Ebay Listing Fee Now Free permanent for auctions starting at $0.99

rewstar on 05/04/2011 - 10:25
Last edited 05/04/2011 - 11:23 by 1 other user

Just Got this email, seems like a good deal

Dear …..,

We have great news! Now you can sell your items on eBay.com.au and only pay when you sell. Our much loved price promotion of FREE insertion fees for 99c auctions is now permanent!

Here's why you should start listing your items at 99c or below:

It's FREE to list - up to 15 items per month**
Only pay one easy final value fee - 7.9% capped at a maximum of $49.95 and you only pay if the item sells
FREE gallery image - save 59c
Cheaper Value Pack fees - save 50c
So, what are you waiting for? Start listing your items at 99c or below and use the money you make to buy something you really want.

Mod: This was posted as a deal of which it was a duplicate. Some interesting discussion here, moved to General Discussion Forum

General Discussion

Comments

  • photonbuddy on 05/04/2011 - 10:29
    +7

    So you save 30c on a listing fee, but they jack the final evaluation fee up!

    Did you really think E-Bay would do anything that would cost them money?

    The only people who would benefit from this change are those that sell things very cheap.

    Definitely not a bargain in my book.

    • quickling on 05/04/2011 - 10:30
      +2

      yeah.

      It sucks. I rather pay the insertion fee. I see they cleverly leave you no option to revert to the previous system.

      • hoiboy on 05/04/2011 - 11:06

        You revert back to the old system if you list more than 15 items a month.

  • BenMHarvey on 05/04/2011 - 10:32
    +2

    The final evaluation fee's went up you should read up on this before posting it

  • Sage on 05/04/2011 - 10:34

    pssst, what the other guys said.

  • salekhard on 05/04/2011 - 10:35

    So you pretty much pay 10% commission to ebay (paypal + ebay commission) :(

  • Bargain_potato on 05/04/2011 - 10:41
    +2

    sell on gumtree. it's free!!!

    • leonheart1 on 05/04/2011 - 10:51

      Isn't ebay classified better?
      Gumtree restricts you by location.

    • jashjash on 05/04/2011 - 10:59

      yes, no one's forcing you to use eBay!

    • hoiboy on 05/04/2011 - 11:03

      IMO Gumtree is only suitable for selling within your own city, and also only good for things where you have a fair idea of its market value (so e.g. computer games and mobile phones would be fine, not for things like clothing and shoes and other things that are rarely available). So unfortunately, much as I hate this price rise, I'll have to keep using ebay for some things to get maximum value for my items.

      As for the actual price rise - for a $50 item, the old fee used to be 500.0525=$2.625, now it's $500.08=$4. The new freebies are worth 89c to me (insertion fee + gallery images, which most sellers use), so it seems like for cheaper items, casual sellers would come out ahead, whereas for more expensive items, ebay comes out ahead.

      Also, bet a lot of sellers (casual or professional) will start putting shipping fees higher (shipping fees are not subject to the ebay fees) to counter this increase.

      Finally, note that this increase doesn't affect any relatively prolific seller - the pricing structure remains the same for sellers who list over 15 items a month.

      http://pages.ebay.com.au/help/sell/fees.html

  • kar200 on 05/04/2011 - 10:42

    My first neg in my Ozbargain career. I though this is well worth the neg as Ebay+Paypal are just like any other bank.

    I obviously don't like banks.

  • whiteflame on 05/04/2011 - 10:49
    +2

    you guys know that if u list the items at 98c then the item is the with the old system and if u guys list it at 99c then its the new system so i say ebay is doing us good, coz it give us choice and depending on wat items we sell

    • stralya on 05/04/2011 - 10:54

      I'm sure they will plug that loophole pretty quickly.

    • llama on 05/04/2011 - 11:57

      Last time I looked, you cannot list at less than 99c on eBay Australia. This might have changed… not sure and not able to do a listing right now to test

  • Cheeper on 05/04/2011 - 10:49

    Ebays generocity is touching!
    Remove the listing cost (30c?) and raise their comission to 8%!
    They must be joking!

    • jamessyc on 05/04/2011 - 10:50

      exactly…arnt we worse off with this?

  • pennypincha on 05/04/2011 - 10:49
    +2

    Hmmm…. I wonder if eBay sell money printing machines.
    Oh no, that's right…you can't list eBay on eBay.

  • Turd on 05/04/2011 - 10:50
    +2

    http://help.ebay.com.au/Education2/Selling/Fees

    Yea just list it at 0.98cents and get cheaper final value fee!

    • quickling on 05/04/2011 - 11:00

      hmm… that just fixed that I think.

      Certainly the email I got suggests that all insertions at 99c and below will have the new final value fees applied.

      Good to know we can now list at 98c.

      • achw on 05/04/2011 - 11:05

        so if you list at 98 cents, the old final valuation fees apply (ie 5.25% up to $75 etc etc, rather than the flat 7.9%)?

        if you know your item will sell for decent $$, why would you list at 99 cents and be charged the higher valuation fee??

        i hate ebay as a seller, but i do still love it as a buyer… i guess i can't have it all.

      • stonedewok on 05/04/2011 - 11:09

        edit: question removed

    • hoiboy on 05/04/2011 - 11:04

      http://pages.ebay.com.au/help/sell/fees.html

      List over 15 items a month and old structure applies, less than 15 items a month and the new structure applies. Doesn't depend on whether the starting price is 98c or 99c.

  • stralya on 05/04/2011 - 10:53

    Why does eBay always jack up fees, and then try to make it look like it is for the benefit of the customer. Could someone post the actual T&C's - I can't access them at work. I wonder what the fees are after the first 15 listings. I am guessing it will be the listing fee + 7.9% final value fee.

    • hoiboy on 05/04/2011 - 11:04

      No - if you list more than 15 items a month, it reverts to the old structure.

    • mickeyjuiceman on 05/04/2011 - 11:19
      -3

      "Why does eBay always jack up fees, and then try to make it look like it is for the benefit of the customer. "

      Because they're a business - they're hardly alone in this sort of behaviour.

      • King Tightarse on 05/04/2011 - 17:14

        Well yeah their a business… so your saying effectively "because they can"
        That's the problem, there is no healthy competitor to keep the bastards honest.

  • massari on 05/04/2011 - 11:07

    Hate ebay fees. well ebay + paypal..

    NEG

  • Jabba the Hutt on 05/04/2011 - 11:08

    Did a little comparison in the trusty old spreadsheet.

    http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/9919/feecomp.png

    That's based on an item listed once at 99 cents, and excluding payment processing fees. For an item that would need to be relisted several times, the new fee may be preferable to the old one for $20 items, and perhaps $40 and $80 ones depending on the number of relistings.

  • testy8 on 05/04/2011 - 11:10

    Going from http://help.ebay.com.au/Education2/Selling/Fees#fees

    You are worse off in terms of final value fees if you list an item at 99c UNLESS YOU THINK YOUR ITEM IS GOING TO SELL FOR >$2333 (this is where the equivalent FVF reaches $49.95)

    So basically, it's a rort. Unless you want to list your $2300+ item at 99c and risk a lower selling price - in my experience it's bad to start expensive items off at 99c because the bidding increment is only $1 - so the final minutes where people bid off against each other nets you less.

    Fail ebay. Very misleading.

    • testy8 on 05/04/2011 - 11:13

      Actually I'm confused, is this new FVF for all new auctions or just 99c ones? Either way it's a rort, but if it's only applied to 99c auctions at least you can get around it.

  • King Tightarse on 05/04/2011 - 11:11
    +1

    FEEbay are scabs.

    I read in m electronics forum that the guys in the USA now have the SHIPPING COSTS calculated as part of the final value fee.

    Ferk them.

    They used to be good value but ever since they bought Paypal to double dip and now with all the fee-creep, they really annoy me.
    The are a monopoly and monopolies suck.
    Damn I wish Google or someone with the same reach would run some competition.

    • mickeyjuiceman on 05/04/2011 - 11:20
      -2

      "I read in m electronics forum that the guys in the USA now have the SHIPPING COSTS calculated as part of the final value fee."

      You can hardly blame them for finally closing that (widely-exploited) loophole, that's been ridiculous for years.

      • mickeyjuiceman on 05/04/2011 - 18:13
        -1

        Seriously, some people need to get something vaguely resembling a clue. Vendors have been overvaluing shipping - vastly - for years, in order to allow the price of the item being sold to be devalued, and nobody was screaming about a scam then.

        (I've got no love for eBay, but really, some reality wouldn't hurt.)

        • King Tightarse on 05/04/2011 - 19:29

          Yes, I have seen some scammers pull that one, but this revision is throughout the entire Ebay (USA) system.
          They are helping themselves to extra fees from the shipping costs of every sale in addition to the standard fees.
          Can you imagine what that equates to in terms of profit from every single sale (except free shipping) for them?
          If an item is listed internationally, that can be a significant increase.
          People are reaching their threshold with fee-creep.
          Ebay wouldn't dream of such dodgy bollocks if they had any competition.

    • hoiboy on 05/04/2011 - 12:04

      Ebay states clearly (4th paragraph) that shipping fee is not included as part of final value fee.
      http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/questions/what-fees.html

      • llama on 05/04/2011 - 12:43

        Not for long… and it's ALL categories, not just electronics…

        http://pages.ebay.com/sellerinformation/news/feeupdate2011.h…

        July 6—Fixed Price (Store and Standard) and Store Auction-style Final Value Fee rates reduced and applied to the total amount of the sale—including shipping

        NOTE - this refers ONLY to Ebay USA, not Ebay Australia

        • King Tightarse on 05/04/2011 - 17:11

          Thats right, the guys in the states are going apeshit about it. Asking "where's the alternative to Ebay" etc.
          One bloke put up a table showing the fees Circa 2004
          and now (as percentages) and all the new things they have invented for themselves.
          They are charging a final value fee for the shipping, that is just greedy.
          They will make sooooo much more money (for their shareholders)
          Borderline scam IMHO

          I would guess it will come here too, sooner or later.

  • whiteflame on 05/04/2011 - 11:16

    98c and 99c thing isn't a loophole. It is there deliberately. I don't know y you guys are negging this so hard.

  • whiteflame on 05/04/2011 - 11:20

    Ok that is crap. I checked the listing fees page an hr ago and just then… They changed it again. Screw them… I can't neg them now….

  • neil on 05/04/2011 - 11:20

    Duplicate, http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/39757,

    As there is some useful discussion, MOVING TO FORUMS.

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