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Apple 27" iMac Pro with Retina 5K Display 3.2GHz 8-Core Intel Xeon W (MQ2Y2X/A) $6569 (Was $7299) @ Officeworks or The Good Guys

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This may not be for everyone, but I think it's a good deal for those that are after one.

Expiry date based on The Good Guys As Advertised price ends 03 April 2019 (assume Officeworks dropped their price to match them).

From officeworks:

Pros love iMac so we created one just for you. It’s packed with the most powerful graphics and processors ever in a Mac, along with the most advanced storage, memory and I/O — all behind a breathtaking Retina 5K display in a sleek, all-in-one design. For everyone from photographers to video editors to 3D animators to musicians to software developers to scientists, iMac Pro is ready to turn your biggest ideas into your greatest work.

27-inch (diagonal) Retina 5K display
3.2GHz Intel Xeon W
Radeon Pro Vega 56 graphics processor with 8GB of HBM2 memory
32GB of 2666MHz DDR4 ECC memory
1080p FaceTime HD camera
802.11ac Wi-Fi wireless networking
1TB of storage
5120 x 2880 resolution with support for 1 billion colours
Stereo speakers

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    • +2

      I’ve looked into it many times. You just don’t get an AIO from any windows OEM that is worth it. Work had a cluster of dell and HP AIOs, but seriously all were bad. The iMac is several steps above any of them.
      That said, the AIO form factor is inherently a compromise performance use and you have to be ready for that. But no body makes an AIO as well as Apple.

      I just custom built an AM4 gamer. It ended up about $1k less than an upspec iMac, but the screen is nowhere near as good (tbh wasn’t needed and 2k 144hz was perfectly FFP) and it wasnt hassle free to build with a few motherboard issues. I would say the iMac is worth the price for what it is, except for the SSD upgrade prices that are criminal.

      This iMac Pro when it came out was similar, worth the price for its use case then, but the price of personal builds has dropped since then while that of iMac Pro hasn’t. But I can’t imagine a professional video studio, for which the iMac Pro is intended, would bother with building workstations.

      The problem since about 2015 is that Cook’s Apple has sought to make great profits from good computers, whereas Jobs’ Apple sought to make good profits from great computers. Turns out, that small change in emphasis is everything.

      • As an alternative to an AIO (of which I did buy a HP one for my wife a few years ago which is actually pretty good), But back on topic, I buy small/tiny form factor PC's and mount them to the back of the monitor. Works perfectly as long as you don't need a graphics card. Things like the Lenovo tiny or other small form factor can be mounted in this way giving basically the same effect as an AIO with the added bonus of being easily upgradable or swappable.

  • +4

    A nice Xeon processor, a good amount of ECC ram, and all choked by a crappy thermal solution.

  • +1

    did you buy one OP?

  • +6

    I don't understand why people are still defending apple and their profit margins? Every time i call out an apple product for its ludicrous price, someone always jumps to their defense.

    • +21

      Maybe they're just sick of looking through every Apple thread and seeing people like you 'calling them out' for selling a product that people want to buy. There's plenty of places on the Internet where you can congregate and complain about all sorts of things - does it really have to be here?

      • -2

        Yes, because I don't see how it is a bargain personally.

    • +4

      They're not the only ones now, look at how Microsoft and Google have transitioned into charging premiums for their devices. If people keep paying what they ask they'll keep charging more

    • +7

      Every time i call out an apple product for its ludicrous price

      and yet you keep calling them out. a noble knight in the Ethernet, crusading to try and convince others to think like him, spending so much time to the cause of corporate profits

      I am happy you are out there to help us and sleep better at night knowing you keep calling them out.

    • Ehh, mobile aside I think Apple have become much more competitive in price with their Mac range.

      My biggest issue is everyone claiming Apple is so much more user friendly. Honestly, working productively on a Mac seems nearly impossible for me, everything 'works' but it's so convoluted and lacking of any sophisticated shortcuts that it simply 'works' and a quarter the speed of a Windows machine.

      Tldr, Macs are priced far better than in the past

    • +22

      It's not a gaming computer…

      • so what can it do then an alienware gaming computer cant? aside obviously from having osx and imovie…

        • +1

          Any creative suite that is going to utilise all 16 cores?

          • @krisspy: which exactly creative suite likes these 16 threads more than i9 16 threads?

            • +3

              @jellical: I don’t think the i9 and the Xeon have the same use case. Video rendering on this iMac Pro would be better than the brand new top spec iMac with an i9 inside.

              That said, for home use an i9 iMac has close to the same benchmarks as the iMac Pro for much less and thus more suitable.

        • +1

          Haha, criticize this, yet buy Alienware which has bigger markup than Apple.

    • +2

      Not sure if you’ve missed the other top comments, or just don’t care.

      This isn’t for gaming. It’s a workstation all in one that runs OSX very well, and is aimed at media and editing professionals.

      It won’t get more FPS at 1440p than a 1070. Its processor isn’t designed for gaming. It will, however, render video a LOT better, it has a display that FAR exceeds consumer displays (you’d be hard pressed to find an equivalent screen under $2k), and it fully supports OSX, so you can run apps like Final Cut Pro, and do other media-centric tasks.

      I’m not going to buy one, because I can’t afford it, and I have no interest in doing what it does well. Other people do use them for everything from film editing to graphic design and music production. If they want to game in their spare time, they’ll get a semi decent framerate, but it’s not the purpose. Being a workstation, they’re often tax deductible too! Yay!

      No one ever buys macs for the sole purpose of gaming. You don’t walk in to a store and drop $3k on a MacBook, expecting it to outperform a gaming laptop. It just won’t. It will be well built, well supported, and you can bet a lot of the design work for your favourite games will be done on one, or even better - an iMac Pro.

  • I'm really curious to see the margin on this

    • +1

      I looked it up. They're losing 9 cents.

    • +1

      Apple products on average has a margin of 35%, but some products does have much lower margin (low end iPhones, Apple TVs, AirPods, other accessories.)

      • I lol'd at Airpods having low margin. Do you seriously think that it costs more to manufacture Airpods than say Soundpeats?

        • +3

          You're not counting engineering efforts, the software to make the left and right earpiece syncs audio, the custom CPU they make for the AirPods, the development cost for iOS to recognise AirPods and pairs immediately with one tap, custom equipments they make for the Chinese factories, etc.

          Apple reports gross margin to the investors every quarter, I'm just quoting what they reported. If they put out incorrect figure, the SEC is after them, so there's no reason for them to lie about these numbers.

          Check the reports yourself here: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/pdfs/Q1_FY19_Consolidated_Fin…

      • -2

        Current low end iPhone cost Apple ~$350 to make, sells for $759

        AirPods - are you kidding me? If these cost Apple more than $20 to make, I'll eat the world's charger Xiaomi included in my phone box.

        Other accessories - now you're trolling. Apple's accessories are looking at 1000% markup.

        The Mac range is apples only range that can be properly justified

        • +1

          See my reply to other posters above.

        • +1

          You have only considered component cost. What about research and development, marketing, shipping, support, stores, assembly, testing etc. These are all added costs that need to be factored in to each product sold.

          So no, an iPhone doesn't just cost Apple $350.

          AirPods definitely cost more than $20 to make.

          Other accessories - now you're trolling. Apple's accessories are looking at 1000% markup.

          Oh, the irony.

      • +1

        I own a apple authorised reseller store and Service center in Surrey Hills, Melbourne 3127. I can guarantee you that no Apple product has 35% margin at least for the seller. Most are around the 10% mark. One of the sole reasons Myer has stopped selling Apple products.

        How much is the cost price of Apple products? may be 50%-70%.

        For us - Phones, iPads, Watches are not even 10%.

        • +1

          Yea to the sellers it's definitely lower. I'm quoting the figures they reported to the investors as their gross margin. Includes engineering effort for custom CPU, iOS software, the software inside the AirPods, etc. These 35% is gross margin across all products, not just phone or Macs.

          Reports here, check it out yourself: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/pdfs/Q1_FY19_Consolidated_Fin…

  • -1

    It’s a terrible buy now that Apple has a 9900k iMac 5k, it faster than this machine

    • +1

      I still wouldn't buy that machine either - the 9900K is paired with the much worse cooling solution of the old design since 2014! Thermal throttling to the MAX!! Crazy!

      • I am waiting to see a thermal test before buying one. We will see.
        Isn’t the i9 better than than the previous i7 regarding power use?

        • +1

          I don’t think so, it is still 14nm meaning the same or greater power usage.

    • +1

      Sure in one metric, and if you spec up the ram, ssd and the GPU, the prices are very close, they had this worked out. That said the i9 isn't a bad machine if you buy your own ram and are in the market for a 5K monitor.

      As for the old argument everyone keeps throwing around, if you custom built a workstation using like for like parts. Eg. Same Xeons, ECC and most importantly, a 5K monitor of this calibre, this isn't actually very overpriced.
      Do a search online for people who have done the comparisons if you don't believe me.
      Real graphics and video workstations cost this easy. Every person here consumes content created on Mac's and PCs that have $2000+ CPUs and $2000+ video cards. That's before you even think about high end storage and oodles of RAM.

  • -4

    7k for 4 threads hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahaha

    Edit: looks like a more reasonable W-2140B not a W-2104 as officeworks has listed.

    • +1

      How did you even think it might have 4 threads? 8 cores, 16 threads is the minimum any iMac Pro has.

  • +1

    What a bargain!! Couple help but have a long laugh!!

  • +1

    im all against apple and their massive tax, but i read somewhere else where people were calling this overpriced and someone linked a custom build page showing the price of individual components is actually greater than normal price. mainly its the ECC memory, monitor, ssd, and xeon that cost so much. he said this is not a gaming pc, and gaming pcs would do horrible with professional workloads that this thing can easily handle. the xeon is 10 core at least iirc.

    • 8 core or 10 meh. Xeons have lower frequency so kinda dosnt matter. And will bring a 16 core 3800x for $600 so kinda makes all this a ripoff off.

  • Bargain of the century.

  • i still dont get why professionals choose to work with a mac

    • -1

      Usually start-ups, many of which are millennials who are trying to get a certain image.

  • I'll take it. Does it come in black?

  • -1

    You know your desktop PC is NOT in need of any more upgrades when something like this seems slow to what you are rocking…

  • +4

    Just updated the work computer, had the option of this Mac or building a new PC. Boy am I glade I built a PC, twice as fast, if not faster. With content creation, especially with ADOBE software in particular After Effects the key to faster render times is faster per core performance, not more cores aka Intel i9 9900k and 64GB ram.

    I basically have this PC Spec for 5k including two 32in montiors
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_xmXM_XMS4

    Hope this helps someone :)

    • Boy am I glade I built a PC, twice as fast, if not faster.

      How do you know that?

      • +1

        At work, theres a couple of iMac Pros and lots of Mac Pros. I've tried working on the iMac Pro and it was only marginally better than the Mac Pro for After effects/Premier. The new i9 9900k with 64gb ram and 2080, absolutely smokes both systems, not only in render times, but for workflow. Sooo gooooood.

  • +4

    This is a wonderful piece of kit but I'd have to have a LOT of spare cash to even pay $4,000 for what is essentially still an all in one computer with a 27" monitor.

  • -1

    An iMac or a deposit on a new house. Tough Choice.

    What a joke Apple has become.

  • +1

    Could buy a 2nd hand Lancer decent model…

    • +1

      You could, but still shouldn't

  • How dumb do you have to be to buy something like this?

    • +5

      Different people have different needs and preferences. Didn't you spend $600+ on a pizza oven? To each their own.

  • Im not going to make the dumb comments about this being bad value - there are definately niches where this makes sense and its certainly not for most people
    The main thing i'd point out is that the serviceability and parts replacement experience is insane - look up Linus tech tips and Snazzy Labs's experience on youtube. Apple dont make it easy to get parts or service inside or out of warranty.

    • What are the niches for this computer?

      • +1

        if you work in content production, need a 5k screen and especially those who have a Final Cut workflow.

  • My friend bought one of these when it came out through business and he got a 10% discount from Apple business (first time opening an account but have previous Apple products). They said if you make a business account with them and keep putting everything through business they will automatically gives high discounts.

    • You also get the same 10% discount when you purchase at the education price. They don’t even asked for any verification when you place an order online.

      I’m eagerly waiting for my iMac 2019 27” 8-core to be delivered! I’ve gotten 10 years out of every single Mac I’ve bought in the past, hoping I get at least 20 years out of this one 😂

      • Nope, edu discount is less than 10%

  • Far out! Didn't even know 5k is a thing already!

    • +1

      5k iMac came out in 2014

    • It's been a thing for a long time now.
      8k TV's are out. Waiting to see if the monitor game tries to compete.

      Would LOVE a 8k 13 inch laptop screen

      • Battery life would be impacted.

        • The entire bottom of the device should be battery. Nothing thin either, if it doesn't weigh 13kg then it's a sacrifice I don't want.

  • +2

    Clearly, Apple is testing the purchasing power of people.

    • This has been out quite a while and I believe it's sold well. As implied by the name it's for professionals. Primarily professionals in design.

  • Is this any good for watching Netflix?

    Might get 2.

    • +1

      Netflix only supports up to 4K. Therefore, NO. Netflix is not good enough.

  • How do you use 5K on 27". I can't even use 4K on 32".,…….

    • Scaling.
      Mac does it quite differently to Windows. Uses a shit load of graphics processing power to do it, but it does seem to have less compatibility issues then Windows.
      That said, it's much easier to do when you control the hardware as well and ditch legacy software support along the way…

      • Ah k. That's why my macbook gets so hot scaling 2 external monitors.

        Yes I agree it does it really well, but the way mac does it your 5K resolution actually become 1080p resolution, it scaled everything in the entire image vs windows which mostly just scaled the gui and a reduced scale on the window.

  • -6

    Cheaper at Good Guys with cashrewards

    $6,454.04

    • Why didn’t you tell him to update this post with cashrewards then? OP did state this deal is at Officeworks OR The Good Guys

      • Lol, isn't posted in here "telling them"? Am I supposed to call or whatsapp them instead?

        • You’re just quick to neg shit you can’t afford.

          LOL

  • Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro. I use neither and don’t have an iMac Pro. But for anyone asking “why use a Mac” - those are the only two big reasons to do so. They’re basically the only “pro grade” media software anyone cares about that is Mac-exclusive.

    If you need to use those, you need a Mac. Many creative professionals use Final Cut Pro.

    Most other software (eg, Adobe suite) is available on windows, and actually, Windows versions are usually updated first, are more feature-rich, and perform better. The display is high quality, and admittedly probably has an incomparable colour gamut? But even that’s not much of a pull. Many cashed-up creative professionals will be using a Wacom or something larger than 27 inch anyway.

    It’s all about Final Cut, usually. Macs are not a great choice for creative professionals, unless they need… Final Cut.

    • +3

      Yes, Adobe have screwed over Mac users for about 15 years. Considering that is where they got their start, it’s appalling. I wait for the day that pixelmator or affinity get as full a feature set, then it’s bye bye adobe.

  • +3

    People are complaining about the price, but Linus Tech Tips did a part for part PC, and found it came in more expensive and not quite as good. They then did a non Xeon class PC for half the price which had better performance, so there's that. But if you want a Xeon, this was (at the time of initial production), a bargain.

  • +3

    This isn’t for running your games or Chrome. It’s a professional piece of equipment with a well supported warranty for businesses that make money in creative industries and need the power and screen accuracy. Thinking image/video/sound editing.

    This is basically server grade hardware with a ridiculously good monitor. No business cares you can piece together a white box pc for a cheaper price. Where’s your warranty and support?

    • +2

      Well according to LTT, severely lacking on this computer too.

  • In the past, Apple had slightly slower hardware to PC of the same price, but made up for it with more reliable, efficient hardware/software. Add to that an aesthetically pleasing design and a charismatic sales man, it was a winner.

    Now, generations slower hardware at 2-3 times the price. Still aesthetically pleasing design but no new innovations. Macs have become a ridiculous purchase.

  • If you're making a serious movie you'll be buying a couple dozen of these.

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