Coles has the Dettol Antibacterial Disinfectant Wipes (Varieties) 120 Wipes on special for $5 each
We usually buy Kirkland from Costco, but this is a good price for branded wipes, equal to 4.2c per wipe.
During my last Coles shop I gave their Ultra branded ones a go at 100 for $3.50, which works out at 3.5c per wipe. I have to say I've been impressed and found them every bit as good as the brand name ones if anyone wants to save a little extra. https://shop.coles.com.au/a/a-nsw-metro-willowdale/product/c...
Woolies also has a similar budget brand one with 100 for $3.50. The active ingredient was exactly the same as the Dettol branded one (benzalkonium chloride 0.47% w/w), which cost way more. I can't zoom in on the Coles one in your link, but I'm guessing it's probably the same too. :)
Dettol : benzalkonium chloride 0.47% w/w
We only buy the Coles branded ones. Have found them a lot better than any others we’ve tried from Coles/Woolies/Aldi
Contradiction Coles branded one better than itself
Bought from the store, not the store’s brand. We’ve tried dettoll, pine o clean and the aldi branded ones which were probably the worst. I’m sure there’s others we have tried but have found the Coles brand works best and doesn’t dry out as quick as the others
Just wondering what sort of stuff needs wiping up with these antibacterial disinfectant wipes, that standard baby wipes can't deal with?
Are we trying to breed more resistant bacteria?
Prob good for cleaning toilet as the wipes can then just be thrown away, rather than say a micro fibre cloth with bleach that then needs to be washed afterwards, also good for cleaning medical equipment where it’s necessary to get rid of any germs that might cross contaminate.
You can do the same job with disinfectant and bleach but its messier, I think this is more of a convenience factor attraction.
I use baby wipes for most stuff and it’s great, but this, I think is a bit more like a bleach wipe without the burn, though it is an irritant.
At least bleach doesn't cause antibiotic resistance.
Antibiotic resistance is genuinely one of the most terrifying developing trends that I can think of in modern medicine. Scary as hell to think that there are superbugs that cannot be contained easily with antibiotic drugs. Phage therapy might be a possible solution. In my estimation, the widescale use of antibiotics in the agricultural industry, as well as reckless usage to treat non-bacterial infections, like viral infections, is going to become a massive problem in the future. Seeing hideous dermatological infections that don’t respond to antibiotics scares the shit out of me as a future health practitioner.
@Jawanzar: So then why use products like these wipes?
The convenience factor shouldn't be a reason to contribute to one of the most terrifying developing trends in modern medicine.
As a future health practitioner you're in a great place to educate people about the negative effects of the needless overuse of products like these.
@spaceflight: Easier said than done I think. The current practice, as I understand it, is that such wipes edit: probably more likely to be alcohol wipes, are commonly used in clinical settings as time is money, and convenience of having a single use product that is then discarded is very attractive. It’s likely to be alcohol wipes rather than anti bacterial.
Personally, for what it’s worth as a personal testament to your query, I don’t use these at home, I will spray either bleach, or disinfectant and then use either TP or a baby wipe.
I also think that the problem with antibiotic resistance, as represented by the usage of such wipes, as compared with the use of antibiotics in our food and unnecessary prescriptions is not likely to have any real effect on the reduction of antibiotic resistant super bugs. That’s not based on data, that’s just my personal estimation. Even if we remove the wipes, we still have a huge issue that isn’t going away, and if, in a clinical setting, using these wipes reduces cross contamination, where if they weren’t being used, improper or ineffective cleaning would take place, then I think the wipes definitely have their place.
Antibiotic resistance does scare the shit out of me, but I will have a resonsibility to protect myself and my patients, that the wipes would provide.
Edit, FWIW, I think many clinical settings would use some sort of alcohol wipe rather than a specific anti bacterial wipe, but I’d imagine that in the place of an alcohol wipe, where antibacterial wipes might be used, the same argument would likely still apply, that if it’s easier to use the wipe than bleach, then that’s what will be used.
It’s a really good question that you raise though, because as societies have now in many ways abused antibiotics were starting to see the really unpleasant after effects of that.
@Jawanzar: Thanks for the thoughtful reply!
In a clinical settling aren't single use bleach or alcohol wipes used?
I would assume that they work just as well without the potential downside.
Almost like you I now only use bleach or alcohol.
Benzalkonium Chloride (the active ingredient in these) is a common disinfectant which contributes to resistance so I try not to use disinfectant.
There's certainly a lot we can do to help stop resistance. As you said overuse and incorrect use of antibiotics is a big one. But if you look at things like these wipes and other disinfectants that people use on a daily basis it would be hard to imagine that these sort of products couldn't be a major source of resistance.
I would imagine that more people in developed countries use these products than incorrectly use antibiotics.
I agree with you that these wipes can protect people but maybe there are better alternatives. A bleach or alcohol wipe should protect you and patients just as well without the potential resistance issues. (I'm sure there are downsides to then that I'm not thinking of)
For example MRSA is common in hospitals and also resistant to Benzalkonium Chloride. So would using a cleaning chemical that MRSA is resistant to be the best approach for staff and patient health? Bleach and alcohol would both kill MRSA and the don't contribute toward resistance.
Please keep up the good work at keeping us safe and healthy, we'd all be in a bad place if people like you didn't get into the profession! :)
@spaceflight: I think there's a bit confusion, these wipes are antibacterial and not anti-antibiotics.
@Derfred: The active ingredient in these wipes can cause antibiotic and antimicrobial resistance.
Widely used benzalkonium chloride disinfectants can promote antibiotic resistance.
Long-term exposure to benzalkonium chloride disinfectants results in change of microbial community structure and increased antimicrobial resistance.
@spaceflight: Thanks Spaceflight, really appreciate the kind words and thoughts :)
Absolutely nothing gained by using antibacterial anything that can't be achieved by washing your hands with water and soap. I'm amazed they haven't been banned yet. Along with microscopic plastic beads in body washes that fish eat and then we eat. We really are pretty stupid.
Lol I love the honesty in your post
Some have been banned in some items
I don't think Quartz is very reliable. Here they are pumping out intelligence agency propaganda.
If we believe Quartz Russia influenced the US election using dildo ads.
Which is stupid obviously.
Our local schools these days don't even have any form of soap at hand. I questioned school staff about this, my thinking being cold water was not sufficient. I was told it was a safety OH&S issue in case soap products caused falls in toilet blocks. Perhaps this is a factor in why parents are providing their children with wipes to use before eating. We always had soap and water handy at school when I was young.
Supermarket trolley handles.
Sorry for the visual suggestion.
You don't need antibacterial wipes. Bleach or alcohol work without contributing to antimicrobial resistance.
I don't usually (well ever actually) carry bleach or alcohol with me when I visit the supermarket. I doubt whether you would refuse an antibacterial wipe if you'd seen people splutter all over the handles though. It's usually just a case of what's to hand at the time.
@JediJan: Both bleach and alcohol come in wipe options.
For example https://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/p/scott-alco...
If a healthy person sneezes on a trolley handle there's no need for an antibacterial wipe. A paper towel will work.
It makes my skin crawl, to see people think they're cleaning any non-flesh item with a bloomin baby wipe.
You don't need antibacterial wipes to properly clean everyday things
Baby wipes actually are quite perfect for cleaning up playdoh from floor and wall tiles. Playdoh being the most perfect environment for bacteria, but I needn't add that.
If only the Play-Doh manufacturers thought to add something like borax to kill mould and bacteria so that things don't grow in it.
You seem to be scared of bacteria. You need it to live.
Benzalkonium Chloride 0.47% w/w (0.3 w/w at use by date)
Benzalkonium Chloride 0.47% w/w (0.3 w/w at use by date)
As a side note, I've only recently (re)discovered baby wipes for uses outside baby bottoms.
I don't know about the environment and such, but they are so versatile when you always have them. Those tiny lemon-fresh KFC wipes I grew up with don't do wipes justice.
Just to remind everyone Do not flush wipe down toilet as stated on the package, but instead dispose of them in the rubbish.
Wet tissues can take longer to dissolve, creating a clog in your plumbing pipes and drains.
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