Game of Thrones S08E03 - Poll *SPOILERS*

So those of us who have watched the latest episode of GoT, what did you think?

Personally, while watching the episode I was fully invested and loved every minute of it.

Afterwards, with some times reflecting on the series as a whole, I found the whole thing a little anti-climatic.
The whole series has being building up to this event, to have it end 'just like that'

Seems like winter came and went in one night….

Lots of people are saying the show is about who will sit on the throne….Well yes I agree with that, but at the same time the whole show has been setting up the White King wanting to destroy "men", which you'd think is bigger than the throne.

I personally would've liked episode 2 to have gone into a bit of a back story of the white king and his little entourage who did nothing. Instead of an episode of the main characters having a deep and meaningful, who we already know all about and have made our opinions on them already.

Poll Options

  • 121
    Best. Episode. EVER!
  • 400
    Anti-Climatic
  • 62
    Sucked
  • 88
    OK

Comments

    • Don't know why someone negged you on that, it's a pretty positive and realistic comment

  • +1

    It's called GAME OF THRONES, not "Survival of Men". I'm happy that its done and out of the way so we can focus back on the real issue of who will end up in the throne.

    • And one character they have built up for 6 seasons wanted to destroy that throne and all man….and got done in 1 episode

      • But it had to happen eventually! There are only 3 episodes left after all, and we are talking a TV series. There is not time for pages and pages and chapters and chapters of exposition…

        Be content!

        • I am. Which I’ve said numerous times, personally I just would’ve liked the white walkers story to have more content

    • +1

      It's actually called "A Song Of Ice And Fire". Only the first book was called "Game Of Thrones" so they went with that as the TV show name.

  • As enjoyable the whole series been i always felt the a lot of it was rushed and condensed. Weeks or months could pass from one scene to another.
    If only they had unlimited funds to throw at this show. Cant wait for the new books to come out but George RR seems to be taking his sweet time.

    • He'll probably finish the books and never release them

    • George RR seems to be taking his sweet time

      cocaine and hookers

      • You've seen the guy, right? The guy looks like if he even thought about either he would go into cardiac arrest.

        GRRM doing either is about as insane as sending in the Dothraki in the first charge with standard steel scythes without holy fire, and not as the skirmishers/flankers they have always been shown as, or telling viewers of the show that they should buy a new TV to appreciate a joke of a colour grade that would have failed standard QC checks in post production houses around the world, and everything in between ;)

        FYI the show is shot on Arri Alexa which can basically see in the dark. It was a creative decision to crush the shadow detail, bring down the mid tones and removing any highlight detail. It was a creative mistake, not a feature. It's like if you ran a song through an equaliser and removed half the audible frequencies. It's not artistic, it's a technical mistake.

        • -1

          or telling viewers of the show that they should buy a new TV to appreciate a joke of a colour grade that would have failed standard QC checks in post production houses around the world, and everything in between

          I don't get what all this fuss is about. I watched it on a TV (plasma screen) from 2012 and it looked great.

          • +1

            @idonotknowwhy: Plasma and OLED were your best options.
            Both have real blacks.
            Just because your Plasma TV is old doesn't make it inferior to LCD.
            (fellow Plasma owner)

          • @idonotknowwhy: I watched it on my old plasma and it was rubbish. I was ready to kick my TV screen in

            • @PleasureMe: I reckon you guys must have grabbed shitty sources. Compression algorithms are often unkind to dark scenes.
              The official streams eg. foxtel or whatever, could easily have this problem as well.

              Also, no need to neg me just because I had a great viewing experience lol

  • +2

    No intimate scene in last episode…Downvote

  • +1

    I watch this show for the foreground of political squabble, but deep down more interested in background arc which is the NK. This episode just completely made 50% of the story disappear by meaninglessly killing NK because and the writer was interviewed saying they chose Arya just for shits and giggles.

    Arya has pulled some some seriously unreal revenge kills and has demonstrated strength over people 3-5x her fighting ability. We all accepted that, but one-shot NK is a bit cheap.

  • I watched this on my $250 Aldi 4K TV after I found a 127mb file of the episode on a USB drive in my university toilets, I am simply appalled, I could not see anything.
    Terrible show, 0/10

    • you found a USB drive in the uni toilets? plug it back in that hidden spycam when you're done.

    • lol,,127mb???? i dl a 1080p of episode 3 which is almost 5gb. No wonder you can't see shit when you're watching.

      • +1

        Whoosh!

      • /waits for the negs votes for angelkulit025

      • And you believe him? lol

        • Well if I got his joke…I think the answer to your question is pretty obvious …

    • hope you washed your hands after that

  • Does Foxtel includes the "behind the episode" mini clip at the end of each episodes? or is that only available to those who download through torrents?

    • Didn’t see it on the Foxtel stream. Watched it (the last 3 minutes) on YouTube

      • its almost 10 mins for the last episode.

        • Only wanted to know their reasoning for the ending of the episode

  • Really liked it. It's a TV show. Would have cost a fortune. The library scene showing Arya sneak around brilliantly set up her surprise attack on the night king.

    My only gripe was showing Brienne, etc get overrun by walkers to only survive in the next shot.

    • I keep saying this too, like we're supposed to believe Jamie Brienne and Pod held off 100+ wight for 5 minutes until NK exploded? Not that I care, the story telling by the directors has to give the sense of impending doom before relief, just seemed slightly unrealistic. Just like how Jon fended off all of the undead that were resurrected around him and fought his way back into the castle lol

  • +2

    Feel sorry for the Dothraki, travel all the way with their Khaleesi to the west and trash in this suicidal way.

    • +2

      Feel sorry for the night king. losing to such morons that use such idiotic battle tactics is a cruel slight. Wasting some of their fiercest fighters on a suicide charge was just one of the many face palm moments. For people supposedly so well versed in battle they sure haven't learnt much.

      • I agree, terrible tactics, made no sense.

    • Most would have died from the cold, ala Napolean's march on Moscow.

  • the show has always been full on surprises… i felt the kind of build up will have a cliche ending where the hero will kill the villain and leave us disappointed… but the twist that they came up with was something nobody expected and it felt well worth the wait…

    not the best episode in my view as i like Battle of Bastards much better..

    fan theories have always spoil the excitement especially R+L=J.. but this was something i didn't expect so i felt the episode completely made justice to the series…

    no matter what happens everyone will have a difference of opinion… but for me the end couldnt have been better… lets see what else they do in the coming episodes…

  • +3

    The whole season so far has been an incredible disappointment.

  • +3

    Online nerds (myself included) - from mildly dissatisfied to disgusted.
    General public - loved it.

    One thing we can ALL agree on, it was way too dark and most providers streams just couldn't handle it. A compressed, smeary, artifacting mess.

    Might have to wait for the 4K HDR Blueray Box set for my rewatch!

    • It wasn’t even shot at 4K so it ain’t happening!

  • You could tell over the past couple of seasons since they went past the books that the writing had changed and it was more rushed and more convenient things took place. But this was the worst ever, First there is the undead giant who swats all the warriors around and then grabs and squeezes the little girl / lady but also decides to pull her up all the way right next to his eye just so she can stab him in the eye and kill him…Yeah that makes sense when he had just swatted everyone else around and used his advantage which is his reach and strength to keep them from doing any damage to him.

    Then Arya who cant sneak past just the normal undead in the library and they can hear her blood dripping and almost catch her if it wasnt for the help she had getting away… To then somehow miraculously "sneaking past" hundreds of undead including the Elite soldiers / generals who had surrounded the whole area plus to somehow leap or run across the wide open area covered in white snow and yet no-one saw or stopped her and then to be grabbed right next to his body and held there by the Night King instead of her being swatted / pushed away…conveniently so she was withing stabbing distance…ummm the dreaded Night king and his generals…? And of course no-one had even followed him as bodyguards… Come on guys. Terrible writing, no real deaths occured either…

    The whole point of GOT was Fire and Ice and the fact that in GRRM's world convenient things dont really occur. Basically if you do something risky, most likely you pay for it. Plus the fact that Arya had never had much experience or seen these creatures before so would not even know how they moved or fought… It really should have fallen down to multiple battles / characters battling together to try to reach the Night King and I think the wildlings or Jon / basically people who have fought these creatures and had the most experience against them to have been able to take them out.

    • +1

      The giant scene (which the show runners said they put in because of Lyanna's popularity) reminded me of the Viper vs the Mountain in reverse.

    • +1

      Yeah needed an epic battle , multiple (or all deaths) vs the knight king to die. Perhaps after 5 main characters get taken out and generals array could come flying in.

      Ok so Maggie shot mrs burns ? This is just as stupid as that’s.

  • i think 2 things could have made this episode better for me:

    1. Jon and the night king have an epic sword battle (Jon gets saved by the dragon before his ass gets completely kicked). I just wanted to see the night king in some hand to hand combat action, there is nothing like a really good bad guy

    2. We needed that shock factor of someone major dying (this is GoT), I would have suggested Arya and the Night King have a double KO. That would have been insanely crazy

  • The episode felt like a generic Marvel film, which is kind of the direction the show took since the main characters set off to capture a white walker last season. The heroes have magical plot armor and somehow manage to get behind the enemy lines to turn up in pivotal scenes.

    I hope we return to GRRM twists and character deaths in the next 3 episodes.

  • i liked the music

  • Yeah, rushed episode. Watched it in 8K, was good. More HDR 10 needed.

  • +2

    This is the episode that fans were fooled by the writers. No need to be fanboy and call this best episode ever. Instead of having sex prior to battle, they should have made more preparations. Whose idea was that to put the catapults in front of the infantry? And why couldn't we even see an arrow volley? Where were the archers?
    So many bullshit, with full of cliches and and utter disappointment.

  • +1

    The latest episode is just a summary of how dumbed down the show has become.

    It's like watching the transformer movies. You just have to turn your brain off to enjoy it, especially since the book material ran out.

  • +1

    I do feel the whole of season 8 feels rushed.

    Gives me a feeling they are trying to end it for the shake of ending it.

    By the way, charging to an enemy unknown in the dark of the night with your fastest troopers? You got to be kidding………

  • Whole series leading up to it would have been a let down to anything they did really.

  • -1

    night kings death was super fake

    Arya some how jumped like 50m over a army of undead without anyone noticing to kill the Night King

    you can tell this is a completely different writer to GRRM because all the big characters had plot Armour if this was GRRM Dani, Sansa, Jon and probably Arya would all of died horribly

    the battle was good but way to dark however edited the episode needs to be shot - the whole story of GOT is winter is coming and it was a pretty sad end to what was a long 10 year build up…

  • +4

    Jesus fkn Christ. The NK wasn't a " subplot ".

    The entire core theme and story of Game of Thrones / A Song of Ice and Fire has been / is about, how the petty squabbling of men fighting over the token throne means nothing in the grand scheme of things, when death itself is coming to destroy them all.

  • I was disappointed in how they framed most of the action. Why did the Dothraki just run off into the dark to die ahead of everyone? How did all the main cast keep fighting over and over when there was way too many shots of the place getting over run. I do not need to see Jaime or Brienne "struggling" to solo or duo a horde for the 10th time in the episode. It was ridiculous.

    That said the episode was tense, and at the end my mind was racing about how they would solve the dilemma they had created. In one of the worst - laziest - ways I soon found out.

  • I just don't understand why in the poll there are so many people against the weather :(

    • Been waiting for someone to comment on that Mr. G SS

      • I thought 2 days was long enough. You've got next one!

  • -2

    I don't get some who said it was anti-climatic. I mean you are fighting against an undead horde, with a king that can raise the dead (continually) with just a wave of his hand. If the fight lasted for 2+ episodes, that just would not make any sense. The ferocity and efficiency with which the undead attacked relentlessly was horrifying. You could see the struggle in Jaime and especially Brienne's faces.

    As for those who said the Dothraki 'just ran off', well you obviously have not been watching the series. They are savages, they don't really listen to 'orders', they saw their swords lit up, morale is high, bam, let's go. And their only use is to charge forwards. What's the other option? wait in Winterfell? lol. Some have argued they should've been used in a flanking maneuver; well did you guys see how many undead there were?

    The episode was done well.

    • -1

      just ran off

      They weren't useless just charging off - they killed a lot of the undead no doubt - whether far out from Winterfell or near the walls.

      However, by charging out they made the catapults only useful for a couple of shots to avoid friendly fire.

  • Whats Game of thrones? Apologies I’ve been living under a pile of eneloops and toilet paper for a good few years

  • I can’t go past this comparison.

    A brief thought on the Battle of Winterfell vs. Tolkien's major battles. One of the cliches of writing about Game of Thrones is the idea that its darkness and violence and shades-of-gray characters are a departure from "classic fantasy," meaning by implication JRR.

    It's true that GRRM's Wars of the Roses landscape is more morally ambiguous than a lot of Tolkien ripoffs, and that many of his villains are more interesting than Sauron. But Tolkien was very effective at dramatizing temptation and corruption among the well-meaning + the good.

    The fall of Boromir, the corruption of Saruman, the sedation of Theoden, the despair of Denethor and the temptation of Frodo — in each case what's interesting isn't the Big Bad himself, but the effect of evil on people trying to resist it.

    And where this cashes out really effectively is in the final battles, Pelennor Fields and Black Gate/Mount Doom, where you have a sweeping good-versus-evil conflict overlapping with a struggle within a family, a company, a human heart.

    At the moment Sauron's armies are breaching the gates of Minas Tirith, the steward of the city is trying to burn his own son and himself alive. At the moment the armies of Gondor are making their last stand, in the Sammath Naur Frodo decides to claim the ring for himself.

    That kind of drama, the drama of Denethor burning Faramir and Frodo and Gollum struggling for the ring, was what was missing from the Battle of Winterfell. For all GoT's vaunted ambiguity, at the crucial moment everyone was united and heroic, the bad guys absent or killed off.

    No doubt we'll get ambiguity again in the last three episodes. But its absence here was an epic (literally) fail. And a reminder that the old master, old JRR, knew a thing or two about complexity that the GoT showrunners, at least, do not. Ross Douthat NYTimes

    • at the crucial moment everyone was united and heroic

      Perhaps because the villian was so powerful - has the ability to create an exponentially vicious circle for your side.

  • +2

    The whole episode was at night and was too dark…i missed lots of details cos i couldn’t see what was going on

  • +2

    Night King - more like Bitch King. His whole storyline was knock down a wall then get stabbed by Arya (who somehow transports passed all the useless Night Legion). Useless and anticlimactic.

    Writing was poor and this season is heavily rushed. Disappointing. The writers obviously have a hard on for Arya.

  • +1

    It's okay.
    C'mon guys, without giving too many thoughts into the strategy, the battle was pretty epic, unless you were watching it on the 2006 Changhong LCD that you grabbed from your neighbor's lawn, then you were probably just sitting there staring at 50 shades of grey for an hour.
    But the plot is just dumb. All 8 seasons of build-up, the army of the dead turned into ashes in just one episode, sorry my bad, in 10 seconds, after Arya stabbed the Night King on the thigh with a dagger made of Lego. Go to any online description of the show, it would be something like: all the major houses are competing for power and the throne, while a long-forgotten race of unknown enemy is approaching…
    The common enemy of all living humans IS the core theme, not the game of thrones, it is hinted since season one that there's going to be a great war, a war that would unite all the livings, a war of survival, then it ended in 10 seconds, what's even worse is the fact that the army of the dead was defeated without all the livings being united. All it took was whatever remains of the Night's Watch and the wildlings, a bit more than half of North, a bit less than half of Vale, most of the underclothed Unsullied whom should all be frozen to death by the last episode, even less adequately dressed Dothraki and their poor horses, whatever's left of the Stormland troops that survived the Battle of the Blackwater and the Battle of Bastards, that 5 ironborn who excels at archery but for some reason was assigned to engage in melee combat, and 2 dragons who were playing Quidditch with their brother for the entirety of the episode.
    Maybe Cercei should've had her troops camped behind Winterfell, if the livings won, kill them; if the dead won, slow them down so she has a chance to escape.
    The White Walkers can resurrect dead people, and where is full of dead people? The Crypt. Why has nobody thought of that?
    Because the dead Starks should be in Ashes, why the heck are there still so many skeletons with their bones intact? Was everyone from the North buried there too?
    If North Korea is to surprise attack the US someday, they would have gone farther than the army of the dead. They probably got more troops than the last 8 times the wildlings "invaded" the Seven Kingdoms combined, plus 7 well-seasoned White Walker generals, an ice dragon that spits whatever is the compound of ice and fire (seriously what is the shit it spits? ice plasma?), a godly javelin thrower, and they didn't get a mile further, stopped right at the northernmost capital. The winter has come my ass, Winterfell was always in winter, it's been in winter since season 1, and they couldn't even take it. This has been the worst invasion in the history of invasions, maybe ever.
    I would like to think of the threat posed by the Night King and his army of the dead, as a reflection of the real-world problems, like a global wide water shortage, the climate change, the exhaustion of unrenewable natural resources, the nuclear power once it can no longer be contained… Something that everyone denies its existence until it is already there by your doorsteps, only then do people realise that the threat was very real and was there all along.
    And by portraying it as something that can be ended by only a small portion of people working together, with a single stroke, the showrunners depicts the naivete of the humans, and how we'd rather die for superficial and meaningless in-fightings than unite together to fight a common enemy.
    The Red Woman killed herself because she was wrong for one last time. The great war isn't in the North, it isn't about the living vs. the dead, it's about the iron chair, something that only a few has claims to not because of themselves but because of their ancestors, but many have to die for it. She died because even she gives up in humanity.
    To be honest though, it was pretty sad when Brienne, Sam, Jaime, and Podrick died… for the first time.
    The four times after that? Not so much.
    The new song by Ramin Djwadi, the piece that was played when the Night King approaches Bran. Man, I really don't want to say much, because he is one of two favorite film composers of mine. The other being Hans Zimmer.
    But what in the god's name was that?
    Most of the people online who say how they love this new song, who would like to thank him for such a beautiful piece that he made. They are blind worshippers who would claim they liked Mr. Djwadi's work no matter what. They are the type of people that you would find in a cult, if Ramin Djwadi demanded the sacrifice of a 10 years old girl to be burnt at a stake for him to make new music, they would have no problem finding a girl to sacrifice. Even if the new song Ramin Djwadi recorded consists of nothing but him farting for 5 straight minutes, they'll be brought to tears by it because of how beautifully melodic his farts are.
    Thinking it is remotely as good as his other works is an insult to Mr. Djwadi himself and all of his previous works, which were flawless.
    I'm not saying it's unacceptably bad. It's fine… For an anime.
    Don't believe me? Go back to the scene, listen to the music, come back, look me in the eyes and tell me it doesn't sound like some anime's theme or some Japanese game's BGM.
    And what does the new weapon Gendry made for Arya do? If it is a reference of the weapon that the legendary fighter Symeon Stareyes used, it deserves to be given more screen time. If it's not, it still needs more screentime because you hinted it the last episode. At least use it to kill a White Walker. Because what's the point of using them to kill the vulnerable Wights? Their bodies are barely intact, you headbutt them, they're dead.
    And what the hell were the White Walkers doing when their daddy was getting ambushed? Sure Arya walks like a cat, but is she invisible too?
    I liked the second episode more. Way more.
    Still, It's not even comparable to any of the episode from the first 6 seasons.
    But Episode 3 isn't as bad as Episode 1 thanks to its “choreography". So I'll give it a pass.

    • unless you were watching it on the 2006 Changhong LCD that you grabbed from your neighbor's lawn

      lmao!

      … but that's as far as I read, because that's a bigger wall than the one in the series, and I might as well just read the novels!

  • Maybe the wall was built to protect Night king from people. Why you never listen?! NK, a couple of days you set foot inside the war, you got ass kick by a young girl who just had sex.

  • +2

    What a joke this episode, and this final season is.

    Can hear Arya's blood in the library but can't hear her come to the Night King?

    That Arya move? A cheap knock off of Rey's The Last Jedi move!

    If you want to know the real heir to the throne, and what happens to the dwarf, reply here.

  • +1

    one of the worst 5 episodes of all series according to imdb.

  • +1

    8 seasons of NK hype only to get sucker punched, lame

    • +1

      episode 4 of season 8 you mean? Perhaps you meant to say it was incredibly bad. It is fast being voted the worst episode in the series.

      • +2

        Yes. I agree. Episode 4 was probably worse than episode 3

  • The only good thing to come out of this season are the copious amount of memes over at /r/freefolk

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