I am choosing Android based on I get better bang for buck, get bigger storage (microSD), and have access to its internal storage (like Windows).
Perhaps my primary reason of the above is Price. I can't afford Apple pricing.
What is your primary reason?
Edit: interesting result. I thought the highest vote would be on Price or Value.
That is definitely why I choose Android.
Also news that Apple actually intentionally increased the profit margin simply because they expect less sales. Meaning I get even less bang for buck.
Supposedly Apple's latest release is cheaper than Android's (ozbargain's price), I would perhaps consider switching.
Interesting
As the quality of low end androids increases, Apple will lose more market share from price conscious consumers.
Being the innovative marketing company that they are, they predicted this, and raised their prices in advance to capture more $$ from the remaining customers.
Apple hold better resell value tho.
not anymore, you lose almost $800 bucks in value
@sajidmib: Unless you buy it used.
I've never bought a brand new iPhone.
Plus they are so easy to fix (screen, buttons, etc.).
@ozoner: But since it's an iPhone there is always guides and parts available to fix it. Although it's certainly getting hard to repair phones in general.
@ozoner: Not a joke, at all.
I reckon that changing, let's say, a display/screen on any iPhone is way easier and cheaper (like 3 times cheaper) that fix it on an equivalent android.
@ozoner: iPhones are way easier to repair than the majority of Android phones I've worked on, I've repaired hundreds of iPhones. Parts is also a factor, aftermarket iPhone parts are generally cheaper than other brands, most likely due to the volume of them made/sold.
You don't have to use the latest ones. The 6S is a great phone and only like $400
But if you don't have the latest and greatest, and shiniest…. Why even bother getting Apple?
correction: why bother having the latest Apple phone if you're not going to show it off to all and sundry, and post about them on social media at every given moment?
@Quantumcat: It sounds like you're just used to iOS and not Android. Which is fine, but it's not an inherent drawback of either. Someone moving from Android to iOS would have the same headaches, if not more because there's a lot of settings iOS just doesn't let the user control.
Don't mistake a subjective personal experience for an objective fact.
@bozbargain: I've gone from Android to iOS and back to Android, spending about 4yrs on each. To say that iOS is more intuitive for most people is just ridiculous fanboying. Quantumcat is being negged for pretending her subjective experience of effectively not getting used to Android within a few days says anything useful about either platform.
Literally:
I tried an Android phone once
To say that iOS is more intuitive for most people is just ridiculous fanboying.
I don’t get why calling people silly names is getting you so many upvotes. Shows again that this place is getting a bit toxic. Apple spends a lot more time on owning and optimising the UI and UX of its interfaces than any other software company. By locking down certain options and the way they handle their ecosystem, they create simple software which is easy to use for everyone, from kids to grandparents. To deny that there’s a difference in usability (focusing on the intuitivity aspect) between Android with all its versions and overlays/customisations and iOS is a bit odd to say the least.
@bozbargain: Tell me the process for taking a screenshot on iOS and if you can explain why that's any more 'intuitive' than on Android I might consider your point.
But I called it fanboying because the original commenter had used iOS for years and then complained about not being used to Android after a few uses.
And your argument literally is a lot of unsupported assertions followed by the assertion that iOS is just better. It might be - but you haven't shown at all that it is or how.
@HighAndDry: That’s a bit of a straw man. Where did I say that iOS is better than Android? Denying that iOS is more intuitive for most people is like denying that more people find driving an automatic easier compared to a manual. At no point did I call Android inferior. In fact, I get it why some people prefer the openness of Android.
Where did I say that iOS is better than Android?
Right here, I'm pretty sure:
they create simple software which is easy to use for everyone, from kids to grandparents. To deny that there’s a difference in usability (focusing on the intuitivity aspect) between Android with all its versions and overlays/customisations and iOS is a bit odd to say the least.
More intuitive = better. There is no world in which less intuitive is better.
Oh but you repeated yourself here:
Denying that iOS is more intuitive for most people is like denying that more people find driving an automatic easier compared to a manual.
Automatic is easier than manual because you don't need to learn to use the clutch, or manually select gears. That's why Autos are easier to drive.
You've said nothing about why you think iOS is more intuitive than Android at all, other than maybe:
Apple spends a lot more time on owning and optimising the UI and UX of its interfaces
Which isn't a reason at all - Nokia has probably spent more cumulative time on its OS than Apple. Locking down features is not necessarily any more intuitive. So again, you've just made bare assertions and not much more than that.
More intuitive = better. There is no world in which less intuitive is better.
So you find autos better than manuals, not just “easier to drive”? Tying shoe laces is not intuitive, does that mean that velcro shoes are better (=superior)? I’ve just tried to show you why people may prefer iOS over Android, you try and turn it into a discussion of which OS is better. The advantage of offering something which works well based on intuition is that the learning curve is not that steep - the human brain is capable of mastering many tasks that are not intuitive (the shoe laces example), that doesn’t mean everyone is up for that challenge when it comes to a computing device. There’s a market for both Android and iOS, just look at the sales figures and market shares, it’s not a simple matter of ‘better’ or ‘worse’.
So you find autos better than manuals, not just “easier to drive”?
In terms of ease, gear shift times, etc, definitely. I drive manual mostly for nostalgia and because I like the control. I'm certainly not going to say that manuals are inherently better.
The XR is $1,200, and it is the latest and greatest. The XS is $1,600. People really like exaggerating Apple prices.
@TimApple: XR vs 2017 X:
Pros
- newer processor
- eSim support (unfortunately can't be used on an AU carrier atm)
- 0.3inch larger screen
- bigger battery
Cons
- Smaller battery
- lower quality screen (LCD and lower pixel density)
- single vs two camera setup at the back
- bigger and (~10%) heavier
I do not believe the XR is cheaper either since it compares the price of the X when it was the flagship rather than the price for a 1yr old release. I personally think you're paying the same for what I value as an inferior product. I think it was a smart marketing decision to pull the X from sale
@Dbuiz: Wait a second, why are we comparing it with 2017 X? iPhone X starts at $1,549 last year, that's the one I'm using. The XR starts at $1,229. It's $300 cheaper, while AUD weakens against USD in the past year.
I was comparing it with the XS Max, that people always quote are "over $2,300". My point was that's not the only choice Apple gives. It's like saying Toyota sells cars that's above $50,000 when they have cheaper Yaris for less than $20,000. And in this case Apple's "Yaris" is actually very comparable to the "Corolla".
Where did you see it for $400, is it refurbished? Have only seen it at officeworks for $647….
please post link
@Quantumcat: Ok so its international stock and most likely refurb according to comments with worse battery life.
Hopefully yours works fine.
@sagrules: Mine was fine. Been using it every day and haven't had any problems yet.
However they're easy enough to find second hand at this price, plus there's the cheap battery replacement available from Apple until the end of the year.
quantumcat haven't you heard apple upgrade their phone to obsolescene. so 6s maybe junk soon. android do it too but you pay less for a junk.
No they don't - they purposefully programmed their newest iOS to work better with the iPhone 6. I challenge you to find an android phone as old as the iPhone 6 that works as well. Don't just believe the propaganda you hear, actually try it for yourself. At least I actually used an android phone myself for six months before coming to my conclusions.
@Quantumcat: I highly doubt they purposefully programmed their new ios to work better with the iphone 6. Yes they made it better but what choice do they have. Its known fact that they throttled iphones before and I dont beleive for a second that company that gets rid of headphone jack, dongole will try to make your old iphone better. The phones like HTC One M8, Note 4, Nexus 6, Moto X that were released in early 2014 are way better than iphone 6s, forget about iphone 6.
@eastwood27: Yes they did do it on purpose, they want to keep goodwill in places like India where most people are running older phones. If their phones start to suck they may move to Android. Do you really think they added some features and it was a massive coincidence that older phones ran faster?
@eastwood27: Yes they did do it on purpose, they want to keep goodwill in places like India where most people are running older phones. If their phones start to suck they may move to Android. Do you really think they added some features and it was a massive coincidence that older phones ran faster?
Haha, Apple got caught out for throttling older phones on purpose in an attempt to force consumer upgrades! There's no "goodwill" here, it's just them trying to reverse the negative publicity it generated.
@Quantumcat: I have both a personal Android phone and an iPhone for work; and have had completely the opposite experience to you.
I much prefer the Android phone over the iPhone, and contrary to popular belief, the UI/UX is not "better" or "more intuitive".
I think it's time to stop being so authoritative with your subjectivity…
@Singu1arity: How can android phones be more intuitive, when each one has a slightly different OS?
That would be suggesting that people's instincts change depending what phone they're holding. That's very smart of them!
(ie no, it isn't possible for Android phones to be more intuitive).
It's fair if you place more importance on customisability/SD cards etc than ease of use, so android phones are better for you. But you can't claim things that are patently untrue, to make your argument for you.
@Quantumcat: You said it yourself slightly different. Most things that the average user needs to use are in the same place and work the same way, so whatever point you were trying to make here is moot.
I also didn't say anything about Android being more intuitive, you somehow came to that conclusion yourself… Each OS has its own Pros and Cons, but to claim that either is more intuitive than the other is ridiculous. All you are doing is quoting Apple's own marketing campaigns claiming that iOS is "more intuitive" or "easy to use". It is not, it's just different.
UI/UX is not "better" or "more intuitive".
I also didn't say anything about Android being more intuitive
So…. They are exactly the same amount of intuitive? If iOS is not more intuitive them Android and Android is not more intuitive than iOS then I guess they have to be equal?
Intuitive means the functions will be where you expect them to be. If android phones all have slightly different OSs that means they can't be intuitive, since maybe on some phones the functions will be where people expect them, and on others they aren't.
You have a hard time seeing this as you are used to Android OSs, you've forgotten what it is like to not know. There's no shame in that, I get that sometimes when maths tutoring, I forget what it is like for someone for whom a concept isn't just obvious and I struggle to explain it as it just feels natural and obvious to me. And I see people try to teach programming concepts, when they've forgotten what it is like to not know it, so they fail to phrase it in a way that someone from that perspective can put it together in their heads
@Karfaffel: I hardly see how pointing out that neither OS is more or less intuitive than the other is being subjectively authoritative… As I said, claiming that one or the other is is ridiculous.
@Quantumcat I've already told you, they're just different. The "intuitiveness" of a UI is entirely subjective and dependant on previous experiences. For a UI to be "intuitive" it just means that once you start to use it, figuring out how to do other things makes sense (ie, turning Wi-Fi off/on is where you would expect it to be).
As I said, we've had opposite experiences, you trying to use Android after having an iPhone and it not making sense, me using an iPhone after using (multiple) Android phones and it not making sense. You pretty much just reasoned this out yourself with your response but are still insisting that only iOS could be more intuitive and that I'm the one having a hard time seeing it as I've forgotten what it's like…
Hmmm…
The 6S usually sells for @ $617-649, and the 6 is $399? Source (Officeworks)[https://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/SearchDisplay?searchTerm=apple+iphone+6&storeId=10151&langId=-1&pageSize=24&beginIndex=0&sType=SimpleSearch&resultCatEntryType=2&showResultsPage=true&searchSource=Q&pageView=]
for $400 could get a decent android ;)
$2369 actually :)
That is a big one, but I would also add choices and far better range of features combined with customisation. The only negative on the Android side is the shitty inconsistent interface.
That's only an issue if you swap phones every few months. Most people keep their phones for a few years until they break it or the battery dies.
You’re not forced to buy the most expensive one.
phunkydude says it all without saying a single word - well done sir!
Note X will be valued at $2500 making iPhone cheaper. Thanks to iPhone now Samsung has a reason to sell more expensive. Thanks to iPhone now Samsung got idea for naming X
Flexibility/customisability.
this needs to be an option in the poll OP!
I love how android people bring this up when 90% of iPhone users never change their ringtone or background wallpaper.
That's why they have iPhones mate…
Most people who buy android don't care for that either.
Ease of setting up other things like Fdroid to set up a new app store for open source apps.
Also don't have to touch iTunes, which is one of the worst bits of software I've ever used.
Choose a music player, choose a browser if you want!
Android isn't totally open, but it is vastly more open than iOS. Get stuffed off with Samsung, switch to someone else. Go Nokia, Motorola or whoever.
The other thing is that most phones are fantastic now. For a few hundred dollars on Android you can get an amazing phone that you can put a 200GB microSD card if you want.
These days Android works well. It's just as intuitive as iOS, both have their quirks, but Android is really fine.
Also, I'm not an Apple hater. This is being typed in a Mac and there is an Apple TV being watched.
when I needed a tablet recently, I was eyeing the iPad Pro 10"
very nice screen, can get a bundle deal with Optus
but iOS doesn't support bluetooth mouse so I can't connect my mouse to it to work more efficiently, or play games with mice rather than touch.
therefore, bye bye Apple
I didn't know that. What game are you playing with mice?
Tales of Illyria, or Candy Crush when I cast my phone to a big screen :)
FPS/3rd person shooters probably work better with mouse and touch support used together too
Apple's strong point have always been its very nice UI/UX, still envy it today
lots more 'free apps' giveaways on Android too it seems
the GPS on my Note 3 from Kogan loses GPS signal frequently, borrowed a workmate's old iPhone and GPS worked flawless - even tho I need to rotate the screen to portrait/landscape just to see the menu button to actually set destination and start navigating the streets.
iPhone do have better build quality and longer lasting (maybe).
When I bought Note 7 (which were then recalled), the phone was slightly dusty and opened.
@imurgod: Yeah, their quality control is ON FIRE!!!
(Ok, dated joke, not really relevant now, etc, etc)
I use the mouse in Excel, in conjuntion with the DEX Stand.
My phone the Huawei P9 is comparable to the iPhone 7 plus. The price is important but the price difference wasn't really that much.
The tech specs were similar.
I do use the SD card but it's not important. I backup to the internet much more often.
I just prefer the Android operating system.
i just picked up one of these for $150 at a used store. they thought the camera was busted so the price was low. haha suckers it works great.
havent migrated from iphone se yet though. i like the small size, very secure to hold while riding a bike.
Choices. Price, colours, features Android platform has it.
yes, many choices from diff companies, all the way from a few hundred $ to $$$$
Micro sd card
Wireless charging since s6
I don't "love" the Google os. However it works and doesn't lock me in too much
Also sd card, dual Sim, and I don't have to buy the entire ecosystem too.
I am annoyed they crippled/removed Miracast so they'd sell more chrome sticks. They can put their chrome sticks elsewhere.
I prefer to complexity and customisation it offers
But again Apple these days are adding more and more features each upgrade
Soon a new brand will come out with "this is simple, this is all you need, this is innovation." A new Apple will happen again…
The notch.
headphone jack
.
Don't think you'll have that choice with Android for much longer either.
so no radio then?
It is a good thing I'm pretty satisfied with low-end phones.
I recently moved to the Samsung Galaxy Note 9 after using iPhones for 8 years. I moved because of the great deal on OzB, but was getting more and more disgruntled with each new iPhone release after the iPhone 6. The justification for the premium price started to wear thin once I felt they started to force consumers into their way of thinking, rather than inviting/enticing us with logical and impressive innovation. The gap in build quality and design is imo pretty much non-existent. Android has always had more features but what was lacking (from an outsiders perspective over the last 8 years) was the cohesiveness of software and hardware working together, but now the gap has closed significantly. Add on that all the additional features offered on Android, and considering the price difference, it's a no brainer to use Android now.
XDA forum support and custom roms.
Phones are highly disposable. The lifespan is about 2 years. I'll spend $200 every 2-3 years.
Apple marketing doesnt appeal to common sense, it appeals to your ability to spend money and subscribe to their conditions
I feel ya. As someone who drops their phone all the time…
Drop budget Android: fine, I'll just get a new one at the end of the year, or when this one breaks, or whenever.
Drop iPhone: OMG I'm ruined!
financially ruined and irresponsible.
Wife's friend got locked out of her iphone. She took it to the shop (Docomo) and they told her theres nothing they can do.
Got locked out, or forgot her passcode?
why wouldnt you take it to apple lmao
@Jaso n: took 2-3 days to be able to access again, and yes she had to take it to an apple store, which wasnt very convenient. locked out of capable and simple service.
She put in the correct password but it didnt work and locked her out
The primary reason for me is the lack of decent hardware made the iPhone counter productive, and a liability. I would have Whatsapp, Spotify and a few other apps and it would freeze constantly, thinking it was a hardware issue had it replaced by Apple, and three phones in I came to the conclusion it's a piece of sh@$t. Switched to the S9, and have never once looked back.
Never heard of anyone complaining about apps freezing like that especially on multiple ones belonging to a single user…
Name doesn't check out…
Moved from Apple to Samsung S8 - Better value to money and ability to customise. Not really bothered about face recog or other sexy features.
$2,359