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friends don't let friends buy beats.
but people like them so this is being posted.
R T Edwards had a pile of Beats X. $99.
I feel dirty for posting this.
[QLD] Beats X New-Repack $99 @ R T Edwards (Kippa Ring)
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Don’t be acting like you hold some superiority complex by refusing to at least acknowledge beats as a decent brand. They sell very well.
hating on beats and apple is very fashionable for nerdy people alright
Yes, but lots of things of poor quality sell well.
Beats make their fame from having overly loose spiders, so their bass is deep and thumpy.
If you put them over a monitoring mic, they're super innacurate.
In addition, if you try to play music thats unlike music you'd hear "by Dre" , like metal or fast electronica, country, or even things oldschool like synthwave, they become muddy.
The spider just offers the cone zero control.
The honesty behind them, is that they'd be one hell of a brand if slow rap is your only jam, or if they could beat the reproduction of things like koss porta-pros at a similar price point ($35), or even Audio Technica.
But they simply dont.
Expensive, poor sounding (with the exception of one genre), innaccurate, and shows a lack of education in portable audio.
There isn't a whole lot to like. Honestly.
Source; used to sell what could only be called 'extreme' audio for a living. We had $5k pairs of headphones…
Testing gear, along with first hand experience, and countless customer in shop reviews, count for a lot.So you’re an self proclaimed audiofool. Give me any scientific evidence you can to justify “better” sounding headphones. Why the (profanity) do you think the music industry master tracks, so it can (profanity) sound good on any setup.
Any headphone/earphone that does not distort is good enough on the sound front. All humans hear differently so there is no “better” headphones as long as they get loud enough and don’t distort.
All the shit on beats and it’s all subjective Bullcrap spread by idiots with no evidence. Are they overpriced? Yes but there’s heaps of audiofool crap that sells for thousands yet people still buy them.No problem,
what state are you in?I can bring by some beats, and a monitoring mic.
we can play some test tracks through it, back into to mic, and then you'll have you scientific proof :)Will that help educate you?
Do you need that level of hand-holding? or would the hundreds of tests performed online already, if you googled, suffice?Also i assume your term "audiofool" is an attempted play on "audiophile" ?
If so? No.
Im far from. You can keep your over-done rca's and your arguments on bananaplugs, and your "lossless" vs "analogue" and shove it.Id test first hand, and then let the computer analyse and tell me if I was right (I usually am, losing you vision for 3 years gets you sensitive hearing, not joking).
My go to headphones are koss ProtaPros, and knowing how venus sound/tune, my speakers are Rokkit 8's. Both on the bottom of the price scale.
However, well above the middle of the pack in almost all accuracy tests I've seen and performed.Rokkits cross talk a bit, but you learn to be aware of that.
ANYWAY back to BEATS;
they DO distort, extremely heavily, but its where humans are uneducated; in the very bottom end.The extra "doof" that the loose spider allows IS distortion, there is ZERO low cone control.
Also, the distortion if you enjoy music thats anywhere near 150bpm or higher is noticable even to average joe. When your "fast bass kick" becomes "constant bass wobble" it stands out!
Catch is, most people hear it as "more bass", because they havent heard their track on accurate devices to compare.
They can be happy, but they genuinely dont know, cant know, what they're missing.
@MasterScythe: Are you going to link any evidence or just your own personal experience because they is very scientific.
Also does the beats distorts above or below the human hearing range, coz I’m sick of people thinking they are either a bat or elephant that can hear above or below 20kz-20000khz@asafasr: I'm not a google slave;
but I'll bend, just to prove my point.Distortion is bad throughout the entire range.
As I said, NO CONE CONTROL, what part are you missing here?https://www.rtings.com/headphones/1-2/graph#522/2085
https://www.rtings.com/headphones/1-2/graph#436/2085
https://www.rtings.com/headphones/1-2/graph#369/2085There's a few examples of various beats products.
You'll notice these 'X' series did PARTICULARLY bad.I never said they were worthless (although, clearly, they're not great!)
What I pointed out was that when you're being beaten by things like cheap PC gaming headsets:
https://www.rtings.com/headphones/1-2/graph#737/2085
Including cheap Logitech offerings;
https://www.rtings.com/headphones/1-2/graph#504/2085
You're not doing very well.So now we've established that they're:
Expensive AND bad at reproducing accurate music;
whats the pro's here? You're defending them heavily. Your turn to back your claims up please.My advice?
While admittedly, they're NOT cheaper if you want a fair price-to-performance set of earphones, look at the Sennheiser MOMENTUM In-Ear series.$150 range, and less than 0.25THD at 90DB, dropping to somewhere around the 0.13-0.14 range at 100DB across nearly the entire spectrum.
I’ll have a pair of Sennheiser HE 1 please. Don’t want none of that Dr Dre loving rap headphones now.
Yeah they're pretty amazing.
Only problem is they're so darn accurate and clinical that anything mastered on "cheap gear" sounds similar to cassette vs cd.Things that are purposefully lost (like fingernails on guitar strings) are at risk of jumping to the foreground.
If you only listen to "good stuff" though; hell yes, the clarity is mind blowing.
I like their tests where they convinve you there is someone or something in the room with an audio track only. creepy.
@MasterScythe: That’s your brain processing the sounds that makes it feel like someone’s in the room, almost any 2 channel system can produce that
@asafasr: It's incredibly rare actually to be convincing.
If you're 'unaware' that you're wearing headphones (distracted by a game, movie, or anything);
then it's easy, yes.But if you're aware you have headphones on, you're expecting it, you're consciously feeling for air pressure changes in your ear, you're feeling the pressure of the cups; and the headphoens are seim-open or open, so you can hear 'real' noise around you, its really easy to remember you're listening to an audio track…
When you can have people who are aware they have headphones on ripping them off to run to help the screaming person, or looking at their feet to try and avoid the dog; when they KNOW they're expecting that to happen already? That's something special.
That level of accuracy and fine detail in a silent room is hard to achieve.
@MasterScythe: What if I want to listen to BassHunter? Only the greatest Swedish artist of all time!
@[Deactivated]: I actually enjoy basshunter when I want cheesy electro something :P
And believe it or not; his music is strangely clean.It's one of those side effects of being an electronic artist; if you watch your waveform, you can avoid clipping and only have the exact notes you want.
Early Skrillex (minus his older Sonny Moore voice samples) are also perfectly 'clean' on a waveform.
Electronic artists get a lucky break when it comes to making clean distortion free music.@[Deactivated]: You're tainted by the youtube clips and various online sources pirating\re-recording his music.
I don't blame you :P
Every kid and teenybopper seems to have amplified or 'bass boosted' or 'stupid audio enhanced' his songs.
So yes, online? Distortion city.I picked up his CD on clearance; I tend to buy anything thats cheap, and was also a 'phenomenon' in any way.
Ripped it to FLAC; shits clean.
It's certainly not good music :P but it's certainly 'fun', if you want kicks and high energy.
Eh, my tastes are extremely eclectic. I was driving home listening to early big band Swing last night.@MasterScythe: One question about that Flac. Would you say it beats CD? E.g. tidal at Hi-Fi 1500kbs vs CD?
@[Deactivated]: No such thing.
FLAC is lossless, and that's the point.
Assuming a perfect 'reading' of the disc, it'll be a perfect FLAC file.Basic lesson;
Lets take uncompressed digital data:
000111 (three 0's followed by three 1's).
In a compressed, but lossless format, we can make a rule;
000111 = A (the letter A)So, if your music file had repetition, you might see this:
000111 000111 000111 000111 (24 characters)
Lets compress it:
A A A A (4 characters)We have compressed the file, to 1/6th it's original size.
But since we KNOW that A = exactly 000111, we can decompress it with ZERO LOSS, the data is perfect once again.Flac files can end up being nearly as big as a pure WAVE file (raw uncompressed), if no patterns emerge.
For example:
000111 010101 000111 (18 caracters)
We only have 1 rule so far, though;That 000111 = A.
That middle section can't be compressed!
We end up with this:
A 010101 A (8 characters).If we had a rule for 010101, say = B, we could once again have a truly LOSSLESS compression,
A B A (3 characters) and bam, compressed, lossless and tiny.Compared to MP3, which is lossy, this is why the files are significantly bigger.
In the MP3 world;
000110 might be considered close enough to 000111 to equal A (in mp3's inaccurate math).
So while MP3 manages to use math to get it 'close enough'; when we decompress MP3's version of A;
It could equal 000111, 000110, or 100111 (they're all close enough, right? But not perfect).
So mp3 manages to be Tiny, because all of the file will end up being; A B A B B A A A B B B;At no point will it fall back to going "whoops, that's not perfect, don't compress 110110101010, I have no math for that, store it raw" like flac would do.
It will make a close enough guess, and compress that close to accurate (but not perfect).
This is why you always rip MP3 at 256~320k, there is enough 'space' allowed to make smaller more accurate guesses.Make sense?
@[Deactivated]: Or FLAC, or ALAC, or WAV, or anything lossless, if you're confident the RIP was accurate :)
As I said, FLAC can't possibly be more perfect, because it's lossless. Zero loss.
As I said, no such thing as beating it, its 1:1Read my explanation again, slowly :)
Not trying to toot my own horn, but it's a damn good explanation :P
Does "New Repack" mean it's a demo unit? Or a Open-box return?
refurb?
Not a fan of Beats myself but I bought a pair of these when Bing Lee had them for sale. I use them to workout in and they're fine for the job. The sound quality is decent and they aren't too bassy. Main thing is they're really comfortable and don't fall out whilst jumping around.
I had these since september 2017:
1) Replaced twice because of button failure and connectivity issue. Lasted like 6-9 months between failures, i am not sure if they will last long.
2) Battery life degraded significantly after few months of usage (i use it daily for atleast 3-4 hours)
3) sounds ok (not as good as earpods)
3) pros: Feels comfortable, and pairing is super easy
I regret buying it over airpods or other brands. If you can, avoid.3) sounds ok (not as good as earpods)
And they're free!
Edit: well, "included free", apple tax covers them.
Says new repack, so someone returned them? Seems legit.