offered permenant position.. (2) Why I have not being offered overtime while others have been offered regular overtime. But I need some arguments to support my point.

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      Ughhh on 18/09/2017 - 17:32

      +2

      What does your works EBA say? It doesn't matter what other companies EBA say

      (2) Why I have not being offered overtime while others have been offered regular overtime.

      If it was my work, you would be told because you are not permanent and EBA states permanents must be offered OT before casuals. Again, check your EBA and/or union rep.

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      CheapSticks on 18/09/2017 - 17:51

      +5

      Be careful how you put your point together - Manager will much prefer an employee saying "I love working here and passionate about what I do here. I would like to be make this a career for me and would like to seek your advice in terms of the things I can do to become permanent here".

      Overtime conversation has to follow after being permanent !

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        original15 on 18/09/2017 - 23:12

        +1

        Agree with cheapsticks
        Don't go with a "my argument" mindset

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        Qkumber on 19/09/2017 - 09:07

        this approach is much more likely to achieve what you want

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  SnoozeAndLose on 18/09/2017 - 17:32

  Company normally dont pay for overtime to permanent stuff,at most time in lieu, some just expect premanent to be working overrime without paying.

  So how can you argue that to get pay to work overtime vs not need to pay for premanent stuff for overtime.

  TBH you just lucky you could get pay for overtime.

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  PJC on 18/09/2017 - 17:39

  +2

  You joined a bargains website to ask this?

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  tsunamisurfer on 18/09/2017 - 17:57

  +3

  " I have been working full time hours for last four years as a casual employee"

  Aren't you way ahead already? 40 hours a week for 4 years @ Casual rates puts you ahead of your permanent colleages over the same period even with overtime.

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    whooah1979 on 18/09/2017 - 18:55

    Aren't you way ahead already? 40 hours a week for 4 years @ Casual rates puts you ahead of your permanent colleages over the same period even with overtime.

    op as a casual employee should still be getting ot under an award.

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  whooah1979 on 18/09/2017 - 18:53

  +1

  I have been working full time hours for last four years as a casual employee

  do you still have your payslips? how many hours do they state you did and how many hours have you documented that you did?

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  Some Human on 18/09/2017 - 20:19

  +2

  Why would anyone want do overtime? I don't even like doing 38hours a week.

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    spackbace on 18/09/2017 - 20:27

    Try doing 60 :P

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      Some Human on 19/09/2017 - 00:37

      +1

      I'd have to be offered the standard ozbargain wage of 200k a year before I'd even consider it.

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        spackbace on 19/09/2017 - 01:25

        +1

        Westpac eh? ;)

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    [Deactivated] on 19/09/2017 - 01:48

    Agree. I struggle to do my 20 hours some every weeks.

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  spackbace on 18/09/2017 - 20:27

  +1

  Depends, are you a quality employee?

  Last thing you want is to approach your boss over this and they just say it's because you're not good enough or proactive enough etc etc.