[FIRST EDIT] My DELL XPS 15 (9560) Experience - Looking for Advice (Legal or Otherwise)

Original post below. Been busy with some final Semester One assignments, so, sorry about the late replies… Currently waiting on Dell to pick up the second and third laptops, which is taking longer than it should. I've arranged to send back the first laptop once I have bought something else.

I recently bought a Dell XPS Laptop. It was a 15", 16GB RAM, 512 SSD. I was looking for a contender to the Apple MacBook Pro that was much cheaper as I'm a student and have a set budget. I did a lot of research and although I saw and read some mixed reviews, I decided to get one.

It arrived and looked great. I was really happy with the build quality, it felt solid and well-made. I didn't mind that I couldn't open it with one hand as I felt that it was a sign of it's sturdiness.

Another thing to mention is that I was given a date re/ delivery (it was a Wednesday). I called and asked if it would be delivered directly to my house or if I should go to the Post Office and they assured me it would come to my house. I had an assignment due and my old computer died a few days earlier. I needed every second I could get to work on my essay. Lo and behold, it went to the Post Office at 4:38pm and I was waiting at home until 5pm, like they advised, for nothing and lost a day of being able to work. Ridiculous! Finally, the next day, I picked it up and hurried my essay.

I started using it and before a day or two it started having some glitches. First, there were strange green pixelations on the video, then the web pages would zoom right in without me even doing anything. Then the volume starting intermittently muting out of the blue. I tried refreshing, that didn't work, then I had to reload the entire browser which did bring the volume back. I also had some white residue appear out of nowhere (after closing and opening it - and I take exceptional care of my belongings) near the hinge. On top of that, the fingerprint reader wasn't working sometimes. I was so disappointed because I loved the feel of it. If only it just worked!

I contacted Dell support and they seemed good at first. They remotely accessed my laptop and updated a heap of drivers. The problems persisted.

I contacted them a further time and once again they remotely updated the drivers (and whatever else they did) and the problems persisted.

By now, I also had to deal with one or two incompetent representatives, one which was so bad, I made a complaint. I was later offered an apology by the reviewing Supervisor who listened to the bizarre behaviour of the rep via recording.

I sent them screenshots of all the problems and they continued monitoring my laptop (not exactly what you want when using a private computer!).

I decided they had tried enough times to fix it so I requested a replacement. However, since their replacement procedure required a gap of me not having a computer for school, I was essentially forced to buy a second laptop. Importantly, this was becoming a distraction for my studies, too, and causing me to pay double until the problems were resolved affecting my savings and banking interest.

SO! The second laptop arrived, supposedly brand new. Expecting to finally have a working laptop, I opened the box and found a laptop with an unravelled cord, a bent, yes bent screen (at least 8mm at the centre) and a dirty touchpad! What the hell?!

I put it straight back in the box! I contacted Dell, and staying calm, explained the situation, giving them the benefit of the doubt, even though the second laptop was clearly used! So, here I was with two laptops, one with major software issues, the other with faulty, dirty hardware. They offered a replacement, as well as a delay on returning the first one which I could still use (putting up with the software issues in the meantime), until the third laptop would arrive when finally they would get it right! My love for the Dell XPS design was quickly wearing thin by now.

Finally, nearly two months after my initial purchase, the third floptop arrived. The Star Track courier was meant to deliver it to my door which is untrue as I was home all day. Yet again, I had to wait until the next day to see what I would get. Well, again, the screen didn't sit flush (this time "splitting" into a three or four millimetre gap as it went from left to right (while closed) and surprise, surprise, the same green glitches! The cord was fine but the battery was nearly dead which I thought was odd considering the other two were fully charged. There were also a couple of blemishes on the outer top panel which were permanent. I decided to use it for the night but the next day, I thought, no way! Enough!

By now, I was at my wit's end. I'd been patient and courteous and I let them know, firmly, how upset I was that they could do this. Yet, I was caught in a dilemma. Even though they offered a full refund on both purchases, I would still be forced to deal with a gap of not having a computer for school which was NOT AN OPTION. I was confused as to what to do, notwithstanding the exhaustion I was going through from school. So, based on the cost compared to the Apple quotes I received, I didn't have much choice but to request (rightfully) a replacement again in the slim hope they would get it right for once! I had pretty much assumed by now they were sending me the final dregs of the XPS 15. Units which were potentially refurbs. But not even bothering to check and clean a touchpad? Disgraceful.

Well, they refused to send a replacement. I just wanted what I paid for but they made me feel like it was somehow my fault I was receiving these floptops! They said they had already sent two repalcements and that was enough but they failed to consider I actually made two separate purchases, so technically, one replacement was delivered!

It's such a shame because I actually love the look and feel of the XPS, and the 4K screen is superb. What a buzzkill!

I've since received a great quote (better then UniDays) and I'm about to buy an iMac but it won't have the portability of a laptop which I need. I don't know what to do.

Does anyone have any advice, please?! I'll be ignoring inane comments.

Thanks in advance.

P.S. Let this be a warning to anyone considering buying a Dell XPS 9560. And as far as I can tell, the 8th gen models are practically identical. If Dell managed to resolve this properly, I will galdly edit this forum post but I'd like to know if I deserve to be compensated somehow by them for the trouble and stress and distraction they've caused me. On top of everything else, they are now forcing me to delay rolling over my Term Deposit, which I add funds to every year,which is costing me more interest!

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        • Whoa, calm down there champ, I didn't assume anything. All I said was that "I have to wonder…"; and considering the issues you've had (if they are all really as bad as you've described), you've had a lot of bad luck. So it made more sense to me that you had purchased refurbished units (that first replacement one at least).

          As mentioned elsewhere, I've purchased many Dell units in the past, both for home and work, and refurbished and new; and while there have been issues with some, they've all been resolved via support, and where a technician visit was required, within a couple of days. I used to despise Dell 10 years ago.

        • +1

          Did you buy it from Dell's ebay store? It's entirely possible that dodgy sellers are buying the refurbs from the factory outlet and selling them as 'new' on ebay. If that were the case, it would explain why dell kept replacing your laptop with other refurbs. If you're not sure, you might want to check with them.

        • +5

          @Singu1arity:

          Starts with "Bullshit" and accuses others of not being calm.

          I stated:

          The second laptop arrived, supposedly brand new.

          You gleaned nothing from this. Do you think they do that for people who buy refurbs?

          I have to wonder whether OP bought a refurbished unit originally and the replacement was also a refurb…

          Solid detective work here, and a blatant assumption…

          I didn't assume anything

          but continues…

          and considering the issues you've had (if they are all really as bad as you've described)

          Further assumption. Lol.

          Types "lot" in bold. Some stealthy subtext there.

          Further assumption.

          Whoa, calm down there champ

          Patronising. I was calm; just responding.

          "I have to wonder" whether your brain is malfunctioning. That's not an assumption, I supplied a preludial caveat.

        • +1

          @macrocephalic: The first one was bought via Dell on Ebay, the second (including the replacement) from Dell's website. Good question, though! Cheers.

        • @attackshipsonfire:

          Why are you getting so worked up about this? For starters, my "Bullshit" comment was to nubzy not you; in response to the "Dell XPS line is rubbish" comment. They have received a lot of great reviews online and are regarded as good all-round laptops, build quality, performance, and design. So yeah, I call that a bullshit comment.

          You mentioned "second laptop arrived, supposedly brand new." You do realise you can purchase "as new" listed laptops on the Dell Outlet right?

          "and considering the issues you've had (if they are all really as bad as you've described)"

          That quote doesn't indicate I've assumed anything; you did describe a bunch of issues, none of us here know whether you have or haven't exaggerated any of it.

          Also, you do realise that bold text is used as a means of bringing attention to a specific word/point; not sure how you consider that stealthy but ok…

          Ha, you've not supplied an preludial caveat; you've just proven you read way too much into things and come to completely incorrect conclusions.

        • @Singu1arity: Worked up? Lol. The rest of your speech is not worth addressing.

        • @attackshipsonfire:

          (-‸ლ)
          
    • +2

      We have a number of these at work and their sister lattitude line, no issues so far at all.

      • Painful to read these comments, lol, but still happy for you. :)

    • What it has to do with Indian support staff?

      • From my experience they tend to ignore the problem that you are having. They just read the checklist that they have. If after this the problem persists they get you another guy that does the same. The vicious circle continues until you throw the laptop out the window.

  • +7

    JUst…

    Buy…

    a

    Business

    Laptop

    • +11

      I'll

      Look

      Into

      It :)

    • +6

      XPS pretty much is the upper level business range. The execs at our company get XPS' while the rest of us get latitudes.

      • +1

        We had the Precision back then instead of the XPS. They are frigging awesome… until the batteries popped, though Dell support was happy to replace them all.

        • I nearly bought the Anniversary Edition…

      • +1

        Because they look the part, not because they are built the same.
        Latitudes are vert different beasts.
        Personally i would prefer a T or X series thinkpad.

        As for the OP, it sounds like you have a business like requirement for uptime (since you dont have a spare older machine?).
        Therefore you must do what the businesses do and but a Thinkpad T or X series or a Latitude 5 or 7 series and proper warranty.

        • Appreciate the advice. Cheers.

      • They get XPS and do less work :P

      • XPS is not a business laptop.

        You should be happy that you have a latitude.
        Latitudes 7000 and Precision workstation laptops are the only ones worth buying.

  • The only Dell laptops worth buying are Dell Latitudes, the other offerings are rubbish

    • +6

      I disagree, I have 3 Dells, in daily use for different tasks, never had an issue that wasn't fixed with a driver upgrade.

      Vostro 15" 4Gb purchased 2009, upgraded to SSD - runs 24/7
      Inspiron 17" 16Gb daily work horse, purchased 2013, upgraded to SSD - runs 24/7
      Precision 5520 - my travel laptop. Handles the bumps & knocks of travel with ease

      • It looks like you were one of the lucky ones. However, I'm trying to upgrade the drivers myself and so far haven't seen the green glitches. The fingerprint scanner has improved but last night the volume self-muted again… Sheesh. I thought about getting the Precision recently, perhaps I should have.

        • Maybe worth trying a fresh clean windows install and basically don't manually install any dell drivers if you're still not having any luck

        • @Brandiano: Thanks. I thought about that, too. It's on the list of options. In fact, Dell openly admitted that some of it's Windows installations could be corrupted.

        • Nah, I would have purchased may over 20 Dells in the last 5 years, all from the Outlet store and all refurbs. All have been perfect for initial delivery. I only buy Latitudes and Precisions (Precisions are just mostly XPS's these days with pro graphics). Yes, there have been problems (faulty screens developing over time). But all were fixed with a same or next day onsite tech.

          On one machine they even couriered out an ac adaptor SAME DAY when the machine was well out of warranty and didn't charge for the replacement adaptor or courier fee. That seriously impressed me.

          I'm typing on a Precision 5510 purchased two years ago from the Dell Outlet.

        • @BlinkyBill: I nearly bought a Precision…

        • @Brandiano: Is Windows physical?

    • Thanks for your comment. It seems there is definitely a hit/ miss ratio with Dell, possibly more than with other manufacturers. I considered the Latitude and the Inspiron 17. What computer do you currently use and do you recommend it?

      • I'm currently rocking an ancient Lenovo T430 with i5-3320M, 8 GB RAM and SSD. I replaced my battery once in 2015 and it's still going strong with over 5 hours per charge - I put in the old battery when my laptop is docked though.

        My old man swears by Dell Latitudes because that's what work gives him, and he says he won't use any other type of laptop. I swear by Lenovo thinkpad T series laptops because the trackpoint is the best. I'm due for a new laptop soon and will get a T480 when it goes on sale.

        • Thank you. I really appreciate people taking the time to help. All the best.

        • +1

          Im also a thinkpad guy but ive had access to a Latitude 7470 recently and the trackpoint equiv is just as good and the LCD they use is even brighter with better colour than any of the T4x0 thinkpads ive used. Its a pretty tight race it seems!

        • @Danthemanz: what about the keyboard? I’m not a big fan of the low profile trackpoint caps but it seems later generations have keyboards with reduced travel.

    • For business purposes - this is true. The Latitudes are designed for business use, which you can tell by the better build quality than the XPS (but also higher price tag).

      • Wouldn’t you agree that your personal laptop is more important than your work laptop?

        • Business laptops used in a business setting make people money. A failed business laptop can cost a business lots of money.

          Personal laptops are typically for leisure. If it fails, you won't be losing sales, and you would probably be able to survive till it gets repaired.

          So in that sense, I think a work laptop is more important. Different people have different scenarios though!

  • +3

    MSI gaming laptop, can't beat the price for high end everything.

    • +3

      Not sure if this applies to the OP, but there are people out there who dislike bringing gaming laptops to uni/work because they're too conspicuous, what with the red-and-black colour scheme, aggressive angles, gaudy logos, and colourful keyboards.

      Of course, there are more subtle-looking gaming laptops, like the Gigabyte Aero 15X, the Razer Blade 15, or the gorgeous MSI Stealth Thin, but a quick search says the XPS 15 9560 starts at $1899, so I assume the OP's budget is around $2000, and the laptops I've listed cost a lot more than that.

      I'm not saying your suggestion should be disregarded, I just think it's a bit unwise to suggest a gaming laptop when the OP makes no mention of wanting to play games; heck, they might not even like video games. Buying something with like a GTX 1060 to do uni work on seems like a bit of a waste.

      • Thanks. Yes, I don't need it for gaming. I have a PS4 for that and it's been sitting in the box for nearly two years, unopened (shameful). Too busy with studies… I agree about the gaudiness of the conspicuous design features of gaming laptops, which you outlined. Not a fan. I like a minimalist design with neat, straight lines. I also noticed some of the gaming laptops I've seen at school are quite noisy. Apart from the problems I've faced, the XPS is so quiet and I haven't noticed any coil whine… Will look into the models you mentioned, though. Perhaps I'll come across a bargain.

        • @attackshipsonfire
          Dude sell the PS4 and buy a MacBook. I
          don't have many Apple products but for what you need the MacBook is perfect. Also their support is top notch, just walk straight into an Apple store.

        • -1

          @rlay3: I've been thinking about selling it but want to open it when I buy a house. By then the PS6 will have come out but oh well. :)

    • Yes, my school recommends these and I used them in class once or twice. Looked good but I love the minimalist simplicity of the XPS. Just wish it worked. Will look into MSI, though.

  • +1

    I have had several Dell XPS notebooks over the years. Their build quality seems to have dropped which is a shame because they make great notebooks.

    I recommend continuing to complain and escalate. If you don't receive a refund or a working unit, make a full history of your experience and write to an executive of the company.

    In my experience, I had a number of issues which were finally resolved to my satisfaction however I'm not sure I'll buy another while these kinds of reports persist. I've always liked Dell notebooks though. They have the best keyboards!

    • Thanks for the great advice. I considered doing that but it all seems like such a waste of my time (which these companies capitulate on). I'll definitely consider it, though, once my study load decreases in a couple of weeks. And yes, they are beautiful laptops. I'm in love with the design which is blinding my judgment, I think…

    • Ask for a refund. Start a paypal dispute.

      Get your money back and start from square one.

      • Just waiting for one last response via Dell's Ebay rep who has been communicating with Head Office.

    • The XPS line have horrible keyboards! Lenovo Thinkpad have the best by far.

      • I don't mind the XPS keyboard but I don't have much to compare it to than my second hand Pavilion which died and an Acer Aspire which died years ago. However, I did notice a difference between the keyboards of the three XPSs I received. The second two felt strange, hard to explain it, but the first one, which I'm typing on right now, feels smooth.

  • +6

    " If Dell managed to resolve this properly, I will galdly edit this forum post but I'd like to know if I deserve to be compensated somehow by them for the trouble and stress and distraction they've caused me. On top of everything else, they are now forcing me to delay rolling over my Term Deposit, which I add funds to every year,which is costing me more interest!"

    I was feeling sorry for you until I read this. Seriously? How are they meant to compensate you exactly? A refund of the faulty items is sufficient which you were offered.

    You purchased another expensive laptop instead of running down to the local JB Hifi or wherever and buying some cheap thing off the shelf to tide you over, and you think you should be compensated for your choice to buy a second pricey laptop?

    Get your refunds and buy a different brand/model laptop.

      • -2

        Duh.

      • +1

        Why not, clearly you don't take ownership of your problems.

        YOU delayed rolling over YOUR term deposit because YOU wanted to spend the money YOU put aside for investments.

        The common theme is you.

        • -2

          Your ineptitude is boring me.

  • I managed to get a refund for the 13" version of that model - customer service was horrific to deal with and at one point they told me that the laptop was stolen and was no longer eligible for prosupport. This is after 2 motherboard replacements and other multiple issues including dangerous overheating.

    Eventually I got a full refund - it was a horrible experience and I think pursuing compensation (in your case) would be extra stress and not worth it.

    On a side note, the XPS 15 9560 is well known for their overheating and constant issues - I have had these confirmed by multiple technicians. Unfortunately, we also use these laptops, along with other dell equipment. They are incredibly useless and their hardware is sub-par. On top of that, it took over 8months to get the warranty details sorted, and fight for the prosupport that we paid for. When it is time to get new hardware, I'm going to recommend going with another brand.

    Dell customer service is shocking and doesn't even pass for "service". Ergh.

    BTW - yes they did send you refurbished units. It's what they do.

    TLDR - take full refund and walk (run) away. Dell are not what they used to be.

    • Thanks. Your experience sounds terrible and not surprising. Agree that the stress is not worth it. I have enough to deal with (school-wise). What options do you have in mind if you're able to change brands? These companies are oh-so-friendly when they're selling you something but when something goes wrong, their tone goes all Silent Hill. Lol. It seemed very apparent that the second and third units were used/ refurbs. Do you have any evidence to support Dell sending refurb units? If so, would appreciate any info. I think I'll be accepting the full refund which is a shame because it's a gorgeous looking laptop. Dammit!

      • Its sad you've had such a bad run with this great laptop. I own the top the xps 15 which has been a great laptop over the last six months been running a virtual environment on it with no over heating or issues with the screen. Unfortunately dell, hp and lenovo are all as bad as each other to deal with when it comes to support. I work in IT and have had to deal with all of them at some stage. If you are looking for compensation ask Dell to email you their final offer then go to consumer affairs the process will take months and you need to be reasonable with your request for compensation. You might get a new laptop sent out and couple hundred if you are lucky. Given where you are with Dell at present I would take the refunds offered. Your best option might be to pay more and go to a brick and mortar store pick a new device and see if they can offer a return to store if the device is faulty within x amount of days. Try maybe scorptec they have excellent customer service and pretty good prices.

        • Thanks. I've already been in touch with Consumer Affairs and they put me in touch with VCAT. There is around a $450 fee to take it to a Magistrate but the fee can be waived under certain circumstances. I was advised to contact the Consumer Law Action Centre which I plan on doing tomorrow.

      • It is a nice looking laptop, but not worth the pain :\ They are notorious for overheating.

        I think the other options for our company are:
        - Lenovo x1 carbon (but I think they were recalled recently)

        • HP probook

        • Dell Latitude (but that would mean dealing with Dell)

        For personal use, I would recommend Toshiba or my personal favourite, Asus.

        • Thanks. Mine hasn't had issues with overheating at all and is super quiet. Then again, I haven't pushed it too far yet, software-wise.

      • +1

        I think it says in their support T&Cs that they can send refurbished equipment whenever they want to

  • +4

    First off, I'm really sorry that you've been put through all this crap; I've been through a similar nightmare (with a different company) and I understand how stressful this must be. I just want to give you a hug, lol.

    Filing a complaint with the ombudsman (http://www.fos.org.au/) is an option, although from what I've read in forums, results are hit-or-miss. But that's not my area of expertise; I'm here to recommend laptops.

    Lenovo X1 Carbon: https://www3.lenovo.com/au/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-x/Th…
    Starts from $1799
    + Sturdy
    + Light
    + Long battery life
    - Not as attractive as a MacBook
    - Screen is 14", not 15.6"

    Lenovo Yoga Y920: https://www.harveynorman.com.au/lenovo-yoga-920-3p-13-9-2-in… / https://www3.lenovo.com/au/en/laptops/yoga/yoga-900-series/Y…
    Starts from $1798
    + More stylish than X1 Carbon
    + 2-in-1
    - Keyboard isn't as good as X1 Carbon
    - 14" screen

    Microsoft Surface Pro: https://www.harveynorman.com.au/microsoft-surface-pro-i5-8gb…
    Keyboard covers: https://www.harveynorman.com.au/microsoft-surface-pro-type-c… / https://www.harveynorman.com.au/microsoft-surface-pro-type-c…
    Starts from $1694
    + 2-in-1
    + Great display
    + Premium design
    - Need to buy keyboard and stylus separately

    I hope this helps :)

    • +1

      Thanks so much. It has been stressful, but also, disappointing, frustrating and, especially, distracting. I could do with a hug!

      Appreciate the suggestions. Will check them out. Have a great day!

      • Renewd is great

        • I'd never heard of them, thanks.

        • @attackshipsonfire: They have greqt refurbished pcs at great prices. Got a lenovo from them. Well worth it and a great savinb

        • @namenottaken: Thanks again.

    • Keep in mind Lenovo have international warranty on Thinkpads

      If you can get one from the USA you may save a bit. Warranty can be calculated by the serial number and build date.

      Amazon.com
      https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B072LS5KPF/

      Lenovo Australia
      https://www3.lenovo.com/au/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-p-se…

    • Don't get a Yoga they have documented problems with the screen. I do however recommend a higher end Lenovo they are very reliable laptops. Apples pretty good but their support is usually excellent. And whatever you do don't get a Microsoft surface a report came out recently that stated they are by far the most unreliable piece of rubbish you can buy.

      • Appreciate the advice. Most people have been super helpful.

      • Thanks. Sorry for late reply, been dealing with assignments…

  • +2

    Someone should make a public list of service tags of returned dell laptops, so anyone can check if their replacement is a refurb.

    Sorry OP, it does look like a lot of QC issues reported with Dell laptops, but can't say for sure if their failure rate is any better or worse than other manufacturers as that data isn't available. It may seem like there are more complaints about Dell because they sell more than other manufacturers but I don't know if that is true either (sales numbers not available).

    • Thank you. Excellent point. That type of resource should be available and I wondered (soon after the first purchase) if there was a database to that effect. That's when I discovered there's a program that can check your computer for previous use, but I didn't go any further. Really appreciate the advice and info.

  • There used to be an Australian consumer complaint site called http://www.notgoodenough.org/.
    Oh wait, there still is!

    • I shall check it out rather than not. :) I was also told about the Consumer Action Law Centre. 1800466477, 10 - 1pm, for those interested.

    • +1

      There used to be an Australian consumer complaint site called http://www.notgoodenough.org/(notgoodenough.org).
      Oh wait, there still is!

      Have you looked at that site?
      Its dead as a dodo.
      Look at the poll:

      Will Tony Abbott last as PM to end of 2015?
      Yes
      No
      Login to vote

      No pages or site functions work. Not very helpful huh…

  • I have the exact model that you have, I did have issues initiall, flickering screen, white noise, overheating, 90% of the CPU being used when only a couple of things were being open and overly loud fan for no reason.

    It's been a bit over a year now and it seems like things have settled, I tried to go through all the efforts that you did but they couldn't detect problems on mine, I updated everything, and occassionally I'd face an issue, but it's otherwise been a agreat laptop and I really enjoy it.

    Customer service is crap though.

    • Thanks for sharing your experience. Yes, when it runs properly, it's a great unit. I'm considering continuing updating the first one and hoping for the best, but it's a worry.

      • I have had a 9550 (stolen) with no issues. I got a 9560 and its SSD failed within a month. Tech replaced on site next day. No issues since one year later.
        I'd get an X1 Carbon if buying today. These days if you need a dedicated graphics card you can buy one of those eGPU units.

        • Appreciate the info, thanks.

    • Hi Pyro my xps 15 is 6 months old with the 4k touch screen I haven't had any of the issues you mentioned but one thing I would have done differently to most is wipe the machine and do a fresh install of the operating system because I needed the enterprise version of windows 10 and wanted no crap ware.

  • Bloody hell mate!

  • +1

    Poor experience. Sorry OP.
    I have never had a bad experience with Dell.

    All our xps', inspirons, latitudes and monitors have been spot on.

    We only buy Dell.
    I hope it all gets fixed up.

    • Thanks, me too. I just want what I paid for.

  • +2

    I was looking for a contender to the Apple MacBook Pro

    I didn't mind that I couldn't open it with one hand

    it went to the Post Office at 4:38pm and I was waiting at home until 5pm, like they advised, for nothing and lost a day of being able to work. Ridiculous!

    I also had to deal with one or two incompetent representatives, one which was so bad, I made a complaint

    However, since their replacement procedure required a gap of me not having a computer for school, I was essentially forced to buy a second laptop.

    The Star Track courier was meant to deliver it to my door which is untrue as I was home all day. Yet again, I had to wait until the next day to see what I would get.

    The cord was fine but the battery was nearly dead which I thought was odd considering the other two were fully charged.

    I just wanted what I paid for but they made me feel like it was somehow my fault I was receiving these floptops!

    You might have some legit problems, but you sound like an entitled kid whining

    • +1

      Yep, add " I was essentially forced to buy a second laptop" to the list.
      Library, friends, family, gumtree. But no, she was forced.

      Should've said no in the second attempt at drivers and requested an express exchange.

      • -4

        Without knowing my geographical location or family/ social situation you seem to have all the answers. Not to mention, one of my classes is online.

        Yawn.

    • -1

      The facts I outlined are clear as day. It was Easter week so I couldn't even go to the Library in the remote area I live in. Entitled kid? If only you knew where I've come from and how long I've waited to go to Uni (due to personal reasons and which I managed after returning to complete my VCE last year at 45yo). Everything I'm achieving is through determination, hard work and a shit-tonne of isolation and I don't appreciate Dell screwing with me, my time and my money. There is so much I sacrifice to keep building my savings. I don't rely on anyone but myself.

  • I never buy dell after the XPS 15 i got in 2009 near burnt my house down.

    And I have to get my money back from them after going to VCAT for the alienware 11.

    Apple,Lenovo,MS all over priced.
    I have best experience with Asus followed by Acer.

    • Sorry to read about your experiences. Scary stuff! What happened with the XPS that caused a fire and what was the problem with the Alienware?

      • On XPS 15 there is some problem with charger, melted both it self and my power point.

        Alienware hinge was mounted on plastic, broke 3 time within 10 month. Promised replacement unit, never came. Took them to VCAT and got the money back.

        • Yikes. Glad you're OK. I've heard there are issues with hinges on Dell laptops.

        • +1

          Dell was also shipping thousands of laptops with faulty batteries. Most of the batteries ran fine until warranty ran out. The batteries basically expanded and started crushing components on laptops. Apparently Dell replaced them under warranty but a lot of people got the finger when it was out of warranty. One of many threads about this issue: https://www.dell.com/community/Laptops-General/XPS-15-9550-T… | https://www.reddit.com/r/Dell/comments/6yoovq/swollen_dell_5…

        • @overshopper:
          My 9550 did this, battery swelled to the point you couldn't click the touchpad. They told me to get stuffed as it was out of warranty. They finally recalled them about a month after I gave up and bought another grey market battery.

        • @overshopper: Yes, I've heard about this issue. I'm done with Dell. QC is a total joke. Luck of the draw is no way to do business.

  • Hope you get your refunds op. Computers can be a real headache

    • -2

      Thanks. Yes, especially when you're trying to focus on getting a Degree.

  • +3

    First, contact dell premium support, don't bother with anything else and the premium support is worth the extra money. If you're buying a dell factor in the premium support into the budget.

    Second, if you aren't already, use your service tag under the laptop under the XPS label flap and chuck it into the warranty page to check all your details and drivers specific to your laptop: http://www.dell.com/support/home/au/en/audhs1?app=warranty (I would reccomend a BIOS update considering the problems so far)

    Third, you shouldn't be getting refurb laptops. Dell will replace parts 3 times per laptop before they will class it as a lemon and replace, and you shouldn't be being given used laptops when you purchased a new one. You can check the replacement lapop service tags for their warranty periods with those tags as well.

    Fourth, don't give up and continue to use a faulty machine. If it's faulty, put it back in the box it came in and return it. Sucks you won't have one in the meantime but you could look into loan laptops from your educational institution or using the computer labs on campus wherever they are.

    Fifth, log, everything. Call times, who you spoke to, how long you spoke to them, and get them to email you the details. They will if you ask. Just be calm and realise they have a job to do and you have a problem they can fix for you. Every time you have a call to support, describe the problem, how it has impacted you (don't lie, just tell them the exact situation) and the outcome you want from them. Giving them an outcome gives a target for them to work towards and 9/10 times they will work with you towards it, they are obliged to under the consumer law if there are genuine faults such as in your case.

    Good luck!

    • Thanks for taking the time to write what you did.

      I've done most of what you suggested. I haven't tried the BIOS update so I will look into that. I think a fresh Windows install might help if a BIOS update doesn't.

      Unfortunately, I cannot be left without a computer because I live in a small town far from school. I still have assignments due until the 18th of June and my local library is filled with little hooligans. My subjects are very demanding and I can't concentrate there. I'll most likely be returning the first laptop after that date but will initiate the collection of the second and third tomorrow. I'll have around two weeks before Semester 2 starts so if I go for the iMac, it should all work out. I just won't have the portability of the laptop and I don't really like the MacBook Pro. It seems flimsy compared to the XPS. $3850 seems quite reasonable for an iMac, i7, 16gb RAM, 512gb SSD. Resale value is part of the equation, too. Anyway, all's well that ends well.

      All the best.

  • Honestly if you're considering getting the refund and purchasing an iMac (which brings with it portability issues), then I see no reason not to pony up the extra $500 and get yourself an entry level MacBook Pro (without the touch bar, on education pricing). Hell, if you don't need the extra horses skip the Pro all together and get the standard MacBook.

    I'm currently writing this comment on my two year old MacBook Pro Retina, on which the spacebar collapsed last year. I took it to the Apple store and within 2 days the entire lower assembly was replaced, giving me a new keyboard and battery, costing me a total of $0.

    I feel there is real value in purchasing a reliable machine from a company that delivers great after-sales service and an overall experience with less worry/hassle/stress that many choose to overlook due to the inflated price tag, and understandably so.

    • +1

      Thanks for the advice. I'll try and keep an open mind about the MacBook Pro, and consider the options you stated. I do like everything I hear and read about Apple's after sales service.

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