For those with a few extra pounds on and looking to get on the Keto bandwagon… this is a staple for the keto diet and I've never seen it cheaper than this. Hope that it helps someone out as it can be tricky to find here.
Now Foods MCT Oil 473ml $12.83 (RRP $17.85) Free Shipping with Orders over $40 US @ iHerb
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It's already popular…
Fads get popular fast.
Anything that helps people control hunger/satiety and consume more vegetables shouldn't be labelled a fad in my opinion.
Any advertised diet that involves taking oils/substituting meals/fasting/removing food groups/requiring vitamins etc is a fad.
Basic diets have existed for longer than vitamins and random oils being part of fad diets.
The information has always been out there including food groups (food pyramid), and portion sizes. Some people need fad diets that promise amazing things, to kick start them, which is fine, but that doesn't make them any less a fad diet. People don't need MCT oil or coconut oils etc, so it is therefore a fad diet unless you HAVE to take these oils as part of recommendation of doctor due to health issues/deficiencies.
Firstly the ketogenic diet doesn't really require you to consume MCT oils or any other supplement, All it requires you to do is lower your carb intake to 25g or so a day. Most people can do this without any supplementation, with no demonstrable long term detriment and several beneficial effects. Supplementing with MCT or coconut oil can be a handy (if expensive) shortcut in certain situations, as can lowcarb electrolyte drinks, but none of these are really necessary.
Secondly I think you're right in the sense that living in a constant state of ketosis is, in my view, not a viable long term way of living for most people (unless you have accute epilepsy, or certain neurocognitive disorders which have been shown to benefit from a state of ketosis).
It does however demonstrably cause most people to lose fat (in particular abdominal fat), lower blood sugar and triglycerides and generally lower all the symptoms of "metabolic syndrome", increase mitochondrial density and may have neurocognitive benefits. That, along with the fact that most people have a tendency to overindulge in carbs, is sufficient for me to justify doing it periodically for a couple of months by way of prophylaxis.
In my view, it's also a decent first step to a long term transition to a healthy, balanced, non-ketogenic diet (which, mounting evidence seems to suggest, involves the consumption of far fewer carbs than we have become accustomed to consuming over the past 50 years or so).Intermittent fasting, on the other hand (particularly simple protocols that involve reducing your feeding window by, say, skipping breakfast) is quite sustainable in my experience, and has proven health benefits.
The information has always been out there including food groups (food pyramid), and portion sizes.
Information produced by public health bodies over the last half century should be treated with healthy skepticism. Review the research underlying things like the food pyramid and you'll find much of it was based on shaky epidemiological studies and cherry picked data. In light of current research, it seems to me the pyramid had it right in terms of limiting processed sugar and lots of leafy greens, but almost everything else about it was upside down. I'm not convinced that a grain-based diet (which is what the food pyramid recommends) is a healthy diet. Other things we tend to take for granted like the link between saturated fat intake and heart disease, aren't in my view well borne out by the data. Similarly no one has demonstrated a causal link between consumption of dietary cholesterol and a rise in blood lipids. Or salt intake and risk of hypertension (beyond a proposed mechanism of action). That's not to say we should listen to Dr Oz or some other bloke claiming to be an expert in diets, or ignore our GP's advice - just remember that your GP isn't a scientist, they're repeating what they learned at uni in the 1970's, which was taught to hem by someone who went to uni in the 40s/50s. My preference is to look directly at the research being published in peer reviewed journals and add that information into my decision matrix.
@OnlinePred: Just to share my personal experience on Keto;
- Lost 15Kg down from 92Kg in 3 months
- Currently I eat only one meal a day as I am not hungry anymore
- Energy levels are through the roof. Can run a marathon now when I would hardly be able to run 100m without loss of breath
- Sleep Apnea/Snoring completely gone
- People have commented my skin looks much fresher and I look youngerDon't care what the science says but apparently it worked for me and a lot of other people. When I started, I used MCT oil to get faster in Ketosis but do not need it any further.
@bunnikins: I started eating healthier with smaller portions. Lost 20kg in 12 months. Have maintained it over 5 years. I eat normal food up to 5 meals per day. I sleep great. Skin is great. I play tennis and 10k runs regularly. All I did is reduce portion size and eat good food.
@OnlinePred: lol, run 10Ks regularly. no thanks I will pass that. I have a car to do that, which I can replace every few years. My body on the other hand I only get once and don't want to become diabetic running 10kms on high carbs.
@OnlinePred: I only eat Keto mate. Keto is 70% fat, 25% protein and only 5% carbs. My comment about diabetes was based on all the runners who do carb-loading and eventually become pre/diabetic. Check out this interview from Professor Tim Noakes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDL-ZMKWIBI
@OnlinePred: I appreciate the skepticism, and tend to think that MCT oil's are a bit of a cash grab. The keto diet seems promising, my hypoglycemia went away, unfortunately, my wife could not give up carbs and I was losing weight, which was not my goal at the time.
@OnlinePred: I don't understand what bunnikins is on about either…she/he just said she has enough energy to run a marathon and then immediately said she/he won't run??
I run 20ks+ on low carb…am I supposed to be driving to prevent me getting diabetes?
Also I have a very hard time believing anyone carb-loading for sports would become pre-diabetic.
Pre-diabetics are usually a case of fatty liver/leptin insensitivity which is not from complex carbs (bread/pasta/potatoes) but almost universally from simple carbs (sucrose, syrups, sweets, soft drinks).
But this whole bargain is a joke, any well read dieter would just buy Coconut oil which is >85% MCTs anyway and <50% the price.
Hell you can buy refined Liquid coconut oil from Coles for about $7 per half litre.
@Telios: there is no difference in the carb content as even the complex carbs are broken down to simpler molecules in the digestive process. The general assumption is that only simple sugar causes fatty liver but complex carbs (like bread/rice/cereals) remain complex in our body. This is the food pyramid scheme sold to millions which has caused this onset of obesity. On top of this the message had been exercise and everyone is told we are not exercising enough. Check this video out which will explain your doubts abouts complex vs simple carbs https://youtu.be/wxzc_2c6GMg
The reason i don't run everyday is because running causes a wear and tear of joints so i can keep healthy through diet and not potentially cause any danae to my bones. Though stamina is a different story!
Mate, this is Australia, not England.
For those with a few extra dollars
or rather
For those with a few extra kilograms
Interesting then that Australia is more overweight & obese than the Motherland ;)
Sorry dude, my bad. Kilograms!! (I see what you did there though hehe)
$24.95 with shipping.
You're right, thanks. I have never had to deal with shipping as always easily get over $40US :)
MCT Oil 473 ml $12.83
For those with a few extra pounds on and looking to get on the Keto bandwagon…Prefer this
looks the same to me and surely cheaper
Lol. So much tastier but not with the same effect most unfortunately hehe
Been on keto for almost two months, and ginger beer is one of the things I miss most
It's not strict keto but I find Woolies diet dry ginger hits the spot… one of the things I miss too :)
I barely go to my Woolies but I'll check it out
@jv:
Yes, but it's not sugar free (to be honest, not sure you could make a decent sugar free ginger beer, given the best ginger beer is brewed). While I know it's possible to do keto with a little bit of sugar now and then, I've been avoiding sugar completely.
so does it work for you? any success?
The ginger beer or the MCT? lol Yes down nearly 20kg.
Is coconut oil the poor mans MCT oil?
Yup! Less saturated fat, more of the medium chain triglycerides that you want for energy
not really. iirc it contains some medium chain triglycerides but also contains a large amount of saturated fat as well
Yes, so less active ingredient I guess you could say, but cheaper? People can decide.
Not sure you have a solid grasp of saturated fats.
So I'll just leave this for you to read at your leisure. MCTs are typically C6/8/10/12.
Most MCT oils are refined coconut oils, around about 65% of coconut oil is MCTs.
They'll just remove additional LCTs which make up about 30% of the oil and flavour (esters usually).
There aren't that many natural products (although strangely horse milk does…) that have MCTs - lauric acid (C12); capric acid (C10); caprylic acid (C8) and caproic acid (C6).
Not really necessary for keto, but handy as a snack if you're feeling low on energy. Melrose brand available in Australia for s similar price at great earth health shops: https://www.greatearth.com/melrose-mct-oil-500ml.html
If you want a more fast acting formulation get this one which has more C8 and a bit of C6 for higher ketone production : https://www.greatearth.com/melrose-mct-oil-pro-rapid-500ml.h…
Awesome. I've never seen it under the $18 mark though? Will check out as I'm due another bottle. Such a bummer you have to spend $99 to get free shipping from great earth though (I did come across it in my research)
Yeah its a pretty good shop. I work in the CBD so I'm lucky to have 3 great earth shops within walking distance. I'm not sure if this is still the case, but the shop on Elizabeth street used to have super sundays, where you could get 10% off any spend over $40 every first sunday of the month or something.
By the by, another useful product for people considering keto is this: https://www.greatearth.com/endura-sports-nutrition-rehydrati…
Its the only low carb electrolyte product I've been able to find in stores in Melbourne, and it saved me from the worst of keto flu when I started. Comes in two other flavours too.
I'll definitely be checking that out. I love Ultima (https://au.iherb.com/pr/Ultima-Health-Products-Ultima-Replen…) but yeah would be good to buy local. I worked close to the Lonsdale St shop (before kids, aka the reason i need keto lol)
@madamethrifty: ah nice! hadn't come accross that one before, might have to try it out next time I order from iherb!
Been using a ketogenic diet from time to time a lot longer than what I remember seeing MCT oil around :) Still, can be a useful tool none the less.
Didn't expect Keto items to popup on Ozbargain. Seems like its getting popular