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Pyongyang, North Korea from Sydney $1130 / Brisbane $1136 Return on Air China (Aug-Sep) @ BeatThatFlight

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Something a little different, but after seeing a friend headed there, we realised there were flights going from Sydney/Brisbane:

Flights from Sydney:

$1130 - 26 Aug to 04 Sep - https://bookings.beatthatflight.com.au/flights/syd2608fnj040…
$1130 - 24 Aug to 02 Sep - https://bookings.beatthatflight.com.au/flights/syd2408fnj020…

Flights from Brisbane:

$1136 - 24 Aug to 02 Sep - https://bookings.beatthatflight.com.au/flights/bne2408fnj020…

A bit more expensive from Melbourne and other ports though.

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  • +103

    Don't steal any posters in your hotel rooms there y'all

    • +43

      Not if you want a one way trip

      • +57

        bargain! save on the return flight

        • +16

          Even better bargain! No need to worry about cost of anything anymore, just hard labor for free accommodation and prison food.

          • +6

            @Ceilingcat: The prison food is rice congee and any rats you can find to eat.

            Still better than what you get served up in some supermarket food courts.

            • +1

              @[Deactivated]: Supermarket food courts? You mean the deli section?

                • @[Deactivated]: Why did you get so many negs?

                  • +1

                    @lonewolf: Because of the incorrect assumption that shopping centres = supermarkets. Probably also the very misogynistic remark about where to send your wife shopping.

                    • +3

                      @Tacooo: Misogynistic? I think that was sarcasm.

                      I read it as he was saying shopping centre and supermarket both use the same types of food / meat… People were all making jokes about the food.

                    • +8

                      @Tacooo: No no, I think it's because in his mix-up he implied that you might send the wife to buy food at a shopping centre food court, when obviously you would want her to go to the supermarket so she can do the cooking herself later

                    • +10

                      @Tacooo: Yep, my bad in terms of terminology.

                      My “shopping centre” is just a Coles, Woolworths, a few specialty shops, and a food court. So, over the years, we’ve grown to call the whole thing a “supermarket” when it’s technically the wrong term.

                      But my wife does do the shopping. I work six days a week, she’s a housewife (by choice). So she has the time to do so. Most of the couples around here (regional NSW) are the same.

                    • +4

                      @Tacooo:

                      misogynistic remark about where to send your wife shopping.

                      HOW DARE YOU ASSUME THE GENDER OF A WIFE!

          • +1

            @Ceilingcat: They got a WWOOF page I can check out?

        • be careful if you missed the return flight. You might get sued in court.

    • +4

      Side of botulism for free

    • +1

      Be sure to bring your 'quietest boots best for sneaking' to steal the poster so that the 'crime attempt offer' can be conducted to undermine 'the work ethic and motivation of the Korean people'.

      http://www.iwf.org/news/2804169/Of-Course-Otto-Warmbier's-%2…

    • +1

      Do that and you get free accommodation and food for the rest of your life.

      • +5

        Give a man a fish and he's fed for the day, ask the man to steal a poster and he's fed for the rest of his very short life.

    • Is it visa on arrival?

    • +1

      I hope the price includes complementary life insurance and funeral expenses

  • +56

    Thanks OP, this will make great family vacation.

    • +12

      Don’t forget your socks

    • +2

      Good for losing weight in the prison.

    • Do kids eat "free"?

  • +124

    "return"…

    • Hahahahahahahah this cracked me up

  • +8

    Would rather take the train like the supreme leader.

  • +1

    North Korea is beautiful that time of year.

    • +131

      Supreme leader says it is beautiful at all times of year.

      • +12

        The nuclear winter will be amazing.

      • +3

        And I dare anyone to tell him otherwise .

  • +2

    Such an intriguing deal, very tempting…

  • +2

    I'll meet you there

    • Good chance of you meeting Dennis Rodman there. Or if you get in trouble and you’re white, just tell Kim that you’re Luc Longley and you’ll be fine.

  • +1

    best sh*t i have seen all day. i will book this by tonight

    need a chineese visa though i assume

    • I guess so. On the outgoing leg, there are two stops in China which should render you ineligible for the 144-hour transit visa.

    • +3

      need a chineese visa

      You can enter North Korea by fishing boat (or a midget submarine).

  • +12

    Mmm. You can only visit as a tourist with a travel company. You can't just fly there and walk around

    • +8

      Yeah it'll be a very staged holiday. Hotels, meals, sites, people, etc. All artificial.

      • +28

        So like most holidays? lol

        • +8

          Haha not sure what holidays you go on, but I hate them. I hire a car and go wherever the hell I want =D

          Even a tour in Europe, USA, etc is only partly staged. In NK I expect even the restaurant staff will be reading from a script when you interact with them.

          • +11

            @incipient: There is a difference but not much of one I believe, we go on holidays and stay in nice hotels, eat at nice restaurants go to all the 'tourist' places and then come back and say 'wow the people of X are so nice'. Of course they are, we are rich tourists of course they are nice to us. Were not exactly living like the 'locals' as much as like to pretend we are.

          • +2

            @incipient:

            I expect even the restaurant staff will be reading from a script

            They won't be reading from a script.

            As I understand it the way North Korean society is setup all citizen's must inform on each other weekly.

            Saying nothing is not an option.

            So every citizen watches every other citizen for offences such as not wailing like a mother who has lost her son when the Great Leader's father's body is driven by in a hearse or having a defector in the family or saying you only like the Great Leader's policies a little bit. Consequences can be death or life long enslavement in labour camps. You also face these consequences for knowing or being in the same family as the offender.

            So North Korean people are literally terrified about doing the wrong thing, according to the dictator that runs the country, and this is why they appear to be crazy and/or stupid but it really is a terrible situation and you must think of the reality when judging them.

      • Euro only accepted :)

      • +2

        Think it as a big show, and you get to get on stage and watch from within. Even more exciting than your normal holidays, isn't it?

      • +2

        Like being in a movie. Awesome.

      • Video blog series of guy who went there on tour.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbuZlTBpC7I

    • Challenge accepted

  • +5

    Never understood why people want to visit a despotic place like North Korea. Good deal though.

    • +23

      It's incredibly interesting. That's why.

      • +7

        Totalitarian regimes are interesting, but are they worth visiting?

        • Yes. A camera touting tourist with all the latest gadgets that the locals don't have, is perhaps the only inclination that many of those in the outside world have much better lives.

          • +7

            @Thatbargainhunter: Yes, they will worship us as gods with our "smart phones" and "cameras" and "shoes" and "food".

          • +9

            @Thatbargainhunter: They won’t see you. You’re isolated from any real people, and just go on a predefined tour and meet Party cadres who spend their whole life smiling and telling foreigners how great their country is.

            It’s basically a theme park propaganda experience.

            • -1

              @[Deactivated]: Not completely true. There are quite a few times when you are not isolated or. Catching the metro or when you go through the parks.

              Yes, you are unlikely to have any conversations (but the language barrier would prevent that anyway).

          • +1

            @Thatbargainhunter: Except for the fact that you can only see certain things and meet certain privileged people.

            You don't get the meet the people that aren't aware or have no contact with the outside world.

            • -1

              @DogGunn: Of course and you have to understand that you are getting a limited view of the country. Doesn't diminish the fact that it is interesting.

              • +7

                @Thatbargainhunter: Of course it's interesting. However you're also sponsoring a dictatorship and help finance the regimes atrocities on its own people.

          • +3

            @Thatbargainhunter: absolutely false. north koreans regularly watch south korean media and consume chinese goods. you wont do anything to change their mind sets or their circumstance. dont think funding one of the most abusive and authoritarian regimes to satisfy your curiosity is doing north koreans any favours. its not ethical and theres no way around that

          • @Thatbargainhunter: You're assuming you'd be allowed out of the chosen for you hotel room. And if so, the oh so obvious under cover dudes will have the public keeping their distance

            • @poohduck: Most tourists stay at the Yanggakko hotel - but you definitely don't spend the whole day there. You return to the hotel after dinner and leave after.breakfast.

          • @Thatbargainhunter: There a copies of Korean Soap opera circulating around on USB. People know they are eating a shit sandwich of a life. By going on these tours you are directly contributing to the maintenance of the regime.

        • dictatorships are the most interesting places, as there is always that wonder whether you will get out.

        • +1

          Totalitarily worth it!

      • +3

        The problem is they will detain you and beat you and even murder you to make a point.

        Considering what is going on with Huawei and China right now I wouldn't want to visit China or North Korea. Since China might just lean on North Korea to detain you to assist with getting the Huawei director released.

        • +1

          I don't think you can get away anywhere in the world if you don't follow its local rules. But probably you justify your misbehavior by claiming any system that's different from what you are used to illegitimate. So staying in your home is truly a wiser choice for you.

          • +1

            @ryu: I used to think like that, when I was very young and started traveling. Things are never as bad when you're there, even with shooting around you. But that's what we're like (people); some acknowledge the danger and some think "there's shooting but I'm not getting shot". I thought that about Bangkok, in 1985. "It's a buddhist country; I'm safe". I'd like to know what Neil Davis thought. I wouldn't go to j'burg right now either. There are so many places to see, huge choices. Go somewhere where there is adventure and nice people who aren't shit scared of everything. I'd even go the hills of Columbia, and ride down the old death road. Kidnapping is pretty rare these days

          • @ryu: This isn't about following local rules. Just look at the amount of foreigners currently detained or imposed with exit bans in China as retaliation for Huawei CFO being detained for breaching international sanctions.

            Now going to a country who China has a lot of sway with and has tortured a foreigner to death over a poster is really somewhere you think is wise to visit?

      • It's incredibly interesting.

        If one wants a real holiday, i. e. no internet, no TV, no news.

        Of course, no crime will happen to you as long as you follow the strict guidelines.

        Plus you will be "escorted" at all times.

      • Because it’s a “curious” place

    • +3

      C'mon mate, buy 30 tickets and put them on ebay for profit

    • +2

      Because this is the best Korea

    • +2

      Think of it this way, it's the last of the Soviet-style communist states still in existence. When/if it goes they just won't exist anymore, so it's really your only chance to see something like that before it (potentially) disappears forever.

      • +8

        Sorry, but President-Forever XI will not agree.

        • The always-better-than-anyone-else you didn't realise China had turned against Soviet style since 1950s.

          • @ryu: You might have been reading too much "China Daily" or "Ren Ming Ri Bao".

      • North Korea has a whole disturbing “racial cleanliness” layer on top of its Stalinism. It’s probably worse than Russia ever was.

        Meanwhile, the Princeling faction in China is in the ascendancy and they (including Xi) worship Stalin. If you want to see a repressive pure Stalinist state, just wait ten years then go to China.

    • -1

      Because how many ppl can say they have been to Nth Korea? Not many. It will be a great topic of conversation for years to come.

      • +2

        just goto the dmz in north korea and walk around the room

        • +1

          Or to Siberia, in the logging camps. They're all Nth Koreans under contract for some pathetic amount.

    • Australia isn't really that different. You disagree with the government and you get locked up. Any 'rights" we have can be stripped away by the government. Refuse to pay ripoff council rates, they seize your house. I disagree with the war on drugs, but if I produce/distribute/use a mind altering substance the nanny state punishes me and locks me away for a long time. In America, the so-called land of freedom, you can get life without parole + 320 years just for selling pot on the street.

      Governement is the enemy; democracy, feudalism, theocracy, fascism, oligarchy, whatever… they're all bad.

  • +18

    44 hours and 40 minutes to get there.

    In chinese 4 means "Die"

    • +2

      44 hours??! Is that still considered planet earth?

    • It's a sign

  • +9

    You have become the moderator of /r/Pyongyang

  • It's a Holiday in ̶C̶a̶m̶b̶o̶d̶i̶a̶ Pyongyang….

  • +28

    While i understand the fascination of going i can't help but think your money you spend over there is going to be going to their oppressive regime.

      • +36

        Buy NK propaganda instead! NK Propaganda Best Propaganda!

        • Yes, even the great deal maker Trump has bought it. He is in love with the great leader.

          • +6

            @jalwa: I don't know that I approve, but I'm somewhat a fan of how he's dealing with Kim Jung-Un. Trump's not a statesman, which is perfect because NK isn't much of a nation state. Trump is a master at empty bravado, which is also perfect because NK is basically built on empty bravado. I'm not sure there's been a more perfect US President to tackle the issue of NK - the way NK operates as a country is basically how Trump operates as a businessman.

          • +2

            @jalwa: Correction, dear leader

      • +1

        should tell that to our pollies

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