Lowest ever price for this model.
TGG have matched JB's sale price of $1495
Also available at Bing Lee Ebay store for $1495 which comes down to the same price for NSW residents.
This makes it an easy $250 price difference between the lowest ever cost of LG B8 series. Hisense use LG panels for their OLED's and the reviews so far have been good.
Before someone rambles on about the brand being only Hisense (and not LG/Panasonic/Sony), below are some reviews:
Kinda regret the 50 inch 7 series I bought late last year now for 900.
Is the 65 on sale?
This or x9000f?
This…
With a little dose of the Sade managed to get the 55" X9000F for $1430
Depends on your usage - generally if you're viewing in a darkened room - OLED all the way!
However, no reviews are stating the brightnessr. It's may/may not be as bright than competing OLEDs, so could struggle even more in bright rooms.
I chose the x900f over this mainly because Sony image processing is top of the line. The 9000f also gets Dolby vision HDR.
There other other reasons but I was tempted by OLED.
Did not know Hisense made OLED. Thought it was only the big 3.
Kogan do too actually, though they can only be used in 4 hour intervals (to prevent burn in) which is a bit ridiculous.
Ridiculous, correlates with the ridiculously low prices.
Yep, and spot where they mention that on the product page https://www.kogan.com/au/buy/55-oled-smart-4k-tv-hdr-refurbi… (hint: they don't!!)
It's an LG panel i believe… as listed above from the OP
Refresh rate info is suspiciously absent from their info, which leads me to suspect it's a 60hz panel, and thus a year behind, like most re-badged LG panels.
Grab the B8 in preference to this if you have to buy today, otherwise sit back and buy another 2019 OLED later in the year, which should come with a 120hz panel and HDMI 2.1.
Thats what I'm waiting for, 65in 120hz sub 2k, Christmas specials 2019!
Very specific!
When the stars align, OLED is the best way to experience it.
The sun is a poor backlight. Makes space look washed out. OLED all the way
Left out some specifications - 65in, 120hz, 5ms response time, Dolby Vision HDR and or HDR10. Under $2000. probably Christmas 2020.
120Hz TVs must have low frame rate compensation do they? Ie. the TV just inserts immitation frames in between. As 120Hz source material doesn't exist widely yet as far as i know. Still would look a LOT better than 60Hz.
From what I understand of 2016 and 2017 LG OLED panels, they're capable of BFI with 60Hz content if the manufacturer implements it.
Sony and LG are the only ones who I know for certain do, but it'll be readily listed in their feature sets if available. Probably yet another reason to focus on the B and C series from LG.
Yes it will still have a 'smooth motion' feature to interpolate frames, but after turning that off 120hz is the perfect frame rate! Our most common frame rates divide equally into it! Each frame is just displayed multiple times. 120/24 = 5 120/30 = 4 120/60 = 2. On the other hand 60/24 does not work and requires 3:2 pull down which can give unnatural stutter, which is probably why we have the smooth motion feature to begin with.
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This specs sheets says "Inputs HDMI inputs 4
HDMI type 4K@60Hz with HDCP version 2.2 Yes (HDMI 1, HDMI 2)
HDMI type 1.4 with HDCP version 1.4 Yes (HDMI 3, HDMI 4)
HDMI 2.0 compliant input Yes (HDMI 1, HDMI 2)"
so only 60hz refresh rate at 4k with hdcp 2.2 on hdmi 1 and 2 then.
By the same token the LG B8 wouldn't be considered a 120Hz device, when it is, and supports 60 Hz BFI, as well as HFR content via streaming or file.
It probably is a 60Hz panel, but it's important to point out the distinction. With any luck the 2018 LG OLED series will get a firmware update to provide HDMI 2.1 spec, but I wouldn't hold out hope, and it'd probably be the only one of last year's OLED models to wind up supporting.
There are no 120fps movies or TV shows available. Nearly all movies are 24 frames per second so 120hz would not make a difference.
I think it makes a difference if you are watching a movie shot in 24 frames. 120/24 = 5 but 60/24 = 2.5 so the TV has to use some tricks to get it to fit.
2842 has already pointed out where it helps with frame pacing and scaling, but more importantly the content is being made (and 50 fps and 60 fps will soon become broadcast/film standards), and will become more prominent over the typical lifespan of a TV.
Gaming is also a thing people do on their TVs, and 4k120Hz will become fairly mainstream over the next 5 years. It matters.
By then you'll be preaching 8k 240hz matters
60hz is perfectly fine for most people, heck most 4k uhd discs are 24hz. You can still get motion blur with 120hz, I know because I own a b7 oled, it entirely depends on the content and the settings of the TV
@TEER3X: Well the long term goal for sample-and-hold panels is probably 1000Hz in order to trick the eyes into natural motion without any flicker or BFI techniques.
In the mean time, I'm not going to leave performance improvements like that on the table when the price difference is around 10%. Keep in mind you need a 120Hz panel for 60 FPS BFI (even if said panel can't display 120 FPS content).
Now this mixes things up. I've had a LG 55C6 and got my 55B8 for $1500 with the Domain Amex offer and a price match earlier this year.
But this sets a new bar for what will give you the same picture as the B8 and nearly the same as the C8 upwards and the panny. Snap this up!
On the flip side why did Hisense even bother trying to sell it at such a high price. Basically they will have had zero sales for 3 months which is stupid.
I am in Tassie, So cannot get some of the Bing Lee deals.
Should I pull the trigger on this or wait for the B8 55 to drop down to this price?
It depends. The LG is likely to be better in most regards than the Hisense, at least IMO. For the $100 difference I’d absolutely recommend the LG, as for one thing I’m really not confident in suggesting that the software in the Hisense can compare with the LG, in my estimation that alone would be worth $100. That being said, it’s likely that the Hisense OLED offering is reasonable enough, but it’s the price point that’s letting it down. This is Hisense first line of OLED, and though the tech has been proven to a degree, Hisense hasn’t, so far as I can see, proven that they can make a decent set. LCD is a different story because Hisense have been doing that for a long time, and on the whole, though lacking some of the higher end features represent good value.
Thanks for the info, The LG for me here is atleast $500 difference atm, none of the ebay deals ship to Tasmania. Unless you can point me elsewhere?
Ah. Sorry. In that case, I’m not sure what to suggest. Ultimately the LG will likely be a better set, however, it just depends on how much the $500 is worth. I wouldn’t think that the LG is worth the near $2K it sounds like it’s asking in Tasmania, but if you’re only option within your price point is either an LCD or the Hisense OLED, the Hisense OLED would prob be my choice, unless you’re a very keen gamer and would more or less be using the TV as an XB1 etc monitor. If it’s for general viewing I’d imagine that the OLED would be miles ahead of an LCD if only for removing any issues with clouding, viewing angles, and colour, which I find very irritating.
The Samsung QLED’s are good, but to get something approaching OLED quality, you have to jump up to the higher range models, as LCD need high quality panels, decent backlight arrangements, and diffusers along with local dimming software to really overcome clouding, or uneven picture uniformity, which even the lower model OLED panels that shouldn’t be problematic.
@BertieBrown: Why wouldn't you use it for gaming?
Hdr and oled are really the only reason I want to upgrade from a 1080 ips tv.
@Scaregdearimasu: Mainly because of IR, or permanent IR.
Having said that, it really depends on the usage. Because TV, and movies generally don’t display a static image for extended periods of time it’s not a problem for OLED TV’s, as each individual pixel isn’t being pushed more than the rest, differing movie and TV scenes balance out how much each pixel is being utilised.
However, if like me, you might play Fallout for a few weeks, not continuously, but without displaying other content and simply turning the TV off between sessions, you could end up with some form of permanent image retention.
You’ll find that most review sites will still recommend OLED for gaming regardless of this, generally citing that the low input lag, excellent black levels, great uniformity, and colour are too much of a draw to risk the trade off. I don’t agree with that mentality, mainly just because OLED’s are so bloody expensive that as I see it, it’s too much of a risk as an investment if it does end up with IR. So I’d rather just say, if you’re a pretty keen gamer then LCD is a safer choice; is it a better choice? Well, yes and no, if you can afford to either put up with IR, or just buy a new OLED TV, then no, the OLED would be better for the above mentioned reasons, however if the TV will function as a gaming monitor for say 70% of the time, and a TV for the rest, then there’s a chance that IR could be an issue.
Some plasma TV’s were more prone to burn in, as it was known, than other models, and perhaps it is that we now largely only have one supplier of the OLED panels that we see a more consistent risk of IR. I’m not sure. But certainly there were folks who would play the hell out of their plasma TV’s and wouldn’t experience any degree of IR, which was also backed up by tests.
I think this notion, that as OLED and plasma are similarly self emitting displays, and that there were indeed some models that were nearly impervious to IR, that people assume that the same characteristics should, or would follow, and thus feel confident that OLED would or is the same, however, thus far that doesnt appear to be the case.
Throw in to that mix, a proportionate level of trolling, fanboyitis, and there certainly are an element of folks who swear black and blue that OLED is fine for gaming, that they personally have never experienced any degree of IR, and that suggesting OLED is vulnerable is some form of fear mongering, and frankly if such people can afford to purchase multiple TV’s in the event their panel does get IR, well more power to them I suppose, but certainly I will always prefer to err on the side of caution.
@Scaregdearimasu: As long as you use OLED for a mix of content (i.e. 50% gaming 50% video), you won't get burn-in. My wife and I used our 4 year old OLED for 90% Overwatch for about a year straight before seeing any IR from the HUD (not our greatest moment). But then after watching a few months of 90% Netflix, it went away. Bear in mind my 2nd gen model is nowhere near as resilient as the current ones.
@BertieBrown: Cheers for the in-depth information. I think if I wait another month or 2 they should drop to the $1500 mark. I believe the new LG oleds should be out around June/July?
@oats: I’m afraid I couldn’t tell you then the new models are coming out. Usually it’s around late April to May that new stuff starts to hang around the traps but I wouldn’t want to say as I’m just not sure. Sorry.
You’re very welcome, I don’t know a whole lot about a whole lot but if I’ve helped a bit then I’m glad :)
twitch app ?
P20BING cannot be applied to order. Looks like this item is excluded.
I had the same error message when I tried. I figured it was because I was in Brisbane!
I removed the code from the listing. Thanks for the update.
Does this have Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos passthru to speakers?
How do you click and collect? I'm not getting that as an option…
Dealbreaker for me
Does anyone actually have one of these or know anyone that does? The reviews are vague. The TV looks good in person so it would be good so see what real world use is like.
Well I just won the internet again.
Found that PROUD still works at 6:30am on Saturday.
Appliance central had two of these listed for $1460 plus only $25 delivery to Melbourne.
With discount is was $1339 delivered so cheaper than GG. There should be one left!
Still yet to find any real life commentary on this TV, even on whirlpool. No one must be biting!
I picked one up on the weekend… not much of a TV afficionado, but it looks good to me!
I was worried about the various comments around the web regarding viewing angle, but it's no worse than my former TV. Because the screen delivers really black blacks, it is susceptible to reflections when viewed on an angle. Nothing to worry about when you're watching straight-on.
Second hesitation was the comments around 'brightness' and the concerns that it wouldn't be bright enough in a well-lit room. Our TV is in our open-plan living space which has windows on every side of the room. Again, no worse than our former TV - I'm sure you can get brighter TVs, but in honesty it's no issue for us. It's not like it's unviewable. For $1345 (which is what we paid), it's a great tele.
I got mine delivered quickly from Appliance Central and have set it up. At the moment crazy busy with work and unboxing since moving apartments, so only watch a bit of FTA and everything is blocky and upscaled - I have to admit it doesn't look fantastic doing upscaling. But I assume it's the same with most 4K TVs even an LG OLED. I have an OLED Samsung Tablet so I am very used to inky blacks, but the screen is 12" and 2K so it's pretty forgiving for 1080p content. Doubling the pixels and going from 12" to 55" is the problem. Hope I can throw some better content at it soon.
55 Inch OLED under $1.5k is preet sweet.