I live in an apartment my neighbour underneath us smoke every morning and afternoon.
The smoke really annoys us and have concerns on this. Any advice on this? I have contacted strata and strata has sent letter about this but no action can be taken according to strata manager.
Justin Bieber it is.
That's not passive aggressive enough. You need to play the anti-smoking ads.
Take the speaker out on the balcony which I assume is directly above the smokers balcony and play the anti smoking ads here!
Yeh, play music.
Smoke on the water. Deep purple.
Blue Smoke - Dolly Parton
Hot Smoke and Sasafrass - Bubble Puppy.
Or go for the really blatant 'I Don't Smoke by DJ DeeKline'.
Or just take the advice of Bobbified.
Beneath you?
Drop marbles at night.
Heavy foot steps in high heals
toy dog dragging a chain all day every day.
Bikies
I tried bikies, didn't work. They ended up smoking with the neighbours. In the end it was easier to take up smoking myself and now we're all bikies
Hahaha best comment ever
Buy a high pressure fire extinguisher
Water your balcony everyday while they're out smoking. Hopefully they get drips and splatters on their face. Worked for me until I decided to move out.
I like this approach, but live on the 37th floor, so would sadly be wetting the balconies of 35 innocent floors :-/
Car exhaust from driving and walking around the city is probably killing you faster.
Doesn't smell so horrible though
It also serves a moderately useful purpose, unlike smoking.
have really loud sex
Loud sex involves heavy breathing which means bigger breaths of the drifting smoke!
have really loud sex
I don't think OP gets any
Really loud solo sex.
Your replies here are hilarious. You seem to be holding some emotional baggage in regards to this - has somebody complained about you being a bad neighbour in the past?
Sorry nothing you can do except close the door or window.
At least it's not marijuana….we had a neighbour doing that. Far worse smell!
debatable >_<
Different smokes for different folks I guess…
Write a letter. Asking if they can smoke during the times Ur at work. Or before bedtime.
Any advice on this?
You can only Close doors/windows
/thread
Passive aggressive post-it note.
which state ?
NSW
Complain to the strata, smoking is clear breach of the by-laws.
Ignore the comments here and fight for your right of clean breathable air. I hate 2nd hand smoking and please ignore as***s who smoke without any considerations to others.
Similar situation, neighbours smoke. It comes over the garden fence. I close the door.
I'm not sure there is much else I can do. I mean, it is their home. Frustrating but… Closing the door is easier than stressing about it.
I second the previous recommendation for bikies
Similar situation here. I just moved to an apartment and at least two other residents around me smoke on their balcony. I can't even open the windows in the evening. Hopefully it becomes less of an issue as it gets colder here (in SA).
Counteract by burning lavender or any other floral incense OR Chinese joss sticks. ♨️😬
I was also in a similar situation. I think the best way is for your neighbour to tell you at set times when he/she will smoke and you can be prepared to close all windows.
It really sucks and I hate breathing in the smoke coming from the balcony below. If you’re too late to close the windows/doors, put the air conditioning on full blast (just in fan mode) and turn on all fans and open the door facing the inside of the apartment. It’s a bit extreme and I used to do this a number of times a day, but eventually I moved out due to other reasons.
Where I’m living now my next door neighbour cooks using his BBQ grille outside on the balcony every day. Eh. I give up - but at least you can hear him about to start cooking, usually at the same time each evening so there’s enough time to close the doors. He also uses those mosquito insense/coils otherwise some petroleum based repellent torch which can stink up the entire block of flats… I asked him if he could use odourless mosquito repellent… he tried it for a while and went back to that smokey stuff. Anyway. Sometimes you can only deal with it to minimise your exposure.
getting tired now. the number of negs clearly shows no one agrees with you. please stop responding
I know this post is not exactly the same, but it actually reminds me of the people who bought the newly developed apartments near Luna Park in Sydney and then later complained about all the noise coming from the park.
RIP Big Dipper. :'(
Has the world gone crazy? Comments like give them a schedule of specific times they can smoke?
Obviously smoking should be banned in indoor public places, but not in their own homes. Try walking into a cafe in Austria.
Then let them smoke in their own homes with the doors shut so there smoke doesn't bother other people. Obviously they go out on the balcony because they don't want their apartment smelling of smoke, why should they have the right to impinge this on other people. I think the Strata laws cover the issue well indicating that people have a right to not have smoke impinging on their property.
Next time if a person cooks and the smells drip to someone else apartment, is it right to ask that person stop cooking and eating sandwich instead because you don't like the smell?
Last I heard, a toasted sandwich wasn't carcinogenic.
What are they cooking that is proven to cause cancer just by smelling it, Asbestos toasted sandwich?
@Bargs:
Find me a study showing that the smell of smoke is carcinogenic. Yes, moderate exposure to an indoor smoking environment is, but not a bit of a waft from downstairs. Lighting a coal BBQ would be equivalent to 6 months of that.
move to a ground level apartment
Sneak into their apartment and install smoke alarms all over the place but make sure they are well hidden lololololol
That's illegal.
Thanks for the tip.
That's illegal.
Well doh
Qld passed law for having linked smoke detectors in every room. So you'd probably be helping their place become compliant.
Take a leak off the balcony
Bonus points while the neighbour is smoking and managing to put the cigarette out
High score if you eat a lot of asparagus and there's a headwind.
Then you're ready for the next level: Explosive diarrhoea over the balcony.
Too far?
Collect some urine (Human is fine, dog may be better) - put it in a cheap water pistol, lean over the balcony and spray around their balcony door. Not enough to leave a puddle, but enough to dry and be smelly. they will be less prone to go out on the balcony…
step 1 go to window
step 2 close window
step 3 go on ozbargain to whinge about something else.
seems to me we are becoming whingeaboutstupidshitebay20%offbargain.
Nailed it lol. Whingebargain
Let's guess who negged you
whingers?
Next thread: "How do I close a window?"
That's so crap. Smokers either have nfi how much their smoke travels, or they are just too rude to care. So much hate
The latter
move to a nicer neighbourhood where the neighbours only do coke.
And ensure your in the apartment below, so you have dust floating down from balcony.
Have a BBQ out on your balcony, then 'accidentally' leave the gas valve open just before they head out for their morning smoke.
Ensure you have a large fire blanket covering your balcony window at the time.
is gas lighter or heavier than oxygen ?
it won't flow downwards i guess
Propane is heavier than air, while natural gas is lighter than air
I've been the smoker that's had a neighbour complain for this exact reason!
I understand smoking is bad for me, you and everyone else but it's already hard enough to smoke anywhere and now you want to restrict people from smoking on their balcony as well? When I loved in Sydney in an old apartment block you couldn't, like others have stated, smoke in common areas so if I couldn't smoke on my balcony it would leave me to go to a nature strip.
It's completely unreasonable to expect that after all the anti smoking laws that people can't smoke at home. Seriously it got banned in pubs and bars, so we go outside to smoke. People who are just drinking when they could be inside complain about the smoke. Now beer gardens can't be smoke in if food is served leaving a crappy little area to smoke.
We pay enough to smoke for the horrible habit so just close the windows or move. Not ideal? Neither are all the stupid laws and increasing costs to smoke but that doesn't matter does it? Because that doesn't affect you.
I agree, what's wrong with someone enjoying a cigarette on their own balcony? One smoke should not take more than 5 minutes, it's not indoors so the smell should not stay there for long. Can you just avoid the balcony if you don't like the smell during the 5 minutes that someone else is smoking? Or do you sit on your balcony constantly?
Cause people like the OP like to take advantage of the nanny laws in NSW. Bunch of crybabies
I have two lots of neighbours that smoke. One smokes for five mins maybe twice a night. The other smokes for 10 mins every 20 mins. Your tolerance levels change significantly based on the length and frequency.
The smoke lingers longer than five minutes. Especially if your balcony door is open (which it is most of the time - until some (profanity) smokes) and it then goes inside.
And it’s completely unreasonable to expect other people not being able to breathe smoke free in their own home either
Some people can smoke literally the whole day (6+ hours) non stop, not just 5 minutes.
You have plenty of options besides forcing other people to breathe your smoke.
Unreasonable! This would be impacting the smoker, we couldn’t have that…
Obnoxious people will always be the same, always think it’s whingers impacting them
Yeah them and some other users think that it's reasonable for a smoker to break their lease and spend all the time and money moving rather than the offended neighbor closing their windows when they smell smoke.
@c0balt: maybe hey shouldn’t have signed a lease in a property where their actions would be impacting other residents adversely.
Plenty of free standing homes out there that wouldn’t have this issue.
@c0balt: maybe they shouldn't have signed a lease on a place where they can't smoke if they already smoked.
If they took it up after signing the lease they were pretty dumb to start smoking when they lived somewhere they couldn't smoke.
Your argument is like saying someone with a dog moved into a block of apartments that had no pets allowed and complaining they had to move when neighbours complained of their dog barking all the time. It is pretty easy - don't move there in the first place or don't get a dog after moving there.
Wouldn't the smoke trigger the fire alarm if you smoke inside?
No smoke alarms are not built to trigger cigarette smoke. Fire smoke is a lot denser than cigarette smoke which despite all the whinging these days about it is very fine.
why don't you smoke inside with the doors closed rather than on your balcony? If you think smoking is OK then you should have no trouble with just doing that little thing to help your neighbours?
If you rent you're not allowed to smoke inside. Only homeowners can smoke inside.
why don't you smoke inside with the doors closed
And then when the balcony door is opened…
then shut it, the mechanics aren't difficult.
@bobbified: Not really - a smoker knows that smoking is going to happen before smoking, so they can close the door. Their upstairs neighbour only knows when the smoker has already been smoking long enough for the smoke to get up into their apartment, at which point in time closing the door only locks the smoke in.
Examples of decent things other people might do for you:
For something that literally causes cancer, forcing others to deal with it for your personal addiction/stress/image/etc is pretty indecent.
I agree with what you're saying but then if we are being considerate in all sense we shouldn't live in apartments at all, or built up areas.
Should we all start complaining about music, movies, babies, walking or even just living?
My point was to say that I agree that it isn't good but it's part of our world and we all need to live together. Consideration goes both ways other wise we are only catering to the needs of others and never factoring in anything or yourself.
I guess it's like being on a plane with young children or babies. Families are entitled to take holidays by plane and that means sometimes dealing with a crying or misbehaving kid. Yes that's not harmful to your health but still need to consider how you act in that situation.
Also not singling you out just hit reply on my phone and it's to your comment but this was to anyone who wants to read it.
Smoking is a choice, having babies kind of isn't unless you don't mind the eventual extinction of the human race in 80 years. They aren't really comparable. Playing music and smoking is more comparable, they are both choices that you can easily live without.
And anyway most parents are as considerate ad they can be by packing safe sedatives for their children on planes or taking them into the bathroom if they won't settle after a short time. Parents that take babies into movie theatres and let them cry for an hour and don't take them out are more akin to smokers who let their spoke travel to other people's houses.
hard enough to smoke anywhere
Yeah, there's practically no outdoors anywhere, whatever will you do? :eyeroll:
A balcony is outdoors…
Suck it up. There is no where else they can smoke. Let them smoke in there own place.
Maybe they should have thought about this when choosing to purchase/rent an apartment.
in there own place.
where?
There is no where else they can smoke
Literally almost any outdoor space. Can't tell it troll or just deeply, deeply stupid.
What if that smoker happens to be a metal fan?
Continue smoking and headbanging to some cannibal corpse / thy art is murder shit….
Lol