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Belkin Surge Protectors w. Battery Back-Up from $59.95! COTD

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Belkin Surge Protectors w. Battery Back-Up from $59.95! COTD
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tycoon123 on 27/01/2011 - 12:13 catchoftheday.com.au (2370 clicks)

Belkin Surge Protectors with Battery Back-Up

Don’t pay up to $249.95 – today from just $59.95!

Never lose your unsaved work in the event of a power surge

2 models to choose from. Make your selection at checkout!

  • Option A: Belkin Surge Protector with Battery Backup - 400VA RRP $179.95 – today just $59.95!
  • Option B: Belkin Surge Protector with Battery Backup - 600VA RRP $249.95 – today just $79.95!

A real bargain for those seeking a back up UPS. I am using the Belkin 600VA model for over a year now and it's been working great. The unit come with full power monitoring software which shows the current battery limit and has a log of when and how long your power point has been tripped. It gives you enough time to keep your computer alive while you run to check/reset the 'mains' circuit breaker

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  • diddy50 on 27/01/2011 - 12:24

    "It gives you enough time to keep your computer alive while you run to check/reset the ‘mains’ circuit breaker"

    roughly how long is enough time?
    5 minutes back up or 30secs?

    • tycoon123 on 27/01/2011 - 12:32

      About 5 minutes? We're in a shopping complex so it is a fair walk to the circuit board. I'm running 2 PCs from it and it's been good (so far).

  • greenie4242 on 27/01/2011 - 12:30

    I wouldn't trust anything with the word 'Belkin' on it. After working in a store for a few years that sold expensive Belkin garbage, almost everything with the B logo came back for a refund or broke well before warranty. I'd trust stuff purchased from the Reject Shop more than I'd trust this.

    Belkin market so many different types of product, but it's quite obvious they don't actually MAKE anything. Laptop bags, routers, surge protectors, iPod transmitters, Ethernet over Mains Power transmitters, all made my another company and sold by Belkin, but not made to any decent standards.

    • neosin on 27/01/2011 - 12:45
      +4

      I don't know what you're on about dude, I've heard nothing but good about belkin surge protectors.

      • greenie4242 on 27/01/2011 - 13:04
        +2

        Their surge protectors may be their saving grace, because they were manufactured by a good company but then rebranded to Belkin. But a lot of their other stuff isn't so good.

        Some of their website reviews for years were fake as well:
        http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-10145399-92.html

        http://www.smarthouse.com.au/Home_Office/L2F3Q2T4

        I guess they can be compared to Kogan - they only sell stuff manufactured by other people, and if they can get it cheaper next month they change manufacturers.

        • tycoon123 on 27/01/2011 - 13:10
          +2

          Doesn't matter how many "fake" comments exist out there.

          I'm just speaking from my experience with this product and it has been good. Although I have not used any other UPS of the same sort, but if I ever need to get more I'll opt for Belkin. For this price I don't think anyone really has anything to complain about.

          Cheapest on eBay is $103 , EXCLUDING shipping.

        • stewy on 28/01/2011 - 08:44

          Well as pointed out below you can get an Eaton for the same price or less. Eaton Powerware are reknown for making quality UPSs, Belkin is renown for selling over-priced power boards. Not exactly a tough choice even before you factor in the crap delivery times COTD have.

    • edman on 27/01/2011 - 12:48

      I've had one in my offices now for about 15 months and have had no problems whatsoever. Had half a dozen power outages in that time and it did its job each time.

      • tycoon123 on 27/01/2011 - 12:48

        Can't agree more.

    • diddy50 on 27/01/2011 - 12:56
      +1

      "broke well before warranty."

      Ummm most Belkin stuff have a lifetime warranty don't they??

      • Twisty on 27/01/2011 - 13:04
        +1

        These ones dont as they run a Battery Backup systems using a Battery so the Battery cant last forever. Otherwise they would have Lifetime like the rest.

    • Twisty on 27/01/2011 - 13:01
      -1

      I have loads of Belkin Surge Protectors in my house and they have been great! One broke and they replaced it under Lifetime warranty without and questions etc I personally would not recommend another surge protector then Belkin. Fantastic customer support without the waiting line.

      Even tho these ones have 3 year warranty I would still get one if I needed one.

  • skysky on 27/01/2011 - 12:33

    Cheap.. but how much is shipping?

  • tycoon123 on 27/01/2011 - 12:34
    +2

    $7.95 shipping

  • Pobman on 27/01/2011 - 12:58
    +2

    Got one of these a couple of weeks ago when COTD did them before… Still waiting on delivery though… They really do have the worst delivery chain in the industry.

    • tycoon123 on 27/01/2011 - 13:02
      +1

      I'm in Perth, WA. I have made about 54 orders from COTD for over 100 products. Have no major drama with COTD apart from their silly "1 deal/ hr" schemes which sparked a lot of issues in the past.

      I'm guessing some of the products they are looking to order the exact amt people want to buy, hence the longer waiting period for consumers? It's only a guess.

    • warcom on 27/01/2011 - 13:03
      +1

      Have you emailed them to follow up your order? I had a good response when I contacted them before.

  • twisti on 27/01/2011 - 13:00

    How long could this power a PC running a 650W power supply? Is it even going to run it at all?

    • tycoon123 on 27/01/2011 - 13:15

      Kept my PC and monitor running for at least 5 minute, from experience.

    • c64 on 28/01/2011 - 08:52

      the ups is a bit on the small side. your pc will probably draw around 200-250w idle. i wouldn't even bother running a monitor off the ups.

  • singlefished on 27/01/2011 - 13:36
    +1

    How long would one of these keep a small LED reading lamp running for?

    • tycoon123 on 27/01/2011 - 13:43

      For a super long time, maybe up to a few hours. LED power consumption is very little, typical value of 20mA, in contrast to a standard PC power rating of 2A. (100 times lesser)

      So, if it can run 5 minutes on PC, it can last about 500 min when used to power LED lamp.

      If we allow 40% range for accuracy, it will last at least 300minutes, which is average of 5 hrs.

      My maths could be wrong, but I think it should give you a fair idea.

      • kimmik on 27/01/2011 - 20:12
        +4

        thats a VERY misinformed post sorry.

        1. time of operation is determined by Energy storage Wh, not mA (current)
        2. LED 20mA you're thinking of those little low powered ones. and thats 20mA at 2-4V, not 240V
        3. the time of operation when using a lower powered appliance is more determined by the inverter standby consumption - probably about 10W. so if the running time even with nothing plugged in, will be say 3hrs? i dont know. you got to a reasonable guess from a really wrong calculation lol.
        • tycoon123 on 28/01/2011 - 10:48

          lol. thanks.

    • llama on 27/01/2011 - 13:45

      What I wrote before was wrong (so I just deleted it) - there is very limited info on how many VA/hours (Watt/hours) of power it stores.

      The 400VA rating means it can handle a connect load of 400VA (400W if power factor is 100%, but some computers are only 0.6 Power Factor and thus this thing would only handle 240 Watts.

      The specs on the site are really sketchy

  • wiz187 on 27/01/2011 - 13:40
    +2

    Saw this, was bout to buy 1. Had surge 2 weeks ago in my house, lost my ethernet port on m/board and the Belkin board I have been using for at least 5 years was shorting out the circuit breaker as result. Phoned Belkin just now, after reading " lifetime warranty ". Sending me NEW BOARD - (no questions) and paperwork for a claim for out of pocket expenses… Was on the phone for about 5 minutes - very impressed.
    Microsoft PLEASE take note…. I have the RROD again! I know which after sales experience I prefer.
    Good price for this unit, imo.

  • Scratch2k on 27/01/2011 - 14:36

    In support of Belkin, I purchased two of their expensive remote shut-off power board about 12 months ago, they both worked fine for a while but after about 6 months one of them started behaving erratically. After a short email exchange with their warranty people they notified me that they did not have stock of the exact model in at the time and would be sending me a similar unit to keep me operating until the proper replacement arrived. They also said I could keep the old board (it still worked as a power board/surge protect but the remote no longer functioned), no questions asked.

    I really couldn't ask for better service than that. A manufacturer isn't all about the products they sell but also about the after sales support they offer, Belkin delivers on both as far as I'm concerned.

  • shopaholic32 on 27/01/2011 - 15:11
    +1

    I concur that customer service from Belkin is unparallel from my experience.
    Had one of their surge protectors a few years ago that stopped a major power surge and it was charcoal dead….thank god for it as it did saved all my TV, Blueray etc that would easily cost me $5K or more to replace!
    It had a lifetime warranty so I rang them and they replaced it no dramas at all in a few days via courier, I am pretty sure the others would make you jump over hoops to just even get a replacement.
    It is probably fair to say they don't make the best electronics in most cases but for surge protectors but I will vote with my feet up on the surge protectors. For the record I have nothing to do with Belkin personally.

  • greenie4242 on 27/01/2011 - 16:23

    Sounds like I was wrong about Belkin surge protectors - all the positive vibes I'm getting from people are making me consider buying one myself! I still wouldn't touch their FM transmitters or ethernet-to-power devices, but for $60 this uninterruptable power supply sounds like a good deal. It would be difficult to buy just the batteries for that cost, decent SLA batteries can cost $40-$50 alone, not to mention postage. I have an old SOLA UPS with dead batteries, it will cost about $40 to replace the batteries but won't have a 3 year warranty attached.

    Thanks OzBargain users! The forum serves its purpose well.

    • theguru1 on 27/01/2011 - 16:29
      +1

      "decent SLA batteries can cost $40-$50 alone,"

      Hopefully these also have decent batteries as these can vary considerably.

  • theguru1 on 27/01/2011 - 16:32
    +1

    After all the discussion regarding lifetime warranty, this producr has a 3 year warranty.
    Edited later: OK. missed the comment earlier.

  • cmdwedge on 27/01/2011 - 16:38

    Here is the product page - http://www.belkin.com/au/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id…

  • theguru1 on 27/01/2011 - 16:56

    Any that has this UPS
    have problems loading the software under windows 7?

    • tycoon123 on 27/01/2011 - 17:11

      Mine works fine with Windows 7

  • Easy Money on 27/01/2011 - 17:03

    Just picked one up. Should go well with the htpc setup im planning next month. Thanks op

  • Trance N Dance on 27/01/2011 - 18:44

    Mmmmm thinking of getting one of these for a Dell 27" and a PC that would draw 400W under load and about 150W idle. Which one should I get, the 400VA or 600VA?

    • tycoon123 on 27/01/2011 - 18:56

      Would suggest the 600VA. The longer it can back up the better.

    • lazed on 27/01/2011 - 20:03
      +1

      The belkin site lists it as 600VA / 300w so not sure if it would be suitable ?

      • kimmik on 27/01/2011 - 21:56

        the 400VA one is almost definitely inadequate.

        the 600VA one is probably enough, since you're not using the graphic card when shutting down. and could also turn off monitor.

  • stumo on 27/01/2011 - 21:38

    If my calculations are correct…

    The belkin page lists the 600VA model as having a 12V/5Ah battery.

    So that means it can theoretically supply 12V at 5Amps for 1 hour. So considering it needs to be run through an inverter we would need to derate that for the losses in converting to AC.

    So 12V * 5Ah = 60Wh
    derated to 80% efficiency…
    60Wh *0.80 = 48Wh

    That means it could supply a 48Watt load for 1 hour. This is probably the best case scenario.

    So a 200W PC would die in about 14 minutes by my loose (and possibly wrong) calculations.

    • lazed on 27/01/2011 - 21:44
      +1

      It's not as simple as multiplying voltage by amp-hours. When the load increases on the battery the capacity is reduced.

    • kimmik on 27/01/2011 - 21:48
      +2

      12V 5Ah is NOT 5A at 1Hr for SLA batteries. NiMH batteries, yes, but not sla.

      its 500mA for 10Hrs.

      At 5A, the capacity is about 50-60%

      at 25A, the capacity is about 20%. furthermore the voltage drop due to internal resistance and charge depletion complicates matters significantly.

      So if you have a 250W draw, the run time will be about 3MIN at my best estimate - i have plenty of experience with batteries including SLA.

      a high power PC + big monitor probably draws around this at idle. So my advice is to hibernate or shutdown immediately if running on battery power. no fkg around

      • stumo on 27/01/2011 - 22:38

        yep thats all well and good, but where does it say its got an SLA battery?

        And it says on belkins page…

        Battery Load Capacity: 600VA (300W)

    • Kranbone on 28/01/2011 - 08:50

      How long would it take for an internet modem/router to power off on a UPS like this. I'm considering hooking up a modem/router so my connection is always on. We have notebooks here for work, hence why I'm considering the investment in a UPS.

      • kimmik on 28/01/2011 - 08:55

        suppose 10W for a typical router, 10W for idle consumption, 40Wh effective capacity for the 600va, and 30Wh effective for 400va

        then between 1.5-2.5hrs

        • Kranbone on 29/01/2011 - 12:30

          Thanks for the answer. In your opinion do you think this is a viable solution for a modem/router and possibly a printer. My concern is the enormous draw a printer uses while printing.

  • Kuric on 27/01/2011 - 22:01

    Just like any off-the-shelf UPS at this price.
    Don't know if Belkin has it, but at these prices you can get one with Line-Interaction.

    http://www.staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=ups+400va&s…

    • TCM on 27/01/2011 - 23:01
      -1

      That's not a valid neg when you're comparing across different brands. It's a bargain because it's a quality product coming from a good brand and most importantly you can't get it cheaper anywhere else.

      • stewy on 28/01/2011 - 08:40
        +1

        Do you even know who Eaton are?? They are a massive manufacturer of UPS systems which are heavily used in industry (albeit inudstry tends to use True Online models). I would put my money on an Eaton Powerware UPS before a Belkin any day. Also as said the Eatons are line interactive so they will provide some degree of power conditioning, the Belkin makes no mention so I doubt it does.

        Not to mention you could be waiting atleast a month for COTD to actually ship your UPS out to you….

      • c64 on 28/01/2011 - 08:44
        -1

        i wouldn't call belkin a good brand. there are much better ups available to choose from. personally i would spend a tiny bit more and get a slightly bigger ups. 400va is not going to last long.

        • berry580 on 28/01/2011 - 12:28

          in case you don't know, EVA rating doesn't show how much the battery can last for at a given load, but its loading size i.e. HOW MUCH load it can take at any given time.

          cheers dude.

        • c64 on 28/01/2011 - 12:35

          EVA rating doesn’t show how much the battery can last for at a given load, but its loading size

          true, thank you for correcting me, but i still think people are better off with a bigger ups.

  • MrGareth on 28/01/2011 - 10:48

    Ummmmm do these come with software and a connection to the UPS that can automatically shut down the PC after X amounts of minutes when running on battery?

    i.e. when the power goes out and you're not at home but the computer was left on….

    • slix_88 on 28/01/2011 - 23:38

      Pretty sure they do. It's stated on the belkin page that it has USB plug and play. Also, what point is there to a UPS without any communication to the computer to notify it of it's status?

      • lazed on 30/01/2011 - 15:11

        To supply uninterrupted power to connected devices

  • stumo on 03/02/2011 - 16:08
    +3

    Got mine today, the 400VA model.

    It says in the handbook the 400VA model will power a 100W load for 11 minutes.
    The 600VA model powers the same load for 15 minutes.

    I don't know why they didn't put that info on the website specs.

    I looked at the battery and it's SLA 12V/4.5Ah/20h.

    I'm quite happy with it for the price, considering the great reports about Belkin warranty etc.

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