FiiO M6 Portable High-Resolution Audio Player (with AirPlay, LDAC +All Bluetooth codecs) $191.96 Delivered @Addictedtoaudio eBay

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  krammis76 on 25/02/2019 - 18:50

  I wonder how this would go as a replacement for my dying lg v20. Anyone know how it compares? I'm only running a pair of Sennheiser hd58x and some koss porta pros

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    thebadmachine on 25/02/2019 - 18:56

    +2

    I see you are talking about the LG phone with the hyped DAC. Cannot say for sure you will have to rely on others to chime in, or do your own research.
    Fiio is a purpose built DAP (no compromises for phone functions). LG v20 is in a completely different price range when new, and one less device you have to carry.

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      Pikaloo on 25/02/2019 - 19:01

      My LGv20 is still going strong. Would recommend.

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      thebadmachine on 25/02/2019 - 19:04

      +1

      EDIT: I just looked it up the LG V20 is from 2016. Take what you will from that.

      “I use my v20 every day at work with HD 6XXs. It drives them well enough for what it is. Certainly not much headroom but, maxed out it is a very respectable volume output. It will not push my m1060s to anything resonable. It's about as good as phones get. It's comparable to entry level good DAPs I'd say. You could upgrade to a proper DAP or stick with the V20”

      “For a phone it definitely sounds better than some other ones out there. Compared to a dedicated DAP, it'll depend on whether you'll notice the difference. For the price you probably can't beat it when you consider that it comes with a phone. I've been using the V20 for about a year and a half now and while there are problems with it as a phone and as a dap, the biggest issue I have as a dap would be the volume control at time. It does sound better than some other phones out there. I know people who are sticking with their V20 or G6 for music even after they changed to a newer phone.

      I just went to try out the AR15 with my IEM (Westone 4r) yesterday and did hear a difference between them. Sound was more full and pleasant on the SR15 compared to the V20, but that's also a $700 vs $188 (current) price. (I believe I picked up my V20 after the price drops for ~$470) However, whether that difference will be very noticeable or not will depend on where I'm listening to it. I'm currently considering a dap mostly due to the trend of newer phones not having microSD, 3.5mm jack, and a want for a shiny new toy.

      For a more practical route at that price point, I think you can't really go wrong with the V20 as long as you remember it's a LG which means it'll depend on your luck how well their QC/QA is.”

      I think the answer to your question is you’ll never really know unless you try them both side by side. The outcome will be different for every person depending on hearing and equipment (IEM’s/Headphones).
      If your V20 is dying.. give something shiny and new in your price range a try or buy another V20.

      From reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/9a05v4/dedicate…

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        krammis76 on 25/02/2019 - 20:50

        Cheers for the detailed reply. I've just bought a pixel 3 so i wont be buying another phone for audio listening. So that's why i was looking into something like this. Guess i'll do some more research and see if it'll suit my needs. Cheers.

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  sk3iron on 25/02/2019 - 18:59

  +2

  I can speak to longevity of Fiio, garbage, I had two die in less than 12 months because the port got jacked and stopped receiving input both times, poor build quality imho but when it did work it worked exceptionally well. Maybe i'm just rough shrug

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    thebadmachine on 25/02/2019 - 19:08

    Port as in USB-C? That’s worrying as it is meant to be the future of ports. I always found lightning of quite good design, as there is nothing extra within the centre of the port. You can use a vacuum cleaner once in a while to just suck everything out if it gets dusty.

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    Diji1 on 25/02/2019 - 19:34

    I had a headphone amp of their's and the battery died very quickly.

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    Black Hole on 25/02/2019 - 22:08

    -1

    For years, I have warn other of this issue but I was being brushed off by them as being unlucky :). This goes with LG and Asus phone, tablet, and laptop.

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      Lps on 25/02/2019 - 23:43

      +seibmoZ niagraB

      Gee mate, everything fails on you. I may have found the problem…

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    BrewerHaHa on 25/02/2019 - 23:04

    Had my X1 since it's release and I still use it almost everyday. Sometimes there's some bugs but I'm used to it

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  dimon baton on 25/02/2019 - 19:33

  nowadays there's no point to carry multiple devices as I used to old times. Proprietary devices would have less QA\users testing, pick V30 or wait for V40, it is no brainer.

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    Diji1 on 25/02/2019 - 19:35

    would have less QA\users testing

    That's what happened in your imagination.

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      dimon baton on 25/02/2019 - 19:41

      In your's mate. Compare the size of LG and FiiO, get the feel of enterprise vs 100 employees size company.

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        brotherfranciz on 25/02/2019 - 21:14

        +2

        nowadays there's no point to carry multiple devices as I used to old times

        lol just because YOU find it pointless, doesn't mean everyone does.

        A cheaper smaller device with longer battery life, larger storage, no streaming data required, for when you exercise, take a flight, etc., and it won't be as painful to drop or lose as your expensive smartphone.

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    thebadmachine on 25/02/2019 - 19:44

    I myself carry around only a smart phone. But prefer to have a DAP lying near the source for listening indoors. In a way it is a modern day remote control the way I use it (headphones in, or AirPlay to Apple TV > dac > speakers[when using this way as the signal is all digital up until dac I find lower cost DAP’s adequate as long as they do lossless]).
    Rather than an expensive CD player/Hi-Res network player unit.

    And when going for a walk/run I just use $8 earphones with my 10 year old Sony MP3 Walkman which is still going strong.
    (not much concern here with quality as I intentionally use these $8 Sony earphones as they have no bass and let in a lot of outside noise).

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  thebadmachine on 25/02/2019 - 22:17

  UPDATE: Bluetooth receiving function available only after firmware update. Can receive in SBC & LDAC only.
  (Yes this will make any wired headphones LDAC compatible, although LDAC is still a lossy codec it is the best codec Bluetooth has to offer [990 kbps] with Sony claiming CD quality) (and yes it seems a bit silly using this as a LDAC receiver when you could have lossless files playing on the device itself)

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  thebadmachine on 26/02/2019 - 01:55

  Ok everyone while watching Zeospantera’s video of the Fiio M6, had another look at the specs on Fiio’s website.
  On the official website instead of ‘standby’ it says ‘Deep sleep time 26 days’. Seems like you have to shut down the device to get 26 days. You will get nowhere that amount of time with the device on standby.

  2350mah is pretty decent for a DAP, but it seems these Android based systems chew through energy.
  (I know Google sends a lot of data to itself with its devices even if you opt-out, but considering this is a DAP I thought it would be much better in this regard.
  [you may be able to improve battery life by keeping wi-fi off])
  Even Sony DAP’s have the option to power off, with a slow start-up when turning on, but it seems this device is even a bit more sluggish in start-up.