We have a massive price drop on AMD CPUs today, prices are lower than any local/major overseas competitor at time of posting.
Prices below are after applying Ebay 20% OFF coupon code:
Not really worth getting an a320 board like that one, spend a little more and get a b350.
Something else to consider is that b350 boards likely won't work out of the box with newer gen ryzens, so you'd need to find a friend with an old gen Ryzen or get a motherboard with something like USB bios flashback where you don't need a CPU installed to update the bios.
Ah, I glossed over that part. Didn't realise there were variants.
This one then?
Appears to be the cheapest available for this particular model.
Are they STILL not shipping the B350 mobos with the newer BIOS?
I'm going to MSY (Sydney/Auburn store most likely) on the weekend to buy bits for a 4K HTPC. ASRock AB350M Pro4, Ryzen 2400g etc…so is it still a risk to buy the motherboard? Surely the BIOS will be updated enough shipped, to support them now?
If not, what are my chances of MSY plugging in a PSU/CPU etc to update the BIOS for me? Pretty slim, right? It's a 2 hour drive for me, so I need to make sure I confirm it before I leave there.
@scozzie: what are my chances of MSY plugging in a PSU/CPU etc to update the BIOS for me?
Probably less than Zero.
@scozzie: Just a heads up I'd recommend avoiding the Micro ATX pro 4. The ATX variant is fine and one of the best budget b350 boards (On the VRM side), but if you go through pretty much all retailer reviews there's a very common freezing issue that seems to occur after a month or so on the Micro ATX variant.
Not to be anecdotal but it has happened to two of my friends that owned the board and after browsing through reviews it seemed to be rather rampant.
@TrulyUnicorn: Yea I've read that too….and I've hesitated, and read and read and read….but I thought it worth taking a gamble. It can't be THAT common surely?
For all the bad ones, I've read lots of people with no issues at all.
From what I can find, it seems it may be related to RAM, or RAM timings perhaps?
If not this board, which one then? I'm only going to use it for HTPC duties and some iRacing, so it won't be overclocked or anything.
Just thought I'd update - the AB350M Pro 4 I got from MSY yesterday had the P4.50 BIOS. Which is the minimum required for Raven Ridge support. I made sure I checked before handing over any cash. ASRock are good for labeling BIOS chips.
Are you being sarcastic?
Nah just a n00b
Shit, I wish I had the money, because that looks like a good deal.
Great price for the 1700.
A good entry into 8 core cpu and you can do a modest OC to 3.7 ghz with the stock cooler
Help plz - I need a suggestion for a good board with the 2700x - I already have 3200 DDR4 .. and the one thing I have read consistently about going to a Ryzen system is RAM compatibility, which make selecting a board difficult.
RAM compatibility is no longer a major issue for Ryzen. A large array of 3200+ kits work with Ryzen2. I would check the comments on Newegg product listings and the motherboard QVL for specifics.
It was a major issue when the new platform launched. At that point only Samsung B-Die could reliably reach above 2666mhz. That has been fixed, although people still talk about Ram issues and Samsung B-Dies even tho they are no longer relevant (aside from their particularly fast timings).
For the original Ryzen 1xxx chips, this was mostly fixed up with the AGESA1006 microcode update in BIOS. This allowed many Hynix 3200mhz chips to work no problem. Ryzen 2 improve compatibility further since then. I've got my Ryzen 1700 working at 3200mhzCL16 w/ a Corsair LPX 2x8gb kit no problem since the update in two different motherboards :).
I personally got this one for my 2600x. ASRock X470 Master SLI/AC AM4 AMD Promontory X470 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard
It is the best scored one on newegg. I think you may have some issues with overclocking though. https://www.newegg.com/global/au/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N…
https://www.ple.com.au/Products/631817/ASRock-X470-Master-SL…
I don't think ple has the inbuilt wifi?
I have the Asus "ROG CROSSHAIR VII HERO" board with that CPU.
Got my 2400mhz DDR4 running at 3200 and the CPU is at 4.2ghz (all cores).
It's expensive but a great board! The IO shield is built-in, so no leaving it behind by mistake during a case migration "how did I get this cut on my hand?". I wasn't able to get these clocks with an older X370 board prior to this.
https://www.ple.com.au/Products/631476/AMD-Ryzen-5-2600-34Gh…
20 cents cheaper at PLE with free registered shipping…
Technically the same price but still.
+1 because I'd rather support PLE over ShoppingExpress/futu.
Indeed. Try getting an email response or support, ever.
Or an item posted without just being banged around loose in a box with no padding.
Computer Alliance sent my 2700x in a StarTrack express satchel without any padding and CA are one of the more reputable computer stores…
@Neilgero: That's pretty awful, I had my 2700X that I preordered from ShoppingExpress come with bent pins because it somehow suffered a knock on the side of the retail box where the CPU is, enough of a knock to break the back of the plastic CPU holder and that impact bent pins. It wasn't really obvious until the box was open either. They packed it well in an oversized bubble mailer and then inside a box, so it wasn't in transit but earlier in handling, but that sort of impact would happen very frequently just in a satchel.
For the record they did offer to take it back and investigate, but I opted to just fix the pins myself since they weren't bad enough to be likely to break. Also, my 1700 that I bought from Computer Alliance came packed well in a box back in January, so hopefully they don't do that often….
For the record they did offer to take it back and investigate, but I opted to just fix the pins myself since they weren't bad enough to be likely to break.
Kudos to you, I would have definitely returned it for a replacement/refund.
How do you get the free registered shipping?
I'm crunching the numbers here,
Is it really worth saving 20 bucks? I know Ryzen wins in multi core benches but that's about it. AMD is getting better, but I don't know, Intel is still the better buy, at least for me personally.
I was thinking the same - also no integrated GPU with the Ryzen if I'm not mistaken.
also no integrated GPU with the Ryzen if I'm not mistaken.
You aren't, Intel is definitely a better buy for me in this regard, as I would like to use the CPU whilst waiting for a decently priced GPU.
Just depends on what you're trying to do.
For single threaded games, go with the i5.
For development (compiling shit), the PS3 emulator or cpu-mining crypto currency, get the Ryzen.
I bought an 8400 earlier in the year, but honestly at this stage I would go with the 2600.
-> For games , the 8400 has 3-9% lead in single core performance but you can close the gap entirely by gently overclocking the 2600.
-> For multithreaded apps (in the real world, video rendering, file compression, virtualisation) the 2600 destroys the 8400 with ~30% better performance.
-> If you need to upgrade, you can just swap out the CPU of the Ryzen (since the socket is supported until 2020) whereas Intel will likely make you buy a new board and maybe new RAM.
As software and game development becomes more multithreaded (yes we're finally seeing the shift now) the 2600 will improve more than the 8400. The i5-8400 is still a fantastic buy, especially if you need integrated graphics, but the 2600 offers more value IMO.
To add onto this, I actually have both the i5 8400 and the Ryzen 5 2600x.
-> In terms of 1080p gaming, you'd probably get a few extra FPS (if that's all you look at) with the i5 8400
-> Anything higher than 1080p (eg. 1440p 144hz+), Intel and AMD CPUs are pretty much equal (i5 8400 vs R5 2600/x)
-> For rendering, I was getting 35% faster speeds rendering on the 2600x
I wish the epyc's would come down in price got my eye on a 24c paired with MZ31-AR0
wait for next gen threadripper with 32 cores, cheaper than epyc for sure
If you've fully read up about them, then no need to read this.
I almost went wiwth an EPYC until I did some research.
They're essentially 2 Ryzen 7's glued together. Each of the 2 CPUs can access only half your RAM (ie, your 16GB becomes 2 CPUs with 8GB of RAM) and in a lot of cases, you need to assign your processes to specific cores, as you get weired latency (in games, you'd see stuttering) when you run apps which aren't designed for multiples PROCESSORS (not cores).
I need the ram plan and simple. Its to replace an aging DL380 G7 which I run for my lab. No gaming at all. I actually need about 256GB min.
Some of you may read and think that 256GB of ram is allot, in my line of work its not that much at all.
Not sure if thread ripper can handle that much ram?
Ryzen is limited to 64gb
Only just got a 1500 last year and now this…. I wonder if it's worth the upgrade…
I noticed a difference upgrading from a 1600x to a 2700x
The R7 2700 is only $1 more at Umart if you don't want to wait for shipping and live within driving distance of one, otherwise this is not bad
Just for reference so people are informed:
Ryzen 5 1600
* $199.20 in this post
* $199 at Umart
Ryzen 5 2600
* $236 in this post
* $239 at PCCaseGear
Ryzen 7 1700
* $278.40 in this post
* $319 at Umart
Ryzen 7 2700
* $388 in this post
* $389 at PCCaseGear
* $389 at Umart
* $389 at PLE
So that's an excellent price on the Ryzen 7 1700 (and an excellent CPU - my daily at 3.8 GHz/1.275V). The rest of them you might be better served picking up locally if that's an option and saving on shipping costs, otherwise decent prices all around.
Under $200 for a six-core, twelve-thread CPU, and under $300 for an eight-core, sixteen-thread CPU is bonkers cheap compared to where we were 18 months ago.
wow, these are insnane prices! Any idea how long this deal will last. Pay day is 7 days away :O :O.
200 aud for a hexacore with better IPC than my haswell intel. I would definitely jump if I have the money right now.
Pretty good deals but thought to add some issues that have been talked about the last few months:
https://amdflaws.com/
Best to be informed.
Yeah, the CTO of that company was on the board of an investment firm which was shorting AMD stock.
This was a coordinated PR stunt. Even Linus Torvalds (the creator of Linux) shamed this company and said "guess what, if you have physical access to a computer, you can do bad things" or words to that effect.
AMD were actually a lot less vulnerable to the spectre exploits plaguing Intel lol.
Yes they did mention on their website that they may have a financial interest but it doesn't stop the fact that AMD themselves acknowledged the exploits are legitimate. Financial gain for the way they announced it? Yes. The way of disclosure which Linus talks about doesn't detract from its legitimacy.
https://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/3028437/amd-ryzen-… The article that does the name and shame from linus
geez that ryzen 5 2600 and a cheap B350 board would be the base of a brilliant general-purpose PC!