Pyongyang, North Korea from Sydney $1130 / Brisbane $1136 Return on Air China (Aug-Sep) @ BeatThatFlight

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Something a little different, but after seeing a friend headed there, we realised there were flights going from Sydney/Brisbane:

Flights from Sydney:

$1130 - 26 Aug to 04 Sep - https://bookings.beatthatflight.com.au/flights/syd2608fnj040...
$1130 - 24 Aug to 02 Sep - https://bookings.beatthatflight.com.au/flights/syd2408fnj020...

Flights from Brisbane:

$1136 - 24 Aug to 02 Sep - https://bookings.beatthatflight.com.au/flights/bne2408fnj020...

A bit more expensive from Melbourne and other ports though.

For more information about tourism in North Korea, relevant wiki: Tourism in North Korea

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Comments

  • +102 votes

    Don't steal any posters in your hotel rooms there y'all

  • +56 votes

    Thanks OP, this will make great family vacation.

  • +124 votes

    "return"…

  • +8 votes

    Would rather take the train like the supreme leader.

  • +1 vote

    North Korea is beautiful that time of year.

  • +2 votes

    Such an intriguing deal, very tempting…

  • +2 votes

    I'll meet you there

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      Good chance of you meeting Dennis Rodman there. Or if you get in trouble and you’re white, just tell Kim that you’re Luc Longley and you’ll be fine.

  • +1 vote

    best sh*t i have seen all day. i will book this by tonight

    need a chineese visa though i assume

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      I guess so. On the outgoing leg, there are two stops in China which should render you ineligible for the 144-hour transit visa.

    • +3 votes

      need a chineese visa

      You can enter North Korea by fishing boat (or a midget submarine).

  • +12 votes

    Mmm. You can only visit as a tourist with a travel company. You can't just fly there and walk around

    • +8 votes

      Yeah it'll be a very staged holiday. Hotels, meals, sites, people, etc. All artificial.

      • +28 votes

        So like most holidays? lol

        • +8 votes

          Haha not sure what holidays you go on, but I hate them. I hire a car and go wherever the hell I want =D

          Even a tour in Europe, USA, etc is only partly staged. In NK I expect even the restaurant staff will be reading from a script when you interact with them.

          • +11 votes

            @incipient: There is a difference but not much of one I believe, we go on holidays and stay in nice hotels, eat at nice restaurants go to all the 'tourist' places and then come back and say 'wow the people of X are so nice'. Of course they are, we are rich tourists of course they are nice to us. Were not exactly living like the 'locals' as much as like to pretend we are.

          • +2 votes

            @incipient:

            I expect even the restaurant staff will be reading from a script

            They won't be reading from a script.

            As I understand it the way North Korean society is setup all citizen's must inform on each other weekly.

            Saying nothing is not an option.

            So every citizen watches every other citizen for offences such as not wailing like a mother who has lost her son when the Great Leader's father's body is driven by in a hearse or having a defector in the family or saying you only like the Great Leader's policies a little bit. Consequences can be death or life long enslavement in labour camps. You also face these consequences for knowing or being in the same family as the offender.

            So North Korean people are literally terrified about doing the wrong thing, according to the dictator that runs the country, and this is why they appear to be crazy and/or stupid but it really is a terrible situation and you must think of the reality when judging them.

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        Euro only accepted :)

      • +2 votes

        Think it as a big show, and you get to get on stage and watch from within. Even more exciting than your normal holidays, isn't it?

      • +2 votes

        Like being in a movie. Awesome.

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        Video blog series of guy who went there on tour.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbuZlTBpC7I

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      Challenge accepted

  • +5 votes

    Never understood why people want to visit a despotic place like North Korea. Good deal though.

    • +23 votes

      It's incredibly interesting. That's why.

      • +7 votes

        Totalitarian regimes are interesting, but are they worth visiting?

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          Yes. A camera touting tourist with all the latest gadgets that the locals don't have, is perhaps the only inclination that many of those in the outside world have much better lives.

          • +7 votes

            @sambutler9876: Yes, they will worship us as gods with our "smart phones" and "cameras" and "shoes" and "food".

          • +9 votes

            @sambutler9876: They won’t see you. You’re isolated from any real people, and just go on a predefined tour and meet Party cadres who spend their whole life smiling and telling foreigners how great their country is.

            It’s basically a theme park propaganda experience.

            • -1 vote

              @ajmlr: Not completely true. There are quite a few times when you are not isolated or. Catching the metro or when you go through the parks.

              Yes, you are unlikely to have any conversations (but the language barrier would prevent that anyway).

          • +1 vote

            @sambutler9876: Except for the fact that you can only see certain things and meet certain privileged people.

            You don't get the meet the people that aren't aware or have no contact with the outside world.

          • +3 votes

            @sambutler9876: absolutely false. north koreans regularly watch south korean media and consume chinese goods. you wont do anything to change their mind sets or their circumstance. dont think funding one of the most abusive and authoritarian regimes to satisfy your curiosity is doing north koreans any favours. its not ethical and theres no way around that

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            @sambutler9876: You're assuming you'd be allowed out of the chosen for you hotel room. And if so, the oh so obvious under cover dudes will have the public keeping their distance

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              @poohduck: Most tourists stay at the Yanggakko hotel - but you definitely don't spend the whole day there. You return to the hotel after dinner and leave after.breakfast.

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            @sambutler9876: There a copies of Korean Soap opera circulating around on USB. People know they are eating a shit sandwich of a life. By going on these tours you are directly contributing to the maintenance of the regime.

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          dictatorships are the most interesting places, as there is always that wonder whether you will get out.

        • +1 vote

          Totalitarily worth it!

      • +3 votes

        The problem is they will detain you and beat you and even murder you to make a point.

        Considering what is going on with Huawei and China right now I wouldn't want to visit China or North Korea. Since China might just lean on North Korea to detain you to assist with getting the Huawei director released.

        • +1 vote

          I don't think you can get away anywhere in the world if you don't follow its local rules. But probably you justify your misbehavior by claiming any system that's different from what you are used to illegitimate. So staying in your home is truly a wiser choice for you.

          • +1 vote

            @ryu: I used to think like that, when I was very young and started traveling. Things are never as bad when you're there, even with shooting around you. But that's what we're like (people); some acknowledge the danger and some think "there's shooting but I'm not getting shot". I thought that about Bangkok, in 1985. "It's a buddhist country; I'm safe". I'd like to know what Neil Davis thought. I wouldn't go to j'burg right now either. There are so many places to see, huge choices. Go somewhere where there is adventure and nice people who aren't shit scared of everything. I'd even go the hills of Columbia, and ride down the old death road. Kidnapping is pretty rare these days

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            @ryu: This isn't about following local rules. Just look at the amount of foreigners currently detained or imposed with exit bans in China as retaliation for Huawei CFO being detained for breaching international sanctions.

            Now going to a country who China has a lot of sway with and has tortured a foreigner to death over a poster is really somewhere you think is wise to visit?

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        It's incredibly interesting.

        If one wants a real holiday, i. e. no internet, no TV, no news.

        Of course, no crime will happen to you as long as you follow the strict guidelines.

        Plus you will be "escorted" at all times.

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        Because it’s a “curious” place

    • +3 votes

      C'mon mate, buy 30 tickets and put them on ebay for profit

    • +2 votes

      Because this is the best Korea

    • +2 votes

      Think of it this way, it's the last of the Soviet-style communist states still in existence. When/if it goes they just won't exist anymore, so it's really your only chance to see something like that before it (potentially) disappears forever.

      • +8 votes

        Sorry, but President-Forever XI will not agree.

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        North Korea has a whole disturbing “racial cleanliness” layer on top of its Stalinism. It’s probably worse than Russia ever was.

        Meanwhile, the Princeling faction in China is in the ascendancy and they (including Xi) worship Stalin. If you want to see a repressive pure Stalinist state, just wait ten years then go to China.

    • -1 vote

      Because how many ppl can say they have been to Nth Korea? Not many. It will be a great topic of conversation for years to come.

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      Australia isn't really that different. You disagree with the government and you get locked up. Any 'rights" we have can be stripped away by the government. Refuse to pay ripoff council rates, they seize your house. I disagree with the war on drugs, but if I produce/distribute/use a mind altering substance the nanny state punishes me and locks me away for a long time. In America, the so-called land of freedom, you can get life without parole + 320 years just for selling pot on the street.

      Governement is the enemy; democracy, feudalism, theocracy, fascism, oligarchy, whatever… they're all bad.

  • +18 votes

    44 hours and 40 minutes to get there.

    In chinese 4 means "Die"

  • +9 votes

    You have become the moderator of /r/Pyongyang

  •  

    It's a Holiday in ̶C̶a̶m̶b̶o̶d̶i̶a̶ Pyongyang….

  • +28 votes

    While i understand the fascination of going i can't help but think your money you spend over there is going to be going to their oppressive regime.

    • -27 votes

      Don't blindly buy US propaganda.

      • +36 votes

        Buy NK propaganda instead! NK Propaganda Best Propaganda!

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          Yes, even the great deal maker Trump has bought it. He is in love with the great leader.

          • +6 votes

            @jalwa: I don't know that I approve, but I'm somewhat a fan of how he's dealing with Kim Jung-Un. Trump's not a statesman, which is perfect because NK isn't much of a nation state. Trump is a master at empty bravado, which is also perfect because NK is basically built on empty bravado. I'm not sure there's been a more perfect US President to tackle the issue of NK - the way NK operates as a country is basically how Trump operates as a businessman.

          • +2 votes

            @jalwa: Correction, dear leader

      • +1 vote

        should tell that to our pollies

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