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    I reckon have to pay import tax?

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    Thank you. Wanted to buy one but not sure when they are going to add the "battery protection feature" to iphone8 so I will hold.

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      They don't have to. The issue only affected iPhone 6/6s and SE due to the age of the phone and the decisions they made at a software level to improve the user experience of a degrading battery.

      Batteries age, and over time the hardware has gotten better at how that's handled from a charging and discharging perspective, but they eventually wear down.

      If you want to keep your battery ticking over for as long as possible, here's some tips:

      • Don't charge it past 90%
      • Charge it from different starting points (not just 0-20%) to prevent some forms of battery conditioning and wear
      • Conversely, initially let it drain a few times so that the software tied to power management gets a fuller understanding of your usage patterns (and how to optimise for them)
      • Don't leave it exposed to heat/sun or leave it on charge

      These are just standard limitations of current battery circuitry and Lithium-Ion batteries, the issue was simply that customers were unaware of this, the current design of phones doesn't allow for simple replacement, and Apple made a decision that had significant performance factors without informing their customers.

      Once again: none of the software added makes the battery performance degrade faster, it is simply makes a decision on how to handle the situation when it does degrade.

      All of that said: this is a poor price for an iPhone 8, and frankly it's not a very good phone in the current market.

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        Thanks for the battery info. As you seem to be pretty knowledgeable, what would you say is a good phone in the current market?

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          To buy outright, right now? There's generally good value in the S8 and S8+ grey market, even from Amaysim with the S8+ using the eBay code 'PRAWNS' which makes it about $770 with a 2-year warranty. For a 12-month warranty, $730 and under for the S8+ is a good price, and the Optus $59 deal is excellent for the S8 if you planned on having a high-data plan to pair with it.

          Other phones to look for would be the Huawei Mate 10 Pro for under $800, and if you're OK with not having warranty service in Australia, the OnePlus 5T is an excellent phone, particularly the 8GB model.

          Personally I would wait for the slew of models due this year, as their CPU/GPU performance will be much more comparable to the iPhone 8/X, just with bigger batteries and better battery life.

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          @jasswolf:
          Cheers Thanks, no rush for an upgrade so will keep an eye out as the year moves on

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        How do you know it won't affect iPhone 8? It's already been applied to the 7.

        Also those battery tips are bogus. See here for real tips: https://www.apple.com/au/batteries/maximizing-performance/

        And lastly, why do you think iPhone 8 is not a good phone in this market? Which phones are better at that price?

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          They won't be affected because they're removing the feature from their software???

          Mine are reasonable tips based on the Australian environment and realistic use cases. Technically the 'optimal' amount to stop charging at is about 87%, but it's splitting hairs at that point for most people's usage.

          Apple's tips are overkill.

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          @jasswolf: They're not removing that feature from their software. They're introducing an option to turn the feature off. I still don't get why you think this doesn't apply to iPhone 8.

          Your tips are not reasonable because they're bogus and don't make any difference. Apple's tips work, and whether they're overkill or not is a matter of opinion.

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          @fredblogs: ok so I've double checked my journal sources and you're right: the number is 80-87%, but that you describe 90% as bogus reflects that you don't seem to understand the nature of battery charging and the thermal wear of the process and the average expected life span for the user.

          As for specifying exact temperatures and battery storage tips, that is definitely overkill for someone asking how to use their phone in Australia, given how often the phone would be exposed to sub zero temperatures outside of a scenario where someone leaves it in the freezer.

          Feel free to argue about it though, just leave me out of it.

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          @jasswolf: "journal sources"? No, if you have a source, give a URL. Otherwise you're just another random on the internet. I'd suggest anyone wanting real tips to read real sources, ie https://www.apple.com/au/batteries/maximizing-performance/ . Charging past 90% has no impact on battery life.

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          @fredblogs:

          https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S037877530...

          https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S037877530...

          Here are the resultant figures extrapolated from those experiments:

          Full charging: 300-800 cycles (aka 1-3 years above average use)
          90% - 88% improvement (2-5 years)
          87% - 122% improvment (2-7 years)
          80% - 211% improvement (3-9 years)

          all the way down to

          50% - 500% improvement (~6-18 years)

          How long were you planning to use your phone for? Now stop posturing and waving around a support article like it's the end point of any discussion.

          If you'd like to learn more about how lithium-ion batteries charge, or basic physics and chemistry in general, please go about your business and leave me be.

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      Could you elaborate on this "Battery Protection Feature"?

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        At best, it's going to be a piece of software that indicates how many cycles of charge are left before your battery capacity is diminished, and how to slow that process down a bit, using similar tips to what I provided above.

        There will be no magic program that protects your battery, simply something that stops your phone from charging to full.

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    wouldnt be paying those prices for grey stock, just get officeworks to price beat by 5% ausluck when the items are back in stock, slightly higher but worth it for 2 years local warranty

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      Prices at Ausluck:
      iPhone 8 64GB $1049, 256GB $1189| iPhone 8 Plus 64GB $1189, 256GB $1329

      5% price beat at Officeworks:
      iPhone 8 64GB $996.55, 256GB $1129.55| iPhone 8 Plus 64GB $1129.55, 256GB $1262.55

      So about 10% more expensive, which is spot on compared to a grey import.

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        only 10% differance for the i8 64gb, rest are around 5%, its a small differance for peace of mind, aussie warranty & charger

        iPhone 8 64GB $996.55 - $105 more
        256GB $1129.55 - $38 more
        iPhone 8 Plus 64GB $1129.55 - $86 more
        256GB $1262.55 - $83 more

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      Can you still price beat if it's all out of stock?

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    It looks like a reasonable strategy is to price beat via officeworks and then take your phone on an international trip to claim TRS if you can do that within 60 days of your purchase.

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